Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
US Release: Dec 07, 2018
Japan Release: Dec 07, 2018
Europe Release: Dec 07, 2018

Popularity: 971st All Time, 2nd This Week

Franchise: Nintendo
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Angelfire
said at 3:40 PM on Fri Jul 6 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
The hype train has returned! Choo-choo!
RadioXD
said at 8:13 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
 1 Shout Out!
https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/about/index.html

So some new info has popped up(not the kind you probably want) (Read the text at the bottom too picture(?) too)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:15 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@RadioXD

what am i looking for here
RadioXD
said at 8:18 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@NCZ Does it show the 66 fighters thing with Pokémon Trainer counts as one; number includes Echo Fighters on the bottom? If it doesn't than just go the ultimate website and go to the about page
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:28 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@RadioXD

If what you're getting at is thinking if "66 fighters is the complete roster", then that's been on the site since E3 and they haven't explicitly stated that's the complete roster. I don't think there'll be a massive amount but I'm pretty sure there'll be at least a couple new fighter announcements pre-release. Nintendo/Sakurai's not crazy, they know character announcements are the biggest part of the Smash buildup cycle and the messaging is ambiguous enough to give wiggle room for that.

Even if it is the complete roster at launch, it's so massive and still has so much more than SSB4 that I think I'd still be grateful for that. Plus there's still DLC too. They would be even MORE insane to not do DLC, especially since it means they can go all-in on newcomers.
RadioXD
said at 8:29 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@NCZ Oh I don't think it's the complete roster.I just wanted to point out what the website is saying that Pokémon Trainer counts as one and that includes Echo Fighters too but I got that message out wrong...
RadioXD
said at 8:33 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@RadioXD or I'm not typing this out right...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:39 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@RadioXD

Oh i see. It's just saying that Echo Fighters share their number with the character they're cloned from instead of getting their own (e.g. Daisy is 13epsilon instead of 14) and that Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard make up characters 33-35. Its just clarifying where the 66 number comes from.
RadioXD
said at 8:44 PM on Tue Jun 26 2018
@NCZ Yes
Chrono
said at 10:56 AM on Thu Jun 21 2018
 5 Shout Outs!
Nothing shocking here, but confirmation by Antony he’s back as Pit/Dark Pit per his Instagram profile: https://www.instagram.com/antonydelrio/
Matrix92
said at 11:07 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
Like many others, I'm hyped up about the game and even more curious about the voice cast being featured. Some of the actors still need an official source claim such as Yuri Lowenthal as Marth which is a nice surprise to hear imo. While others like the Mario cast doesn't really need it since most likely the current voice cast is reprising their roles. Rosalina voice actress is still inconsistent due to the random recycling of using Kerri Kane's voice from her MK7 session.

Another nice surprise that not only Ganondorf is back to his Ocarina of Time design, but his voice actor from that game also returned providing new clips. After all, I'm used to hearing him as DK. As for other Zelda characters, Link is using his BOTW voice actor for Ultimate which the only source is from E3 gameplay.

David Hayter reprising Snake is the biggest surprise of them all concerning the voice cast. I know his fans were disappointed that he was replaced in MG5. Good to hear again recycled or new recordings.

As for the Fire Emblem cast besides Yuri, I heard Ike's actor not coming back and Roy is using his English voice actor too. I'll wait for an official source on that. As for Lucina, I'm confident that Laura Bailey is reprising the role.

As for the Pokémon cast. Lisa Ortiz is directing the cast in the similar case Tom Wayland has done along with the fact of using archive audio from the 4Kids era like Snorlax's voice.

Highly anticipated game all the way. Definitely can wait for it and it is worth the wait!
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 2:35 PM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Matrix92

I'm pretty sure Zelda is Ayumi Fujimura due to her design based on A Link Between World.
Matrix92
said at 9:22 AM on Wed Jun 20 2018
@MHUltimate2013DW I'm pretty sure as well but it's more logically better to have a source on it even though we're right to begin with.
Swiftie Muggle
said at 9:18 AM on Fri Jun 22 2018
@Matrix92 @Matrix92 i wish they realise that Kerri isnt the current one anymore and they get Laura to portray Rosalina properly in Smash, but i think this wont happen because Kerri's Smash 4 clips work so well and Mario characters are likely to keep the Smash 4 clips , as Mario in the demo keeps his.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:09 PM on Sun Jun 24 2018
@Matrix92 In regards to the Fire Emblem cast for this game, with Greg Chun reprising Ike from Heroes, I imagine that Cup of Tea might be handling the Fire Emblem characters for recording (if they record new lines and not reuse clips for Lucina, both Robins, and both Corrins). If they record new lines, I imagine that Marcella, Cam, David, Lauren, and Roy will reprise their roles since they reprise them for Heroes.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:10 PM on Sun Jun 24 2018
@Matrix92 Forgot to mention. If they record new lines for the FE cast, it's probably more likely for Alexis Tipton to reprise Lucina in this game since she's Lucina's current voice actress.
Jessica Marra
said at 5:31 AM on Mon Jun 25 2018
@KazeNinja17 You think since Greg Chun is voicing Ike now and Marth has an English voice now by Yuri Lowenthal, does that mean there's a high chance that Ray Chase would voice Roy since he voiced him in Heroes???
KazeNinja17
said at 1:17 PM on Mon Jun 25 2018
@Jessica Marra I do. (I also just noticed that I typed "Roy" instead of "Ray" for my one comment.) I feel that since Ray Chase has been consistently voicing Roy in Heroes since its launch, he'll be back for Smash. That is if they give him an English voice in Smash, which it would be extremely weird if they don't since he'd be the only Fire Emblem character left in Japanese.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:50 PM on Mon Jun 25 2018
@KazeNinja17 I know, right? That'd be VERY awkward.

I can understand why they kept Cloud in Japanese cause even though he does have an English VA, Steve Burton, there's some rule with a voice acting union that they couldn't get him.

I recall someone said on Twitter Steve Burton would have loved to come back and reprise Cloud in Smash, I don't remember if that happened or not.

At least Steve Burton came back as Cloud in the new Dissidia game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:06 PM on Mon Jun 25 2018
@KazeNinja17

Roy IS the only one whose game has never been released outside Japan...
KazeNinja17
said at 9:10 PM on Mon Jun 25 2018
@NCZ Well, yes. That is true, but now that he has an official English voice actor, I could see them having Ray Chase come back since at the time of Smash 4's release, Marth didn't have an English VA.
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 9:34 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
 1 Shout Out!
Some samples of the Male Pokemon Trainer's voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVxwuVcjCGI
Marusero
said at 8:07 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
 1 Shout Out!
Would anyone like for a demo of this game to be released? IMO, that would be great.
RadioXD
said at 8:27 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Marusero I would love a demo release but usually a trailer is released when they're still making something but I'm guessing a demo will be released around Sep to late Nov
Super10ZX
said at 7:38 AM on Wed Jun 20 2018
@Marusero They made a demo for Smash 3DS before that came out. I know I would like a demo!
Marusero
said at 8:05 AM on Wed Jun 20 2018
@Super10ZX I'm glad we're on the same page, my friend.
RetroPokeFan
said at 11:49 PM on Mon Jun 18 2018
Ali Hollis has just confirmed that she will again not return as Palutena and unless it’s a mistake or something that the dub is non-union:
https://twitter.com/missalihillis/status/1008959673465167874?s=21
RetroPokeFan
said at 11:52 PM on Mon Jun 18 2018
*Hillis*

Christ I hate Autocorrect sometimes.
Abdullab
said at 12:05 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@RetroPokeFan Smash has always been a non union franchise now before u ask about Hayter He either went fi-core or made an exception to reprise snake in the game for the fans
Soul-dragon
said at 8:16 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@RetroPokeFan Not surprised in the slightest to see this. Marvel Vs Capcom is the only fighting game that ever gets unionized. As for Hayter, I'd imagine that the reason he reprised is (as Abdullab listed) for the fans.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:25 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Abdullab Brawl was union. It had to be to get the full Metal Gear cast. Whether or not this one will be I can not say for sure, but if they bring back more Metal Gear characters it'll have to be again.
Soul-dragon
said at 11:01 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Nightmare Crusher I already have a feeling that this won't be. Ever union VA in this is reprising an old role, and the fact that Ali isn't returning for Paulenta confirms it isn't.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:08 AM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Soul-dragon Maybe not, but I wouldn't call it for certain until we see whether or not there's any kind of extensive Metal Gear material in this. NCZ would know this better than me, but apparently Brawl being union was a late decision. Wouldn't surprise me if something similar occured here.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:42 PM on Tue Jun 19 2018
@Soul-dragon

You pretty much completely dismissed his comment and your comment basically contradicts itself. "This game has union VAs in it, but one who isn't so that confirms it isn't". This is frustrating and only contributes to the misinformation and rumourmongering that surrounds union-related topics. Please take a break for a little while.
Jessica Marra
said at 8:39 AM on Thu Jun 21 2018
@RetroPokeFan If Ali Hillis isn't Palutena, I guess it'll be still be Brandy Kopp voicing her.

I thought she did a great job voicing her in Smash 4 and I'm praying they bring back Palutena's Guidance cause the interactions between Palutena, Pit, Viridi and others were clever and entertaining!
Swiftie Muggle
said at 9:12 AM on Fri Jun 22 2018
@RetroPokeFan Oooh So Alli was actually offered the role back?

That's how it sounds in the way she worded her tweet.

This is important because it means Palutena is likely to have new lines, not just fighter ones but it also could mean Palutena's Guidance would make a return.

If she wasnt approached they would just use Brandi again and they could ditch the Guidance altogether ... but it sounds like its returning.
Jessica Marra
said at 4:35 PM on Sun Jun 17 2018
 1 Shout Out!
Forgot to mention, hearing Fox being played during the Nintendo treehouse, it did sound like Mike West is back as Fox but his voice is now like his portrayal in Star Fox Zero.

I know a lot of people will be pleased by this.

Nothing about Falco and Wolf's voice actors yet though.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:01 AM on Sun Jun 17 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
After hearing some of the Nintendo treehouse, Marcella Lentz-Pope is still female Corrin and of course Hellena Taylor is still Bayonetta.

Yes, Greg Chun is Ike and Yuri Lowenthal is Marth now.

Takahiro Sakurai is still Cloud. Shame they couldn't get Steve Burton to reprise Cloud here.

I'm guessing they're just gonna recycle the majority of character's voice clips from the precious game. Oh, well.

I AM looking forward to the new Palutena's guidance... I hope they bring that back! Those were entertaining as hell!
voiceactorfan1234
said at 5:18 AM on Mon Jun 18 2018
@Jessica Marra Same! I also hope that Snake Codecs come back; that’d be really cool!
Soul-dragon
said at 2:02 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
Here is every assist trophy discovered thus far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XonAjPlq-8

I hope they get Wendee Lee back for Lyn and Dave Fennoy for Robin. I'm also curious to see if Travis Willingham will return for Knuckles.
Amberdoll
said at 7:24 PM on Fri Jun 15 2018
https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/
Amberdoll
said at 7:36 PM on Fri Jun 15 2018
@Amberdoll (Yes this is the super smash bros ultimate website)
Soul-dragon
said at 6:50 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
I really hope that they get Sean Schemmel to reprise Lucario and Bryce Papenbrook to reprise Red.
Cartoonguy133
said at 9:31 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Soul-dragon I wonder who's gonna voice Leaf.
Mudkip97
said at 9:55 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Cartoonguy133
I think it's the same voice actress as Red from Brawl. The voice actress voiced May in Pokemon and I heard gameplay and her voice sounded almost like May.

So in short Michele Knotz probably voices both male and female versions of Pokemon Trainer
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:51 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
 13 Shout Outs!
Man oh man. Now that I've had a couple days to process everything...

December is only one month away from the 20th anniversary of the original Super Smash Bros. It's crazy to think just how long it's been -- SSB is older now than the original Donkey Kong Arcade was in 1999!! But there can't be a better way to celebrate the occasion than with the ultimate dream match bringing EVERYONE together. SSB4 came close, but Ultimate... Man oh man. I knew and I'm so glad that Wolf and FREAKING SNAKE are back, but I never thought I would be happy to see Pichu again, and I was NOT expecting both Young AND Toon Link side-by-side.

I LOVE that the Zelda characters are now each themed on different games. While it made sense to make it all cohesive, I think as time went on they've realized it's harder to do that. Skyward Sword's Zelda design isn't suited to fighting, and Ganondorf isn't in the game at all, and BOTW has that too to a lesser extent. Now we have Link representing the modern and future era of the series, Ocarina of Time Ganondorf is BY FAR his definitive incarnation, and Zelda is now, well, a link to the series's past, which I think is a FANTASTIC tribute to the series's legacy. I'm also super happy with the Zero looks for Star Fox and adding Leaf as a Pokemon Trainer alt!

I think there will be a couple more newcomers, but I mean, they've gone above and beyond with bringing back EVERYONE. And holy crap, they FINALLY DID IT. After years, years of hemming, hawwing, ups and downs, just as everyone finally gets comfortable with the idea it'd never happen, Sakurai finds yet another way to pull off the apparently impossible. They ACTUALLY added Ridley! After all that, I think it's pretty fair not to want 20+ or something wild. Of course they'd be insane not to do DLC, but I think there might still be a couple surprises in store for the main game. I hope we're able to get some more series that haven't been in Smash yet. They've done a spectacular job welcoming Splatoon to the party (Moray Towers!! So many costumes!! CALLIE AND MARIE!!!), and I hope a couple others can get the red carpet treatment as well. I can't believe they actually added Ridley though.

They did an awesome job remastering older stages too. Melee Peach's Castle, Saffron City, Great Bay, Spear Pillar, Frigate Orpheon, Fourside, they're all FINALLY back, and they look gorgeous. Even the 3DS stages look like they've been completely redone from the ground up. I genuinely didn't even realize that Kongo Jungle wasn't a new stage until they pointed out. I think we'll definitely see a couple more new ones too. On the site there's actually a New Donk City stage that wasn't advertised or in the demo! I'd love to see new stages from Sun & Moon and Tropical Freeze...

It's too bad the voices won't be as completely refreshed as they could for some characters, and Marth speaking English will never not be weird, but friggin' David Hayter back in the saddle makes it all worth it. So good, man. So good.

Good job, Sakurai and Bamco. Good job indeed.
KhFan-D98
said at 1:10 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@NCZ Extremely well said. :)
RetroPokeFan
said at 2:17 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@NCZ Sakurai deserves the greatest rest he could ever had after this. So much hard work, effort and soul is being put into the game.
Soul-dragon
said at 2:30 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@RetroPokeFan Especially since he added Ridley.
Chrono
said at 11:33 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
Huh, I’m surprised Pit uses recycled voice clips from SSB4/Uprising judging by the Treehouse footage. Pit was one of the characters I was so confident in getting new voice clips due to Antony Del Rio’s little tease last summer: https://www.instagram.com/p/BX8aLw6lmP_/?hl=en

My guess is that maybe he only recorded for new Palutena’s Guidance dialogue, but that would be a strange decision by Nintendo. But then again, Nintendo is a strange company haha.
Webmike1
said at 10:29 AM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@Chrono There’s still going to be new voice clips for Pit outside of the potential Guidance dialogue. In one segment of the Treehouse they mentioned that Pit has a new Star KO line that is reference to one chapter in Uprising where he reveals he doesn’t know how to read.
Chrono
said at 10:47 PM on Sun Jun 17 2018
@Webmike1

I mean, that’s exactly what I find strange. Why only partial new recordings? As far as I’m aware, there never has been an instance where Nintendo hired a VA to do only a couple new voice clips for a Smash Bros character. They either record all new or only reuse old clips. But I suppose there’s a first for everything heh.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:24 AM on Mon Jun 18 2018
@Webmike1

I think they just reused the clip from Uprising.
voiceactorfan1234
said at 10:38 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
They just confirmed another VA on Treehouse Live (one of the assist trophies) but I couldn’t hear what they were saying. It’s on Nintendo’s E3 Day 3 Treehouse video when they bring out the Assist Trophy Dr. Wright front SimCity.
voiceactorfan1234
said at 10:38 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
*from
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:01 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@voiceactorfan1234

They were talking about how Nate Bihldorff voices Dr. Wright and Shy Guy.

It was so funny. JC was all "Really!? He works across the office from me, what am I doing!"
TCJ
said at 8:07 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I wonder if they're adding any characters from Arms.
voiceactorfan1234
said at 6:53 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
I’m glad the Miis have voices now too. I think it’d be cool if you could record your own voice for them! Anyway I wonder who’ll be voicing the Mii Fighters? 🤔
Swiftie Muggle
said at 5:36 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I wonder how this title will handle voice direction this time around.

From what we know certain characters are totally getting new voice overs like Ike , Marth and i fully expect the Zelda mains (Zelda and Link) to have new lines too since they don't have the Twilight Princess appearence anymore.

I however don't expect any new lines for the Mario characters, as much as i would love to hear how Laura Faye Smith (Rosalina's current voice) would handle Rosalina in such a big title like this one i think they will just reuse the Smash 4 voice overs for them, not that it matters to much since Kerri Kane is my favorite either way.
SolVA
said at 5:34 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I'd imagine they'll mostly be reusing voice clips from previous games. Considering they've been using Jigglypuff's lines since the first Smash Bros, I can't see what they wouldn't here.
I would like to see Michele Knotz back as Red, Brandy Kopp as Palutena and of course Laura Bailey as Lucina. If there isn't any new lines to record it wouldn't seem worth the hassle to get the VA's to record new lines if they can just reuse old clips.
Then again, for characters with new current VA's, they might want to update the clips, seeing as they did with Ike. I can imagine Lucina, Rosalina, and maybe the Koopalings having their VA's replaced.

I would also like to see Patricia Summersett take another go at Zelda, seeing as her BOTW voice was a little...dull. A fighting game is great to see an actor/actress give it their all with all the shouting they have to do. (but I doubt that will ever happen)
RetroPokeFan
said at 11:05 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@SolVA In terms of Pokemon related stuff I think we might see new recordings (just not Jigglypuff unless they get Michele Knotz to do new lines as she is the current voice for it now but I doubt it) in terms of the Pokemon that keep their Japanese voice - Pikachu obviously and Pichu might.

Any new Pokemon such as Bewear will all be new recordings as well.

I'm interested to see what they'll do with Red, if they'll do new stuff or reuse older stuff from Brawl.

I think I heard on Twitter Fox is getting new recordings which I'm happy to hear since I thought Fox was the worst sounding out of all the characters in the Wii U-3DS games so I'm hoping he fares better on his Switch round.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:41 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@RetroPokeFan Same. I heard somewhere that even Mike West hated his own performance.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:28 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 1 Shout Out!
The biggest question is going to be whether they reuse Lucina's Smash 4 lines, bring her back in for new lines, or bring Alexis Tipton in to reprise Lucina from Heroes and Warriors.

I also wonder if Palutena will be voiced by Ali Hillis like in Uprising or retain her Smash 4 voice.
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 10:22 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@KazeNinja17

Another big question is will Roy be confirmed to be voiced in English just like Marth? The only way to know is to see gameplay video of Roy.
KazeNinja17
said at 11:13 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@MHUltimate2013DW I would think that they'd want to bring Ray Chase in to voice Roy for this title. The only reason that they didn't use English voices for Marth and Roy in Smash 4 was because neither had an English voice when the game came out. Marth's first English voice was in Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and Roy didn't get his English voice until Heroes.
KazeNinja17
said at 11:14 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@MHUltimate2013DW Also, I wonder if they'll have Wendee Lee voice Lyn now that Lyn is voiced by her in Heroes and Warriors and not Lani Minella anymore.
Andrew Tirol
said at 6:11 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@KazeNinja17

Another big question is will Cloud be confirmed to be voiced in English just like Marth and Roy? Hopefully we'll see a gameplay video of Cloud...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:09 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Andrew Tirol

Someone actually played as Cloud in the Invitational, and it's still Sakurai voicing him (hard to hear over the commentary, but you can DEFINITELY hear his death scream when he gets KO'ed).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFvucxGGy0A

He's fighting Marth in the same battle and you can clearly hear Yuri as him, so it looks like Cloud will remain undubbed.
Marusero
said at 4:46 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
Did anyone notice that Knuckles is now an Assist Trophy and that Shadow hasn't shown up yet? Because of that, I'm kind of curious as to whether or not the latter will be playable. Then again, it's just my opinion.
batcool
said at 8:29 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
Now that one impressive roster of characters can't wait
KhFan-D98
said at 7:55 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 4 Shout Outs!
I'm super hyped!!!!



(Please give me Simon Belmont. Even if he's just DLC.)
Junniebgoode
said at 7:19 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
I can't help being a bit sad that Marth will have his English voice. Nothing against Yuri, just prefer Hikaru Midorikawa's voice since that stuck to me since Melee. Not to mention, Roy will probably have an English voice too. Besides that, super excited for this game and so glad to see OoT Ganan back!
voiceactorfan1234
said at 6:19 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Junniebgoode Considering the Switch isn’t region-locked, I feel like you can probably change your Switch’s language and have the voices change as well. We’ll see though!
Junniebgoode
said at 4:17 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@voiceactorfan1234 That'd definitely be cool!
HienFan
said at 5:20 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
Jigglypuff is back...

That's enough for me to catch my attention and consider getting it in the future,
Marusero
said at 5:07 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
 8 Shout Outs!
Am I the only one who's still expecting a few new characters?
RetroPokeFan
said at 5:38 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Marusero I suppose we'll see some more in the future as DLC.

Wouldn't mind paying real money to continue supporting the series.
Soul-dragon
said at 12:36 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@RetroPokeFan Same. Dang it Nintendo just when I began thinking I could spend money on other things you always find a way to steal it!
Cartoonguy133
said at 10:05 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
I just realized. Since this game is using Ocarina of Time Ganondorf, does that mean Takashi Nagasako will voice him again? And that Zelda may be voiced by Ayumi Fujimura since she voiced Zelda in A Link Between Worlds?
Junniebgoode
said at 7:14 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Cartoonguy133 I really hope they get Takashi for Ganandorf. I always loved his Ganan voice, especially in Melee.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:15 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Cartoonguy133

There was some clean footage of Ganondorf fighting Little Mac during Treehouse, and while I can't tell for sure if it's Nagasako, it's definitely new clips and not Miyata!

I figure Link will be Kengo Takanashi, Zelda Fujimura, and Young Link will still be Takimoto so they all match their original appearances? Mizusawa as Sheik and Matsumoto as Toon Link will obviously stay.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:12 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 5 Shout Outs!
Today was a good day.
Marusero
said at 7:04 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 6 Shout Outs!
After seeing Sonic's gameplay so far, he's still voiced by Roger (albeit via recycled clips from SSB4, which were recycled from Generations; if he was given the chance to record some new, though, I think he would've done a very decent job). Of course, we may have to wait until the game's out to take a look at the credits, but I still kind of wanted to point that out.
TommotheCabbit
said at 5:23 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 9 Shout Outs!
Confirmed! He's returning as the announcer in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate! https://twitter.com/XanderMobusVO/status/1006652458104307714
Soul-dragon
said at 6:13 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TommotheCabbit Well I definitely saw that coming. Good to see that life didn’t change and I look forward to him stealing my heart again!
sonic401
said at 11:56 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Soul-dragon more like you "never saw it coming" get it? lame pun...
Damalis
said at 10:01 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@sonic401 Haha Persona 5 reference. Good one !
Webmike1
said at 5:19 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 6 Shout Outs!
Xander Mobus is the first announcer (in English/Japanese version) to return in a official new Smash game
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:01 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Webmike1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4MDNBaF7w
clankfandom100
said at 3:34 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 1 Shout Out!
I 100% bet Yuri will return to play as Marth
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@clankfandom100

He totally is but I won't add any credits that aren't officially confirmed.
clankfandom100
said at 3:41 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ



I'm glad Marth is able to speak English anyway
Soul-dragon
said at 3:54 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@clankfandom100 Hopefully Roy and Cloud can to.
clankfandom100
said at 2:00 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Soul-dragon

I hope so too!

If Marth can speak English, so can Roy and Cloud
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:22 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 1 Shout Out!
I was watching the Japanese presentation to see if anything was different, and we did get ONE VA confirmation.

https://i.gyazo.com/6f27dd5d73e57376fb82f4817c4bd6c7.png

Hikaru Midorikawa has recorded new lines for Marth!

(Ike's clips are new too but he didn't get an announcement, lol. Makiko Ohmoto has also been teasing her involvement constantly since March.)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:27 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
Oh, while *Japanese* Ike isn't confirmed...

https://twitter.com/greg_chun/status/1006645155737157632
Chrono
said at 3:46 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ
Im so, so glad we’re getting new voice clips for the old vets. It’s one of the primary things I wanted for this game. Looking forward to Greg Chun as Ike, loved him in Heroes.
Soul-dragon
said at 3:53 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Chrono Same. My one gripe is that Ike sounds a bit to much like Ephiram at times...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:00 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Chrono

Only some of them though! From the invitational it seems like a lot of characters will still be using old clips.

I guess Sakurai just felt bad for Marth being the only FE character not to get new ones in SSB4/Ultimate...?
Chrono
said at 4:15 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ
Ah, that dampens my hype a teeny bit (not really lol). But Marth was one of the characters that desperately needed new ones, so I’m glad he got them.
Webmike1
said at 5:09 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ In a Fire Emblem book for the series’ 25th Anniversary, Sakurai was noted by the conductor of interview that Midorikawa wished he record his voice lines and said he would keep that in mind if there was next Smash game.
BlueHeracross
said at 7:54 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ Sounds like Cup of Tea is also behind the voices this time around. Nintendo has really taken a shine to them it seems.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@BlueHeracross

At least for Ike anyway. But that's how it was in SSB4 too. They used Cup of Tea for FE characters (and Magnus/Phosphora).

I'm kinda glad they have a good thing going but I do kinda wish we could shake things up a little here and there. Though that's something that goes beyond just Nintendo too. Ah well.
BlueHeracross
said at 2:52 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ Well they have recently used Formosa, Bang Zoom, and Side, but more variety is always welcome.
PeachesDaisy
said at 3:13 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
Nice to see everyone back. And to see Marth speaking English, guessing Roy will be too, unlike Zelda.
But I'm even happier to see Daisy - and to hear Deanna Mustard's cheerful Daisy voice in Smash!


I wonder if they'll recycle voice clips for characters like Rosalina, Palutena and Lucina's voice clips or have their current (Laura Faye Smith) , original (Ali Hillis) and fill-in/new (Alexis Tipton) to record the lines. It seems a rather tedious thing to do, unless they end up having new lines.
I hope they keep Brandy Kopp as Palutena though, I loved her voice. I'd like to see Laura Faye Smith take on the role as Rosalina this time to spice things up, although I do prefer Kerri Kane.
As for Lucina...Alexis only sounds good when she's grunting (oh that's harsh I'm sorry!)

Regardless, this game has a fun roster to it. Most likely clips will be recycled to save time and money, but hey - apparently voice acting doesn't matter in fighting games.
Girlygeek43
said at 6:30 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@PeachesDaisy We don't really know but there might be some hope since Smash Bros is most likely unionized.
PeachesDaisy
said at 1:11 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Girlygeek43 I don't get the whole union/non-union thing, so no idea what you're saying there.
Junniebgoode
said at 7:05 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@PeachesDaisy As much as I would love Laura Bailey reprising her role as Lucina, I wouldn't be surprised if Alexis Tipton voices her in this. Tipton voiced her in FE Warriors and as Bunny Lucina in Heroes, so she seems to be the new VA for her. Tipton does a great job as well as Yu Kobayashi (of course cause she's the original JP) but to me Laura will always be the best Lucina.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:39 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Junniebgoode

They can just reuse Laura's SSB4 clips.
Soul-dragon
said at 9:41 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@PeachesDaisy If Alexis does voice her then I demand that Lucina has a new attack where brings out a bunch of gadgets and spends her entire time in the arena advertising them to the audience while tricking her opponent to show them off.
Junniebgoode
said at 10:24 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ I'd rather have them do that, though I feel like they always want to get fresh new recordings. We'll just have to wait and see.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:41 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Junniebgoode "I feel like they always want to get fresh new recordings."

Why would you think that? For veterans 4 reused far more clips than it rerecorded.
Dee15gon
said at 2:06 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ They didn't reuse Jason Griffith's voice for Sonic. So anything can hqppen.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:23 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Dee15gon

If anything Sonic is the exact opposite. First of all the entire voice cast for the series changed on an official/permanent basis so obviously this would need to be updated. That is a very different situation then a fill-in caused mostly by scheduling conflicts. The fact that she still voiced her in base Heroes and even gained the role of Palla really should be proof enough that there was no intention to replace her because they don't want her in the role anymore.

On top of that Roger didn't actually record anything new for SSB4. They reused various clips from games like Colours and London Olympics.

That actually supports that if Lucina doesn't *NEED* to have new dialogue recorded then it would actually be less efficient to record entirely new clips than to just reuse her work from SSB4. There's precedent for that in Fates where they reused her lines from Awakening. If anything assuming they would replace her is the bigger ask.
Dee15gon
said at 3:34 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ Oh yeah. I forgot about that.
Junniebgoode
said at 4:16 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@Nightmare Crusher Good point.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:16 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 5 Shout Outs!
I love this so freaking much.

...now hopefully I can actually get a Switch one of these days.
Soul-dragon
said at 3:52 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@HylianBelmont You still don’t have one? LOL I brought one the day they announced that Fire Emblem wouldn’t be on the 3DS anymore (and by that I mean Christmas).
HylianBelmont
said at 3:00 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Soul-dragon I shall upgrade one day, just... not yet, haha.
Ghosty404
said at 1:22 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
I'm dead
TheDayman
said at 1:07 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 4 Shout Outs!
Apparently Jason Adkins is gone as Ike? He was super vintage.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:27 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman I'm guessing Greg Chun is now voicing Ike. I'm ok with that.c
Soul-dragon
said at 1:43 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman He hasn’t voiced Ike for over a year now, since being replaced in Heroes. It’s a shame yes since he was just beginning to get really good but oh well. I’m just happy you get an option to play as his PoR design, since I’ve never really been big on the RD one.
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 1:57 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Soul-dragon

There is a reason why the "Gorilla Ike" memes exists in Japan.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:15 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman It's definitely a shame IMO. Especially considering how much I loved his performance from Brawl/SSB4. But I don't mind Greg Chun either however (though it's not his best role in the series, IMO)

At least Hayter is back as Snake however, so that's most certainly great news.
Amberdoll
said at 11:45 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 4 Shout Outs!
I am so happy that everyone is back for ultimate also the new characters
CelestialOuroboros
said at 11:38 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 6 Shout Outs!
Didn't think Sakurai and team would bring back every character who showed up in the past Smash entries, but by Final Destination...! They did it! Ice Climbers, Wolf, Snake, even Pichu is here!! And what's more is Ridley is playable... Yeah, RIDLEY!!! Who was too big again!? Remind me again, please, guys...

To say I'm hyped for SSB5 would be the understatement of the friggin' century. The artwork so far is looking *gorgeous* as well! BRING ON ULTIMATE, BAYBEE!!!
CelestialOuroboros
said at 8:54 AM on Mon Jun 25 2018
By the way, I am *so* down with seeing a more muscular Zero Suit Samus. Snake's nerfed ass (et), on the other hand... {sigh} #FreeSolidButt
RetroPokeFan
said at 11:35 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 8 Shout Outs!
*immediately faints after seeing the whole lineup*

And Marth's finally got Yuri Lowenthal voicing him, friggin sweet.

Not to mention David Hayter's back as Snake and we're gonna get an all star lineup of some truly talented voice actors from across the world.

This is an absolute dream come true, I never would have thought in my whole life they could have done something like this but Nintendo sure loves surprising us all.

The aforementioned Snake, Daisy, Ridley, Cloud, both Greninja and Lucario, the trainers, Bewear!


It just goes on and on.... this is definitely the game that'll make me consider getting a Switch.
RetroPokeFan
said at 11:37 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@RetroPokeFan Whoops, forgot no one aside from Hayter's been announced.

Mean to say "And from what I've heard from the trailer, it looks like Marth's finally got Yuri Lowenthal voicing him."
Cartoonguy133
said at 12:16 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@RetroPokeFan I wonder if Ray Chase will be Roy and I wouldn't be surprised if Alexis Tipton is voicing Lucina.
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 12:39 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@RetroPokeFan

It also sounds like Greg Chun is back as Ike.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:32 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Cartoonguy133 It definitely sounded like Greg Chun as Ike. I swear, if Ray Chase voices Roy here... I'll be beyond happy! I wanna hear Ray Chase in Smash!
Girlygeek43
said at 6:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Cartoonguy133 I see your point but on one hand Laura might be able to come back since Smash Bros is most likely unionized. But on the other hand she is having a baby. So who knows?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:40 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Girlygeek43 Union or not was never Laura's issue, it's scheduling. 4 was non union and she came back for that.
Digifan
said at 11:23 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:40 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 6 Shout Outs!
This is big! BIG I said! BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG
Chrono
said at 10:00 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 10 Shout Outs!
Now this right here, is the most ambitious crossover in history.
SpongeBat1
said at 11:55 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Chrono Eat it, Infinity War.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:40 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@SpongeBat1

Eat it, MVC Infinite.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:56 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 14 Shout Outs!
https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/1006580598540910593

https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter/status/1006580598540910593

HE'S FREAKING BACK!!!!!
Soul-dragon
said at 9:47 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 6 Shout Outs!
It looks like everyone from the previous games are back and...the absolute madman actually just confirmed Ridley as a playable character! Nintendo what have you done?
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 9:45 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
Nintendo Wong E3 and this is the reason why
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:44 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
 8 Shout Outs!
Game over, man.

GAME FREAKING OVER.
Digifan
said at 1:03 PM on Tue Apr 17 2018
Wishlist:

- Rex (with Pyra and Mythra)
- Snake
- Morag (maybe)
- Ice Climbers
- Chrom
- Azura
- Sephiroth
- Ridley
- Knuckles
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:11 PM on Tue Apr 17 2018
@Digifan

I wouldn't mind Morag at all. Xenoblade 2 has so many characters who would be good in Smash.

Zeke could be funny (even as an Assist Trophy) and Malos would be a great villain choice. They could have a whole system where Blade Cores are an item that let you summon the various Blades... I'm really excited to see what they do with Xenoblade 2 in the game!

XENOBLADE 2 SPOILERS -




I figure Rex using Pyra and Mythra as his main blades he swaps between makes sense. His final smash would involve the two combining like they do towards the end of the game and using Supernova. Ooh, and a really cool bonus would be if Nia's blade form is part of his moveset...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:34 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
As for who I personally want, here's my wishlist.

- Mimikyu
- New!Pokemon Trainer (N, Lillie... Would be sweet if it was a specific character. Uses Serperior, Totodile, and Combusken, or any combination of their pre/evos)
- Rex (with Pyra and Mythra)
- Lip
- Saki
- Dixie Kong
- K. Rool
- Captain Toad and Toadette
- Hades
- Isabelle
- Savvy Stylist
- Chibi Robo
- Mallo
- Rhythm Girl and Monkeys
- Banjo and Kazooie
- Linkle

If we got multiple characters from third-party series:
- Knuckles
- Eggman
- Jeanne
- Rodin
- Chun Li

We got my Squid Kidz, they were at the top for me, so already we're good there! As for ARMS, while I think obviously Spring Man or Ribbon Girl would be the first choices, personally I'd go with Min Min, Twintelle, Mechanica, or Dr. Coyle...

Since Link is being updated with his BOTW look, obviously I figure they can beef up his moveset a little. Change his bombs to remote bombs, maybe change his up-B to the Paraglider, and work in some of the other runes like Magnesis and Stasis. Then Zelda can get some of the Champion's abilities. Swapping out the Sage's abilities for those makes sense to me, especially since a lot of them are pretty similar (e.g. Nayru's Love = Daruk's Protection, Farore's Wind = Revali's Gale... though that one could make sense for Link too).

It's too bad we're reaching critical mass for FE characters because Sigurd, Hector, Ephraim and Eirika would all be AWESOME Smash characters. Celica would be cool too but maybe a bit close to Robin. Obviously I wonder about the chances of FE Switch making it in the game are but I think it'd be easier to think about that when the game's announced.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:14 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Soul-dragon

Cuts? Nah.
Marusero
said at 2:27 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Soul-dragon I kind of disagree on Greninja being cut for this game, and like I said, I would be interested to see a Grass Pokemon alongside him and Charizard. To me, that would make sense. Besides, if Lucario was able to return from Brawl to SSB4, so can Greninja (at least IMO). TBH, I wouldn't mind seeing all the Pokemon characters from SSB4 return (and I hope that's the case).

If there's a certain character I would cut, though, that would be the Wii Fit Trainer.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:43 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Marusero

Nooooo! Wii Fit Trainer is hilarious.

Really though, considering the likely nature of this game building off SSB4 and how cuts have historically been in the past I don't think we need to worry about being too cut-happy here. Cutting unique characters for no apparent developmental reason has pretty much never happened outside Mewtwo and he eventually came back.
Marusero
said at 7:19 AM on Thu Apr 19 2018
@NCZ

Eh, I'm just not a fan of the character in the game, but I still respect your opinion.

Perhaps we'll be seeing little to no cuts, though I do feel like a few characters would need to be given the boot. Regarding Marth and Lucina, I would love to see the latter as an alternate skin for the former (IMO, we would reserve a character slot). As for Mario and Luigi, why not let them have movesets (or at least some new moves) inspired by Odyssey and Luigi's Mansion, respectively? If that's the case, then I wouldn't mind Dr. Mario. In fact, here's a list of some characters I'd like to see return for this game:

-Dixie Kong*
-Charizard
-Mewtwo
-Lucario
-Greninja
-Decidueye or the fully-evolved Grass starter from Gen 8
-Marth (with Lucina as an alternate skin)
-Roy
-Ike
-Robin
-Chibi-Robo* (never played his/its games, though)
-Sonic
-Tails*
-Knuckles*
-Shovel Knight* (never played his game, though)

* = new fighters

Some of these picks may not be likely, I will admit, but that's just me.
Marusero
said at 2:08 PM on Wed May 9 2018
Disregard the "return" on my comment above.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:38 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ "Cuts? Nah."

Prophetic.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:54 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!
Marusero
said at 9:42 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
If we got a new Pokemon representative, I would like to see either Decidueye or the fully-evolved Grass starter from Gen 8. Why? So we can round up the Fire-Water-Grass core. If Gen 8 is released next year, then Decidueye should get in; if said game is released this year, however, then that other Pokemon I mentioned should be included. This is just me, though I'm certain that some of you might agree.

Any other characters you'd like to see? (I have a special rule: no characters from manga/anime, cartoons, movies, etc.)
Soul-dragon
said at 10:16 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Marusero I've already stated my top choice. It's this https://twitter.com/hikiganebousou/status/971914601880317952?s=19.

But realistically it would be sweet to see Walugi in this.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:33 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Marusero

To be fair I think it's safe to say that's the one rule that will never be broken.

As for Pokemon Switch, I think it would make sense to have a Pokemon from Sun and Moon in the base game, and someone from Pokemon Switch as DLC. That way we get the best of both worlds and it probably makes sense from a development point of view.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 4:59 PM on Tue Mar 20 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
Y'all ready to re-litigate Goku's chances again /s?
Ghosty404
said at 2:55 AM on Tue Mar 27 2018
@Scrappy-Fan92 I am really scared to see what would be Goku’s final smash.
Super10ZX
said at 12:13 PM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 1 Shout Out!
I gotta say, when I saw the reveal trailer, it was the most excited I've been in two years of my life!
Soul-dragon
said at 12:59 PM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@Super10ZX Indeed. I'm also feeling a bit giddy since it'll be my first time riding a hype train since both FEW and DRV3 disappointed me in some way.
Shaun Ince
said at 7:37 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
This is one of my most anticipated games for the Nintendo Switch. Always loved Smash Bros & it's great so see a standalone game for Nintendo's current console.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:23 PM on Fri Mar 9 2018
 10 Shout Outs!
Some things to think about to help guide discussion:
- Sakurai IS back.
- Development of the game started in 2016 - two years ago. If the game comes out this fall then that will be 2 and a half years of development time. That's the same amount of time that SSB4 (June 2012 - September/November 2014) and Brawl (October 2005 - January 2008) got.
- It's very likely that the game will at least be built heavily off of SSB4 since they can reuse the engine and iterate on the characters, stages, animations, modes, etc... But at the same time, SSB4 was built off of Brawl and Brawl off Melee. So it's not like it's going to be a simple port. There has been plenty of time for them for a brand new game's worth of content and upgrades.

Now, what do I think?

First of all - wow, the game is coming in 2018! I was hopeful that Smash would be one of their biggest games this year, and I'm really glad that it really will be. I remember after SSB4 came out, I was bracing for another 6-year cycle. So between 2018 and 2020? Totally happy that Smash is coming sooner. I think they'll probably release it in September to tie in with the launch of their paid online program, but depending on what else they have for fall it could maybe be in October or even November.

Second of all the Inklings are finally here. Long overdue since we all thought they'd be a lock for SSB DLC, but I'm so happy to see them at last. BOTW Link too - I'm really excited by the possibility they might refresh Link with some of the runes and other abilities, and it'd be great if we could get other outfits like Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword, and Twilight Princess as alts. And don't even get me started on how much potential it has for stages... I might honestly be as excited for stages as I am for characters. BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 alone could probably give you at least a dozen each!

SSB4's roster is already so insane that it's hard to think of who else they could fit in, but as far as Pokemon go Decidueye, Primarina, or Mimikyu would be sweet, and Bewear, Oranguru, or Tsareena for a left-field pick! Bring back Wolf, Ice Climbers, and Snake and we've got the ultimate collection across the series.

I'm hoping we get an Adventure Mode. SSB4, as dense as it is, had to cut some corners in order to make that 2-year turnaround time and HD transition, and Adventure Mode was the biggest loss. This time around though, I'm hoping they've had enough time that they can justify it, just like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe managed to add back a proper Battle Mode. Whether it's like Melee or a story like Brawl's, I'm really looking forward to see it come back.

As for a third-party character? I got Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. At this point, there's only one guest character who can possibly top that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYWVia5bAM
Ghosty404
said at 7:48 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@NCZ How's aboot Goku? :P
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