One Punch Man

@Honest_Guy_Says
1.Looking on Toonami Faithful's website, the ratings for shows seem to get consistently lower the later a timeslot a show is on for the past years, complaining that OPM has fewer ratings than DB Kai when it's on a later timeslot seems rather shortsighted.
2. I get what you're saying with casting directors in Bang Zoom having agendas or playing favorites, but I fail to see how that applies to OPM here, Max only had a handful of leading roles before, and this is Zach's first leading role.
3. I've seen a lot people who generally don't do dubs and were iffy about OPM's coming around and actually enjoying it (mostly tumblr fujoshis if that's saying anything) I'm just saying, from what I see, the amount of people overall disappointed with the dub is blown out of proportion.
4. Not trying to start anything here, but remember when I complained to Biozero that he excessively praised people instead of constructively criticizing them? You haven't actually stated specifically what you disliked about the performances on the show. Like saying "I felt Saitama's delivery fell flat on this scene" and "I wish his pitch had a bit more energy in this scene". Not saying you'd have to, but it'd be easier to see where you're coming from if you do so.

@Honest_Guy_Says Obvious agendas? I've never even heard of many of this dub's cast before. There are a ton of newcomers in this dub. Chris Jai Alex, David W Collins, Rich Brown, Sara Cravens, Ben Lepley, Edward Basco, and not to mention Chris Sabat and Mike McFarland actually being in an LA anime dub. Chris Cason and Bang Zoom threw plenty of curve-balls with this dub and brought in a ton of new talent.

Also, since when do ratings say anything of a dub's quality? DBZ Kai gets better ratings because it airs earlier, albeit only slightly and it appeals more to the nostalgia of Toonami's old days, not to mention that it airs on regular Cartoon Network a few hours before Toonami starts, which would naturally draw in more viewers. The premiere of this dub had top notch ratings and the reason it dropped is very debatable.

My intention isn't to start an argument or anything, but I feel that a lot of your points don't really add up. Just thinking out loud.

@BioZero216 "The reason it dropped is debatable". So what exactly do you think the cause is for this drop in ratings?

@Honest_Guy_Says I haven't seen much of the dub,but I personally wanted Johnny Yong Bosch in this dub. I'm surprised he's not in this. Considering this being a viz dub. Regardless of what you want to say about him. Johnny delivers.

@Shaun Ince It could be because people only wanted to see the first episode of the dub just out of curiosity. Or perhaps people are just getting tired of staying up so late. It's not so bad in my timezone, but in others it airs in the middle of the night. Who knows?

@BioZero216 Perhaps the initial hype surrounding it has also died down as well? That's also a contributor to it. Though it hasn't taken a really huge hit. It's still second place and that's not a bad place to be on the ratings.

@Honest_Guy_Says I actually agree with you. I mean some voices do stand out like in my opinion Saitama and his acting, Tatsumaki and Amai Mask. But the other voices don't seem right to me. Thanks Honest Guy, I have to say that they could utilize a more diverse talent. It would be badass for all these aspiring voice actors to get a chance to do some work, increasing Bang Zoom's list of possible talents then possibly working with Funimation. WE COULD POSSIBLY RIVAL THE SEIYUU MARKET. I know it is very unlikely, but still, we might stand a chance. If someone on Bang Zoom sees this, "DON'T RELY ON A FEW PEOPLE IF THERE ARE THOUSANDS TO CHOOSE FROM. WE COULD EXPAND THE VA INDUSTRY IF WE DON'T IGNORE THEM." Sorry about that but I am tired of Bryce Papenbrook, Max Mittelman and Ray Chase getting all these main character voices. The dubbing industry can be more diverse.

@4xNicholas That's interesting because I'm actually not that big a fan of Amai Mask's English voice. Ben Lepley's voice sounds to nice for the role, and I end up feeling like I'm watching a completely different character from the Japanese version because of it. And I didn't even think that was possible. Besides that I have no problems with the dub.

@4xNicholas What? Ray Chase has only voiced one anime protagonist in his entire career. Plus, Japanese voice actors are not as diverse as people like to think. They are actually reused far more often than dub voice actors, but no one seems to mind. Yuki Kaji and Kana Hanazawa in particular are everywhere. Why is it that it's okay for Japanese voice actors to be reused constantly but not English voice actors?

@BioZero216 I believe this has to do with the mentality that Japanese voice actors have more talent than English voice actors do. So people tend to think that it's more ok when the Japanese version does it. However, this is mere speculation. And also a thought process that I would not agree with. I believe that there are both English voice actors and Japanese voice actors with a great amount of talent. Just as there are voice actors for both that aren't as talented. Or at least aren't casted well.

The problem is the English non-union talent pool is far smaller than the Japanese talent pool. That makes there objectively is more reuse of talent, because there's less talent for them to draw from. There is a big difference.

The idea that seiyuus are reused just as often as dub VAs is basically an illusion. More output means more work for the VAs.

There are countless games, anime, and drama CDs recorded in Japan every year. So it's natural that actors tend to pop up in things over and over again. The problem is that in English, fewer things are dubbed in comparison and there are fewer people dubbing them. The statistics don't lie.

Also, I would like to point out that it's possible to discuss the dub in a civil way. Trying to deflect from criticisms by going "but what about this other thing" just turns the discussion into something else entirely. Not every critique of a dub, or wanting dubs to be more diverse, is someone saying that all dubs suck. Those are very different statements entirely.

Mr. NCZ. I do like pieces of the dub and the sub. For example, when Saitama (in English) was disappointed, Max showed more disappointment (I know I watched the two side by side). To me, the delivery in English is better. Also I really do like Amai Mask and Tornado. I know Mamoru Miyano sounds great but I feel Ben Lepley made the Amai Mask work really well. As for Tornado, it sounds bratty but somewhat more mature, (a reflection of her age.) That said, Sonic, Genos, Mumen Rider and Sea King seem better to me in Sub.

I will also say, that maybe there are less English non-union actors, but if Mike McFarland and Chris Sabat were in here, and Caitlin Glass, Brina Palencia, Alexis Tipton, Josh Grelle, J Michael Tatum and Joel McDonald were in the Tales of Xillia 2 and Tales of Zestiria. I wanna say, it is possible to get from a bigger pool of voice actors besides the English non-union. Hell, Chris Niosi, Kira Buckland, Sarah Anne Williams and Michael Johnson have done work in Texas with Sentai and Funimation.

I'm saying it is "possible and daresay amazing" if we can unify the anime dubbing industry. With LA talents hiring from Sentai and Funimation; Sentai hiring from LA and Funimation; and Funimation hiring from La and Sentai.

Doesn't the idea seem at least a bit appealing to you guys? Lastly, I personally don't like Tony Oliver's dubs. I mean I do like the acting of them (Hunter x Hunter) and Alibaba in Magi was absolutely amazing in Dub (I mean Yuki Kaji does better for Sonic in OPM) but Alibaba in dub, oh man, that was amazing IMO. I absolutely love the fact that he is introducing new talent to the scene. But I just hate the way he casts them. Like I feel Morgiana, Aladdin, Sinbad, Gyokuen and Hakuryuu had bad English voices and some new talent he brought "MIGHT be able to do a better job". Also sometimes he uses too much of one actor in an anime. In Nura Rise of the Yokai Clan, he used too much Keith Silverstein to the point I felt, is the world revolved around Keith, is the world just about him? I do like Nura but too much Keith made me feel that Tony was lazy. Then in Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic, I could hear a lot of Patrick Seitz and felt the same as I did with Nura.

@4xNicholas I forgot to mention, Tony also messed up with A Lull in the Sea. I felt Hikari, Kaname and Manaka were very underwhelming and sounded too weird, the seiyuus did better on their department. But I would be damned if I did not mention how amazing Tsugumu, Chisaki, Miuna and Uroko are. Their voices sound unique, capture a strong personality, honestly sound better than the subbed for me and it shows Tony is capable of not repeating himself.

@NCZ Re:Talent pool, does that apply to the non-union talent pool combined? (LA, TX, NY, etc altogether) or do you mean just for a given location or studio? Even if we factor in the talent pool from union VAs as well would it really be comparable in size to that of Japan's?

And even with Bang Zoom's small stock of VAs, it's still strange that people treat the OPM dub like it's just another rehash of old regulars given how there are quite a number of VAs who usually don't work with Bang Zoom in it. I understand wanting cast diversity, I do too, but it seems odd that this one of the grievances people have with the dub when this is one of BZ's most varied casts in recent years.

And is it out of line to question someone's reasoning behind their criticisms if they seem short-sighted and/or obstinate? I get not wanting to stir things up, but it seems that sometimes people rely on their assumptions to much to form opinions of a particular work.

Like if someone brought up something like Viz's cast announcement last week and stated the specific issues they had with the producer's, casting director's, and voice director's choices instead of just going "Oh, Max Mittelman in another leading role? They clearly have an agenda."

@Food4thought

Since we're talking about One Punch Man specifically, I'm referring to Bang Zoom here. If One Punch Man was union, then they would have a much wider talent pool to draw from. But it isn't.

Looking over the cast list... I wouldn't really say it's varied, to be honest. The number of people who are new to Bang Zoom is in the single digits. The rest of it is entirely familiar faces. Especially looking at the main and recurring roles, virtually everyone there is a common presence in Bang Zoom and non-union dubs in general. If you watch a lot of those, looking at it on paper, I can completely understand why this would come across as samey.

Regarding agendas... Hmmmm...

Generally speaking, I don't think it's inaccurate to suggest there might be reasons behind why in recent years, Bang Zoom has become so keen on "rookie", early-20s-or-so actors, hyping them up, and casting them in numerous dubs. This is going to sound cynical, but to be realistic for a moment: A lot of people nowadays have grown up on anime and want to be an anime voice actor. Bang Zoom mainly does non-union dubs which are done cheaply, with low pay, and tend to rely heavily on a small pool of actors (since most actors looking to make their "big break" don't have interest in non-union or dub work except as a last resort). For people who have it as that kind of goal, the satisfaction of being able to work on anime regularly as well as the job security (+ additional publicity, money, etc. from conventions) are usually sufficient enough. Eventually new actors will come along and they'll get a similar sort of limelight. The other actors might get pushed to the side or find work elsewhere if they've managed to make meaningful connections and/or successfully found work in other ventures. Many of the truly successful voice actors have observed that you can't live off of non-union anime dubs forever. The VAs that have lasted in the business as long as they have do so because

A) They've managed to successfully branch out and spread their wings into other voiceover fields
B) Voiceover is a passion of theirs that they may do in addition to other jobs
C) They are just that skilled.

I'm not implying any malicious intent or anything at all here but, it's all just basic capitalism. In the short term, being the next hot name in anime is an exciting prospect, but it's not a train that can be ridden forever. I think in general, it's fair to be wary and understand that just because someone pops into a bunch of non-union anime dubs in a short span of time, that doesn't make them the second coming of Jesus. That makes them a person trying to earn a living in an industry that basically requires you to take on a large quantity of jobs if you want to bring in money. Voice actors are people too. As are casting directors, and they're just trying to get by. Having an inflated sense of self is a bad idea so it's important to stay humble about that too.

I don't think it's a "conspiracy" or anything. But this is a common trend that occurs in the entertainment business. Note how the pop music industry or Hollywood come up constantly with new stars and then move onto the next fresh face for example. Bang Zoom is (hopefully) far less exploitative than that, but it's a similar concept.

The final key thing to understand is that Bang Zoom doesn't have the luxury of being able to cast every actor in the Los Angeles area, due to these limitations. They have to make do with the limited pool they have, which is a tiny fraction of an already-existing pool. The vast majority of miscast roles in non-union dubs occur because the actors who WOULD be able to do justice to a role aren't an option for whatever reason, directors fall back on the few tried-and-true/typecast names they're already acquainted with, or try a total shot in the dark that swings and misses. There's a far greater likelihood to get casting wrong when there are fewer people available to be cast.

As far as specific actors go? I don't know. It's true that also a lot of people in the community are friends with each other and like to do each other favours. I think any "agendas" are basically just the overarching trends I've described manifesting themselves.

People can agree or disagree if they want, but looking at it that way... I think that's a valid critique to raise about Bang Zoom. The fact is, non-union dubs are not very diverse on paper. While there are some dubs that manage to shake things up a bit, in general, it's completely accurate to say that the small talent pool means dubs have a problem in regards to the reuse of actors. It is what it is, and people can take it or leave it. But the talent pool being smaller than most others is a fact.

Also I'd like to say that I'm not interested in this show at all, so I'm speaking solely as an outsider with no real bias. I mainly came in here to keep things from getting too off-rails.

@Food4thought Well dude, what I am trying to say is I do like the diversity.

It is quite appealing for new VAs from Texas and possibly New York to help LA and vice versa. I know it might not happen, but I feel it could as seen with Rio Rainbow Gate's dub using Sarah Anne Williams and Kira Buckland. Then Tales of Zestiria, Xillia II and OPM itself using Texas voice actors.

However, I just don't like the way they are cast. Like many Kyle Herbert could have been a different character and Xander Mobus. Thats what I am trying to say.

@NCZ Well Mr. NCZ, that is a shame. Thanks for informing me of how this system works. I just wanted to think of an interesting possibility and share it if it is possible. So that way we have more VA diversity. Well, I'll just wait and see if my thoughts could be a reality.

@Honest_Guy_Says Gotta say, man, this **** storm that your comment started...has been incredibly informative.

@BioZero216 "Japanese voice actors are not as diverse as you think"

Depends on which voice actors we're talking about. To even imply they aren't diverse is a fallacy.

@Shaun Ince But they're still much more recycled than people say and yet no one complains. When dub voice actors are reused, everyone complains about lack of variety.

@BioZero216 Basically your point is, there's a double standard and it needs to be called out on, even though most people that complain about reusing voice actors don't even care about their own hypocrisy. Considering most people that complain about this mostly exist outside of this website, you won't see it that much on here.

Besides NCZ brings up a good point, non union talent pool for English dubs is much smaller meaning recycling voice actors is going to be more common. And it's also not specific to one dubbing studio.

Japan just has more talent to draw from. Other than the really successful Japanese voice actors (Rie Kugamiya, Shinichiro Miki, Koichi Yamadera, Yuki Kaji) I think you might be over exaggerating their overuse a little bit.

You know the saying: "you haven't seen all the dubs in the world, if you think all of them suck" which is something you stand by, no doubt. But let me ask you this.

Have you watched every anime that's in Japanese to know that all of them are overused? You haven't, so that argument doesn't hold up either.

You can't have your cake & eat it too.

@Shaun Ince

"non union talent pool for English dubs is much smaller meaning recycling voice actors is going to be more common."

I think it depends on the state that does anime dubbing. As far as I know, Texas is a LOT bigger than Los Angeles and even New York since you got a wide variety of voice talent from Dallas and Houston respectively along with the occasional voice actor from LA that comes in to visit (e.g. Patrick Seitz, Matt Mercer, Christopher Corey Smith) for voice work.

As to my thoughts on this issue, frankly, I do not have an issue if the dub in Los Angeles is Non-union and the talent pool they tend to re-use a lot for their dubs. The only thing that I am more concerned on, is that the majority of anime voice work is just primarily done at Bang Zoom! these days.

I have nothing against BZ! as a studio, but I still would like for certain shows to be sent to other recording studios like Studiopolis, NYAV Post, the studio that recorded Dragon Dentist (Salami), SDI Media (Knights of Sidonia), Deluxe (Little Witch Academia). To Bang Zoom!'s credit though they are using different actors for the lead role in their respective shows, along with not overusing the same actors in every dub (e.g. Todd Haberkorn) and using some of their other talent pool that barely get any roles for variety.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 Good point.

@Disembodied Voice I kinda get where you're coming from, I mean I watched OPM subbed first, so when I watched the dub at first it felt kind of off. (Not sure where you're coming from in the 17 part, his register gets deeper than Furukawa's at parts)

But if you watched anime subbed first, you'll get attached to the initial impression of it, so it'll be hard to open yourself up to another interpretation or take of a character. At around episode 2 I started hearing Max as "Saitama" I felt that he captured both his goofy unassuming character and badass moments. I don't know much of it you've watched, but I recommend at least watching a couple more episodes.

And saying that certain work is too "Japanese" therefore it won't be dubbed well seems rather shortsighted. FLCL was assumed to be too "Japanese" for a good dub, yet it still ended up being well received overall

@Disembodied Voice 17 year olds sound and look like their 30.

Its just like when some guy said he's 15. The other guy says "Dude, you look 30, man!"

It can also be reversed too.

@Disembodied Voice How are they deeply rooted in Japanese culture? With anime like Gintama, saying that is understandable, but I don't get that at all from ONE's work. I think you may just be too used to the sub.

@Food4thought

IMO only easily persuaded people get attached to the first voice(s) they hear; I'd like to believe the average person is more intelligent than to be imprinted so easily like a newborn. I've watched a lot of anime subbed but then preferred the dub and I've also watched plenty of dubs first, and then rewatched it subbed and ended up liking its cast better. Whatever version someone watches first should have no influence on which cast they end up preferring. One cast is ultimately going to be better and more likeable (whether by a small or large margin varies title to title, character to character).

It's a shame some fans (and VAs themselves) can't always accept this fact. Instead they get extremely defensive (a natural reaction) and can't admit that someone else did a better job. There's no shame in it. A psychiatrist could probably make a fortune off the insecurities and bloated egos of some dub VAs who believe they're better than they actually are... This is especially noticeable with younger/newer talent who grew up with an entitled attitude and told everyday they're special. It really shouldn't be that big of a surprise considering a huge majority of them decided to forgo the traditional route and skipped acting school (even though that's the route true successful pros take and most likely what the VAs they looked up to growing up did).

With One Punch Man the Japanese cast is most definitely superior from both the ear test and analytics point of view, but the dub is still watchable even though it could've been better in some areas...

Off topic but I'm actually curious how butt-hurt and salty some people on this page will be when it gets snubbed for the next awards (at best maybe 1 supporting nom is my guess).

@freezeframe100 A LOT of people are much more easily persuaded than they'd like to acknowledge, that goes both ways of course. If you follow politics or internet drama then that much is obvious.

Could you explain the "Bloated Egos" thing more, like name names? From what I know a lot of dub VAs have experience in acting or theater aside from a handful. Do you mean their interactions with fans end up creating an echo chamber for themselves?

I still prefer the series in Japanese myself tbh (first 3 episodes anyway), all I'm saying is to try to keep an open mind. If you feel that you've given it enough of a shot and still don't like it then that's fine.

@Food4thought Also could you list examples, maybe links to social media for the "Bloated Egos" thing? You could send it to me in private if you wish.

@freezeframe100 Sadly, bias is a very common thing in the anime community. Many people are just too used to the version they saw first to accept a different version. And where did you get the bloated ego thing from? Most dub VA's are very humble and kind people. They also respect subs and sub fans ver much. Is it because some of them have complained about dub haters? Well, they're only referring to the ones who are obnoxious about it and they make it clear that they don't hate subs or sub fans in anyway. Seriously, I have no idea where you're getting this from. Honestly, you're coming off as pretty rude about it. Especially with that "butthurt and salty" bit at the end.

@Disembodied Voice Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Max Milletman suppose to around the same age as Saitama in the current story timeline, I definitely heard Saitama mentioned to Genos that he did say in Episode 2 that he's 25 years-old?

@King Marth 64 Max is 26.

@Disembodied Voice I watched the sub first also, and think the dub sounds perfect, just the fact that its in english makes it better. Max is a great VA, and fits Saitama perfectly, same with Zach for Genos. Idk with some people whatever they watch first no matter how bad or good, is what they tend to like so I think thats where youre coming from.

@Disembodied Voice ... What? Japanese culture? Dude this anime is straight up a parody of American comics. Avatar the Last Airbender, an American cartoon, was rooted in more Japanese culture.

Also 17 year old? You realize there's not much of a difference between an adolescent and someone in their 20s voice wise, right?

@freezeframe100 Honestly considering the popularity of said show, the chances of it getting snubbed at the BTVA awards is very small. It's also for the most part, well loved by most of the members here. You never know. You might prove me wrong. But I am interested in seeing whether it will make it or not.

@Shaun Ince

Not that I agree or disagree, since I can't comment on what does or doesn't get nominated before it happens, but popularity alone isn't always going to be the sole metric of what gets nominated. If anything does, or doesn't, get nominated it's in spite of how popular or unpopular it is and purely based on the quality of the performance.

@NCZ Yeah, you're right.

@ScottMyers

I haven't seen the dub yet but do you mean that literally? Sure Saitama is a cool character to the audience, but his personality isn't supposed to exude "cool" or "awesome" 24/7 within the established setting. That's why he's not taken seriously as a hero and a large part of his personality is his dopey nature.

If he sounds "cool" all the time it seems a like a bad voice direction decision...

@EVRoss When I say that, I mean that Max Mittelman performs the character awesomely, not that he has a really cool voice. I had judged Mittelman's voice based off his portrayal of Kousei in Your Lie in April, and didn't know his voice could sound much older than that. Hence the main reason I gave him kudos.

@ScottMyers He sure does; I Also like that they ACTUALLY Gave Vaccine Man the English Dub Voice of Piccolo(Seriously, if they didn't that would've been a SEVERELY Missed Oppurtunity)

@TVman That's not the only oppurtunity they took casting Paul St. Peter(Leomon from Digimon) as The Beast King can anyone say perfect

@animasterman I didn't realize that casting till earlier today when I was showing my friend some of the casting calls, lol. Now if only they had done something similar with Carnage Kabuto. I guess a reference could be how Kabuto is a type of helmet and Mike played Helmeppo in One Piece.

@animasterman Also Bryce Papenbrook as Marugori.

@Marakutanay Would've been better if they casted David Matranga

@Ichigo341578926 I don't really hear the resemblance.

@Troodon2
Nope

@BlueHeracross Well, who ever it was, he is a pretty good sound-a-like.

@Troodon2 It's Ben Diskin and to be honest he sounds like a younger version Steve Blum depending on the roles he's playing as. Not to mention that the OPM dub is non-union and Steve only works in Union-only productions of Anime these days.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 Man, that makes me wish this was a Union dub.

@Troodon2 I can say that about lots of dubs these days

@King Marth 64 Oh wait, I just found it was mentioned in the VIZ Media's official blog listed for Bang Zoom Entertainment, but still surprising to see them appearing.

@simander95 It was already said that he's voicing Ground Dragon. Unless you mean a character that is more than just a one time character.

@Ichigo341578926 actually i didnt realize that he'd been cast as someone before i posted the comment. but yeah it would be better if he was a minor recurring character then a one of appearance

@Honest_Guy_Says
"Maybe just me but I think anime dubs in general peaked in 2013 and slowly went on a gradual decline since."

It IS just you. We're still getting great dubs every year, like Attack on Titan (and Junior High), Blood Blockade Battlefront, Tokyo Ghoul (and Root A), Noragami, ... or any other dub ADR Directed by Mike McFarland. For dubs NOT Directed by McFarland, you have Toradora, Kill la Kill, Sword Art Online II, Your Lie in April, Death Parade, Space Dandy, Terror in Resonance, etc... Plenty of great dubs since 2013 that, I guess, are going unnoticed.

Lets not judge an entire dub on just the first episode, okay?

@Raebo

Dude... you're kind of validating his point. There are on average about 80 new dubs produced each year; 2016 already has more than 100. The fact that you only listed a few dubs (and dubs everybody is already aware of are mostly good) pretty much shows that majority of dubs are extremely forgetful and sub-par efforts.

Also Mike McFarland is an extremely overrated ADR Director. I insist you watch a low-tier title like No-Rin or The Galaxy Railways and tell me you honestly think those are AMAZING dubs. You'd honestly have to be half-retarded to screw up a dub for well written shows like FMA or One Piece. Heck nobody seems to be complaining about the quality of One Piece even though Jewel, McDonald and Angelle have all directed several chunks recently so how "great" is McFarland if the quality is perfectly fine without him?

@Omar_Lopez
You could apply "there's more bad than good" to anything, though. There's always been less than stellar dubs being released alongside exceptional ones, that's not something that just popped up a couple years ago, that's kind of a constant.

In the meantime, there's been very little dubbed OPM to judge. I'm not saying that a negative reaction is any less valid than a positive one, but maybe decrying it as wasted potential is a little hasty?

And while I can't speak for most of McFarland's smaller dubs, (though since you brought it up, I liked Galaxy Railway's dub just fine) I doubt that just by virtue of handling a good show, a good adaptation is guaranteed or easier to produce... I mean, 4kids One Piece was still a thing that happened.

@Omar_Lopez ADR directors are irrelevant in dubs.

Also, One Piece isn't well-written.

@Omar_Lopez

Dude, The Galaxy Railways? That show came out over 10 years ago, and he didn't even direct it himself. That show had multiple different directors, including Chris Cason, the current ADR Director of OPM. The quality of No-Rin's dub is debatable (just like the dub of OPM), but I found it really enjoyable (Tia Ballard gave one of her best performances in that show, and I could tell the rest of the cast was really into it).

And it's funny you bring up One Piece, because I can most certainly tell that Mike didn't direct the most recent episodes of One Piece. The quality may be "fine", but Joel McDonald can't seem to get as much out of the actors like Mike McFarland can.

In short, if most of the dubs Mike McFarland directs end up being great, how "overrated" can he REALLY be?

@AntiSabat666 "ADR directors are irrelevant in dubs", really?

@Autovolt Yeah. Overall we've kinda been getting a newer wave of voice actors the last few years. Like Funimation also has taken some risks lately. Most of Grimgar for example was extras or new voice actors. And then I think abunch of us were shocked to see the very new Justin Briner as the lead in that show.

It's good to see it happen in LA too. Like with the cast of this. Max just started getting lead roles last year, Zach just started last year, Erik has only been in industry for a couple years (though he has done a great job getting lead roles), Robbie has had a couple big roles, Marieve has only had a couple roles and basically got her first lead one earlier this year with Love Live. So overall they're doing a good job letting a new wave of voice actors shine and also surprising us overall. I don't think I saw ANY of these actors listed under predictions.

@Autovolt

I hate being that annoying know-it all but Cason literally ain't responsible for anything (at best maybe casting guest roles like Vaccine Man; it's common in dubs for people to do favors for each other)

California has SEPARATE casting directors for lead roles. In not like in Texas where ADR Directors do all the casting themselves.

If the cast does well, he can claim credit for directing them. If they happen to suck... he has the excuse of "I didn't cast them"

@PsychicVoiceSpy I think he would be better as Lord Boros

@PsychicVoiceSpy I agree completely.

Sometimes I feel like they keep forgetting he exists.

Maybe they'll cast him as Lord Boros or Deep Sea King in addition to Bearded Worker?

I mean it's not like you can only have one role in this dub, Kyle Hebert and Kirk Thornton have multiple roles.

I dunno I'm like you, I just feel he is very deserving more roles.

@Autovolt I agree. I would love to hear him as Boros or Deep Sea King, especially DSK because I don't think he's ever voiced an over-the-top villain like that before.

It's just a shame, I feel, that despite how he well he can do at both dramatic and comedic roles (don't forget his screaming ability), he tends to get really dry side characters that have very little personality or significance.

@PsychicVoiceSpy I know, right? Carrie Keranen and Cassandra Lee Morris were NY VAs long before they came to officially work in the LA dubbing scene and they hit it big with their first dubs there. Marc Diraison deserves just as much as Carrie and Cassandra.

@TrueMyriad Think Sean Schemmel could be a good voice for Boros.

@Dee15gon now that you mention it, I think Sean might be an outstanding choice for Boros

@PsychicVoiceSpy and @Jared Delgado Absolutely agree, I feel that out of all the NY voice actor that moved to Los Angeles, Marc Diraison tends to be the most overlooked on whichever dub he's involved in. Veronica Taylor is also in the same boat as Marc and I haven't seen her in any another anime titles outside of Sailor Moon and Gundam: The Origin. I hope Marc gets to voice a secondary or leading character in a LA title just like when Carrie Keranen and Cassandra Lee got their roles.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 Seems like there's been alot more crossover lately between the Texas and California crews.

@TrueMyriad That is one of my favorite announcements ever!

@Shaun Ince

That stinks. Is there any other way that anime fans in your country will be able to watch the show's English dub? Legally, of course.

@MegaMike1990 As of right now, nothing.

@MegaMike1990 Thing is, Toonami in the UK went off the air over 10 years ago. It's even more niche over here than it is in America. So we end up having to wait the longest when it comes to anime releases, especially the ones on DVD & Blu-ray. It has been picking up slightly in recent years but without an anime block over here, no-one is getting exposed to anime as much anymore.

@Shaun Ince

Hmm, there was a petition to bring back Toonami UK years ago, but that was closed unfortunately. The worse part in that last petition was only 14 people signed it.

@MegaMike1990 Yeah, unfortuantely not a whole lot of people care about anime over in the UK.

@King Marth 64 Last night was the finale of Samurai Champloo's Toonami airing, so next week OPM will fill in that time slot. So the line up now is DBZ Kai, Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans, HunterXHunter, and then One Punch Man.

@BlueScarabGuy Naruto Shippuden and One Piece are still in the time line also.

@King Marth 64 And Noby's great grandson from Doraemon also.

@BioZero216 Well based on that Beast King sounds like Paul St. Peter.

@Ichigo341578926 If not him it's probably Richard Epcar. I hope it's Paul St. Peter though. The potential Leomon jokes are endless.

@Nightmare Crusher Wasn't even thinking about the Leomon aspect, but now that I think about it that is hilarious.

@BioZero216 The Japanese version itself had a joke with him being voiced by Leol from Hunter x Hunter

@Ichigo341578926 I know Paul St Peter anywhere. Yup, Leomon is Paul St Peter.

@Ichigo341578926 Sounds like it could be Fred Tatasciore.

@Nightmare Crusher That Lion Monster is Paul St Peter. Nost definitely. I can pick up his voice almost immediately. As for Epcar being in this dub, It could be possible. Also the Purple Piccolo character is definitely Sabat.

@Shaun Ince I don't know if it's Chris Sabat, it could be Patrick Seitz, unless if Chris Sabat made some arrangements to fly out to LA to voice Vaccine Man for just the first episode.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 I've listened to the trailer numerous times and still believe it's Sabat. Also he has done VO stuff in LA before(He was in a Final Fantasy title) And considering the voice director is someone that has directed numerous FUNi dubs, leads me to believe that he made the decision to cast Sabat for this one episode. Once we get a full cast list, we'll know what we're dealing with.

@Shaun Ince Keep in mind that Dissidia (where Sabat dubbed Kenji Utsumi at Square Enix's request) was dubbed at *Studiopolis*.

While Cason has only directed small Bang Zoom things so far, there were early hints that Mary McGlynn would be directing.

& this is a show deserving of the best kind of dub...so it's possible this is at Studiopolis, & thus it'd make further sense to work with Sabat, seeing as he's done stuff for them before.

@huzaifa_ahmed

Dissidia was done at Skylark Sound, not Studiopolis.

@Shaun Ince I wouldn't be surprised if Chris Sabat is the voice for Vaccine Man since he does look like Piccolo from DBZ, but I say it's best to wait until the dub episode comes out this Saturday to find out.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 I also think it definitely sounds like Sabat. While the deeper parts of his few lines in that trailer could be mistaken, I feel like I can hear the Vegeta break through on "FOR FUN?! HOW DARE YOU!".

Vaccine Man being a DBZ reference is extra funny here too, since even though he looks like Piccolo (and, if it is Sabat, has Piccolo's voice in English), he's voiced by Frieza in Japanese.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 Where does it say July 16th?

@Troodon2 They announced it through Toonami's AX panel and the trailer just came out confirming the release date.

@DisneyAnimefan1995 Ah okay.

@lazydude500 OH, NO YOU DON'T. I have high expectations for this dub, and they are going to STAY HIGH until I'm able to see it for myself. Your cynicism will have no affect on me!

@Raebo It's true that we all have our own opinions and they aren't necessarily out there in order to persuade others, but at the very least, they made a point to elaborate why they're hesitant instead of blindly driving-by and going "this dub will probably suck". Just as it's fine to be optimistic based on what evidence there is, it's fine to draw the opposite conclusion too.

@lazydude500 Different opinions. I don't really think we're settling at all. I think this sounds great.

@CatsTuxedo

Sometimes that can backfire as history has proven numerous times

@lazydude500 To be fair every well known VA was a fresh face once.

@Zillah

True but none of these men are exactly fresh faces. And not every "well known VA" is equally talented as the next. Some are tiers above others in natural talent & likability from day 1. No amount of experience or role accumulation will change that.

@lazydude500 Well by fresh faces I mean relatively new VA's, and as you know everyone who's made a name for themselves in the industry was new to it at one point (I'm probably repeating myself but w/e).

Personal opinions on the show aside, These roles could prove to be big stepping stones for some of these guys.

@lazydude500 So you're saying actors can't improve with experience? And what exactly do you mean by natural talent?

@Food4thought Where in his original comment did he say that VA's can't improve? He's saying that sometimes casting someone new can backfire & bring the dub down. The same can also go for casting someone with years of experience in the wrong role.

@Shaun Ince 'And not every "well known VA" is equally talented as the next. Some are tiers above others in natural talent and likeability from day 1. No amount of experience or role accumulation will change that.'

@Food4thought

You're putting words in his mouth. He didn't say it's impossible for actors in general to improve with experience.

Remember that acting is about mentality. Every actor brings a different mindset and approach to their roles. It's easy to both get stuck in your ways or take routes that may not always be the best compared to another. How an actor is trained is instrumental in making them lean towards certain directions. If for example, you have a theatrical background, you're going to look at a role very differently than someone who has trained themselves purely to "do cartoon voices" or something like that. Just as an example.

As every person has a different brain, that means their mentalities and thought processes will never be the same as another person. No matter what, you can never guarantee that you'd be making the exact same choices that another actor would, and that can be a good or bad thing.

Voices are also about physicality. Some people physically aren't able to take their voices in directions that others can. That's unchangeable.

There's also the fact that an actor's ability can be choked if directors only seem to use them for specific roles or purposes instead of fully using their skillset. If an actor ends up being typecast, that'll limit their mobility in the industry.

Now of course, coming back to my last point about mentality, there's no way I can guarantee this is what the other person is thinking, but from my perspective on the outside, I can understand what they're getting at.

@Food4thought I know NCZ basically answered it for me in his response to you, but that quote you just para-phrased, you are percieving it the wrong way. That being said, that's just lazydude500 feels when it comes to casting new faces in a dubbed anime. And it's not a bad thing to have these thoughts or even express doubt. Be optimistic about it all you want but just take into account that not everyone feels the same way you do about these VA's.

@Shaun Ince I understand not everyone is going to have the same opinion, and I'm somewhat iffy on Zach being cast as Genos as of now, even though I haven't heard him yet, so I wouldn't call myself entirely optimistic

I was mostly put off by Lazydude's wording, mainly the word "natural talent". Since you and NCZ explained it better I can see where he's coming from. So uh, thanks to you both.

@Food4thought No problem.

@DisneyAnimefan1995

Saw in an article that OPM won't be shown on Toonami until the end of the year.

Link to article:
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/74662/20160423/one-punch-man-season-2-delayed-season-1-to-release-on-toonami.htm

@MegaMike1990 You do realize this article is not reliable and it was released back in April.

@DisneyAnimefan1995

Well, then I can't go by the Tweet that was featured in the article. Maybe the Twitter account for the franchise was saying a prediction for when it will air on Toonami.

@CatsTuxedo Agreed. When I was watching the Boros fight, I actually thought to myself, "Wow, these guys would be great at animating a Superman fight... they'd put every single animated Superman so far to shame."

@Zillah I didn't hate it but I think it's severely overrated.

@Zillah With all due respect, I don't see anything hate-worthy about it. It is overhyped and glorified by some of its fans to an absurd degree and that can get pretty annoying, but I chose to block that stuff out and enjoy it for what it is, and I ended up really liking it.

What did you hate about it?

@Zillah and @VaisuKaguya The show is very funny and honestly it is considered to be one of the best Fall 2015 anime. But I have to disagree with you two since don't think the show and the fanbase is overrated and in the same level as Attack on Titan, DBZ Fairy Tail, & Tokyo Ghoul (for anime), alongside Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead and MLP:FiM (for Pop-Culture). If you don't like the show, that's fine but please keep your thoughts to yourself, and PsychicVoiceSpy does bring up a valid point: "You enjoy for what it is, and you end up liking it." (regardless if the anime, cartoon, movie, or show is not your cup of tea.)

For one thing I never said I disliked it, but I didn't LOVE it like most people. And second, nothing wrong with sharing opinions if you're not being an ass about it, which I don't think I or Zillah were.

@PsychicVoiceSpy Well firstly I thought the characters were pretty dreadful, ranging from really boring to really annoying (with the exception of Mumen Rider and to an extent, Tornado Girl). I also found the humor to be really uninspired and bland, gradually getting worse as it went on, I really felt like they were beating a dead horse with its jokes and it got really annoying after a while. I'm normally alright with satire, but the execution of said humor left a lot to be desired in this case. I tried to like it, I really did, but I just could not get myself to.

Even with all that I can't say it's completely without its positives. The music's pretty cool (I really liked that acoustic guitar bit), and the animation is well done too, but to me, good music and animation means almost nothing if the rest of it is mediocre at best.

Again, this is all just my opinion, and in no way am I try to change anyone else's, nor do I wish to start any fights, and I do respect your opinion as well. Thank you for being cool about it though.

@Zillah Well, I've felt something similar to that about another show before, so I at least understand how you feel.

@PsychicVoiceSpy Out of curiosity, what show would that be?

@Zillah I'll tell you in a PM.

Maybe "hate" was a kind of strong word to describe how I felt, but I'm still not a fan of this show. It's kind of weird because I feel like this is one of those shows that should be right up my alley, I probably should like it, but I just don't somehow. I've already went into the specifics so I'll just leave it there.

@Metabad Lol!

@Metabad Oh lordy I never thought of that one.

@Zillah I think it helps if you don't think of it as a show with serious conflict, but rather an action comedy that's kind of a parody of certain anime tropes or something. The story is so silly and full of over-the-top cliches that I think you're meant to focus on those things and how it parodies them rather than the character overcoming obstacles or resolving conflict.

Then again, that was just my impression of it after the first three episodes. If it just does the same thing in every episode and Saitama never faces any kind of challenge, then that will probably frustrate me. IDK, I need to get caught up on this and come back later.

@PsychicVoiceSpy I see. I had a feeling it wasn't supposed to be a super serious show after seeing like, the first episode. I guess my main problem is that it makes fun of itself a little TOO much, if that makes any sense. I don't really know how else to describe it.

Still, I'll keep watching it and giving it a chance. Maybe I'll end up changing my mind about it and end up liking it, we'll see.

@Omar_Lopez i thought funimation only did broadcast dubs

@komodod11 Your right, but recently Aniplex USA did a broadcast dub for Durararax2 earlier this year and are right now in the series second arc. It's currently their first and only broadcast dub so far.

@Omar_Lopez
I'd be surprised if Viz actually did do a broadcast dub. IMO it's unlikely. Viz's priority has always been manga. While their anime department has improved in recent years I'm pretty sure they have a smaller number of staff working there.

Not sure if Viz has the resources and enough staff to supervise and organize a broadcast dub; especially since 99% of all anime resources at the moment are being spent on the Sailor Moon franchise.

As appealing as a broadcast dub would be I'd rather wait a year for a GREAT dub rather than just a good dub; and there's no guarantee it would even be a good dub if TPTB botch the casting...

@Omar_Lopez

Also AFAIK there's more money to be made from getting it on TV (Toonami) which this anime is pretty much a lock for. Doing a broadcast dub before would lower its value. Why would Toonami pay more $ for a dub that's already available online (legally and illegally)? In that situation Toonami would have more bargaining power than Viz to negotiate a lower cost. While the longer Viz waits, the more the demand grows (fans requesting Toonami) and then Viz can ask for a higher fee per episode.

Making the dub a TV premiere also means more viewers and increased 18-34 year old demographic which = more advertising $ for Toonami