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The Doctor 12-20-2018 07:58 AM

"Hellboy" (2019)
Next year, we are finally getting a third Hellboy movie. Unfortunately, it's not the final chapter in Guillermo del Toro's trilogy, but a complete reboot directed by Neil Marshall. I can't say that I wasn't little dissappointed, when this news was reported for the first time, since del Toro is one of my all-time favorite directors and both of his Hellboy movies were really solid, but those movies aren't really sacred cows for me and while he is below del Toro, I would consider Marshall one of my favorite directors too, so I was (and still am) open for this project.

And now we have the first trailer:

I admit that I'm only a casual Hellboy fan at best. Besides the two del Toro movies, my only exposure to the franchise are two grapich novels by Mike Mignola and the two direct-to-DVD animated movies, so I can't claim to know what what is the "correct" way to tackle this material, but this trailer wasn't too impressive.

Both Mignola and Marshall pitched this movie as darker and more horror - esque take on the material, with a hard R - rating, but based on this trailer it doesn't seem to be tonally all that different from the previous movies. What is different, however, is the lack of del Toro's sense of charm and his amazing practical effects. This almost feels like a cheap direct-to-video sequel to his Hellboy movies made by some gun-for-hire director.

I understand that this is just the first trailer. The tone of a trailer can be completely different from the tone of the final product (case in point: compare the first trailer of Disney's Tangled to the actual movie) and effects obviously aren't finnished yet. I'll wait for the second trailer, before forming any strong opinions, but I can't say that I'm currently hyped.

TylerMirage 12-20-2018 09:09 AM

Re: Saved from Development Hell, Boy (2019)
Completely agreed, Doctor. When they first announced that it was going to be a more GRIMDARKSERIOUSBRO gritty, R-rated Hellboy story, I was like "Not my thing, but okay". I'd rather these folks do their own thing and make it different from the GDT Hellboy movies. So more power to them on giving it their own unique stamp.

But this trailer makes it seem like it's also trying to be light-hearted enough to stand next to the GDT movies. But also not. It's dark and gritty...while also trying to be fun and not take itself too seriously. We're gonna' have blood and swearing...but enough jokes to please the PG-13 crowd that might buy it on Blu-Ray and watch it at home. Like it's struggling with what it's trying to be.

Honestly, it basically looks like the GDT Hellboy movies except without the colour and, like you said, Doctor, the charm.

With that said, I'll give it a chance. I always love comparing remakes and reboots to each other. Plus, David Harbour is perfectly cast as Hellboy.



Originally Posted by Neil Marshal;
Its definitely going to be as practical as we can possibly make it. I love to do stuff in-camera whenever I possibly can, and use CG as the amazing tool that it is, to enhance or expand upon the world, but not to use it to replace reality, when you can do it [for] real.


Originally Posted by David Harbor;
A lot of it [was] very practical, practical monsters and practical fights not a lot of CGI.

:laughing: O really?

The Doctor 04-12-2019 01:15 PM

Re: Saved from Development Hell, Boy (April 2019)
I just saw this and it didn't leave me with any strong emotions. It doesn't deserve the slaughtering it is getting from the critics (and will probably get at the box office), but I don't think I have any reason to ever rewatch this.

The actions scenes aren't too bad and probably on par (on visual/spectacle - level) with Del Toro's movies, and while there was a lot of cheap CGI, there was also a suprising amount of practical creatures and the pig-man looked really good. Not to mention, many of the monsters clearly had a lot of imagination put into designing them. Unfortunately the story and characters are so shallow that there's really no hook for me to care about the consequences of all the action. Hellboy's (the character's) inner conflic comes almost out of nowhere and gets resolved too easily, his relationship with his father isn't emotionally resonating enough to have the impact it is trying accomplish, the main villain is boring and the climax revolves around a ridicilous coincidence.

David Harbour is giving his all, but the script gives him very little to work with and the make-up seems to restrict him too much, since he has the same grimace on his face, no matter the scene or character's emotional state, throughout the whole movie. The other actors (except Milla Jovovich, who I knew not to expect much from) are clearly motivated too, but they have even less to work with.

There are also many weird small details. For example, during the climax the main villain unleashes a deadly plague and people are adviced to stay inside, yet, when the giant monsters from the trailers are set loose, the streets are full of people just walking like it was normal day. The overuse of the F-Boms also got unintentionally hilarious and I started to wonder, if the dialogue was doctored by an edgy teenage boy or something.

And I have to say that the soundtrack sucks! It was either some old rock hits, which didn't fit the scenes they were played in, or extremely generic banging and booming, which started to hurt my ears after a while.

In the end, if you in mood for some monster fights and gore - effects, this isn't a painful way to waste two hours, but you won't find engaging story or interesting character arcs here.

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