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@IAMTHEVASTUNIVERSE I assume you meant to reply to my comment below but accidentally posted this as a new comment. Granted, these are all opinions and you are entitled to yours I just think using the terminology 'vastly superior' is a bit dramatic and unfair :)

@OptimusSolo I wouldn't call the phrase I used dramatic at all I was just giving my honest opinion like I always do in the voice compares section.8)

@IAMTHEVASTUNIVERSE I disagree with you on that one. He is hardly 'vastly superior'

@IAMTHEVASTUNIVERSE Indeed. :-D

@Pgirts Couldn't agree with you more!!!

@Pgirts Don't forget Megatron

@pete Oh but of course!

@Pgirts and MonStar

@Pgirts That's not exactly much of an achievement. :-P

@ConfusedPhantom Finally someone that agrees with me :)

@JTfromSaskatoon Couldn't agree more JT!

@TFG1Mike Also, I will update the sound clips once that happens :)

@Ninjaman15 While I completely agree that up to this point I like the remake better....what some people don't understand is that 80s was all about over the top and cheeseball takes - that doesnt make it bad just makes it hard for people to stomach who have gotten used to newer trends etc. People now expect continuity and while I love a series with continuity you have to appreciate the other side of the coin when stacked up to shows like them.

Once, again I agree that the new series is better, the overall voice cast is better etc etc I just hate it when people write off 80s stuff as cheesy commercials that only people viewing through nostalgic glasses can appreciate. 80s was the best decade of animation ever and the only one that comes close to matching it is the 60s!

@OptimusSolo Yeah, you must be right, but then again, I knew how the 80s went off. I actually enjoyed the original ThunderCats from soul, to the point of having a maximum amount of flopping (I did this as a child, pretty much for my Autism, but that's not the point). You also made me realize another thing: I expect continuity, but not to the point where stupid crap like Naruto or Sonic X get overboard... At least a tiny bit of it is what I want, not as a whole.

And of course, how do you think Captain N and G Gundam were like? Over-the-top cheese fests that some would hate or actually enjoy... Captain N is out of that area because of those pathetic changes made and how it makes most of us play more video games, so only G Gundam is the one thing you can tolerate with cheesiness... And maybe the original ThunderCats, if you're gonna be sentimental, anyway.

One more thing: even if opinions are opinions, you're really unable to label the past as "the best" when it comes to facts because, well, it's like this for me: music was great in the past and I prefer that to nowadays where you have these cheap artists like Rebecca Black... But I'm not referring to all music from the past.

@Ninjaman15 what do you mean 'when it comes to facts'?? I will explain why the 80s is the best further in the forums if you want with data to support it - I don't want to clog this page to much further.

As far as my other point I just think continuity makes such a difference that you can only compare continuity based shows to each other and then non-continuity based to each other. Transformers G1 was basically non-continuity for the most part as were most of the other action shows of the 80s (he-man, g.i. joe, m.a.s.k., thundercats, silverhawks) so its fair to compare those to each other as well

@OptimusSolo Exactly. You should more likely compare continuity-based things to each other, and non-continuity based stuff to each other as well... Because if you scramble it up, then it really would be a big problem (not that logic really matters, anyway)

And if you do explain how the 80s is the best, it just goes to show that opinions are taking place as we speak... And that's common since saying EVERYTHING as a fact is pretty immature, honestly. Also, if the whole world had interest in the same things altogether, then we'd be dull, boring, and half-hearted machines... Therefore, I think really all of us like different things, but in terms of how we act, being treated equally is the way I see it.

@Ninjaman15 I don't disagree with anything you have said. It is fun to debate our opinions and try to explain why we have them and believe in them so passionately though :)

@SpiderDreamer I obviously disagree. To me each line of Hammond's is more convincing whereas Robin makes him sound to 'young' and 'limber'.

@OptimusSolo My main problem with a lot of these comments is that people are only comparing the VOICES and not the ACTING. Hammond is probably one of the better actors on the old show, I'll grant that, but he still sounds pretty cartoony.

Robin, by contrast, is an excellent actor who can certainly do menace, and I find it all too appropriate that he makes Mumm-Ra sound younger and more limber, if only relatively.

@SpiderDreamer Good points for sure and I agree with you. That is why some of the future ones you will see me lean towards the newer voices. I would say that Kenney is a way better character actor than Will though. Really the only good character actors in the old show were Kenney, Hammond and Hyman. What do you think?

@OptimusSolo Eh, I thought most of them had pretty solid voices, but their acting left a lot to be desired.

@SpiderDreamer That strikes me - Hyman especially was one of the most esteemed actors of his generation!

@OptimusSolo Hurm... somehow I doubt he was more esteemed than the likes of Frank Welker, Michael Bell, Jack Angel, Corey Burton, etc.

@OptimusSolo OK, I did a little more research on Hyman, and you're right, he was quite the esteemed character actor. I'm willing to blame his just-OK performance (as I call it) in Thundercats on poor voice direction. The same goes for Larry Kenney; after all, look at how good he was in the new series with the great Andrea Romano doing the voice direction!

@SpiderDreamer

Re: your second comment; Well said, agreed 100%! :-)

@partymonster411 To each their own...I will like the new voices for some of the characters but this one I easily prefer the classic voice on.

@OptimusSolo i prefer all the new voices

@partymonster411 Well that seems like you aren't approaching it with a very open mind. There is no way that every new voice is superior to the old ones. Earl Hammond, Earl Hyman and Larry Kenney especially are pretty freaking hard to beat!

@OptimusSolo maybe i have the powerful force called opinions

@partymonster411 You are missing my point - It seems you are looking at things subjectively rather than objectively. If you were to say 'I like the new series better' or 'i like the designs or storyline of the new series better' that is a very valid opinion and I would have no problem with it.

But to make a blanket statement that 'i like all the old/new voices' makes it seem like you are just saying that because you like that series better and you have not actually analyzed each of the voices.

I find it hard to believe that any one person who looks at it objectively would honestly say EVERY old voice or EVERY new voice is better.

@OptimusSolo or maybe i find Robin more scary or menacing, Will more young, Matthew more snarky, and Kevin....well its KMR. and Cheetara more sexy. The kittens are mutual i like the new ones as much as the old one

@partymonster411 Thats fine - I find Earl Hammond way scarier than Robin but I have no problem with you liking Robin only with you liking every 'new' version. I stick with what I said before. My biggest issue is you liking KMR over Earl Hyman...I am one of the biggest KMR fans there is but that just blows my mind! (that and liking anyone better than Larry Kenney, but lets leave those discussions for when I do those compares ;) )

@partymonster411 Also, sometimes I try to separate and judge based on the vocal performance and not the character design and what was dictated to them by the powers that be. It wasn't Will's choice to make the character younger etc. So, I try to separate that when I judge the overall performances. Although, I can see why it would play a part in your decision.

@OptimusSolo fine, and btw episode 4's Panthro's 1 liner gave me spine shivers

@partymonster411 Well it should have because it was epic how he came in and everything --- But Earl Hyman has one of the greatest voices I have ever heard in my entire life. Granted he was just using his natural voice but he just has one of those voices that is way to epic to sweep under a rug here!