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Comparision of the voice over actors who have been the voice of Muska with sound clips and images.


Created by Pokejedservo on Fri Mar 19 2010, 53 Comments, Add Comment
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Laputa: The Castle in the Sky (1996)
MuskaJeff Winkless
Jeff Winkless
Laputa: The Castle in the Sky (1996)
MuskaMark Hamill
Mark Hamill

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skeletonking1234
said at 3:55 PM on Wed Apr 16 2014
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Jeffs performance while he does sound a little monotone in the role, he does still nail the authoritative and cold side of Muska well I think. I'm not saying it's a fantastic performance, and yes I do think he should've put a little more emotion into it, but I do think it is a decent performance overall. 6.5/10

though with Mark...yes he is the much better performance. Mark adds this great sinister sound to this character and makes the extremely ruthless dialogue given to Muska all the more despicable. It's one of Marks most underrated performances to be honest and it's obvious on why it is such a good performance. 8.5/10
DreamMaster08X (Moderator)
said at 8:31 PM on Fri Mar 7 2014
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Um.... .... ....I think Muska (as performed by Winkless) needs to go to the doctor and check to see if he's clinically still alive.

Definitely going for Hamill on this one.
JTurner
said at 8:33 AM on Sat Mar 8 2014
@DreamMaster08X LOL!!!!!!
Metabad
said at 6:41 AM on Sun Mar 9 2014
@DreamMaster08X Ugh, good lord...Winkless actually died back in 2006, it's fine that you don't like the performance and all, but even so, at least try to show some respect and avoid making tasteless jokes like this.
DreamMaster08X (Moderator)
said at 8:23 AM on Sun Mar 9 2014
@Metabad I never made a remark about Winkless himself, however you may read the comment. I'm sure he's a good/great actor, and heck (I still give him respect regardless, as I do every other actor), it's definitely not THE worst/one of the worst performances I've heard to date.... but I'm still not a fan of it (which is certainly due to the voice directing of the dub, since nearly every performance just sounds unconvincing to me, IMHO).

Also, his death doesn't really change my opinion. It'd make a difference if he died VERY shortly after recording, like with Orson Welles with the 1986 Transformers movie, or Mako with the 2007 TMNT movie. But this was nearly 20 years after the dub, so there's really not much of an effect there for me.

Sorry if I unintentionally insulted anyone out there (the key word being 'unintentionally'), and again, I still have regards and respect for the actor. But yeah.
JTurner
said at 9:38 PM on Sun Mar 9 2014
@DreamMaster08X, the 80s dub was rushed out the door, and even Carl Macek wasn't a fan of it. That explains why it sounds the way it does.
HienFan
said at 3:38 AM on Mon Mar 3 2014
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Jeff-ZZZZZZzzzzzz..... Sorry sir but you sound bored
JTurner
said at 9:52 AM on Mon Mar 3 2014
@HienFan Yes, when it comes to this character there is literally no contest. Hamill was natural from the start. I don't know what Jeff was going for, but it didn't work.
Silence
said at 12:48 PM on Mon Nov 25 2013
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Mark Hamill gives the better performance and is far more entertaining to listen to! Jeff Winkless sounds bored and his delivery sounds off.
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 11:57 AM on Fri Jul 19 2013
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Jeff Winkless is walking a fine line between being cold and reserved, and monotone. Mark Hamill is walking a fine line between being enjoyably menacing, and overacting. To me, they both are flawed. One is guilty of underacting and the other is guilty of overacting, but neither of them sound like they're doing anything that renders their performances completely ineffective.

They both could do perfect justice to the character and I like what they're both going for, but they're clearly missing the mark by a little bit. If they each had just a little sharper direction, they would be perfect.

As for who I'm voting for, I'm going with Mark Hamill. I would still love to check out this older dub for the movie, I know people have expressed general dislike for it here, but from what I've heard it sounds pretty solid to me.
JTurner
said at 2:33 PM on Fri Jul 19 2013
@PsychicVoiceSpy I personally went with Hamill because to me he really sounded like he was really enjoying himself in the role. Sure, he does overact in places, but that's all right, considering his character goes crazy at the end. He was easily much better than Winkless, who I felt sounded completely lifeless and didn't have any genuine menace or emotion for the role at all. As I mentioned, his performance for me got even worse at the ending.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 9:32 AM on Sat Sep 28 2013
@JTurner Yeah I'm sorry, but just listening to Jeff's voice sounds like I'm hearing either a robot or someone in a bad old anime dub. (Just listen to him saying "The fact is Laputa possessedenough scientificknowledge tobeableto float in the sky! Itwasonceakingdom that governedandthreatened the entire world!" or the INCREDIBLY MENACING way he says "ButI must advise you that that boy's fate rests in your hands.") If I saw the visuals that accompany it, it'd likely be even worse. Mark might get to overacting a little, but at least that's ACTING.
Aussieroth
said at 1:16 AM on Thu Jun 20 2013
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Mark, no competition XD Sorry Jeff
LJ7117
said at 1:17 PM on Thu Jun 6 2013
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Mark Hamill. No doubt. Jeff honestly sounds like an emotionless robot. Hamill not only makes Muska sound menacing (like he should), but you can tell he's having so much fun with the role. And, in turn, the audience has fun listening to him.
PurpleWarrior13
said at 2:59 AM on Sun May 12 2013
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Definitely Mark Hamill. He sounds like someone you'd be extremely uncomfortable with, while still displaying some charm and characteristics other than just "evil".

Winkless did sound pretty scary, but his acting puts a new meaning to that word, and not in a good way. The direction is likely to blame for this. Seriously, there was so much wrong with that clip. I nearly laughed when I heard "We will RELEASE the boy! He will go FREE!", as well as his explanation of Laputa towards the beginning of the clip ("THREATEN the entire WORLD!"). It sounded like he was speed reading his sentences and occasionally putting full emphasis on random words.
JTurner
said at 2:59 PM on Sun May 12 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 You haven't even heard the half of Winkless. He got especially laughable during his revelation of Laputa: "you little BRAT. Now YOU die" and especially his climactic confrontation with Sheeta: this place is where the THRONE ROOM is, isn't that appropriate? Now say bye-bye!" Seriously. One listen to him and I was absolutely wincing. Hands down, it proved to me that Mark Hamill was the better Muska. He absolutely kicks the heck out of Winkless.
PurpleWarrior13
said at 10:09 PM on Mon May 13 2013
@JTurner Eek! Yeah, and it sounds like the script Wrinkless was working with was pretty bad too, and may even be contributing to the bad performances in that dub.
JTurner
said at 10:15 PM on Mon May 13 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 Oh yeah, the script for the older dub was bloody awful. Whoever was in charge of it obviously was not very skilled in his craft. Oh sure, it's less loosely adapted than Disney's version, but where's the good in that when the dialogue sounds choppy and stilted with lines as laughable as this? As much as I dislike the JAL dub of LAPUTA and prefer Disney's, I really don't blame any of the actors involved in the former; the older dub was clearly rushed, hence why it turns out so badly. But Winkless absolutely killed the '80s dub for me. Even Cody and Goodson sounded off. And this is from somebody who genuinely recognizes that these guys HAVE done good.
Fulgore2005
said at 8:05 AM on Sat Sep 1 2012
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For me, Mark Hamill nailed the role of Muska. He puts in a great amount of emotion. He also strikes a great chord of both evil and menacing, and it sounds like he enjoys doing the role. My vote is automatically for Hamill.
Fulgore2005
said at 7:54 PM on Thu Sep 6 2012
@Fulgore2005 I forgot to give my take on the late Jeff Wrinkles, so I'll do it here. I give him credit for trying to copy Terada's performance. But the directing and script really made his performance fall apart. It sounds very monotone and dull because of it.

All in all, I'm still with Hamill for the vote.
JTurner
said at 8:48 PM on Thu Oct 4 2012
@Fulgore2005 I don't necessarily think the point of a dub is to copy the original Japanese voice actor either; IRC Johnny Yong Bosch said that doing so is more like an imitation, not a genuine performance. I don't know if that was what Jeff was going for when he did Muska, but either way, it definitely wasn't one of his best roles by any means. He did much better as Jodo from "Castle of Cagliostro" though.
Fulgore2005
said at 5:50 PM on Fri Oct 5 2012
@JTurner Very true.
Porchops
said at 9:37 PM on Mon May 14 2012
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Its hard to compare because they both give two completely different takes on the character. Hamil is hammy and deliciously evil and is quite entertaining to listen to. Terada(the original Japanese voice actor) makes Muska colder and more loathsome, which makes his demise all the more satisfying. Winkless basically try's to emulate that performance. I like the tone he uses, but the cheesy and often stilted dialog really did a toll on his delivery. Still I think he was one of the better voices in the international dub and isn't as bad as others make him out to be. Hamil gets my vote for his superior delivery. If this were a contest between Hamil and Terada I would flip a coin, because I think they both stand out in there own ways; Terada's being more loathsome and Hamil's being more entertaining.
JTurner
said at 11:34 AM on Tue May 15 2012
@Porchops For me Winkless was the reason I disliked the JAL dub so much; I just couldn't stand his Muska, period. Hamill was so much better.
MatthewC17
said at 6:31 PM on Tue May 1 2012
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Mark Hamill wins this one
He sounds more menacing

said at 11:15 PM on Fri Mar 11 2011
Hamill wins, 'nuff said.
mvx248
said at 1:21 PM on Tue Mar 15 2011
@Anime Dub Reviewer Nice alt.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:44 PM on Tue Mar 1 2011
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Mark Hamill, definitely. Jeff Winkless sounds extremely bored and monotone, like he's reading directly off the script.
JTurner
said at 10:55 PM on Fri Mar 4 2011
@NCZ 100% agreed. If there's anyone who excels at this character, it's Mark. He's the real star of Disney's dub (as well as Cloris Leachman's Dola). And I'm glad that I'm not the only one who felt that Jeff's take was so inept. (Defenders have told me that Jeff sounded more "subtle" but I just didn't see it; all I heard was just coldreading. It was just awful.) He fared much better as Jodo in "Castle of Cagliostro" though.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:09 PM on Fri Mar 4 2011
@JTurner Yeah. Mark puts in more emotion, sounds more evil, and you can tell he's really enjoying the role. I can just visualize Mark in the studio, ad-libbing in-character and having a good time. I suppose I can understand where Jeff is coming from, but he sounds like he came to the session bored and delivered his lines half-asleep.
JTurner
said at 12:12 AM on Sat Mar 5 2011
@NCZ Either that or he just wasn't directed very well. The older dub was done very quickly and rapidly, which arguably explains why it turned out the way it did. Even Carl Macek himself said that he was embarrassed with it (hence why he made the old dub for TOTORO to show he could do better). Disney's version may not have been without its faults, but I personally liked it much better.
gsbr
said at 4:26 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@NCZ I have to disagree. Hamill overacts and plays Muska as a stereotypical villain. He's not supposed to sound evil, he's supposed to be able to fool people into thinking he's not a bad person.
gsbr
said at 4:30 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@JTurner "Even Carl Macek himself said that he was embarrassed with it (hence why he made the old dub for TOTORO to show he could do better)."

No he didn't. He said the dub was adequate. The only thing he disliked were the stupid voices the pirate brothers were given.
JTurner
said at 5:19 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@gsbr That's not what I heard. He said that the older dub was below his standards and that he wanted to do a much better job. That's why he did TOTORO.

And sorry, but Hamill's Muska is anything but stereotypical. I'd rather hear him than Winkless sleepwalking through the whole role anyday. Nobody in the older dub was at their best when they recorded it. Hamill was both perfect for the role and arguably superior to his Japanese counterpart. That he looks like the character is also a plus. So I'm sorry, but Jeff's version is nothing but dull and lifeless with ZERO charisma or enthusiasm. He totally underwhelmed every minute of the character and only got worse at the end. Hamill by contrast was spot-on from the start.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:20 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@gsbr I think Hamill plays that aspect pretty well, from what I hear. To be honest, I've never actually seen this movie, but even if he does sound like a stereotypical villain (which I disagree with), it'd still be much better than a complete monotone.
JTurner
said at 10:43 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@NCZ Absolutely. I know that Jeff Winkless is a good actor, but I just wasn't impressed with his Muska. There are other examples of "subtle evil acting" that clearly exceed this. Like NCZ said, I felt Hamill played the aspect of Muska sounding nice one minute and insane the next very well.
gsbr
said at 10:46 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@NCZ I'd agree if Winkless was completely monotone, but he's not. When the scene requires emotion (i.e. the scene where he gets blinded) he delivers.
gsbr
said at 10:46 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@JTurner @JTurner What's your source of this? Here's mine:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2010-01-14 (he talks about Laputa at 48:18). He didn't like the dub, but he didn't hate it either.
JTurner
said at 11:36 PM on Mon Mar 7 2011
@gsbr Sorry to disagree with you about Winkless, but I felt that that moment fell very, very short. To me it sounded forced and not nearly as strong as it could have been. His final scream was also quite weak. Hamill sounded much more effective during that moment, like he generally was in pain. His scream and rants of "My eyes! I can't see!" also gave me chills, and it does so every time. I just didn't have that same reaction with Winkless. Yes, Jeff is a good actor, but I was still quite disappointed with his Muska. He did a much better job as Jodo from "The Castle of Cagliostro".

As for my source of Macek disliking the LAPUTA dub, I found it from a Wikipedia article about Streamline Pictures. It quotes:

"As a fan of Miyazaki's films, Macek did not think Laputa (of which Streamline was the distributor) had received the quality of dubbing that a Miyazaki film deserved."

There was also heard a phone interview between him and Robotech Master (aka Chris Meadows) that I heard a long time ago where he said he wasn't pleased with how it turned out. I don't remember where the link was (it was on a newsgroup that I stumbled across some time ago.) So I definitely don't feel like I'm making this up.
gsbr
said at 11:50 AM on Tue Mar 8 2011
@JTurner Hamill was being backed up by the background music, Winkless had to rely on his own performance for that scene. Then, Winkless sounds like he's in pain when he stumbles into the crumbling throne room, while Hamill utters a melodramatic "NOOOO!" which doesn't match up with the character's lip movements.

That quote from the Wikipedia article doesn't have a citation. I'm a little suprised it's still on there.
JTurner
said at 12:07 PM on Tue Mar 8 2011
@gsbr Sorry, I can't agree with that. Winkless has done much better in other roles, and I didn't feel anything from his Muska. To me it felt just like a stilted, cold read of the script, not real acting. And I didn't have the impression that he sounded like he was really in pain, it felt forced and not as strong as it could have been.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
JTurner
said at 12:14 PM on Tue Mar 8 2011
@JTurner Furthermore, the background music was added in after the dubbing was made; in the 2010 reissue of the film there is no music when he shouts those lines. I also liked the NO at the end; sure it wasn't in sync, but it was still awesome, and it gives me chills eery time. Winkless didn't sound emotional enough.
gsbr
said at 10:26 PM on Tue Mar 8 2011
@JTurner Although the background music was added in after the dubbing, Hamill's "NO!" was modified in post-production. I can see why you would prefer Hamill when Muska gets initially blinded, but the NO does not work with the scene. I feel like it was added in because Disney assumed Muska's death wasn't obvious enough.
JTurner
said at 11:03 PM on Tue Mar 8 2011
@gsbr We'll have to agree to disagree. I liked the no and thought it was awesome. But otherwise, we'll just have to let this issue to rest. We both have different preferences, and neither are better nor worse, only different.
gsbr
said at 4:49 PM on Wed Mar 9 2011
@JTurner Fair enough.
whitly (Guest)
said at 12:33 AM on Fri Oct 15 2010
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This is a no-brainer for me: Mark Hamill is the better Muska by far. I've yet to hate a Hamill role, even if I hate the movie he's been in (I didn't like the original Star Wars movies, for example.) Hamill just seems to be naturally gifted at making his characters seem convincing, and Muska is no exception. I really liked how he went from "mystery man lame brain, gets owned by Sheeta" in the beginning of the movie to "insane psychopath" at the end. His transition was so well-done that I'm pretty sure I could hear the Joker in his laugh by the movie's climax, not to mention that he made the shooting of Sheeta's pigtails seem quite creepy. Even if Count Cagliostro wins the award for "most epic death in a Miyazaki film to date," Muska wins runner-up.

As for Jeff Winkless? More in-line with the original Muska, perhaps, but he feels too wooden and suffers because of it. This is just another reason why sometimes it's better to revise a script to fit the suited language than to stay true to the original. The Disney Collector's Edition of this film is proof of why the changes were necessary to begin with.
ghiblidubfan (Guest)
said at 5:43 PM on Tue Oct 12 2010
What?! Only 51.2% for Hamill? For shame! His Muska is simply outstanding. He deserves better than that! He puts a lot more emotion into his character which works in favor of his passion for Laputa.
tedshatner10 (Guest)
said at 9:40 PM on Mon Aug 23 2010
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Mark Hamill as Muska veers into camp sometimes, but he's more engaging and convincing as a sociopath that's putting on a smarmy act and trying to fool people with his disarming happy-go-lucky attitude.

The late Jeff Winkless sounds like a lower functioning sociopath who sounds too monotone and excels at putting his victims to sleep. I liked Jeff as Jodo from The Castle Cagliostro though, he sounds completely different.
mvx248 (Guest)
said at 11:27 PM on Sun Aug 22 2010
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Winkless and Hamill give completely different takes of the character. If you heard one of them first, you'd probably prefer him over his counterpart.

Winkless plays the character as an emotionless man who only cares about himself. He's not dull or boring as those who are hooked on Hamill's version would claim. His Muska only hints at being insane and he only provides emotion when necessary.

Hamill, meanwhile, portrays Muska as a sinister agent on the brink of insanity. In contrast to Winkless' subtle emotion, Hamill goes all out with the character.

In the end they both fit, but my overall edge goes to Winkless. Hamill tried sounding charismatic and evil, Winkless just naturally was.
ghiblidubfan (Guest)
said at 6:45 PM on Fri Aug 20 2010
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How anybody can prefer Jeff Winkless over Hamill is totally beyond me; Mark is simply amazing in the role. Jeff just doesn't compare; he's dull, boring, and totally devoid of any charisma.
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 7:00 PM on Wed Apr 7 2010
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In my opinion, Hamill sounds unsuitably hammy here, given how believable everyone else (minus the two leads) sounds. I mean, I certainly don't know much people who talk like that. I think Winkless's cold, emotionless and arguably more realistic delivery gets more of an effect in my mind.
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 10:11 AM on Mon Mar 3 2014
@CatsTuxedo Changing my vote to Hamill; I understand voice acting a lot better than I did back then, and I would never stand for voice acting like Winkless's now :/
jont (Guest)
said at 8:55 PM on Fri Mar 19 2010
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Absolutely no contest for this role. Mark nails the character from the start--his sly, smooth-talking scenes with Sheeta and the General to the climactic moments where he unleashes his psychopathic true colors are the stuff of absolute excellence. And of course, there's the evil laugh. There may be places where he sounds a little bit like the Joker, but it works in favor of the character. Actually, since Muska himself resembles Hamill (and yes, Luke Skywalker) it's all the more convenient that he proved to be such a successful casting choice. He really makes Disney's dub a delight.

Sadly, the opposite is true for Jeff; I don't know if it was due to the conditions or not, but Jeff just coldreads his way through the role with zero charisma and enthusiasm. This performance is so boring that it really causes the JAL dub to come crashing down. It gets even worse at the climactic moments; he underwhelms every moment of intensity that Mark gave and is saddled with dialogue such as "now say bye-bye!", adding unintentional humor to what is supposed to be a frightening moment.

So in the end, there really is no question over who is the better Muska (it's Mark).


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