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Domayv 12-12-2014 08:39 PM

Are Vancouver dubs going to go extinct?
 
With the departures of Trevor Devall and Matt Hill to LA in 2013, the possible loss of their flagship Gundam series to NYAV Post due to Right Stuf's (the company that has made a deal with Sunrise to be the future distributor for the Gundam series) close ties with that company, and Viz and AoA not bothering to use Vancouver as an alternative to LA union-contracted dubs (which actually are more expensive than Vancouver dubs and it's getting increasingly hard to hire Union-only VAs to appear in dubs ever since the recession), are Vancouver dubs going to go by the way of the dinosaur?

Pokejedservo 12-12-2014 10:05 PM

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Sadly one could only wonder, its been said that the reason why Canadian VA talent has been used a lot less recently is because that due to our current economy the Canadian Looney is worth more than the American Dollar. (After all back in the 90's one of the known reasons why Canadian Voice Talent was used so often was because due to the currency exchange rates in various cases its cheaper to use Canadian VA studios then. Nowadays though it seems to be the other way around though.) But to be fair Vancouver still at least has the likes of Inuyasha Final Act and Black Lagoon Roberta's Blood Trail.

Domayv 12-12-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokejedservo (Post 86050)
But to be fair Vancouver still at least has the likes of Inuyasha Final Act and Black Lagoon Roberta's Blood Trail.

Sadly, though, the most recent "Entirely New" (i.e. an entirely new series and not one continuing from a pre-existing series) dub from Vancouver is Nana, which was from 2009. On the bright side, though, the USD/CAD ratio is slowly but surely starting to recover to pre-recession levels (so far, 1 USD=1.158 CAD), so there may be a silver lining in this situation. Maybe we could see something like the next King of Fighters game and Persona 5 dubbed there (it would provide a breath of fresh air for the latter from the usual LA-based PCB Productions fare, especially considering that Atlus is now backed by Sega and thus they should have a sufficient enough budget to outsource to Canada, given the sizable-enough fanbase of the Persona series).

Pokejedservo 12-12-2014 10:41 PM

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So the Currency Exchange rage between American and Canadian curency is starting to get a bit more equal huh? Interesting... Who knows maybe Canadian Voice Talent might have a chance in making a comeback sometime this decade. Though I am not sure if the Persona franchise might want to use Canadian VA talent but King of Fighters is a slight possibility (after all there is at least some history there what with Viz's dubs of the Fatal Fury Anime back in the 90s.)

Domayv 12-12-2014 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokejedservo (Post 86055)
So the Currency Exchange rage between American and Canadian curency is starting to get a bit more equal huh? Interesting... Who knows maybe Canadian Voice Talent might have a chance in making a comeback sometime this decade.

It depends on whether Aniplex and Viz would reconsider having their dubs outsourced to LA unions (given the expensiveness and difficulty of having a dub union-contracted nowadays since the recession) and have their dubs done at Ocean as an alternative, given that it would be cheaper and has less hassles to deal with than LA unions though more expensive than LA non-union (it probably most likely work for shows that would get the Toonami treatment or virtually any dub that would be directed by either Kristi Reed or Alex Von David due to their casting patterns paralleling what you would see in a union dub).

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Originally Posted by Pokejedservo (Post 86055)
Though I am not sure if the Persona franchise might want to use Canadian VA talent but King of Fighters is a slight possibility (after all there is at least some history there what with Viz's dubs of the Fatal Fury Anime back in the 90s.)

Well, the Persona series has always been dubbed by PCB Productions, but with Atlus starting anew since April, I always thought they could introduce some variety into the series' cast by having Ocean dub Persona 5. Also, if Atlus is going to dub Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker, it's probably best that they use the Devil Survivor 2: The Animation cast (which is Houston-based) for consistency's sake (it's not impossible for any dub other than from Sentai to be done at Seraphim Digital since Warner Bros and Sony have used the studio before, and during the ADV days, some J-games were dubbed over there, such as Unlimited Saga).

For King of Fighters and, by extent, the SNK fighting games, whilst its possible to reprise the Fatal Fury characters from the anime dub casts since a good portion of them are still active to this day (such as Matt Hill, Janyse Jaud, Paul Dobson, Mark Hildreth and Lisa Ann Beley), several of them need to be recast due to their English VAs either being no longer active in the voiceover business or dead (such as Terry Bogard since his Vancouver English VA, Peter Wilds is now an interior designer). Personally, I could see Brad Swaile voice Kyo Kusanagi (and his clones) if KOF gets dubbed in Vancouver.

Skullgrin140 12-13-2014 06:36 AM

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Somehow in all this I'm sure with DBZ Kai's Ocean dub they might be making something of a comeback, however when you look at how they have been doing recently things are looking kind of slim for them what with the whole Currency issue they have had. This is weird since back a couple of years ago Ocean were on top of the world in the dubbing of Anime, now it's Funimation who is taking their share which is a shame.

I hope some how Vancouver have some way of getting back ontop of things because it feels kind of unfair for them to be left behind in dubbing Anime.

Domayv 12-13-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullgrin140 (Post 86071)
Somehow in all this I'm sure with DBZ Kai's Ocean dub they might be making something of a comeback, however when you look at how they have been doing recently things are looking kind of slim for them what with the whole Currency issue they have had.

The currency issue is starting to improve; just look at the chart and compare its current state to the pre-recession years and you'll notice how things are starting to look for the better.

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Originally Posted by Skullgrin140 (Post 86071)
This is weird since back a couple of years ago Ocean were on top of the world in the dubbing of Anime, now it's Funimation who is taking their share which is a shame.

Actually, it's ADV that supplanted Ocean in terms of having the Lion's share of dubbing since the early to mid 2000s (and later Funimation would supplant ADV following that company's closure by 2009), and LA came to take most of the scraps ever since the advent of Bang Zoom! Entertainment (at that time, Animaze was the premiere LA dubbing studio for anime, but it was too expensive compared to having it done in by Ocean in Vancouver. Once Bang Zoom! debuted its first dub with Rurouni Kenshin in 2000, many anime companies began to go to that company since it was substantially cheaper to have dubs done there than at Animaze).

Skullgrin140 12-14-2014 02:59 PM

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If the Canadian dollar has some how managed to star improving then I'm sure somehow after the Ocean dub of DBZ Kai then Vancouver will get back into the dubbing scene of Anime again. Somehow that way they can have more money to produce better top quality dubs again.

Domayv 12-15-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullgrin140 (Post 86186)
If the Canadian dollar has some how managed to star improving then I'm sure somehow after the Ocean dub of DBZ Kai then Vancouver will get back into the dubbing scene of Anime again. Somehow that way they can have more money to produce better top quality dubs again.

For the DBZ Kai Ocean dub to succeed, it has to air on a Canadian channel. The only channel that ever aired DBZ was YTV, though if their going to succeed by airing it unedited and uncut like what US Toonami is doing with Funimation's dub, then that channel won't be the choice due to the absence of the Bionix block since 2010. Maybe CN Canada could launch a Toonami block to air DBZ Kai Ocean dub unedited and uncut, given that they have Adult Swim Canada.

Gaddes 12-15-2014 09:40 PM

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I've often wondered this myself. It's a shame. Ocean produced some solid dubs back in the day. I'm totally ok with NYAV taking over as the Gundam dub studio though.

Domayv 12-16-2014 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaddes (Post 86289)
I've often wondered this myself. It's a shame. Ocean produced some solid dubs back in the day. I'm totally ok with NYAV taking over as the Gundam dub studio though.

Maybe NYAV and Ocean can both be Gundam dub studios: NYAV can handle the older Gundam titles in the Universal Century continuity by re-dubbing the 1979 Mobile Suit Gundam series (plus the compilation films), Char's Counterattack and Zeta Gundam (plus the compilation films), and dubbing ZZ Gundam, since all of them share the same characters as Gundam Unicorn and Gundam: The Origin (Gundam F91 (which was dubbed in California), Victory Gundam and the new Reconquista in G, though lying in the Universal Century Timeline, all have entirely new characters); whilst Ocean can dub newer titles such as Reconquista in G, Gundam AGE and Gundam Build Fighters, and even possibly dub older titles (if NYAV doesn't dub them) such as After War Gundam X (considering how everyone here in the states wants it to be released here even to this day) and Turn A Gundam.

Gaddes 12-16-2014 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Domayv (Post 86297)
Maybe NYAV and Ocean can both be Gundam dub studios: NYAV can handle the older Gundam titles in the Universal Century continuity by re-dubbing the 1979 Mobile Suit Gundam series (plus the compilation films), Char's Counterattack and Zeta Gundam (plus the compilation films), and dubbing ZZ Gundam, since all of them share the same characters as Gundam Unicorn and Gundam: The Origin (Gundam F91 (which was dubbed in California), Victory Gundam and the new Reconquista in G, though lying in the Universal Century Timeline, all have entirely new characters); whilst Ocean can dub newer titles such as Reconquista in G, Gundam AGE and Gundam Build Fighters, and even possibly dub older titles (if NYAV doesn't dub them) such as After War Gundam X (considering how everyone here in the states wants it to be released here even to this day) and Turn A Gundam.

Would be an interesting idea for sure. I'm kinda curious to why Sunrise and Bandai dropped Ocean as the defacto offical dub studio for Gundam.

Autovolt 12-17-2014 06:34 AM

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It's sad how almost no dubbing companies are willing to go up north and give the Vancouver talent some more work. Hopefully someday we'll start seeing more happen again. I mean does FUNimation have to dub almost all of the anime they licensed, why can't they outsource a few here and there? I'm glad they let Ocean dub Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail but they really should consider doing this more often.

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Originally Posted by Gaddes (Post 86289)
I've often wondered this myself. It's a shame. Ocean produced some solid dubs back in the day. I'm totally ok with NYAV taking over as the Gundam dub studio though.

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Originally Posted by Domayv (Post 86297)
Maybe NYAV and Ocean can both be Gundam dub studios: NYAV can handle the older Gundam titles in the Universal Century continuity by re-dubbing the 1979 Mobile Suit Gundam series (plus the compilation films), Char's Counterattack and Zeta Gundam (plus the compilation films), and dubbing ZZ Gundam, since all of them share the same characters as Gundam Unicorn and Gundam: The Origin (Gundam F91 (which was dubbed in California), Victory Gundam and the new Reconquista in G, though lying in the Universal Century Timeline, all have entirely new characters); whilst Ocean can dub newer titles such as Reconquista in G, Gundam AGE and Gundam Build Fighters, and even possibly dub older titles (if NYAV doesn't dub them) such as After War Gundam X (considering how everyone here in the states wants it to be released here even to this day) and Turn A Gundam.

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Originally Posted by Gaddes (Post 86300)
Would be an interesting idea for sure. I'm kinda curious to why Sunrise and Bandai dropped Ocean as the defacto offical dub studio for Gundam.

I like this idea a lot.

Skullgrin140 12-17-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 86345)
It's sad how almost no dubbing companies are willing to go up north and give the Vancouver talent some more work. Hopefully someday we'll start seeing more happen again. I mean does FUNimation have to dub almost all of the anime they licensed, why can't they outsource a few here and there? I'm glad they let Ocean dub Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail but they really should consider doing this more often.

That's kind of how I feel about the current state of things, I'm mixed towards Funimation's Approach to dubbing Anime and it seems unfair for them to take up whatever comes there way. However since they are a business they do make alot of money rather well, but that doesn't mean they have to have 99.99999999999999999% of any Anime that comes overseas.

Vancouver still has some of the finest veterans and new talents in Anime dubbing over the past 2 decades and it felt like a breath of fresh air when Black Lagoon & Death Note where done by them for a change instead of anyone from LA or Funimation. In reality some of their dubs have their ups and downs but their finest works stick out and make their talent known rather widely, but Ocean need to make a grand comeback and maybe give Anime voice acting a rather wider range than having them just go straight to Funimation and reuse the same actors over and over again.

Domayv 12-18-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 86345)
It's sad how almost no dubbing companies are willing to go up north and give the Vancouver talent some more work. Hopefully someday we'll start seeing more happen again. I mean does FUNimation have to dub almost all of the anime they licensed, why can't they outsource a few here and there? I'm glad they let Ocean dub Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail but they really should consider doing this more often.

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Originally Posted by Skullgrin140 (Post 86355)
That's kind of how I feel about the current state of things, I'm mixed towards Funimation's Approach to dubbing Anime and it seems unfair for them to take up whatever comes there way. However since they are a business they do make alot of money rather well, but that doesn't mean they have to have 99.99999999999999999% of any Anime that comes overseas.

Vancouver still has some of the finest veterans and new talents in Anime dubbing over the past 2 decades and it felt like a breath of fresh air when Black Lagoon & Death Note where done by them for a change instead of anyone from LA or Funimation. In reality some of their dubs have their ups and downs but their finest works stick out and make their talent known rather widely, but Ocean need to make a grand comeback and maybe give Anime voice acting a rather wider range than having them just go straight to Funimation and reuse the same actors over and over again.

The issue is that Funimation's both a licensing company and a studio, plus that Texas is a right to work state, thus offering cheaper prices, so Funi's not going to be convinced that they can try to outsource some titles outside of Dallas, even if the titles in question already has a pre-existing cast (such as Last Exile and Fafner). The same can be said with Sentai (technically, they don't in-house dub it, they have it done by Seraphim Digital, which other companies have used the studio before). The companies that are going to be the first to outsource to Ocean in this decade are Viz and Aniplex. Sentai's probably gonna be the last one to start outsourcing to Ocean due to their tight schedule and lower budget compared to Funi, Viz and Aniplex (though it's quickly improving), though if they could outsource several series to LA and NYAV (even the ones that are fairly niche here like K-On!; and even doing a better job than Funimation), they could do the same with outsourcing to Vancouver. In fact, Sentai might even have an advantage over Funi when it comes with the home video sales needed to break even since it requires a almost half as many copies for Sentai titles to sell (both local and outsourced dubs) to do so compared to Funimation titles.

Gaddes 12-18-2014 05:30 PM

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It's sad how almost no dubbing companies are willing to go up north and give the Vancouver talent some more work. Hopefully someday we'll start seeing more happen again. I mean does FUNimation have to dub almost all of the anime they licensed, why can't they outsource a few here and there? I'm glad they let Ocean dub Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail but they really should consider doing this more often.
I'm really glad Funi handed Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood off to Ocean. Can't imagine anyone else doing it honestly. Funi tends to outsource only if there is high fan demand i.e Black Lagoon and Bayonetta.

Domayv 01-28-2015 01:57 PM

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It's been a while for this thread but AnimeNewsNetwork explains why there aren't many Vancouver dubs nowadays in this article.

On the bright side though, the USD is now worth 1.25 CAD (meaning 20+% cheaper than the loonie) and has surpassed 2005-2007 levels.

Gaddes 01-28-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Domayv (Post 88254)
It's been a while for this thread but AnimeNewsNetwork explains why there aren't many Vancouver dubs nowadays in this article.

On the bright side though, the USD is now worth 1.25 CAD (meaning 20+% cheaper than the loonie) and has surpassed 2005-2007 levels.

Pretty good explanation actually. A Vancouver anime dub is gonna be unlikely though save the odd video game via Capcom Vancouver.

Autovolt 02-04-2015 05:45 AM

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Their is the upcoming anime coming this spring called Rin-ne that was created by Rumiko Takahashi (creator of Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2) and it's being licensed by Viz.

It got me thinking if there was any anime that HAS to be dubbed at Ocean Group Studios it's this one. I mean almost all of the anime based on Takahashi's work had been dubbed in Vancouver before, it's only fair they should do so here.

Heck Kappei Yamaguchi and Satsuki Yukino are going to be in it, so naturally I think Richard Ian Cox and Kira Tozer should totally dub their character.

Domayv 02-04-2015 01:07 PM

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@Autovolt: I haven't heard of anyone licensing Rin-Ne, and even if Viz licenses it, it seems pretty likely that it will be dubbed in LA, taking into account Viz's recent dubbing practices by always having virtually everything dubbed in LA on the grounds that it's "cheaper" than Vancouver. It kind of made sense during the recession years, but nowadays, Vancouver is actually cheaper than LA (almost reaching Texas prices) taking into account the USD/CAD ratio, and its unions are nowhere as as stringent as LA's (which could explain why Brad Swaile appeared in Street Fighter X Tekken, which was non-union). With all of those taken into account, why haven't Viz and AoA and the J-game companies bothered to outsource some dubs to Ocean.

Gaddes 02-08-2015 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 88555)
Their is the upcoming anime coming this spring called Rin-ne that was created by Rumiko Takahashi (creator of Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2) and it's being licensed by Viz.

It got me thinking if there was any anime that HAS to be dubbed at Ocean Group Studios it's this one. I mean almost all of the anime based on Takahashi's work had been dubbed in Vancouver before, it's only fair they should do so here.

Heck Kappei Yamaguchi and Satsuki Yukino are going to be in it, so naturally I think Richard Ian Cox and Kira Tozer should totally dub their character.

If I recall, that might just be the manga they are licensing, although, I wouldn't rule out the anime either.

CDwaver 02-16-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 88555)
Their is the upcoming anime coming this spring called Rin-ne that was created by Rumiko Takahashi (creator of Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2) and it's being licensed by Viz.

It got me thinking if there was any anime that HAS to be dubbed at Ocean Group Studios it's this one. I mean almost all of the anime based on Takahashi's work had been dubbed in Vancouver before, it's only fair they should do so here.

Heck Kappei Yamaguchi and Satsuki Yukino are going to be in it, so naturally I think Richard Ian Cox and Kira Tozer should totally dub their character.

Its almost like a tradition at this point to have Ian Cox in a Rumiko show dub, lol

NCZ 02-17-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Domayv (Post 89107)
Atlus's Persona 5 would be far more likely to have its dub done in Vancouver.

In the sense that a .01% chance is more likely than a .000001% chance? :laughing:

Domayv 02-17-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaddes (Post 89110)
If Capcom Canada (formaly Blue Castle Games) does another game, then they might get a video game project, but as it stands now, Vancouver is strictly Hasbro properties.

Even for Capcom Vancouver's newest game (Dead Rising 3), it had a mixture of LA and Vancouver talent, and most likely the next game from them will have all of its voices done in LA (much like Dead Rising 1). Also for cartoons done in Vancouver, there's more than just Hasbro (which are only Littlest Pet Shop and MLP:FiM): there's the various properties from DHX Media such as Max Steel 2013, and the Marvel Knights Animation motion comics (I really wish Saban would step up to the Vancouver voiceover game and have some of their properties done there, considering that Saban's previous incarnation outsourced several of their shows to Vancouver)

Autovolt 04-11-2015 07:06 AM

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Well Rin-ne was picked up by Sentai Filmworks. :banghead:

Ocean's never getting their comeback are they?

I wish Sentai would actually outsource this to Ocean just this once. It's so frustrating that Sentai is claiming every second anime that comes out, whatever hasn't already been done by FUNimation.

Most of Sentai's dub efforts are usually average or mediocre most of the time, with the rare great dub like Angel Beats! If it was Ocean doing this, I Know I can usually expect something good.

Like is it really that difficult to give Ocean some work every and now then? I recently found out that almost all of the dubs in Vancouver were unionized which might explain a lot actually, why they haven't gotten much as of late. I mean if we rarely gets Unionized dubs in the states as it is, why would they want to outsource to another country?

I mean FUNi and Sentai have many licenses, it'd be refreshing to outsource to lesser used studios. Even two or three dubs a year from Vancouver would be fine with me, just nothing at the moment is the problem. I'm sorry that i'm ranting but it's just so mad right now. :grumpy:

Is their a way to convince Sentai, FUNi and Viz to outsource to Ocean Studios as slim as it may be?

Pokejedservo 04-11-2015 08:33 AM

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Sentai? Highly and I mean highly doubtful. FUNi? Maybe, but they would only do it if Ocean had any history with the franchise like Black Lagoon. (Unlike Sentai, FUNi can be genuinely willing to use Voice Talent outside of Texas but thats usually when the franchise was done with other companies and even then its not an absolute guarentee.) Though they could always use special guest voice talent like Scott McNeil in which they occasionallly still do such as how Scott was in the recent One Piece movie.

Now Viz on the other hand is your best bet here. Keep in mind before the mid-2000s when they became Viz Media, Ocean use to be their go-to studio throughout the 90s. In fact it wasn't until the mid-2000s that Viz started to focus more on Californian Voice Talent and even then they still do use Ocean occasionally such as Death Note and Inuyasha Final Act. But still if there was any company that could give OCean their comeback when it comes to anime it would be Viz. (Besides they might be tempted to go back to Vancouver a bit more often instead of California due to how Viz has been having problems doing non-union dubs recently. Namely certain voice actors such as David Lodge resigning from their work on certain roles due to pay disputes.)

tmnisaac 04-11-2015 11:07 AM

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Ocean Productions has become Ocean Media.


Ocean Media did the English dub of B-Damon FireBlast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ1b9DunBN0



I think that will help you with the question.


:D

NCZ 04-11-2015 11:09 AM

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I'm more impressed that B-Daman is apparently still going on.

tmnisaac 04-11-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NCZ (Post 91667)
I'm more impressed that B-Daman is apparently still going on.

The Dub was released in North America through a new APP for iPhones and iPads for the 9 episodes in English.

Autovolt 04-11-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tmnisaac (Post 91666)
Ocean Productions has become Ocean Media.


Ocean Media did the English dub of B-Damon FireBlast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ1b9DunBN0



I think that will help you with the question.


:D

Brad Swaile's in a new dub. That's awesome. He hasn't done anything since voicing Rock in Black Lagoon.

I also like seeing Alex Zahara, Dean Redman and Brenna O'Brien in that cast list too. Some of the real good underrated and underused VA's Ocean has had at their disposal.

I used to watch B-Daman back in the day, I might have to check this out.

To quote Drift in Age of Extinction..."At Last There is Still Hope After All!" But it would be nice if Ocean Media gets their hands on some properties that aren't toyetic like the anime they used to do. Still I'll take anything at this point.

tmnisaac 04-11-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91671)
Brad Swaile's in a new dub. That's awesome. He hasn't done anything since voicing Rock in Black Lagoon.

I also like seeing Alex Zahara, Dean Redman and Brenna O'Brien in that cast list too. Some of the real good underrated and underused VA's Ocean has had at their disposal.

I used to watch B-Daman back in the day, I might have to check this out.

To quote Drift in Age of Extinction..."At Last There is Still Hope After All!" But it would be nice if Ocean Media gets their hands on some properties that aren't toyetic like the anime they used to do. Still I'll take anything at this point.



You are welcome man, and also Nicole Oliver and Alec Willows are in this dub too. :D

Domayv 04-11-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91658)
Most of Sentai's dub efforts are usually average or mediocre most of the time, with the rare great dub like Angel Beats! If it was Ocean doing this, I Know I can usually expect something good.

You can take a loot at this dream cast of Angel Beats and Another to see what it would look like if it was dubbed in Vancouver, LA and Dallas.

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91658)
Like is it really that difficult to give Ocean some work every and now then? I recently found out that almost all of the dubs in Vancouver were unionized which might explain a lot actually, why they haven't gotten much as of late. I mean if we rarely gets Unionized dubs in the states as it is, why would they want to outsource to another country?

It's not really the unions over there that are preventing Vancouver from getting more dubs, but rather the USD/CAD ratio not working in the USD's favor (though this is no longer the case as of now), and the belief since the anime recession that Vancouver voiceovers weren't as good as they were before. Also to mention, the BBCP (the main acting union of Vancouver) is prettylenient compared to LA's SAG-AFTRA, which could well explain why we saw Brad Swaile in Street Fighter X Tekken, which is a non-union dub.

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91658)
I mean FUNi and Sentai have many licenses, it'd be refreshing to outsource to lesser used studios.

Well, the issue is that Funi and Sentai use local talent (Dallas and Houston, respectively), and both of them are located in Texas, which is a right-to-work state, thus bypassing many of the union-related issues. Even then, however, I'm already starting to see cracks and they'll become large enough to make those two realize that they should start outsourcing some dubs, like Funi's broadcast dubs eating up much of the schedule at their in-house dubbing facilities, and Sentai's speed dubbing since last year and their middling-to-mediocre on average dubs.

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91658)
Is their a way to convince Sentai, FUNi and Viz to outsource to Ocean Studios as slim as it may be?

Maybe if their dub of DBZ Kai succeeds, which could only happen if it's and airs unedited and uncut (it could pretty much happen only if Toonami launches in Canada since YTV swore off anime entirely), or the fact that the USD/CAD ratio has balanced back to normal, thus making it cheaper than LA (for Viz and Anipex) and almost as cheap as Texas (for Funi and Sentai).

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Originally Posted by Autovolt (Post 91671)
Brad Swaile's in a new dub. That's awesome. He hasn't done anything since voicing Rock in Black Lagoon.

Don't forget, Brad has mentioned at Ohayocon 2015 that he's working on another new anime series.

Gaddes 04-11-2015 08:59 PM

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Well Rin-ne was picked up by Sentai Filmworks.
Legit surprised Viz let that slip away.

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Ocean's never getting their comeback are they?
Sadly, probably not. One of Ocean key benefits of being cheaper is no longer really a factor. They are slightly cheaper than L.A and almost as cheap as Texas. I know they still do their fair share of toy based anime shows though.

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Most of Sentai's dub efforts are usually average or mediocre most of the time, with the rare great dub like Angel Beats! If it was Ocean doing this, I Know I can usually expect something good.
Far kinder to Sentai dubs that I am good sir lol

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Is their a way to convince Sentai, FUNi and Viz to outsource to Ocean Studios as slim as it may be?
Best bet would be Viz, but even that is a toss up. Viz rarely get's any anime these days, and when they do it's a safe bet an L.A studio will get it.

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Brad Swaile's in a new dub. That's awesome. He hasn't done anything since voicing Rock in Black Lagoon.
Now that I'm curious about.

Domayv 04-11-2015 10:32 PM

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Sadly, probably not. One of Ocean key benefits of being cheaper is no longer really a factor. They are slightly cheaper than L.A and almost as cheap as Texas. I know they still do their fair share of toy based anime shows though.

That's exactly what I said.

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Far kinder to Sentai dubs that I am good sir lol

Guess you must really hate Sentai dubs or something.

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Best bet would be Viz, but even that is a toss up. Viz rarely get's any anime these days, and when they do it's a safe bet an L.A studio will get it.

The worst part is that, as you said, Vancouver's actually cheaper than LA, so normally that would make it a pull factor for dubs (especially true in the case of companies based in California), but most would rather stick with LA since they consider it to be more trustworthy than Vancouver.

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Now that I'm curious about.

You can check out his Ohayocon 2015 interview for more info.

Gaddes 04-12-2015 01:21 AM

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Guess you must really hate Sentai dubs or something.
I don't hate them per se, but they generally tend to be pretty mediocre with a few decent performances. Legend of the Dark King I thought was ok enough, mainly because Andrew Love as Raoh.

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The worst part is that, as you said, Vancouver's actually cheaper than LA, so normally that would make it a pull factor for dubs (especially true in the case of companies based in California), but most would rather stick with LA since they consider it to be more trustworthy than Vancouver.
I know back in the late 90's and early they we indeed a good deal cheaper than California based studios, but they seem to be in that middle ground of cheaper than L.A, but not as cheap as Texas, so it probably leads to a lot a lot of studio just paying a little bit more and using L.A. They never really quiet recovered when Bandai went under. At least they do have some Pre-lay to fall back on though.

Domayv 04-12-2015 02:11 AM

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I don't hate them per se, but they generally tend to be pretty mediocre with a few decent performances. Legend of the Dark King I thought was ok enough, mainly because Andrew Love as Raoh.

Thats pretty much what Autovolt said: Sentai dubs on average are anywhere from middling to mediocre with an occasional good dub.

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I know back in the late 90's and early they we indeed a good deal cheaper than California based studios, but they seem to be in that middle ground of cheaper than L.A, but not as cheap as Texas, so it probably leads to a lot a lot of studio just paying a little bit more and using L.A. They never really quiet recovered when Bandai went under. At least they do have some Pre-lay to fall back on though.

The highest the USD/CAD ratio went was 1.6 CAD per USD in January 2002. Also in the early 1990s the ratio was at a similar situation as now (1.1 to 1.2 CAD per USD).

This website has the info about the historical USD/CAD exchange rate: http://fxtop.com/en/historical-excha...15&btnOK=Go%21

Autovolt 04-12-2015 04:23 AM

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Don't forget, Brad has mentioned at Ohayocon 2015 that he's working on another new anime series.

I have a feeling what he's talking about is the new B-Daman anime. I've noticed he mentioned that he's voiced a few characters in this anime, and he's voiced a few characters in FireBlast.

Still nice to know he's still in the game, just hasn't been cast as often. Hopefully he'll get a role in a DHX media production soon.

VoteForSirAtlas 04-12-2015 05:22 AM

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Well Rin-ne was picked up by Sentai Filmworks. :banghead:

Ocean's never getting their comeback are they?

I wish Sentai would actually outsource this to Ocean just this once. It's so frustrating that Sentai is claiming every second anime that comes out, whatever hasn't already been done by FUNimation.

Most of Sentai's dub efforts are usually average or mediocre most of the time, with the rare great dub like Angel Beats! If it was Ocean doing this, I Know I can usually expect something good.

Like is it really that difficult to give Ocean some work every and now then? I recently found out that almost all of the dubs in Vancouver were unionized which might explain a lot actually, why they haven't gotten much as of late. I mean if we rarely gets Unionized dubs in the states as it is, why would they want to outsource to another country?

I mean FUNi and Sentai have many licenses, it'd be refreshing to outsource to lesser used studios. Even two or three dubs a year from Vancouver would be fine with me, just nothing at the moment is the problem. I'm sorry that i'm ranting but it's just so mad right now. :grumpy:

Is their a way to convince Sentai, FUNi and Viz to outsource to Ocean Studios as slim as it may be?

My wish for Sentai Filmworks, FUNimation Entertainment and 4K Media Inc. is to outsource their properties to Vancouver-based dubbing studios and Los Angeles-based Western Animation and Anime dubbing studios. Too bad 4Kids Entertainment hadn't outsource its properties to them.
According to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...HaveBeen/Anime, if the whole Dragon Ball franchise remained in Vancouver, English-language dubs of One Piece, Fairy Tail, Black Butler and other such properties would be dubbed here.

What do you think?

Autovolt 04-12-2015 07:20 AM

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My wish for Sentai Filmworks, FUNimation Entertainment and 4K Media Inc. is to outsource their properties to Vancouver-based dubbing studios and Los Angeles-based Western Animation and Anime dubbing studios. Too bad 4Kids Entertainment hadn't outsource its properties to them.
According to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...HaveBeen/Anime, if the whole Dragon Ball franchise remained in Vancouver, English-language dubs of One Piece, Fairy Tail, Black Butler and other such properties would be dubbed here.

What do you think?

Yeah I noticed that on TV Tropes, who knows where all of the series FUNimation licensed have been recorded at or what company would have the license?

That being said I'm glad 4Kids never outsourced to Ocean because then they would have ended up with the stigma the talent pool got even though New York's talent pool is great IMO.

also I watched the first episode of BDaman FireBlast...the show is ok I guess but the voice work was pretty nice for the most part. Reece Thompson is easily the major standout in the dub. Alex Zahara was also very good. Everyone else was alright for the most part.

Domayv 04-12-2015 11:21 AM

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=That being said I'm glad 4Kids never outsourced to Ocean because then they would have ended up with the stigma the talent pool got even though New York's talent pool is great IMO.

The stigma of 4Kids is probably one of the major reasons why numerous New York VAs such as Sam Riegel, Megan Hollingshead, Liam O'Brien, Lucien Dodge, Carrie Keranen, Marc Diraison, Cassandra Lee Morris, and recently Veronica Taylor, have moved over to LA.

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My wish for Sentai Filmworks, FUNimation Entertainment and 4K Media Inc. is to outsource their properties to Vancouver-based dubbing studios and Los Angeles-based Western Animation and Anime dubbing studios. Too bad 4Kids Entertainment hadn't outsource its properties to them.

I don't think 4K Media's going to license titles outside the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise.

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I have a feeling what he's talking about is the new B-Daman anime. I've noticed he mentioned that he's voiced a few characters in this anime, and he's voiced a few characters in FireBlast.

It could be that but who knows since he couldn't mention the title due to NDA. He mentioned that this new anime series will premiere towards the end of 2015 (the dub of FireBlade premiered in November 2014), so it may or may not be FireBlast.

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Still nice to know he's still in the game, just hasn't been cast as often. Hopefully he'll get a role in a DHX media production soon.

That is always an opportunity for him, though I think the only DHX Media productions he could appear ATM in are MLP:FiM and Max Steel 2013 (if it gets renewed for a third season)


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