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Comparision of the voice over actors who have been the voice of Shredder with sound clips and images.
Franchise: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

At long last we have the main antagonist in the Turtles franchise, Shredder (also known as Oroku Saki). Even though over the years he has played both large and small parts in the various Turtles incarnations, no one can argue against the fact that Shredder is the most iconic and recognizable of the Turtles villains.

For the first seven seasons, from 1987 to 1994 James Avery, from Fresh Prince fame, voiced Shredder. In total, he played the role in 125 episodes.

After the seventh season, Bill Martin took over the role, voicing the bad guy in 12 episodes from 1994 to 1996.

Three different voice actors provided Shredders voice on a fill-in basis during the original Turtles series. Jim Cummings voiced him in 9 episodes between 1990 and 1993, Townsend Coleman (the voice of Michelangelo in the series) voiced Shredder three times in 1993, and Dorian Harewood filled in for the role in four episodes between 1987 and 1989.

In the two live-action Turtles films from the 90s even though Shredder was portrayed physically by James Saito, Francois Chau, and Kevin Nash, from Professional Wrestling fame, his voice was actually supplied in both films by David McCharen.

The next time we saw Shredder was once again in live-action form on the short-lived series, Ninja Turtles: Next Mutation. His actual actor in that series was Patrick Pon while Doug Parker provided the voice.

Next up, Shredder would return to animation in the hit 2003 series where he was voiced by Scottie Ray. Staying in animation form, Shredder was portrayed in three different styles in the fantastic made for TV Movie, Turtles Forever.

First, we had Shredder reappear as the 1987 form of Shredder, which was voiced by Load Williams.

Then we had the original Mirage Comic style Shredder who was voiced by David Wills.

Lastly, we had Scottie Ray reprise his performance as Shredder from the 2003 series.

Finally, Shredder briefly appeared in the 2007 TMNT Video Game although at this time we cannot verify who provided his voice in this brief appearance.
Created by OptimusSolo on May 6 2010
Special thanks to UltimateCharm, Music Meister for additional sound clips.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) (1987)
ShredderDorian Harewood
Dorian Harewood
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) (1987)
ShredderTownsend Coleman
Townsend Coleman
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) (1987)
ShredderJim Cummings
Jim Cummings
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) (1987)
ShredderJames Avery
James Avery
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987) (1987)
ShredderBill Martin
Bill Martin
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
ShredderDavid McCharen
David McCharen
Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation (1997)
ShredderDoug Parker
Doug Parker
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003) (2003)
ShredderScottie Ray
Scottie Ray
TMNT (2007)
ShredderKwasi Songui
Kwasi Songui
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles Forever (2009)
Shredder 2003Scottie Ray
Scottie Ray
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles Forever (2009)
Shredder 1987Load Williams
Load Williams
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles Forever (2009)
Shredder MirageDavid Wills
David Wills
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012) (2012)
ShredderKevin Michael Richardson
Kevin Michael Richardson
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows (2013)
ShredderMatthew Yang King
Matthew Yang King


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said at 8:18 PM on Thu Apr 7 2016
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I find it super cool that Kevin will voice two different versions of Shredder now
said at 9:37 AM on Fri Apr 8 2016
@HienFan ... Oh man, KMR as 80's Shredder?

I dunno, it would've been nice to get Cummings or Harewood back, but I guess KMR is more cost efficient.
said at 9:46 AM on Fri Apr 8 2016
@Ghosty404 I thought John Dimaggio would be a closer match personally/
said at 11:34 AM on Fri Apr 8 2016
@Zillah Yeah, I would have loved it if DiMaggio was chosen (especially since he sounds a lot like Bill Martin at times).

Boy, if only Bill had lived a little bit longer. :(

Still, KMR is a pretty nice choice.
said at 4:35 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
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Strongest are James Avery, Bill Murray, David McCharen, and Scottie Ray looking hard at this again.

Weakest are easily Load Williams and Doug Parker.
said at 6:31 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
What's your opinion on KMR?
said at 6:44 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
KMR is kind of middle of the pack for me: he's menacing, but like BlazeHeatnix said below, I feel like he uses this voice a bit too often.

It's not bad at all, and I get why those in charge of TMNT 2012's direction told KMR to voice him that way, but I feel like the ones I listed in the stronger category gave Shredder more of a unique portrayal.
said at 6:49 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
Makes sense. That's kinda why I like Scottie the most, he just seems so unique and downright frightening. With KMR I get more Darth Vader and less Shredder.
said at 6:59 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
@Dr.Who I'm guessing you meant Bill Martin when you said Bill Murray?
said at 7:00 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
Yeah, meant Bill Martin, sorry.
said at 12:23 PM on Sun Mar 27 2016
Rethink time:
1. Scottie Ray
2. KMR
3. David McCharen
4. Matthew Yang King
5. James Avery
6. Kwasi Songui
7. David Willis
8. Jim Cummings
9. Dorian Harewood
10. Bill Martin
11. Load Williams
12. Townsend Coleman
13. Doug Parker
said at 5:47 PM on Mon Mar 7 2016
1. Scottie (First few seasons)
2. Scottie (Turtles Forever)
3. Scottie (Games)
4. David M
5. Kevin/Scottie(Tengu Shredder)
6. Matthew
7. James (RIP)
8. Kwasi
9. David W
10. Jim/Dorian/Bill (RIP)
11. Load
12. Doug
said at 12:13 PM on Tue Mar 8 2016
Scottie in later seasons and as the Cyber Shredder goes in between Mr Avery and Mr Songui
said at 8:13 AM on Mon Feb 22 2016
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Oh, and I love David McCharen the best. His take is absolutely chilling and his Asian accent is surprisingly good. I love James Avery and Bill Martin's take on it too, but that's more for a comedic 80s Shredder.

Scottie Ray fits too, but not as a human Oroku Saki. It fits because he's an evil alien.
said at 8:04 PM on Fri Feb 19 2016
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Bill Martin is my favorite. His take is pretty underrated. He managed to balance menace and humor quite well, plus, he had great chemistry with Pat Fraley's Krang and he sounded pretty badass (I never bluff!!!!). I wish they used him more in the original cartoon, 'cause he really left a big impression on me.

David McCharen is pretty badass too. His delivery is pretty menacing and the accent is a pretty nice touch.

James Avery is also pretty boss. He's totally childish and bombastic, and his performance is absolutely endearing. A classic performance.

Jim Cummings sounds pretty close to Avery, but the raspiness makes him come out a little bit forced. Still, his attempt at filling in for Avery (even though it's not as successful as Bill Martin's attempt) is commendable.

Dorian Harewood also does a great job filling in for Avery. He sounds a little bit lower than Avery, but he still sounds bombastic.

Townsend Coleman, Doug Parker, Scottie Ray, David Wills, Kevin Michael Richardson and Matthew Yang King also deliver great performances for Shredder, whether they are totally bombastic and over-the-top (Coleman, Parker, Wills) or totally threatening and foreboding (Ray, Richardson, King).

Kwasi Songui is also good, but he doesn't leave much of an impression. Still, I would like it if be reprised the role someday.

Load Williams is the weakest. He sounds too high and his delivery is pretty stiff at times.
said at 9:30 AM on Fri Feb 19 2016
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Good lord, I am so tired of Kevin Michael Richardson. I love his voice and it's very recognizable, but does he really have to voice every villain ever? His voice for Shredder sounds like every other villain voice he's ever done.
Shaun Ince
said at 3:03 PM on Sun Feb 21 2016
@BlazeHeatnix You can partially blame the directors for that. They hire him based off of his deep suave voice. Which is why it's recycled so often for most of the villians he's voiced. It's a trap that almost every voice actor falls into when they get pigeonholed/typecast. KMR has range(Detective Chimp being one of those characters that doesn't use the typical run of the mill sound that he's known for) It's just that he has very little oppotunities to do so.
said at 4:08 PM on Wed Feb 17 2016
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And my favorite is...

Bill Martin.

I love how he made him a legit threat while adding everything we love about James Avery. James is 2nd, as well as his other fill ins besides Load Williams. RIP James and Bill :(

3rd is Scottie Ray, such a fantastically evil and over the top performance but main it really took a toll on him, you can hear his voice crack and sound forced but still a really great effort.

David McHaren is 4th, so far the only one to an accent besides Matthew who is sadly drowned in music. He had such great menacing delivery too.

KMR is 5th. I like the Darth Vader approach but other than he's supposed to be in TMNT not Star Wars. I'd like him to voice Vader with that voice and what really gets to me is the fact he can definitely pull off an accent but the voice direction or whatever caused this issue ruined that potential.

Others I enjoyed are David Willis, Doug Parker, and Kwasi Somgui.

Load Williams is the weakest.
said at 4:05 PM on Fri Feb 12 2016
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I like Scottie Ray a lot, but I'm going with James Avery as well, he just seemed to give the character so much life as well as humor. RIP to him, he was truly memorable.
said at 3:50 PM on Fri Feb 12 2016
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Rest in Peace James Avery: you were the first and best Shredder. I love the way he said THOSE BLASTED TURTLES.
said at 2:56 PM on Sat Nov 7 2015
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Top 5:

1. Scottie Ray
2. James Avery
3. Kevin Michael Richardson
4. Jim Cummings
5. David McCharen
said at 1:31 PM on Sat Nov 7 2015
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The best two imo are James Avery and Kevin Michael Richardson. I like Avery's take because he can be cunning while also comical or hammy when he's bickering with Krang or throwing a tantrum. KMR is great because when you need a menacing/booming voice he delivers in spades.

That being said Jim Cummings, Matthew Yang King, Scottie Ray, and David McCharen were pretty good
said at 9:14 PM on Sat Oct 17 2015
my vote for the shredder.
1. Kevin Micheal Richardson
2. Scottie Ray
3. James Avery/Jim Cummings
4. Matthew Yang King
said at 11:43 AM on Tue Aug 25 2015
Why isn't Tohoru Masamune on here yet? Yeah, he also plays him in-person, but his voice sounds different when he's wearing the armor.

I think this site should change the rules a little: If a character is wearing a suit/costume that A: conceals their face/body, and B: Distorts/alters their voice, it should count. It's no different than motion-capture.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:55 AM on Tue Aug 25 2015
@Bauglir100 Voice acting is a form of acting where only the actor's voice is heard and their physical body is not present in the finished product. If Tohoru Masamune plays him in live-action and is physically present in the movie then by definition it isn't a VO role, and vocal effects being applied don't change that.

Motion capture is different and justifiable. That involves the creation of a CGI or otherwise intangible character. The actor themself is not physically in the production so it can be considered voice acting and is relevant to the scope of what this site intends to cover.
said at 1:24 PM on Tue Aug 25 2015
@NCZ But you never even see Tohoru's face when he's in the Shredder's armor, and he was added in at the last minute (that was meant to be Bill Fichtner as Eric Sacks in the suit and it was animated with him in mind, but Tohoru was cast at the last minute).
said at 9:00 PM on Sun Apr 26 2015
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Scottie Ray, Matthew Yang King, Kevin Michael Richardson and David McCharen are easily in the same league here.

James Avery May have been great fun but he was more for the laughs than for the screams.
said at 7:07 PM on Sat Apr 18 2015
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1) Scottie Ray
2) Kevin Michael Richardson
3) David McCharen
4) James Avery
5) Jim Cummings
6) Bill Martin
7) Townsend Coleman
8) Dorian Harewood
9) Load Williams
10) David Wills
11) Doug Parker
said at 6:08 PM on Sat Apr 18 2015
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Kevin Michael Richardson is easily my favorite performance here, since I prefer a more serious and darker portrayal of the character. He sounds the wisest, and his deep, booming voice just suits him so well.

That being said, James Avery is hands down the best comedic portrayal of Shredder, Mathew Yang King is a close second to KMR.
said at 10:17 AM on Wed Mar 25 2015
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For a more comedic Shredder I'd definitely say James Avery, with Bill and Jim as the best stand-ins.

For a more serious Shredder, I'd say KMR with David McCharen and Matthew Yang King right behind him.

Scottie Ray is good... but I don't think he's nearly as good as other people seem to think he is. He does sound threatening and give a good performance, but... something about the voice doesn't really sit with me as well as some of the others... I guess it just sounds so... forced, to me, and he tends to go pretty over the top. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad performance at all, but it's just not my favorite here either.
said at 9:19 AM on Sun Mar 15 2015
I wonder, when the new TMNT clips from the latest film get added, will that include Shredder?
said at 7:54 AM on Mon Mar 2 2015
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For Comedic Shredder, I say James Avery hands down (R.I.P)

For Serious Shredder, it's a tie between DavidMcCharen and Kevin Michael Richardson for me
said at 4:45 PM on Fri Jan 16 2015
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Scottie Ray, definitely. Such a cool voice.
said at 5:46 PM on Wed Dec 3 2014
I'm getting used to KMR as Shredder!! :)
said at 10:49 PM on Sun Oct 19 2014
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All of them are good... but I'm surprised that Matthew Yang King, David McCharen and even KMR don't have more votes.
said at 7:32 PM on Sun Oct 19 2014
Kevin, Scottie, Kwasi and David Mcharen are my op 4. in that order.
said at 12:32 AM on Tue Jul 29 2014
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1 James Avery
2 Jim Cummings
3 Kevin Michael Richardson
4 Scottie Ray
5 Load Williams
6 David Wills
7 Bill Martin
8 Townsend Coleman
9 Matthew Yang King
10 Doug Parker
11 Dorian Harewood
12 David McCharen
13 Unknown
said at 1:05 PM on Fri Jul 4 2014
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1) James Avery
2) David McCharen
3) Scottie Ray
4) Matthew Yang King
5) Kevin Michael Richardson
6) Jim Cummings
7) Townsend Coleman
8) Bill Martin
9) UVA
10) Load Williams
11) Dorian Harewood
12) David Wills
13) Doug Parker
said at 6:42 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
Even though I never watched the show,it easy to see why the late James Avery`s performance is so well known,he embodies everything associated with classic cartoon villains ,it`s hammy,over the top,boastful, but has the capacity to be threatening,and overall it`s really entertaining to listen to.

As far as his numerous imitations go Townsend Coleman,followed by the always versatile Jim Cummings, comes the closest to the original in my opinion,it baffels me why they didn`t just use the former all the time when James was unavailable, considering he was the voice of Michelangelo.

Bill Martin sounds to gravelly and aged while Dorian Harewood sounds more like Kevin M Richardson(ironic) doing a comical Shredder.

Load Williams with out a doubt the worst impression, he doesn't even try.

As a serious Shredder I find Kevin Michael Richardson the best,his deep,powerfull voice has quite a presence and tells you that this is a villain you should ran away from,and his delivery is decently menacing.

Matthew Yang King does it rather well,besides being the only VA on this compare that's the same race as the character,he has a fair amount of arrogance to is voice,and manages to sound sinister,though his delivery could use a little work.

Scottie Ray, doesn't really leave much of an impression on me,he sounds the most generic in my opinion,unlike Matthew and Kevin he doesn't have a lot of strength or confidence in his delivery,and comes of like a generic guy acting sinister.
said at 9:02 PM on Wed Apr 2 2014
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Torn between Scottie Ray and Matthew Yang King... really digging Matthew Yang King...
said at 3:02 PM on Thu Mar 6 2014
Getting torn between Scottie Ray and KMR again, maybe when Shredder returns later this season that will change.
said at 7:31 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
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R.I.P James Avery, you were a great Shredder.
said at 4:13 PM on Fri May 9 2014
@jonhardwick No, he was THE Shredder! :'(
The Doctor
said at 12:19 AM on Sun Dec 29 2013
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James Avery is perfect comedic Shedder and Scottie Ray is perfect menacing Shedder.
said at 7:26 PM on Thu Dec 5 2013
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David for sure! I mean, he is one of the reasons why the TMNT movie is my favorite interpretation of the turtles. He's threatening, and badass. Also, I think that theme song he had helped a lot too.

Scottie Ray is nice. I like him, but there's just something off about him. I'm just not a fan.

Matthew Yang King is also a good choice. Unlike the other Shredders, he has an accent, which I like a lot. Plus his delivery was decent. If he gets more work as Shredder, I'd enjoy that.

Kevin Michael Richardson is great too. He has almost a deep Darth Vader-esque thing going on with him. I like it.

James Avery is classic, and he just makes perfect for classic Shredder. Also...PILLOWY MOUNDS OF MASHED POTATOES!
said at 5:06 PM on Sun Jan 12 2014
@metalsonic655 Unlike the others. I'd say Matthew is the first authentic time that Shredder is Asian which to me, makes the fact that William Fitchner is up for the newest role laughable. He's never actually been Asian until out of the shadows.
said at 2:24 AM on Thu Nov 14 2013
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At his panel at Bak-Anime this year, Sam Riegel said he auditioned for the 2012 TMNT series. Specifically, he auditioned for Shredder.

If that's not irony, I don't know what is.
said at 7:26 PM on Mon Nov 18 2013
@MilanTheVillain01 If that was the case then we'd have a case of THREE past TMNT actors working on the 2012 series but not voicing the character(s) they voiced before. (The other two being Rob Paulsen and Nolan North)
said at 8:06 PM on Mon Nov 18 2013
@SpongeBat1 Well once you go Raph you never go back
said at 1:34 PM on Sun Oct 20 2013
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I prefer Scottie Ray.
said at 12:53 PM on Mon Oct 7 2013
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1. David McCharen - It's just the perfect Shredder, IMHO.
2. Scottie Ray - Epic and intimidating as the Utron Shredder. Makes him sound appropriately pure evil.
3. Kevin Michael Richardson - A very deep, scary sounding voice and great acting gives this Shredder real presence.
4. Matthew Yang King - A very authentic voice for the Shredder, but could've afforded to go deeper.
5. James Avery - The classic Shredder voice. Mixes humor and menace perfectly.
6. Bill Martin, Jim Cummings, and Dorian Harewood - The good James Avery impressions.
7. Towsend Coleman and Load Williams - The weak James Avery impressions.
8. UVA - Okay, yet ultimately forgettable.
9. David Willis - Fits a one-off villain, but is nothing spectacular.
10. Doug Parker - Just plain unfitting.
said at 8:04 PM on Wed Sep 4 2013
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Matthew Yang King is alright. The music in that game is annoying.
said at 6:52 PM on Wed Sep 4 2013
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King surprised me big time. I didn't know he had that range (used to his character in GI Joe Renegades). Still sticking with my favs though.
said at 6:38 PM on Wed Sep 4 2013
After listening to Matthew's take I'm changing my vote to him. He really surprised me, when I first learned that he voiced Shredder in that game I figured that he just rehashed his Illidian Stormrage voice. But he did pretty good.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 5:25 PM on Wed Sep 4 2013
Matthew King is surprisingly good. His deep and almost growly voice really fits and the cherry on top is the accent is nicely done.
He might actually be my new favorite.
said at 10:29 PM on Tue Sep 3 2013
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Wow, Jim Cummings was REALLY good at matching James Avery. Giving it to Kevin Michael Richardson.
said at 9:13 PM on Fri Aug 9 2013
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Gonna change to KMR. His performance has really grown on me. It bothered it was just his standard voice at first but I like the Darth Vader feel he gives him especially in the season finale.
said at 10:18 AM on Wed Aug 14 2013
@pete I feel the same way. In fact, this may be my favorite version of Shredder. He has the seriousness I love from the 03 series, but the classic design of the 80's. And whenever he pops up to fight, it's always an event.
said at 12:42 PM on Wed Aug 14 2013
@VctrBnsn It makes me want to see KMR voice Darth Vader at some point. He has the threatening of Vader, Doesn't do unneccessary puns or one liners like Utrom or Demon Shredder occasionally did.
said at 7:55 PM on Fri Oct 4 2013
@pete - Well KMR voiced a Darth Vader knock off in Fairly OddParents so that's about as close as you're gonna get
said at 9:56 PM on Fri Oct 4 2013
@HyperVoiceActing He was on Clone Wars as Jabba. That's closer. Also Greg Weisman is writing Rebels set during the Galactic Civil War and since he likes to use actors he worked with before which of course includes KMR that's another step closer.
said at 5:02 PM on Sat Oct 5 2013
@pete - That really depends on if he DOES let KMR voice Vader or not.

Assuming he doesn't do what LucasArts does and get Chad Vader to voice him
said at 7:59 PM on Sun Oct 6 2013
@HyperVoiceActing He's not exactly a fan of reprisals o it's more likely.
said at 8:44 PM on Wed Jul 17 2013
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1. James Avery/Scottie Ray- I just can't pick one both are very good. Avery has that raspy deepness to his voice which works very well and very funny, and Ray has that menacing almost Vader like sound to him.

2. Kevin Michael Richardson/David McCharen- Both have a fantastic deep, raspy, and evil sound to them which works extremely well.

3. Bill Martin- Bill is a top notch impression of James and sounds very very close to how he sounds and is just as funny.

4. UVA- he has the great malicious sound and has a much more robotic filter sound to him than the other shredders have, but he does have the evil sound down.

5. Jim Cummings- He is somewhat close to how James sounds and he does have the raspiness (I mean it is Jim) but it isn't one of Jims best performances.

6. Dorian Harewood/Townsend Coleman/Load Williams- the three kind of blend together for me. They all don't really sound that great but they all at least try to sound like James they just don't have the same energy James, Bill, or Jim had.

7. David Willis- he sounds moderately decent in the role, the only problem he has almost nothing to go off of so I can't really say much.

8. Doug Parker- I don't know what happened hear, but he just doesn't sound that good at all to me. He sounds too high pitched, and sounds closer to how a version of Starscream (which ironically he played in the past.) would sound more than it would the Shredder.
said at 9:16 PM on Fri Aug 9 2013
@skeletonking1234 I think KMR sounds like Darth Vader more.
said at 6:27 PM on Sun Jul 7 2013
David McCharen. Everything is working with that performance -- the accent, the raspiness, the focus, the sinister tone that disguises itself as masterful wisdom, and the mask-covering all combine to make a sound that is distinctly "Shredder". That voice wouldn't fit any other character in existence, and I can't say the same for most of the other performances that ... I'm sorry, are really "generic bad guy".
said at 1:37 AM on Thu Jul 4 2013
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# 1 - Scottie Ray.
# 2 - Kevin Michael Richardson.
# 3 - David McCharen.
# 4 - David Wills.
# 5 - Load Williams.
# 6 - James Avery.
# 7 - Bill Martin.
# 8 - Jim Cummings.
# 9 - Towsend Coleman.
# 10 - Dorian Harwood.
Dark Kuja
said at 11:52 AM on Sat Jun 22 2013
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I have to go with Richardson. He makes Shredder sound focused, vengeful, and completely intolerant of failure. He has no time for theatrics when there's vengeance to wreak.
said at 3:12 PM on Wed Jun 5 2013
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@TheVengeanceKnight That would be yhe coolest cating choice for Shredder
said at 9:19 AM on Thu May 30 2013
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You know who'd make an awesome Shredder? Mark Hamill.
said at 4:24 AM on Sun May 5 2013
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Wow, the 80s series had to go through FIVE different actors for Shredder...
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 10:23 AM on Mon May 6 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight what's your point?
said at 10:25 AM on Mon May 6 2013

That they either can't make up their mind about who to use or they couldn't get proper scheduling.

OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 10:37 AM on Mon May 6 2013
Yea, it's one of those mysteries. I never did the research to find out what the reasoning was behind it. I should because it would be interesting to know.
said at 10:57 AM on Tue Sep 3 2013
The show ran for ten seasons. A long time for nearly any one actor. The only real recast they did was to replace Avery with Martin starting in Season 8. The trick is that they clearly had to work around Avery's schedule, which involved a bunch of fill-in work. Harewood pitched in for a bit in Season 3, Cummings in Season 5, and Coleman in Season 7 (finishing the season up for the departing Avery). During all those fill-ins, it was still essentially Avery's role, which he continued to do up to that seventh season.
said at 5:00 AM on Fri Mar 15 2013
Kevin Michael Richardson, Scottie Ray and James Avery for me.
said at 2:25 PM on Fri Mar 1 2013
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If Kevin Michael Richardson had a slight accent he would be my favorite. But I still like him. I know it's his standard voice, but I'm just glad I can take him seriously. Scottie Ray is my favorite performance, with James Avery third simply for nostalgia.
said at 9:18 PM on Thu Mar 7 2013
@VctrBnsn Yeah lack of Japanese accent was disappointing to me at first but I love the Darth Vader feel he gives Shredder.
said at 11:44 PM on Thu Mar 7 2013
@pete I loved 80's Turtles, but even as a kid I could never really take Shredder seriously as a villain. I just sorta laughed at him. Kids watching this Shredder can probably see him more as a genuine threat.
said at 4:40 PM on Mon Jul 1 2013
@VctrBnsn I will say I saw him more of a threat in the earlier episodes, but as many fans of that series will admit, quality drained as the series went on, much like 90's Spider-Man.
said at 10:34 PM on Thu Feb 14 2013
Kevin Michael Richardson sounds really menacing. He definitely gets my vote, but Scottie Ray is great too.
said at 11:26 PM on Sat Dec 15 2012
The unknown voice actor sounds like Khary Payton to me.
said at 12:40 AM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@coolgeek176 Not that you mention it I do hear that a bit with a Scottie Ray inspired voice.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 9:30 PM on Sat Dec 15 2012
I've been waiting for Kevin to be added.
For the 90's Shredder I'd obviously have to pick James Avery who really nailed the menacing aide of as Shredder but could easily go silly and comical. It would work for more serious shows. As for others who tries to impersonate James, they all did great and sounded almost spot on as James and really got the menacing and comical side Shredder except for Load who sounds generic.
David was pretty good but the way he says some words bothers me, I guess it's him doing an accent but hearing 'fadda' instead of father ruins any menacing you could have.
I'm sorry but Doug is the weakest, for one he sounds too young and two he sounds forced and not serious at all. The line he says was good but he delivers it badly.

David is okay, I would need to hear more though.

Mr Unknown does an okay Scottie impression, not great but not terrible.

Now for Scottie Ray, I have mixed feelings. One I like the voice, it sounds menacing and raspy and really feels like someone you should be afraid of. My problem, he goes over the top a lot. I guess the show it's self is kinda over the top and Scottie didnt do that that over the top but he did do it several times. I still like it but should have been more subtle.

Now with Kevin I still have mixed feelings. For one he plays what I always wanted from Shredder, a non-comical or over the top Shredder. He brings a power and command to Shredder without yelling and that REALLY makes the character interesting yet scary. My problem, Kevin should have done something different with his voice. It's not that his voice doesn't fit, it just could have been better if he added something more. A bit more raspy or a slight accent could have helped.

In the end my three favorites are James, Scottie, and Kevin but in the end I'll give this to Kevin due to his subtle performance.
said at 12:43 AM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@Music Meister Earky on I was disappointed that Kevin didn't use a Japanese accent and wanted someone like Keone Young to do him but after the episode where he fought the Turtles I liked it as it Darth Vaderish.
said at 12:44 AM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@Music Meister early*

If you listen closely Ray's voice cracks a bit especially in earlier episodes.
said at 12:45 AM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@Music Meister Oh and 80's not 90's lol.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 1:20 AM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@pete I do like the Darth Vader feel but I wish it was less of 'standard Kevin voice', it's not a bad voice though but I wish it was more unquie
said at 10:20 PM on Sun Dec 16 2012
@Music Meister I know what you mean. As mentioned above I was expecting a Japanese accent. I waited for the show to see the outcome. I was disappointed at first but grew into the voice later on. It s a bit hearing that voice from someone of Japanese origin but it's pretty good for a kids show.
said at 12:06 AM on Mon Dec 17 2012
@Music Meister

"[...] James Avery who really nailed the menacing aide of as Shredder"


Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 10:00 PM on Mon Dec 17 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight No need to be rude
said at 10:08 PM on Mon Dec 17 2012
@Music Meister I was just laughing at the fact that 80s Shredder was deemed "menacing". No personal malice intended. :-)
said at 9:23 AM on Sat Dec 15 2012
Kevin Michael Richardson is good, but I still prefer Scottie Ray.
said at 12:29 AM on Sat Dec 15 2012
I like Kevin's Darth Vader like feel he has in some episodes but prefer Scottie Ray and the 2003 series as whole so sticking with him.
said at 1:39 PM on Wed Nov 28 2012
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James Avery, Scottie Ray, and Kevin Michael Richardson.
said at 4:38 PM on Tue Nov 20 2012
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I'm gonna go with Scottie Ray for Shredder.
said at 4:28 AM on Tue Nov 20 2012
Sweet, Scottie's in the lead. :-D
said at 8:24 PM on Sat Sep 15 2012
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Scottie Ray is the most intimidating Shredder to me! :) Plus, David McCharen did pretty good for the Live Action films. James Avery's is okay as well.
said at 2:43 AM on Wed Sep 12 2012
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I think John DiMaggio would make a awesome Shredder.
said at 12:45 AM on Sat Nov 3 2012
@Mr.Fennoy93 Can;t think of what voice he would use. Keone Young would be awesome as well. I wish they casted in the 2012 series instead of KMR as gain he was unoriginal. He could have done a Japanese accent but nope he used his regular voice again...
said at 9:59 PM on Sat Sep 1 2012
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James Avery, Jim Cummings, and David Wills for me.
said at 10:02 PM on Sat Jul 6 2013
As usual, KMR has a lot of power in his voice, but it's pretty generic, as he's used it (or a variation of) for most of his other character roles.

In the end, I'd say that he and James Avery are my favorites, but it is quite close.
said at 11:17 PM on Sat Jul 21 2012
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James Avery is the #1 voice of Shredder in my book. Despite not sounding close to Avery's voice at all, Dorian Harewood did not do a bad job of being the " substitute " voice for Shredder in Avery's absence.
said at 3:03 PM on Wed Jul 11 2012
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James Avery has my vote. His voice is just sooooo classic, though Scottie Ray is very, very close second.
said at 1:30 AM on Tue Jun 5 2012
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Ah, this takes me back.XD Comical though it was and nostalgic though it may be, I'm gonna go with James Avery for Shedder. That said, Scottie Ray, Jim Cummings, Jim Cummings, David McCharen, and the Unknown Voice Actor were good, too.
said at 8:19 PM on Mon Apr 23 2012
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James Avery was good, especially for a cheesy 80's show, but I have to give it to Scottie Ray.
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 2:46 AM on Tue Apr 24 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight I do have to admit that I hate how everyone writes off 80s shows to be cheesy or tries to say that like its a bad thing. 80s was one of the best decades in history when it comes to cartoons!
said at 2:58 AM on Tue Apr 24 2012
@OptimusSolo Relatively cheesy, then.
said at 2:18 AM on Sun Jun 24 2012
@OptimusSolo Well in this case that's now Shredder or the TMNT franchise as a whole is meant to be. It's supposed to be serious and dark like the 2003 version was. That said I think most 80's shows were typical Saturday morning cartoons but some were a bi and actually had somewhat of a story instead of just giving the episodes typical stories and the villains typical world domination schemes.
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 2:42 AM on Sun Jun 24 2012
@pete hardly any of that makes any sense but ok
said at 12:10 AM on Tue Jun 26 2012
@OptimusSolo In my 3rd sentence I don't even remember what I said. "Some were a bi"? I might have meant to say a bit different. Either way in the Turtles case they were never aimed at children they were meant to be dark and serious which is why fans(by fans I don't mean nostalgic fanboys) prefer the 2003 series over the 1987 series.
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 1:11 AM on Tue Jun 26 2012
@pete Again, that completely depends on which version you are talking about - Just because the comics were darker does not mean there were never aimed at children because trust me from a marketing stand point they very much were aimed at children for a long time. And why do you feel the need to try to take a dig at fans of the 1987 show? Just because you prefer the 2003 series does not make them any less of fans.
said at 2:23 AM on Tue Jun 26 2012
@OptimusSolo I didn't say that. By nostalgic fanboys I Mean people who complain the 2003 series sucks just because they grew up with the 1987 series. The franchise ma have been aimed more toward children animation and toy wise but the original comics weren't. I'm not taking a jab at you. I'm giving a reason why the 1987 series is passed off as too cheesy compared to TMNT 2003. I like both as most fans do but I wanted you to get why the 1987 is passed off as as"cheesy 80's show" by TMNT fans.
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 2:06 AM on Fri Jun 29 2012
@pete mission failed
said at 11:25 PM on Mon Mar 26 2012
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While I like & respect both performances from James Avery & Scottie Ray, I overall pick David McCharen because his performance of Shredder is what I remember fondly most as to what's the first thing I think of when I hear the word "shredder".
said at 1:22 AM on Fri Feb 10 2012
well as much as i like Avery i gotta go with scottie because he was the most dangerous sounding of the group...and thats what villains are ment to be
said at 4:34 AM on Tue Nov 20 2012

Comparing Scottie Ray to James Avery is like comparing Mark Hamill to Brent Spiner. ;-)
said at 5:08 AM on Tue Nov 20 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're not then that's...not really a good comparison to make. Mainly because in this case one was clearly more serious while the other one was trying to be more comedic whereas both Mark Hamil and Brent Spiner were both going for serious performances.

Granted, I like Scottie Ray more as well, but that's not really the best comparison to make in regards to this.
said at 5:28 AM on Tue Nov 20 2012
@Metabad I'm talking in terms of the quality of the performances, not the tone.
said at 11:53 PM on Fri Feb 15 2013
i like brent as joker D: ((well not as much as mark. but still)) and well i do like the quality of both preformances in THIS VC. but the soild reason i choice Scottie over Avery is while im entertained by Avery's some times sinister but then usually goofy portayl.. Scottie kinda scares the crap out of me with how evil he is. which is PERFECT for a deadly ninja. and thats saying something since that cartoon was partly written and all acted by 4KIDS XD
said at 10:53 PM on Thu Jul 14 2011
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Scottie Ray and David McCharen are the best serious Shredders for me. As far as comedic performances go, James Avery and Jim Cummings both take the cake. Though they're all good in their own way...except for Doug Parker, which is a shame because I normally like his voicework. The Unknown Voice Actor is rather impressive too, hope someone figures out who he is.
said at 7:50 PM on Mon Apr 4 2011
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This is a really difficult most perform really well as the character

I call a tie Between Cummings and Avery

I also really like Willis,Ray and McCharen
said at 12:04 AM on Fri Apr 15 2011
@Truesonic The unknown one's pretty impressive then Ray then Mcharen Avery then Cummings
said at 10:53 PM on Sat Apr 16 2011

I thought he was pretty good too :) Most of them did a great job just some more than others
said at 11:32 PM on Fri Mar 4 2011
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Scottie Ray is the best he's so mencaing and one of the best villiains ever. James Avery is a good campy Shredder and my third favorite on here. The unknown is is my second favorite and does a good job at Shreder he's clearly based on Ray's and makes a good replacement.
said at 12:09 AM on Wed Jul 18 2012
@pete Actally I'll say my 3rd is Mcharen, then Avery, then Cummings, then Harewood.
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 3:57 PM on Sun May 30 2010
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After listening to them all again I would put the top four as

1. McCharen
2. Avery
3. Cummings
4. Ray
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 12:28 AM on Fri May 7 2010
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hahaha, nice one @penguintruth
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 9:08 PM on Thu May 6 2010
Also if anyone can provide me with a pic of the Shredder from the 2007 game I will put that sound clip up as well...
OptimusSolo (Admin)
said at 8:51 PM on Thu May 6 2010
Thanks to Cypo for the help with many of the audio clips!
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