Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS
US Release: Oct 03, 2014
Japan Release: Sep 13, 2014
Europe Release: Oct 03, 2014

Game Developer: Namco Bandai

Popularity: 4th All Time, 31st This Week

Franchise: Nintendo
Characters on BTVA: 135
Wii U Release Date: November 21, 2014 (Americas), November 28, 2014 (Europe/Australia), December 5, 2014 (Japan)

Both versions have an identical playable character roster, but each offer different stages, modes of play, trophies, music, and more.

DLC characters: Mewtwo (April 2015), Lucas, Roy, Ryu (June 2015), Cloud (December 2015), Corrin, Bayonetta (February 2016)

Continuing the trend introduced by Brawl, this game features a small handful of non-Nintendo characters as special guests. Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog returns from the previous game, joined by Bayonetta from the same company, Capcom's Mega Man and Ryu, Namco's Pac-Man, and Square Enix's Cloud Strife.
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Mr. Kite
said at 9:52 PM on Thu Jun 22 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Been playing this game recently and realized that a lot of the voices are recycled from Brawl. It seems like most of the new voices are from Kirby and Ness`s voice actress and the announcer. With Kirby I can understand because his voice actress ended up doing a bunch of Japanese and English lines for Kirby`s new copy abilites.
Shaun Ince
said at 2:05 PM on Sun Jul 30 2017
@Mr. Kite Sonic's voice lines were recycled from Sonic Generations. And that's for both English & Japanese.
Mr. Kite
said at 9:08 PM on Mon Aug 28 2017
@Shaun Ince
His final smash line was actually gotten from Sonic Lost World
Soul-dragon
said at 5:16 PM on Sat Jun 10 2017
 1 Shout Out!
If Smash Bros does come out for the Switch they NEED to get English voices for Cloud, Marth, Zelda and Roy. I'm positive they could get Steve Burton, Yuri Lowenthall, Patricia Sumersett and Ray Chase.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:35 PM on Sat Jun 10 2017
@Soul-dragon

Why would Twilight Zelda have BOTW Zelda's voice? Why should she get dubbed and not the other Zelda characters? All they do is grunt so it'd be kind of pointless. I wouldn't say it's something they *need* to do since no one's really losing sleep over it.
Soul-dragon
said at 5:44 PM on Sat Jun 10 2017
@NCZ I guess... but I still would like to hear Marth and Roy with English voices since they actually have some taunts and victory lines. As for Zelda, I definitely wouldn't lose any sleep over her not being dubbed. I honestly didn't like Sumersett's portrayal that much. It seemed like she was trying to hard to sound British.
Abdullab
said at 4:47 PM on Sun Jun 4 2017
do u think its possible when nintendo switch releases their own version of super smash bros that they could bring back adventure/story mode.

while we may get the cliche crossover of they have to fight first but teamup to fight a greater evil story but comeon we are a sucker for this and find it awesome and maybe make the characters have more dialogue this time around for adventure mode cutscenes.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:48 PM on Sun Jun 4 2017
@Abdullab

Yeah, my hope for a Smash Bros. game on Switch is:

- Use the Wii U as the base and bring EEEVERYTHING over
- Compatible with the GCN adapter
- Add an adventure mode. I don't even need it to have a crazy plot like the Subspace Emissary did (though if we did get that I'd still be cool with that). A more deluxe version of Melee's, with stages based on each of the various universes, is perfect to me.
- Inklings, Wolf, Snake. Please.
- Bring back Target Test! Didn't really like Target Blast.

Tons of other things I'd love (e.g. alt skins... I want to play as the OOT, Skyward, BOTW, etc. versions of the Zelda cast... and more FF and Street Fighter music, trophies, and items) but all that is what I think would be really cool.

There were only a handful of 3DS stages that I really liked but I wouldn't mind if they brought all of them over. Even at least the retro stages that were in that one.
Pancake_Scoodle
said at 9:56 PM on Tue Jan 24 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
reading these comments is like a trip down memory lane
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:56 PM on Sun Jun 4 2017
@Pancake_Scoodle

This game's hype cycle was a ton of fun, but man do I wish the GameFAQs Brawl boards from 2005 - 2007 were archived. GameFAQs only started archiving their boards around the time the game came out, so all of the pre-release stuff is lost. There was so much insanity, it was one of my favourite times on the internet. It's crazy to think that was over 10 years ago now.
Shaun Ince
said at 4:29 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
 1 Shout Out!
I know with some of the Nintendo characters they have archived dialogue from previous games & even different games entirley in some cases but was there a reason as to why the same process wasn't done with Magnus & Phosphora?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:28 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
@Shaun Ince SAG-AFTRA rules require actors in union games to be compensated if their work is reused. Nintendo probably just found it cheaper/more efficient to not do that.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:27 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
@Shaun Ince (If I didnt say this before) Do you ever wonder why they maintain all the Japanese actors, who presumably are contracted under the same rate, but dont do the same, or even unionize, for the English dub? Considering that this is Smash Bros, & that Nintendo didn't simply outsource this without consideration for who does a dub.

Bearing in mind there isnt a ton of dialogue/recording time to be paid for in a fighting game like Smash, & that the dubbed version sold just as much as the Japanese release - & Smash has always sold very well in the States, Brawl selling *twice* as much in US alone, as it did in Japan.

Video games are also the most *expensive* voice-over in Japan, too, IIRC. So it seems weird that they arnt consistent there. I mean, it's not like Japanese fans notice VAs more, right? Plenty of kids, I'm sure, noticed the change of say, Dragon Ball VAs, the way kids here notice the recasts of the PPG reboot.
Shaun Ince
said at 7:45 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
@NCZ That does kinda explain why they brought in Seitz & Komure to "voice match" them in this game. At least Hynden Walch got to reprise her role as Viridi in this game.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 8:29 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
@Shaun Ince Although it's so weird because Hynden has no history of doing non-union stuff. Guess she just figured she's being nice.
CelestialOuroboros
said at 10:51 AM on Mon Jan 2 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
This entry right here is what I wanted after Melee, which to this day remains the best installment in the series; the aesthetics were cool, the engine in and of itself was fast-paced, and that soundtrack it had is simply ace. Brawl was still fantastic, though I feel it also fell a bit short compared to its antecedent, and the Subspace Emissary got tiresome after awhile. I really, really appreciate that this game takes the best traits of the past two titles and turns it into one electrifying, flat-out memorable experience. The character selection is sweet, overall atmosphere is about right, and... did I forget to mention how much ass SSB4 kicks by and large? The evolution that this little franchise underwent throughout the years is crazy.

Smash Run is fun, too. Nothing more, nothing less.
HienFan
said at 8:10 AM on Sat Nov 12 2016
I might get the game one day most likely the 3DS version but you know what... Ryu and Jigglypuff in the same game... my dream has come true, my favourite cuddlepuff gets to face the king of fighting games or even Cloud from one of the most groundbreaking RPG ever
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:49 PM on Tue Sep 13 2016
 7 Shout Outs!
Holyyy cow. It's been two years since the game came out in Japan already? Holy crap, time flies.

I'm really happy with how far the game came. It was fantastic at launch, and the DLC made it near-perfect. I still can't believe I actually got Cloud, Ryu, and Bayonetta in a Smash Bros. game. No joke, it's been almost a year and I'm still pinching myself. Every time I boot up the game I still can't process just how incredible this lineup of characters is. Roy aside. As someone who really, really loves games, the fact that this series has gone from a celebration of Nintendo to a celebration of the Japanese game industry in general is just amazing. I don't know how they're going to top this one.

Hopefully the NX will get a port of the Wii U version with some bonuses. Really, that's all I need from the series going forward.
SLEDGERAID
said at 1:14 PM on Thu Feb 4 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
Man this cast just got more awesome with the additions of Bayonetta and Corrins but to hear a childhood VA like Cam Clarke just make deel super frigin happier to play the game man oh man
HylianBelmont
said at 9:41 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 3 Shout Outs!
I can't tell you how happy I am to have Cam Clarke in a Smash Bros game.
ConfusedPhantom
said at 9:06 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
CAM CLARKE IN MY SMASH BROS?! WOOOOO
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:33 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
So just for reference's sake, here is the final credit listing for the NA version of SSB for Wii U!

https://youtu.be/Ox-Kq093Fts?t=13m5s
King Marth 64
said at 7:25 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
Just downloaded the Corrin data in both versions and played the Classic Mode in the Nintendo 3DS version. But, they only showed the Corrin's voice actors only in Corrin's data. I was hoping that his sibiling's voice actors showed up on the credits to have more proof since we did heard them in the trailer.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:44 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
Cam Clarke is Male Corrin! HA! CALLED IT! I knew it from the start! XD
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:33 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
So it was Cam Clarke. That's pretty cool, it's been a while since I've heard him in something. Not familiar with Marcella Lentz Pope, but it seems like she's done a pretty good job too.
King Marth 64
said at 6:43 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@Nightmare Crusher I expected to be Chermai Leigh, but I didn't expect to be Marcella Lentz Pope since I only did see one episode with Jin in Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Neo-One
said at 10:58 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@Nightmare Crusher me too and what I remembered Marcella Lentz-Pope she voiced Moira Burton in RE: Revelations 2.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:31 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 3 Shout Outs!
Snake.... did you like my dragon transformation?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:41 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@NCZ Now I have yet another reason to miss Snake.
MilanTheVillain01
said at 9:26 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@Nightmare Crusher *i the best Snake voice I can muster* "Why did you disguise yourself as Corrin?"
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:10 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Seems that the patch is out now! This is it everyone. Give me about 30 minutes to download, run through classic mode, and update with the final game credits.

(Brings a bit of a tear to my eye...)
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:12 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@NCZ I can feel the tension. Just who is Corrin? Lots of people have said Cam Clarke and while it does sound like him I've had some doubts. Come on, show me the money!
King Marth 64
said at 6:17 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@NCZ I hope my guess the female version of Corrin got to be Chermai Leigh got to be correct. (I'm downloading the Corrin data to see I can check on Corrin also.)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:27 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
Shazzammity-lam!
King Marth 64
said at 6:28 PM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@King Marth 64 Done downloading Corrin, but the Patch for my Wii U copy hasn't been download yet. What the heck?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:25 AM on Wed Feb 3 2016
Do we know when exactly the update is coming? It can't be long now.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:39 AM on Wed Feb 3 2016
@Nightmare Crusher It hasn't been officially announced yet, but there's maintenance going on from 7:50 pm EST --> 9:30 pm EST. So, probably a bit after then's when everything available.
King Marth 64
said at 8:28 PM on Sat Jan 30 2016
Nintendo of America just confirmed from Twitter that both Bayonetta and Coriin will be coming to the Nintendo eShop on next Wednesday at February 3rd in North America.

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/693644896624836609

I'm placing my guess that the female Corrin is definitely Chermai Leigh guessing by remembering that voice from my memory. But, I just wondered who voiced the Male Corrin though?
King Marth 64
said at 8:30 PM on Sat Jan 30 2016
@King Marth 64 *Corrin (I have no idea why the first one in my previous post that I typed have two Is instead of two Rs?)
Jessica Marra
said at 6:20 AM on Sun Jan 31 2016
@King Marth 64 You're correct about Female Corrin. No doubt that it's Cherami Leigh.

To answer your question about Male Corrin... it's most definitely Cam Clarke. The guy voiced Leonardo in the 80s TMNT cartoon, Liquid Snake in the Metal Gear Solid franchise, Simba in Kingdom Hearts 2, etc. He's done a LOT.

I can't WAIT to download both Bayonetta and Corrin! XD
Toon Angel
said at 3:22 PM on Wed Jan 13 2016
I like Toon Link, Ness, and Lucas! =D
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:11 PM on Sun Jan 10 2016
 3 Shout Outs!
For anyone curious:

https://twitter.com/nobunaga_s/status/677031397878460416
https://twitter.com/satosatomi58/status/676922721779978240
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/684558280585310208
Jessica Marra
said at 5:37 AM on Mon Jan 11 2016
@NCZ Okay so the Japanese voices are officially confirmed. Same actors from Fates. I believe I know who's voicing the two Corrins in English:

I know it's Cam Clarke as Male Corrin cause I know his voice when I hear it and Female Corrin, I'm 90% sure it's Erica Mendez (Aladdin from Magi and Ryuko from Kill la Kill).

I know it's not official yet but I have a strong feeling it's those two actors.
King Marth 64
said at 7:55 AM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@Jessica Marra I'm pretty sure the Female Corrin sounded more like Chermai Leigh than Erica Mendez, but I could wrong though.
Jessica Marra
said at 9:34 AM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@King Marth 64 You think it's Chermai Leigh? I listened to Female Corrin more and more and now I believe it's Carrie Keranen. I know her voice when I hear it. She was in Xenoblade Chronicles as Irina, Kill La Kill as Satsuki and Yamraiha in Magi.
Jessica Marra
said at 12:45 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@King Marth 64 No, I'm so sorry, King Marth 64... you're more right than I am. I listened to Female Corrin over and over again and yes, I know it IS Cherami Leigh. I was wrong. My mistake.

But again... they're not going to officially post the voice actors till the release date for Male and Female Corrin will be out by next month.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:41 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@Jessica Marra

The good news is there's only a bit under four weeks until Fates is out in NA, and the DLC will probably be out around the same time. I have a feeling that the DLC may actually come out first, though. Just what my gut tells me.

I remember the dub cast list for Awakening was actually available early because a bunch of stores were selling the game a week before they were supposed to. I was wondering if that'd happen again, but Nintendo seems to have been a lot stricter about that recently. We'll see though. I'm prepared either way.
Jessica Marra
said at 4:27 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@NCZ Man, I hope we get to see the full English cast soon but if Nintendo is strict about this, oh, well. Still I believe my prediction is true.

Also I know without a doubt that Matthew Mercer is Ryoma. It's great he plays another character in the Fire Emblem series cause I loved him as Chrom from Awakening.

I loved the English cast of Awakening so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the English cast of Fates will be just as good or surprisingly better (not likely or maybe) than Awakening.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:46 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@Jessica Marra

Well, now that I think of it, Xenoblade X just recently had its cast listed a week or so early too, because someone with access to a press copy (provided by Nintnedo) released it. Nintendo usually gives press copies of their games pretty early so theoretically that kind of situation could happen again. Fingers crossed.

Yeah, Mercer's definitely Ryoma. I kind of have mixed thoughts on that since I'm not really a fan of when RPGs cast the same voice actor as a similar main character archetype using the same voice for two games in a row, but oh well.

Other than that it's nice to see that the cast of Fates seems to be pretty fresh thus far. There've been some shakeups in Cup of Tea's talent pool since Awakening came out (influx of newer "Bang Zoom" VAs, a healthy assortment of visiting voice actors from Texas, etc.) so I think they can pull together something great.

(I know that Yoshimasa Hosoya and Miyuki Sawashiro are in Fates as well, but Hosoya's primary role is a supporting character on top of reprising Robin and Sawashiro's character is... very different from Robin, so I'm fine with it)
Jessica Marra
said at 5:46 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@NCZ Well... with Mercer playing Ryoma, I noticed he made his voice a bit deeper than how he played Chrom.

As for Male and Female Corrin again... I'm calling it right now:

Cam Clarke is Male Corrin
Cherami Leigh is Female Corrin

What about you?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:24 PM on Wed Jan 20 2016
@Jessica Marra

Ah, well...

Male Corrin has some qualities that I agree remind me of Cam Clarke but I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone else.

I'm not really familiar with Cherami Leigh's work since I don't really watch a lot of anime dubs. I saw a few episodes of Sgt Frog right around the time Funi got the license but it's been been long enough that I can't tell you what she sounds like off memory. Checking out a few clips to refresh my memory on here I guess there are some qualities in common. I can't really throw out any suggestions of my own since I don't know a lot of the newer Cup of Tea actresses that well either.

Overall I suppose I'm a very non-committal type of person as you can see.
Jessica Marra
said at 4:14 AM on Sun Dec 27 2015
I got the Wii U and Smash Bros Wii U for Christmas! Guys, I am having a BLAST with it!

This game improved all the previous games' problems and has a fantastic roster. I already downloaded Lucas, Roy, Ryu and Mewtwo!

Ryu is a ton of fun to use and powerful! I'm so happy to see Lucas, Roy and Mewtwo back again!

I don't think I'm gonna buy Cloud, Corrin or even Bayonetta because I'm already satisfied with the roster as it is. Please don't hate or God forbid crucify me for this, it's my opinion and please respect that.

Overall, guys, this is without a doubt the best Smash Bros we've had to date and I can't stop loving it! XD
Webmike1
said at 8:43 PM on Sat Dec 19 2015
Something I like to note is that is somewhat unreleated. Is that it seems that Smash 4's rating has changed, from a E10+ to a Rating Pending - T for Teen. as shown by the final presentation. Which I think it due to Bayonetta's inclusion.
SonikkuAensland
said at 5:10 PM on Sat Dec 26 2015
@Webmike1 The T rating was for Fire Emblem Fates! n_n
VaisuKaguya
said at 8:36 PM on Wed Dec 16 2015
Something interesting a friend pointed out to me. In the Japanese trailer for Bayonetta they switch to the English voice when they show the Bayo 1 alt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzUA5YFO3A
Webmike1
said at 10:59 AM on Sat Dec 19 2015
@VaisuKaguya Was just about to coment that. And ff you (or anyone else) is wondering, it was due to the fact that Bayonetta 1 didn't have a Japanese dub 1st came out for Japan, but after Anime they got a japanese Dub for them, which they used for Bayonetta 2 and (most likely) Smash 4.
VaisuKaguya
said at 5:31 PM on Sat Dec 19 2015
I wonder if that means switching the costumes switches the voices. I have the Japanese version of Smash and I like both of Bayo's voices so I would welcome this.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:03 PM on Sat Dec 19 2015
@VaisuKaguya Yes, in the Japanese version, Bayonetta will speak Japanese in the Bayo2 outfit, and English in the Bayo1 outfit.

Shame that's the kind of thing that'll be lost in translation because it's a really cool nod. The lack of a Japanese audio option in general is a missed opportunity but ah well.
Dark_Fiction
said at 12:13 AM on Wed Dec 16 2015
 1 Shout Out!
Okay so watching these trailers a few times here are a few of my thoughts!

I'm sad that Cloud did not have Steve Burton reprise as his voice. :( I'd love to hear his answer if somebody asked him if he tried to come out in the game or didn't or whatever yah know. Just really curious about that.

I'm so happy that Bayonetta is in Smash. SERIOUSLY!!!! Tbh I'm kinda worried that's not her orginal VA dough. :( I hope I'm wrong....

Korrin looks awesome despite other peoples feelings and negative thoughts. I feel like Cam Clarke is voicing the Male but I can't put a name on the female.

Can't wait for confirmations dough! Smash is really rocking right now and Cloud is a blast to play as! ^_^
VGAfanatic
said at 4:24 AM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@Dark_Fiction I am also in the apparent minority of folks who enjoyed the Corrin announcement. Hell, I even threw a suggestion for him the Smash Fighter Ballot.

And I wanted Bayonetta in the game since Bayonetta 2. SO glad that the vast majority of folks around thought the same.

REALLY looking forward playing as them both.

As for Corrin's voices, males sounds like Cam Clarke, and female, with the few lines she's had, kinda sounds like Erica Mendez. That's my guess.

And of course Hellena Taylor's reprising Bayo. There's no reason she wouldn't.
RobustCactus
said at 9:23 PM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@Dark_Fiction I've heard that Steve Burton was busy recording for the FFVII remake, but that might not be it.
Webmike1
said at 10:55 AM on Sat Dec 19 2015
@Dark_Fiction
Steve Burton has confirmed that he wasn't asked to return on Twitter the day after Cloud was announced. Though the asked afterwards (which I was hoping), but sadly it seems like they didn't. And as someone below has commented It could have been a union issue.



Link: https://twitter.com/1steveburton/status/665628225687707648
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:01 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
What I love is that all three of the DLC third-parties are characters I always thought would be amazing to see in, but wrote them off as impossibilities.

Ryu - We'd get Mega Man instead of him
Cloud - Too much of a "Playstation" character; always thought *a* Final Fantasy character would make it someday though
Bayonetta - Too "mature", too niche

The fact that they're all actually in is surreal to me but I'm so happy.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:28 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ I'm gonna give my recap on 3 characters that i didn't expect for 3 reasons :

Ryu - Didn't expect him to be in this, leaks aside, since i already felt like we already got a Capcom representative, but in trailer and fun facts from sakurai proved me wrong.

Cloud - I honestly cannot believe that Cloud of all 3rd parties would be in this that he isn't on a Nintendo consoles regardless of cameo appearences on said Nintendo consoles.

Bayonetta - i'll be honest with you, she is the one who is at least on Nintendo platform well on Bayonetta 2 packed in with the original Bayonetta, unlike cloud here.

But i digress.
SteelEthlan
said at 12:49 PM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@SteelEthlan For exact 3 reasons:*
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:46 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
Brawl - Rated T: NO GUNS FOR SNAKE, TOO VIOLENT!

Smash 4 - Rated E10: Bayonetta has four pistols.

Yeah, sure, whatever.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:44 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I think Bayonetta's more stylized guns kept her out of the proverbial danger zone, compared to Snake's very realistic weaponry.
VGAfanatic
said at 4:27 AM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@Scrappy-Fan92 Also, those bullets are Fairy souls. Take that, Navi!
SteelEthlan
said at 5:03 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Man i voted for Krystal and others i recently voted, and none of them got into this downloadable game.

And for Bayonetta & Corrin that was just in this game, i was ok with it.

And correct me if i'm wrong, even if Bayonetta was on a Nintendo Platform as a sequel, she's still technically a Sega character right?
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:51 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@SteelEthlan Yes, Bayonetta is still considered third-party, which means Namco only got one character when they helped develop the game (although Heihachi from Tekken was rumored to be considered).
SteelEthlan
said at 7:31 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Scrappy-Fan92 To be perfectly honest, i feel like Lloyd (As much i doubted for him to be in Smash) would've been a great fill in as 2nd representative to Namco, like with Sonic and Bayonetta to Sega, and lastly Mega Man and Ryu to Capcom.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:43 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@SteelEthlan If we had to get another Bandai Namco rep, I'd choose Agumon in a heartbeat.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:04 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Namco has a bunch of characters that would fit in great, but my top choices would probably be Lloyd, KOS-MOS, or Klonoa. Maybe Jin Kazama as an honourable mention.

Capcom has so many feasible characters that my dream game would be straight-up making Nintendo VS Capcom.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:54 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Cloud only speaks Japanese, just like Marth. Takahiro Sakurai voices him in all versions.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:48 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ Am I the only one who feels like Smash 4 dropped the ball with character voices?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:51 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Scrappy-Fan92 Getting to hear Takahiro Sakurai isn't a bad thing to me though~

Nah, they cut corners in a lot of ways, definitely.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:58 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ It's just doubly weird after Square-Enix went out of its way to get him back for the Final Fantasy VII Remake.
King Marth 64
said at 6:12 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ That's disappointing, I really wondered why Nintendo didn't ask Steven Burton voice Cloud, but Corrin and Bayonetta were speaking English in the trailers, but they still keep Cloud without an English dialogue?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:29 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Scrappy-Fan92 I'm guessing it might be a union thing.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:30 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I think that might be it actually.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:53 AM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@NCZ I don't really have a problem with Takahiro's Cloud it still would have been awesome hear Burton in the game. Oh well it's not that big of a deal I guess.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:17 AM on Wed Dec 16 2015
@HylianBelmont *To hear
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:17 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Downloading Cloud now. Will update on his VA situation.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:42 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
I wonder who the non-feasible characters above Bayonetta were. My guess.

1. Goku
2. Shrek
3. Banjo
4. Goku
5. Ridley
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:54 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I think we all know who he was talking about.

http://thekoalition.com/images/2013/04/solid-snake-saluting-in-metal-gear-solid-4.jpg
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:56 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ Honestly, at this point I'm almost glad Snake never showed up. The last thing I feel like doing right now is supporting Konami.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:13 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah, that's true. Knowing them I wouldn't be surprised if they'd want some ridiculous deal like getting all the profits from Snake DLC. That'd ensure no one would buy him. :V
SteelEthlan
said at 7:33 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I hope you're joking, and i hope they realize that manga character(s) and movie character(s) that had a game adaption do not count here.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:47 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@SteelEthlan Yes I'm joking. I put Goku on the list twice for a reason.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:49 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@SteelEthlan He's clearly talking about this Goku: http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Goku
BlueHeracross
said at 2:52 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
*sigh*
So much for that poll.....

Well I guess that had to leave some characters for Smash 5. Can't complain either since they did give us a lot of content (don't like that they actually pointed that put at the end though)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:06 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@BlueHeracross Bayonetta IS the poll character. In the presentation they explicitly said she was chosen because she was the highest-ranking negotiable/feasible character.
BlueHeracross
said at 3:23 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ
That's why I was sighing
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:00 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@BlueHeracross Well to each their own.
BlueHeracross
said at 4:03 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ
Don't get me wrong, even if I didn't exactly want her I still think she'll make a great addition. I'm just a little disappointed that she was the sole addition from the poll.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:12 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@BlueHeracross Fair enough. Yeah, the good thing about SSB4 is that it makes even the characters we dislike into amazing fighters who fit in perfectly. Personally Bayonetta's inclusion makes me happy on a number of levels but that's just me.

I'm actually really surprised we didn't get Inklings considering what a runaway hit Splatoon was, but oh well.

I didn't expect Corrin at all and have mixed thoughts on them but they look to have a really cool playstyle so I'll stay optimistic. In a perfect world their inclusion wouldn't feel like overkill because there would be no Roy but ah well.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:44 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
HOLY CRAP BAYONETTA
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:41 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 1 Shout Out!
OK, seriously, this was the grand finale and one of the characters is ANOTHER avatar character from Fire Emblem? I've been pretty satisfied with the roster so far, but this just sucks. I hate it. I think I would have seriously, legitimately, preferred it if they just put in a trash, joke character from the ballot. Like Shrek or something. God.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:29 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher Look at it this way: at least it's not Chrom.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:32 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ It's cold comfort, man. They should have just not done Roy and brought in a completely different character. The fact that Fire Emblem is tied with Pokemon for characters in this game is just surreal.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:47 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher While I do believe Fire Emblem is overrepresented (with Lucina by herself, FE has more characters than Zelda, let that sink in) I actually kind of like Corrin's interesting moveset. I do wish we had gotten someone like Lip from Panel de Pon, or a Golden Sun character.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:33 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Scrappy-Fan92 Like Issac?
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 7:41 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@SteelEthlan Isaac's the most popular choice, but his son from Dark Dawn would be okay too (just downplay the sword-aspects of the characters who do use swords).
Metabad
said at 2:32 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
R.I.P. Wolf we will never forget you. :'(
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:45 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Metabad He'll be revealed in the Direct in February when they announce Bayo and Corrin's release dates, along with more info on Star Fox Zero.

Right...? ;_;
HylianBelmont
said at 3:30 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@NCZ Keep that dream alive man...

Someone still has to have hope:(
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:19 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Bayonetta? I kind of expected this actually.
King Marth 64
said at 2:01 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
Corrin just confirmed from The Final Video Presetation. Wow!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:01 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
FIRE EMBLEM, FIRE EMBLEM, FIRE EMBLEM!

What the hell?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:47 PM on Mon Dec 14 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
If characters leak again please do not comment on them. Leaked content for games will never be added unless officially announced by the publisher and some people simply want to enjoy the presentation without having it be spoiled beforehand. Please be courteous.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:35 PM on Wed Dec 9 2015
 1 Shout Out!
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/674589393080991744/photo/1

Less than a week everyone.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:15 AM on Sun Nov 22 2015
You know, we never did find out who Julie Parker played, did we?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:19 AM on Sun Nov 22 2015
@Nightmare Crusher No, we never did. Oh well.

I figured out who "Teiya Ichiryusai" is though. Stage name for Aya Hara (Krystal on Lylat Cruise).
King Marth 64
said at 11:17 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
I just wondered that Cloud actually became the Ballot Winner or Sakurai could have just added Cloud just for supporting the Final Fantasy series. I mean like we did have Ryu announced during when the Ballot was open and Sakurai did confirmed that Roy and Ryu were in the middle of development before the Ballot was open to the public.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:14 AM on Fri Nov 13 2015
@King Marth 64 For some reason, I doubt that they'd have a full gameplay trailer ready for Cloud if he was one of the Ballot "winners".
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 5:32 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
So Nintendo was able to get the Final Fantasy VII character for their crossover, but Sony couldn't? At this point in time, Sakurai could probably just sneeze and Activision would give him Crash Bandicoot (not really, but let me dream).
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:31 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
1. Mario
2. Sonic
3. Mega Man
4. Pac Man
5. Ryu
6. Cloud

Now we just need to bring Snake back and get one more super big character and we'll have to greatest 8 player smash imaginable. Do it Nintendo, DO IT!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:36 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@Nightmare Crusher Well... we have this guy! (As a costume.)

http://www.smashbros.com/sp/us/images/dlc/costume_3_7.jpg
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:42 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ NO! I have found the perfect candidate!
https://twitter.com/HIDEO__KOJIMA_/status/664940790565765120
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:46 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I can see it now.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/15c7fd4416a4340eb1409087c2b475fa/tumblr_nc5twcaiPz1qk5wyfo1_500.jpg
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:50 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ You know what the best part of that picture is? The fact that Nomura's(I think) face doesn't even look edited in.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:49 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
 3 Shout Outs!
OH MY GOD

I'M SCREAMING

I'M A NERVOUS WRECK RIGHT NOW

FRIST RYU AND NOW THIS


MY HEART

MY HEEEEEAAAARTT

I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:51 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ Please don't die for real. I was only joking.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:55 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@Nightmare Crusher O0I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK RIGHT NOW
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:57 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ SOMEBODY HELP! THIS GUY ARE SICK!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:51 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
New Direct in 10 minutes.

Give me Wolf or give me death.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:45 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ Death it is!
Ghosty404
said at 7:05 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@NCZ Do ya still want death?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:19 PM on Thu Nov 12 2015
@Ghosty404 I already feel like I've died and come back to life.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:48 PM on Sun Oct 18 2015
Wait, who voiced Ludwig? Mike or David?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:51 PM on Sun Oct 18 2015
@Nightmare Crusher David Goldfarb has said that some of his clips were used, though as far as I can tell much of it is from New Super Mario Bros Wii.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 12:07 PM on Mon Sep 7 2015
Remember everyone, less than a month until the Smash Ballot closes so make sure to vote for your favorite character!
Jacob M. Keene
said at 5:23 PM on Wed Jul 1 2015
This is a really fun game! I've been playing the heck out of it on my Nintendo 3DS! I also own the Wii U, but I only played my Wii U copy once so far, still had fun though. I'm glad that Alesia Glidewell reprised her role as Zero Suit Samus (and that Samantha Kelly and Charles Martinet obviously voice Peach and Mario respectively [Mario is my favorite Charles Martinet character so that's why I *only* named Mario there]), and that Xander Mobus got to voice the announcer/Master Hand/Crazy Hand (in fact, this game made me become a fan of his)! I've also had fun with the DLC characters, most notably Ryu and Mewtwo!
ErronDio
said at 7:07 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
This is what I wanted to see in Smash, iconic, legendary characters. I've wanted to see Simon Belmont to complete Team Game Master roster...If Konami gets their act together. I can just picture it.

Konami Pack: charcters Simon Belmot, Snake.
Mii Fighter Outfits: Raiden, Grey Fox, Bill Rizer, Lance Bean, James Sunderland, Pyramid Head, Goemon, Bomberman.
Stages: Dracula's Castle.

Its probably 99999999999999999% never gonna happen.
Kirbopher
said at 1:13 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
Not that I doubt any of them would be incorrect, but we do have visual confirmation on the new DLC characters' actors from the credits? Just wanna make sure!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:48 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
@Kirbopher Here:

http://i.imgur.com/wjJ5AT3.jpg
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:52 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
Confirmation for Hiroki Takahashi (高橋 広樹):
http://i.imgur.com/0BUbc5P.jpg
Fulgore2005
said at 12:09 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
Wow, this is more all-star than Brawl. I'm just amazed by it all.
SonikkuAensland
said at 11:21 AM on Sun Jun 14 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
Jeez, this was (almost) breaking news, Ryu's trailer was cool.

This game is going better and better. But now the e-shop is broken, hahaha.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:52 AM on Sun Jun 14 2015
@SonikkuAensland No kidding, I've been trying to download the new stuff for the past 1-2 hours. Twice I was at the point where I was about to have my credit card charged and then the server crapped out. :/

My favourite part of Ryu's trailer was definitely the homage to Super Street Fighter II's attract sequence at the beginning. That was my first Street Fighter game and seeing that put a huge grin on my face.
Axem Red
said at 10:54 AM on Wed May 6 2015
Apparently, you can vote for a character as DLC here: https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/

Deadline is October 3rd.
cowboycrocket
said at 5:48 PM on Sun Jun 14 2015
@Axem Red

I put in Axel from Streets of Rage on there. Would he make it in? Probably not but I figured what the hell give it a shot.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:34 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
So, a few different people cracked open the patch data. They found some interesting things. They found some data for Lucas, the Fire blem victory fanfare labelled Roy and, I'm not kidding, Ryu's theme from Street Fighter II. A storm is coming people.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:44 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher On one hand, Roy is trash. Fire Emblem has a massive cast of diverse characters and classes with nearly unlimited possibilities to choose from - archers, mages, manaketes, pegasus knight... but no, let's go with another swordsman and another Marth clone.

On the other hand, Ryu being in Smash Bros. has been a pipe dream of mine for years and I would be ecstatic if they actually added him. The sheer wealth of music, stages, and Assist Trophies they can draw from the Street Fighter series is mind-boggling, and his moveset practically writes itself. I'd be totally cool with him being in the game.

Also, they found the N64 Gourmet Race and GCN Cabbage Cavern themes from the Kirby series, which are the two main pieces of music from that series whose absences I found most conspicuous. So yeah, I'm pretty pumped about that too.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:16 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ Yeah, I would have brought back Wolf far sooner than Roy. Unless they completely revamp his moveset then what's the point.

Ryu is just a fantastic choice though. The guy is basically the face of fighting games and I would expect him to be just fun to play. Can't wait to see him in action.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:20 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ Yeah, but we can assume the fact that the number of 3rd party characters can only be limited to 2-3. If that's the case it can broke the rule about "two or three numbers of 3rd party characters" thing.

You may be already aware that, there's already a 3rd party capcom character such as megaman so it would be honestly pointless from here on out.

Why does anyone want a fighter that is from a 2D fighting game to another 2.5D Platforming-Fighting game?

Sorry, just felt serious about this.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:23 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher Darn straight. And the only part of a moveset that could seriously be changed is the final smash itself. And he should have a custom moves that matches up with wolf's either similarly or differently. And here i thought ness having Lucas' moveset as his custom moves pretty much broke down his chances to be brought back. But, boy i was really proven wrong.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:34 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@SteelEthlan Play MVC2 or Tatsunoko VS Capcom and you'll know that Ryu has no problem fitting into an OTT crossover fighting game.

At any rate, the "limit 1 per company" rule is more fan-imposed than anything considering I can't remember Sakurai saying it anywhere. Ryu is one of the few third-party characters I'd say is as close to iconic as the three we have, so I think he's fine.

At any rate, I do want to point out that nothing's really definitive until we get an official source.
Metabad
said at 8:12 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Nightmare Crusher I'm actually pretty glad Roy's returning, he was always my brother's main, and I always felt Ike was a disappointing replacement for him. Yeah he was a Marth clone, but between the two I always found Roy a lot more memorable. Plus while there are tons of Fire Emblem characters already, his moveset could easily be changed, especially since we already have Lucina in this.

But as for Ryu, that's just...what...why? I can't see that working at all. It doesn't seem like he'd fit at all with the style of the game, it's just completely out of left field. Plus he's already part of his own fighting game series. It'd make a bit more sense if it were just a Mii outfit, I think.

I'm no Street Fighter hater or anything (loved Third Strike) but Ryu would just be completely out of place here stylistically, and I can't see a moveset for him working at all in Smash Bros.

That's just me though, and I guess we'll see if he fits if/when he shows up.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:37 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Metabad The devs seem to consider familiarity to be important. Noting how characters like Falco, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, and even Mewtwo and Lucas are unchanged from their original self, I'm not really holding my breath for a Roy revamp. Unless they pull a fast one and turn him into an Ike clone. Which would probably be worse than leaving him as is.

I feel very much the opposite regarding Ryu's moveset. It practically writes itself.

B - Hadoken
Up B - Shoryuken
Smash B - Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
Down B - Maybe an Alpha Counter, Parry, or Focus Attack

For custom moves, there's the Shakunetsu Hadoken, Denjin Hadoken, Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpukyaku, and all of his EX moves from SF3 and 4. They could even pull some of the other shotos' moves if they really need to (Ken, Sakura, Gouken, Sean, etc.) His Final Smash could be Shinkuu Hadoken or even Shin Shoryuken.

As for fitting in... this IS the series that put Snake in the same game as Yoshi, Kirby, and Pikachu. Not to mention, Street Fighter has always had a very stylized and comic book-esque aesthetic. If we're talking Daigo's overly-beefy fishfaced Ryu (from SF3, 4, and 5), then yeah, I can see how he might look odd. But if we're talking classic, Street Fighter II Ryu, I think that'd be pretty okay.

http://www.noe-v.com/images/articles/bengus/bengus_ryu.jpg
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np2/char1/ryu-nxc-big.jpg
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/c/cb/Ryu-hdstance.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100718231721

I think Little Mac is actually the best point of reference for this. Again, I'd like to point to Tatsunoko VS Capcom. I feel that game gives a pretty good idea of how Ryu would blend into a colourful and zany crossover mascot game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:47 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
While it's on my mind, I'd like to mention that Sakurai is actually a Street Fighter fan. He mentioned that back in the day, he was a big arcade game player and even won a local Street Fighter II tournament. So knowing that he likes the series, Ryu doesn't seem like too crazy an idea. It's actually kind of a no-brainer--he's practically the face of fighting games and has been in dozens of Capcom VS Whoever crossovers, so why not include him in the biggest crossover fighter of all?

If Ryu really does get added, I'm actually quite curious as to whether the idea to include him came from a Capcom suggestion or from Sakurai himself.
Metabad
said at 11:47 AM on Thu Apr 16 2015
@NCZ While yeah they are relatively unchanged (barring maybe a few different animations and such) I think the main reason they'd at least try to change up Roy a bit is because the game already has Lucina as their Marth clone, so having two would pretty much be redundant. (For the record I do agree that there are pretty much an over abundance of FE characters here already, but Roy's one of the few who I don't disagree with them adding him, whereas I feel Ike was only added because he was in the previous game and Lucina should've just been an alt costume for Marth at best.)

See, here's the thing that I find ridiculously out of place (aside from the style in general): in the original Street Fighter games you have all these complex button combinations to pull off moves whereas with Smash Bros., it's pretty much a non-traditional fighting game with simple, easy to pull off moves. So either way I figure he's just going to feel strange and unfamiliar in this game, add to that you're probably going to get a bunch of SF fanboys unfavourably comparing Smash Bros. to Street Fighter thanks to this. You're either going to have fans of the original game calling Ryu too simple and dumbed down in this game, or you're going to have Smash Bros. fans complaining about the complex moves in the original games. Either way it's going to feel jarring and I'm really not looking forward to any possible fanbase war here.

I'll give you Snake, but I always felt that his inclusion was more of a tongue-in-cheek thing, like they knew it was a stupidly awesome idea to include him in the game and they just completely had fun with it. (Although in retrospect, I'd have probably expected a Castlevania character like Simon Belmont to be included before I'd ever expect Snake, and I do think he'd be more at home in a Playstation fighting game, but we already have Raiden in Battle Royale, so...) I guess they could do the same with Ryu, but I dunno, I just looked at all those pictures and "Smash Bros." is pretty much the last thing that comes to mind when I look at them, even when I try to think about how they'd make him fit in, I feel like it broke my brain even trying to think about it when my friend first told me about this. I'd have to see him in action before I ever believe that he'd fit.

I mean we already pretty much have a Capcom representative in this game, having two of them as fighters just feels redundant. To me personally it'd feel just as out of place as say...Scorpion from Mortal Kombat in this game, [sarcasm mode]I mean he's a big name fighter, he has a move list already, he's been in Mortal Kombat vs. DC, so why not, right?[/sarcasm mode]

But yeah, I guess we'll have to wait and see if he gets included, or if he fits at all. I've said my piece on it and I think I've said enough about it, so I think it'd be for the best if I just stopped here. I'll just bow out and wait and see for myself how I'll feel about any of this whenever the heck it happens. In the meantime, I have Mewtwo to download and loads of other stuff to do.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:38 AM on Sat Apr 18 2015
@Metabad

You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize my problem isn't Roy himself. If this was Brawl, or if Robin was the only FE newcomer this time around, I don't really think I'd have an issue. The problem is Lucina. Obviously, she and Roy aren't exactly the same, but they more or less fill a similar niche of being a (near) 1:1 Marth clone without his tipper mechanic. If we got Roy but not Lucina, sure, I can live with that. If we got Lucina but not Roy, hey, that's cool. I'm just not sure exactly what ground is itching to be broken by having two of them.

At first I felt the same way about Dr. Mario, but the thing is, Mario and Luigi have evolved significantly and independently between now and Melee. By bringing back Doc almost totally unchanged from his Melee self, the three characters actually play very differently. So funnily enough, what was originally the cloniest clone in the entire series (conceptually speaking) became one of the more justified ones, simply by leaving him completely as is!

While Roy's not really my favourite FE character, I want to emphasize that my bemusement at his potential addition is more due to the fact that, at least in my mind, he's not really a particularly necessary or innovative addition to the roster. Just like Chrom. I know that Ike was only an offhanded mention of yours, but I feel he's a very justified addition to the series. Apart from Marth, he's the only character to have been THE main character of more than one Fire Emblem game. From a moveset perspective, he may be a swordsman but his slower and more brutal playstyle makes him a nice contrast to Marth. Also, what I think is interesting is that all the FE characters in SSB4 represent every FE game released between 2007 and 2014 (Radiant Dawn, the DS remakes, and Awakening), which is pretty cool. All in all, Ike is an a-okay addition in my book.

I do see your point regarding Ryu and the button inputs... on the other hand, I feel like that won't be too huge an issue. If they were to add a Tekken or Soulcalibur character, I would agree that those characters are so complex that they would absolutely be lost in translation. But Street Fighter movesets are relatively simplistic as it is. It's really just a matter of remapping, and if that's done well enough, it's easily adaptable. That's honestly really the key to being a good fighting game player - being able to adapt well to the different styles of each game. Seeing what they did with Mega Man makes me pretty confident that they can take liberties but still create a character who feels faithful to his original self.

Ultimately though, how well Ryu fits in visually is pretty subjective. So that's pretty much all up to the individual. I'll actually freely admit that in spite of Street Fighter being my personal favourite Capcom series, I knew from the start that Smash would go with Mega Man first. After that I'd thought Phoenix Wright, Viewtiful Joe, or even Leon S. Kennedy would be next in line. Ryu seemed like more of a longshot for various reasons.

As far as multiple representatives from companies go, I have no problem with it personally as long as they're iconic enough and they don't go overboard. Snake and Simon Belmont? That'd be cool. Pac-Man and Klonoa (bit more of a pipe dream)? That'd be great. If Ryu really did get added, I would be surprised that Capcom would get a second character before Sonic, though.

Now, Scorpion, THERE'S a character who wouldn't fit in at all. (Probably doesn't help that Mortal Kombat has next to 0 presence in Japan.)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:43 AM on Sat Apr 18 2015
To add since I forgot to mention, it also probably doesn't help that Roy will probably cost real money on top of the game itself. On one hand I like having a complete game, but Roy's not really the kind of character I would pay for. If they bundled him with Lucas or some extra stages though, then yeah, I'd probably bite.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:26 AM on Tue May 12 2015
@NCZ Dude i explained it before and i'll say it again, there no need for another character that were also in part of *Insert 3rd party franchise here* because it would literally defeat the purpose of having 2-3 guest characters in Super Smash Bros. only. That's just it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:34 AM on Tue May 12 2015
@SteelEthlan The point isn't that there's an arbitrary limit to how many third-parties there should be, the point is that the number of third-parties should be proportional to the number of actual Nintendo characters.

Say Ryu gets added and gives us 4 third parties. If there were 4 non-Nintendo characters in the N64 game, they'd make up 33% of the roster. That's excessive. This game has nearly 60 characters. 4 third-party characters wouldn't even be 7% of the roster. As long as that percentage remains low and they stick only to truly iconic characters, I don't see the problem.
Game Over
said at 7:30 PM on Sat Jun 6 2015
@NCZ First off, Hi. I'm new here. and I really wanted to join in on the conversation.

I love that some people speculate that Ruy will be announced at E3 and that Capcom might announce a nintendo characer for the next streetfighter at the same time. of course this is all speculation.

And about Roy, Last I heard he was one of the most pined for characters in Japan.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:15 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
 1 Shout Out!
The big question on everyone's minds... "Who voices Mewtwo?"

Is it Masachika Ichimura? Jay Goede? Dan Green? ...Miriam Pultro?

The answer is...

none of the above!

http://i.imgur.com/7j3U2uR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l2FH8xE.jpg

Mewtwo is voiced by (drumroll drumroll) Keiji Fujiwara.
VaisuKaguya
said at 4:17 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
That was unexpected. He does a good Masachika impression tho.
Cartoonguy133
said at 9:36 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ He also voiced Maxie in the anime.
SteelEthlan
said at 10:06 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ I didn't expect to see Keiji is doing his take on mewtwo and i gotta say he does a solid impression of mewtwo for me.
Metabad
said at 7:57 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ That's odd, I actually heard they just used the Melee voice clips, I did hear from one of my other friends that they altered some of the clips a bit. But then again, the credits are right there, so...
Metabad
said at 7:59 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Metabad Anyways, I'm a bit sad that Jay Goede didn't get to come back, but I'm sure this new guy will do a great job.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:14 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@Metabad For reference, these are Mewtwo's voice clips in the game.

https://youtu.be/vxvlOR47HzY?t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnf9_HxYYjc

And his Melee clips, for comparison's sake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR_G08HZAFk

Fujiwara sounds smoother than Ichimura, but they are quite similar. The laugh is probably the most obvious difference.

(I haven't uploaded the clips yet as I am waiting for clean gamerips from the Japanese game - just like in Melee, Mewtwo has additional dialogue that was removed from the international versions)
DravenRoth994
said at 11:21 PM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@NCZ Maes Hughes is Mewtwo?! I wasn't expecting that!! I'm really liking him going by the clips!!! He sounds pretty similar to Masachika. It kind of sucks that some of his dialogue was removed in the international releases.
Metabad
said at 11:17 AM on Thu Apr 16 2015
@NCZ Yeah, as it turns out, Fujiwara just does such a good job at replacing Ichimura that he had all my friends fooled that they were actually reused Melee clips. I did notice a slight difference, (the new voice isn't quite as deep and guttural) but it's really hard to tell if you're not actively looking for it or comparing the two side by side. He's pretty seamless otherwise.
VaisuKaguya
said at 3:47 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
 1 Shout Out!
Mewtwo still sounds like Masachika Ichimura tho definitely not the Melee clips. The scream at 2:21 is especially different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hx2y_YeCps
SteelEthlan
said at 10:05 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@VaisuKaguya That's what i heard he sounds almost like Masachika's voice of mewtwo.
VGAfanatic
said at 4:27 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
They really need to update Marth with Yuri Lowenthal (Code Name STEAM) as his English voice. They just HAVE to! I will not accept that they dropped the ball this big by recycling Hikaru Midorikawa's audio AGAIN instead of doing something new now that Marth has had international releases. It's BS!
SteelEthlan
said at 6:51 AM on Wed Apr 15 2015
@VGAfanatic I'm afraid that it's too late to use the clips from Marth in Code Name: S.T.E.A.M because:

A) They didn't look over the clips Marth has in Code Name: S.T.E.A.M because he was voiced by Yuri Lowenthal himself.

B) Other than that, i'm totally right with you i'm totally disappointed that they didn't have any english voice actors for marth in Super Smash Bros. U and 3DS (Bout to call that for the lack of subtitle) either like Yuri or Spike.

& C) Maybe they might as well put either of these voice clips as part of the updates but it's some sort of stretch for me.

I said clips, marth and code name: s.t.e.a.m twice i know. But i don't care.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:20 AM on Thu Apr 2 2015
 2 Shout Outs!
Mewtwo is looking good. I'm so glad they used the Strikes Back tagline as well.

It's good to see Lucas as well. Let's hope we get more good choices for DLC.
SteelEthlan
said at 1:32 PM on Sat Apr 4 2015
@Nightmare Crusher There is in fact a voting petition for the DLC characters we can type to vote. Ever heard of "Super Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot?"
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:35 PM on Sat Apr 4 2015
@Nightmare Crusher There's one character I'd give my soul to be in Smash, and I implore everyone to vote for them.

http://i.imgur.com/rPNKbxx.png

"Team! Unite up!"
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:05 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
 4 Shout Outs!
LUCAS
LUCAS
LUCAS

I'M CRYING

HE'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OOHHHHH MMMMYYYHYY GGOGOGOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
VaisuKaguya
said at 4:19 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
I thought it was a joke when my brother told me since it's April Fools but the trailer said otherwise. Happy my Brawl main is back.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:55 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
@NCZ Same here man, i thought he'll be excluded from the DLC line up, but boy this right here shows that mewtwo is not the only DLC character that were available.

Speaking of mewtwo, he strikes back in the battlefield. Both figuratively and literally.

You know what that means? There is now a possibility that which characters should've been in smash long ago.
Axem Red
said at 6:19 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
@NCZ It also gives me more hope that Wolf will return as DLC.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:36 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
@Axem Red Oh, absolutely. I wouldn't even be surprised if Wolf is already in the works and he's coming in autumn or something. He was one of my favourites in Brawl and if he were to be added, the roster would effectively be complete in my mind.
Aussieroth
said at 9:46 PM on Wed Apr 1 2015
@NCZ Unless Solid Snake decides to return with Raiden and Meryl.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:33 AM on Thu Apr 2 2015
@Aussieroth That's probably not happening.
VGAfanatic
said at 4:30 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@NCZ I have a feeling they're preparing Wolf, too. I bet he'll get a trailer alongside a release date and price for Lucas during their E3 Livestream. I mean, Lucas turned out to be a surprise, so I think it's only natural Wolf should follow suit.

Speaking of Mewtwo, REALLY hoping they get Jay Goede back to record for Mewtwo. If they use the alias Phillip Bartlett for him, all the better. =)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:49 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@VGAfanatic Yup. Out of all the Brawl veterans, most of the cuts were understandable as they all had some kind of obstacle including them.

Ice Climbers - Caused technical problems of some sort on the 3DS version.

Squirtle, Ivysaur - Similar to Ice Climbers--although unconfirmed, it seems pretty obvious that transforming characters were removed due to 3DS limitations, and they figured Charizard was the only one worth bringing back.

Snake - Not a Nintendo character, and it's been stated that the number of third-party characters in the game will be limited in order to preserve the game's essence as a Nintendo crossover. Not to mention, Metal Gear has always been more closely associated with Playstation than Nintendo. While he made a great addition to Brawl and his absence this time around is definitely disappointing, there always has been the sense that Snake was included more as a favour to Kojima (due to his friendship with Sakurai) than anything else. And now Kojima's not even with Konami anymore, so there's that.

Wolf is a unique fighter, popular, a veteran, owned by Nintendo, wouldn't cause any technical issues, and would help promote the new Star Fox game. There's no reason not to bring him back and I can definitely see his announcement happening at E3.

As for Mewtwo, I definitely think Masachika Ichimura will be back but I'm not sure if he'll have an English VA. SSB4 took a very pragmatic approach to recording new dialogue, and so I can see the developers going, "Well, he already has some perfectly usable clips from Melee, and we don't really need to record anything new, so let's just use those again." And then there's Marth, who's still undubbed despite his game being released outside Japan by now. It can go either way but I'm not going to hold my breath. We'll know in three days, at any rate.
VaisuKaguya
said at 7:32 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@NCZ
Main reason for Pokemon being dubbed is if they have different names to say (Greninja/Gekkouga, Jigglypuff/Purin, Squirtle/Zenigame, Ivysaur/Fushigisou). Charizard only roars, hence why it wasn't dubbed.

Lucario has the same name in both languages but it talks like anyone else so naturally he'd be dubbed. I think he was redubbed in English cause of his different line for his new final smash and cause Sean was actually available this time.

So unless Mewtwo actually talks this time I see no reason it'd be dubbed. But that's just me.
VaisuKaguya
said at 7:35 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
Charizard/Lizardon*
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:31 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@VaisuKaguya Mewtwo actually did have spoken dialogue in the Japanese version of Melee. He said some stuff in Japanese during his victory poses. In the international versions they left Mewtwo undubbed, but took those lines out. Fox and Falco had the same thing happen to them.

I wouldn't be surprised if they take that route again for this game.
VaisuKaguya
said at 8:43 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@NCZ Oh, didn't know that.

Actually I always found it amusing how Fox's taunt was changed to "Come on!" in English but still voiced by Satouchi.

But yeah I don't really see Mewtwo being dubbed. They'll probably just reuse the Melee clips too, not that I mind.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:05 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@VaisuKaguya If you have an NTSC copy of Melee, you can actually change the language to Japanese in-game and then you get to hear the extra voice clips. That's how I found out about that little tidbit originally. Hopefully you can navigate the menus though.

IIRC in the Japanese version, Fox has two taunts. He can say either, "Come on!" (which was used internationally) or "Kakatte koi!" ...which is Japanese for "Come on!" Falco also has two taunts instead of the "Heh" noise he makes in English.

I was kind of disappointed that SSBU doesn't have a Japanese language toggle, but I guess there's only so much space on the disc. It was fun to fool around and discover cool little oddities and versional differences like that. You can change the Wii U system language manually, which will affect the game, but Japanese isn't an option unless the console itself is a Japanese one. I've played some of the game in French and it is a pretty interesting experience. Dedede is called "Roi Dadidou".
VaisuKaguya
said at 9:16 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
When I did play Melee I liked mixing between the languages, I just never played Mewtwo lmao.

I don't recall Fox saying "Come on!" with the Japanese setting but it's been a while.

I didn't care that Brawl had no Japanese setting cause the English stuff was pretty good, but a lotta the new voices in Smash U were pretty meh (The Star Fox ones were awful) and it has 2 of my favorite VAs (Miyuki Sawashiro and Yu Kobayashi) so I pretty much had no choice but to go out of my way to import a Wii U with the Japanese version of the game (Thankfully I didn't have a Wii U already). Needless to say it was well worth it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:26 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
@VaisuKaguya Wow, you've got a Japanese Wii U? Looks like someone gets to play Xenoblade Chronicles X before I do... you could be right about Fox, though. It's been a scary amount of time since I played with the languages in Melee.

Wait, you're the one who provided me with the Pokemon voice info, right? (I'm bad with names. I'm sorry if I forgot.)

The magnitude of dual audio's absence from this and Brawl only really hit me when I was getting the sound clips for all the player characters. I got to Pit's voices and realized that, despite Uprising being my favourite 3DS game ever, I had never once heard Minami Takayama's performance as him. Even though it's been three years, Uprising is still my favourite 3DS game to this day, so realizing that made me feel pretty ashamed.
VaisuKaguya
said at 9:38 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
Yeah that was me lol. No one ever uses the sound test, let alone probably being aware it has the VA credits next to each character, so I doubt that info woulda been brought to light otherwise.

But yeah it was kinda weird hearing some of the seiyuu for characters I was so use to hearing in English (Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, etc) but they're all really good.

I only watched a playthrough of Uprising (no 3DS :
VaisuKaguya
said at 9:41 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
Gah, why was this cut off.

I only watched a playthrough of Uprising (no 3DS :
VaisuKaguya
said at 9:43 PM on Sat Apr 11 2015
Okay is there a reason I only see part of this paragraph?
SonikkuAensland
said at 4:48 PM on Sat Feb 28 2015
 1 Shout Out!
This game is pretty cool, I bought both version and both are good on their own.

Probably the greatest surprise for me was the announcer, he did a very good job in this game. To the point that he became my overall favorite in the four (five) games.

BTW my Mains are Sonic and Lucina. But the most impressive and shocking inclusion for me? Duck Hunt!
Aelvir
said at 6:12 PM on Sat Jan 17 2015
I always hate the fact they put in toon link and not Toon Ganondorf, honestly. I want at least Nagasako back T.T
Hironori Miyata (Tingle) voices TP Ganondorf and his voice is so inappropriate (ie.: compare the warlock punch from melee to brawl and you'll see what i mean. The very fact they replaced Nagasako with Miyata is idiotic. It made sense on why they changed LINK's voice in that game, because it wasn't the same link from OoT, but even IN-GAME, they said Ganondorf in TP was the SAME Ganondorf from both OoT AND Wind Waker), it hurts! Tbh, though, Nagasako has BARELY been in ANYTHING for years (he barely even has a couple voice roles a year, said voice roles mostly aren't even able to be heard in america, by being japanese dub exclusive or a japanese-region only game).
I never really have much of a problem with Sasanuma as Link but would love to have OOT Link with Hiyama voicing him again. The fact they give a Fierce Deity Link outfit recolor for link's outfit and it still has sasanuma voicing him for said outfit is idiotic.

Also the fact that Donkey Kong isn't played by Nagasako is really dumb. Who needs a voice for an actual character when you have generic ape sounds >.>'

going with Sarge Ray's comment by the way, it is very understandable, but when it comes to Fox's voice, I preferred his Melee! voice (Steve Malpass, according to this site). But then again I don't play much Starfox games, so chances are my opinion might change over time >.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:53 PM on Sat Jan 17 2015
@Aelvir Yeah it could've have more reps for toon link but after that i just accepted it and move on.

Also, i can see where you are getting at but at the same time i got used to his reused voice that i didn't care.

Also, i am totally with you man i too seriously do not get why didn't they get the voice actors to do the voices for Donkey Kong, Bowser and Diddy while bowser jr. and yoshi had that is just bugs me.

But i digress we just have to get used to it which i am right now.
SteelEthlan
said at 3:35 PM on Sat Jan 24 2015
@SteelEthlan Also, I rather have Vaati as part of villain variety.
Sarge Ray
said at 5:25 PM on Mon Dec 29 2014
 6 Shout Outs!
So many Star Fox fans wanted Mike West back as Fox McCloud...but THIS is the performance they get. WOW, it's so unintentionally-funny that it's almost insulting. It was okay in 64 3D because its corniness was somewhat-enjoyable and a transfer from an older time. But in a hi-speed ACTION GAME like Smash Bros...it's really out of place.

Falco isn't much better, honestly. While Fox sounds too goofy, Falco sounds so...bored. I typically see Falco as smug, cocky, and short-tempered, but here he feels like none of that.

It's the worst of both extremes: one's trying too hard, the other's not trying hard enough.
SteelEthlan
said at 3:18 PM on Tue Dec 30 2014
@Sarge Ray Only because they've been voicing their respective characters in a recent star fox game (Ergo, the remake of Star Fox 64).

And the word out of place is bit of an understatement it feels like they could've done alot better.

But hey it's understandable.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:07 PM on Fri Dec 26 2014
You know what since there's nothing else to think of a subtitles for each versions i'm going to call it right now:

Super Smash Bros. 3D (For 3DS) (Think like Ocarina of Time 3D and others i think it had the subtitle 3D in it.)

& Super Smash Bros. U (For Wii U) (It's like the new title that the New Super Mario Bros. has which it's called U so why not?)

That's what it should've been officially called if there's no option in my opinion.
SephiVA
said at 12:18 PM on Sat Dec 13 2014
Who voiced Krystal for the Easter egg on the Starfox stage Lylat Cruise?


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWOttZmHhcA


Was it the same woman as Star Fox Assault? I'm partially curious because they largely used the voices from 64 but Krystal wasn't in that one.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:26 PM on Sat Dec 13 2014
@SephiVA The Smash Taunts on Corneria and Lylat Cruise were taken from Melee and Brawl completely untouched. It's Alesia Glidewell. Likewise the old recordings of Jim Walker, Dex Manley, Jay Ward etc. are used for the other characters.

They're not on the page because, as mentioned, they're taken straight from Melee/Brawl and already covered on those pages. Including them again would be redundant and confusing.
SteelEthlan
said at 11:38 AM on Sun Dec 14 2014
@SephiVA To answer your question it's alesia glidewell she is also known for voicing samus and knuckles.

Oh i supposed that you are new here.
SteelEthlan
said at 11:44 AM on Sun Dec 14 2014
@SteelEthlan Gosh freaking dang it! I mean't knuckle joe! Argh! I seriously did that again!

Sorry i got mad for a moment.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:58 PM on Fri Nov 28 2014
Time to set the record straight!*

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJZrmEFzD9U

I was browsing Ginny McSwain's website and saw that she directed the Kid Icarus characters in the game. Decided to shoot her an email so I could get some confirmations straight from the source. Awesomely enough, she responded the very next day (i.e. today)!

http://i.imgur.com/P3Sw9Rs.png

Badaboom, badabing! Hynden Walch and Antony Del Rio did indeed return (uncredited). The other Kid Icarus characters were replaced.

Once again, I want to apologize for Julie Parker's miscredit. Luckily, this official confirmation should get everything sorted just in time for the EU release.

While I will gladly eat crow regarding the erroneous information, (cough cough) one out of 100+ is pretty good if you ask me! ...please put down your torches and pitchforks.

(I still have zero clue who Teiyu Ichiryusai and Julie Parker voice.)
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:14 PM on Fri Nov 28 2014
@NCZ That's one mystery solved at least. I suppose now is a good time as any to reveal that I tried contacting Julie Parker with the email address on this website. http://jmpvoices.com/contact/
I never got a response, and I'm not even sure if that email is still in use, but I tried.
Kirbopher
said at 12:39 AM on Fri Dec 12 2014
@NCZ Thanks very much for clearing that up; sorry for the animosity before.

Fun fact: Xander Mobus has been taking one-on-one classes from Ginny since he moved to California and is really enjoying working with her.
Kirbopher
said at 7:54 PM on Fri Nov 21 2014
Spoke with Tom Wayland today; he voiced Keldeo in this game and Mikey Liscio did Inkay.

Still no connections yet to be seen on the other Star Fox actors and "Julie Parker" in the credits of the 3DS game. The Wii U credits are different, so the Star Fox actors are definitely not leftovers, and Julie Parker's already been proven to not be related to Viridi. My only thought is we might be in for downloadable stages on the 3DS.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:59 PM on Fri Nov 21 2014
@Kirbopher The only difference between the Wii U and 3DS credits is the "stage-related" characters, otherwise they're identical (i.e. Fighter, Fighter-Related, Assist, and Pokemon listings are the same)

The extra Star Fox VAs appear to be for the Smash Taunt on Lylat Cruise

The result is that the Wii U has "useless" credits for the Corneria smash taunt and the 3DS has "useless" credits for the Lylat Cruise smash taunt
Dogman15
said at 4:40 PM on Sat Nov 22 2014
@Kirbopher I know we still have no way of being sure, but after listening to Viridi's spoken lines in the Wii U game, I have to say her voice sounds an awful lot like Hynden Walch. It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo was willing to pay her to come back, unlike the other Kid Icarus characters less important to this game.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:54 AM on Mon Nov 24 2014
@Kirbopher The DLC theory isn't without problems. There's the obvious question of, if they planned all this in advance then where's Mewtwo? There's also the much bigger problem of this.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-we-have-no-smash-bros-premium-dlc-plans-b/1100-6423752/
If they really have no plans for DLC yet then there's no way they already recorded voice acting far enough in advance to be in the credits of the regular game.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:34 AM on Tue Nov 25 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Or they could just use the patch that after the new voices were recorded they should replace the ones that were currently reused.

That may work right?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:11 PM on Tue Nov 25 2014
@SteelEthlan If they didn't rerecord voices the first time around, I don't think they're going to shell out money, time, and resources to do it in a patch. Logistically speaking it's low-priority and not worth the effort compared to things that have a direct impact on gameplay.
SteelEthlan
said at 1:12 PM on Wed Dec 10 2014
@NCZ Aw good point.
SteelEthlan
said at 10:10 AM on Fri Nov 21 2014
It's out now guys and i'll give thoughts on this after I'll get wii u and 3ds for each versions.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:07 AM on Thu Nov 20 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Only one more day till the retail version comes out I can really feeling it!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:33 PM on Wed Nov 12 2014
Here's the video of the Smash Taunt on Orbital Gate, the new Star Fox stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfeIHze8wI

The only characters who appear, curiously enough, are Peppy, Slippy, and ROB-64.

Jaz Adams, Lyssa Browne, and Dex Manley (?) seem to be voicing them specifically.

The other rogue Star Fox actors (Mahito Oba, Tetsu Inada, Shinobu Satochi*, and Jay Ward) seem to be leftovers stemming from Lylat Cruise's presence as a past stage. Their Brawl clips are reused--nothing new was recorded for them.

*Shinobu Satochi also voices Japanese Fox on Corneria and Japanese Dr. Wright, but as both of these roles are dubbed over in the English version he's not present in those credits.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:48 PM on Wed Nov 12 2014
@NCZ And I thought the direction for Palutena's Guidance was off. Mike, Lyssa and Jaz sound really off compared to how they were in 3D. I think Falco is great though.
Dogman15
said at 4:03 AM on Thu Nov 13 2014
What I don't like is that this is recreating and referencing a scene from Star Fox: Assault, and they have Lyssa Browne doing Slippy's voice, even though she's supposed to be Slippy when he was 18 during the Lylat Wars. Mike McAuliffe is supposed to be Slippy's voice at age 27, when the Aparoid Invasion takes place.

tl;dr - They got the wrong voice for the time period being depicted.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:24 AM on Thu Nov 13 2014
@Dogman15 The weird thing is that in the Japanese version, all the characters still have their Assault voices. It's only in English that they made the switch to the 64 3D actors.

The even weirder part is that regardless of language, all the characters are based on their Command designs. Oy...
Dogman15
said at 8:41 PM on Thu Nov 13 2014
@NCZ I wish Nintendo would care just a little bit more about Star Fox. They did a great job visually with Orbital Gate Assault, and the actors are trying their best, but I can't help but imagine Lyssa was thinking to herself while she recorded "Why did they ask *me* to do this?".
Metabad
said at 7:41 AM on Sat Nov 15 2014
@Dogman15 To be honest, I think you're reading too much into this. I really don't think Lyssa would question why she got the role, especially since she's already played Slippy before, I don't see why she'd have a problem with reprising the role at all. Maybe she wondered why his design looked so different, but that's about all I can see her questioning.
rosebr10
said at 11:55 AM on Fri Nov 21 2014
@NCZ
GLORIOUS FANFICTION!!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:25 AM on Sat Nov 8 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
I've been watching some of the Palutena's guidance things and it's really nice to get some new Uprising style banter. That said, I can tell that the direction is not as good as Uprising's. Viridi in particular doesn't sound quite right to me.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:51 AM on Sun Nov 9 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Same here i get that Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U is Non-Union for any voice actors so why didn't they bring back any of these voice casts from Kid Icarus Uprising while they brought Antony Del Rio as uncredited is so beyond me.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:51 AM on Sun Nov 9 2014
@SteelEthlan Viridi sounds like Hynden Walch in the guidance videos, though she doesn't seem to be credited either.
VGAfanatic
said at 6:48 PM on Fri Nov 14 2014
@SteelEthlan Eh, the voice acting is really good, and it does recreate the Kid Icarus Uprising dialogue very well, so I'm okay with it. Plus, they did actually use Matthew Mercer for Chrom's appearance in it.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:46 AM on Tue Nov 25 2014
@VGAfanatic Yeah i guess you're right. By the way, have you gotten Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:27 AM on Fri Oct 31 2014
 1 Shout Out!
PAL players, you're in luck, SSB U's release date's been bumped up a week to November 28 in Europe and November 29 in Australia/New Zealand!

https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/528124243695771648
https://www.facebook.com/NintendoAUNZ/photos/a.292223797601427.1073741828.285708024919671/393244870832652/?type=1
Fulgore2005
said at 3:19 PM on Fri Oct 31 2014
@NCZ Awesome, I don't have to wait until December to get my copy in the mail.
starfoxwario
said at 10:32 PM on Sat Oct 25 2014
What's Wolf's role in ssb4? How does he have a voice?
Cartoonguy133
said at 12:10 AM on Sun Oct 26 2014
@starfoxwario He might be part of a Smash Taunt in Orbital Gate.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:43 AM on Sun Oct 26 2014
@Cartoonguy133 This, most likely.

When I filled out the page at the Japanese launch last month, I saw Mahito Oba and a few other Star Fox voice actors in the credits (Kyoko Tongu, Tomohisa Aso, Shinobu Satochi, and Tetsu Inada, all listed in the "Fighter Related" group). I had an image of Wolf handy since someone on NeoGAF took a photo of his trophy, so I figured that even though I wasn't sure what specifically his role in the game was (since it had only just come out, naturally), I might as well add him to the page and then come back for the other Star Fox NPCs once they'd been sighted.

He doesn't seem to have dialogue in the 3DS version, alas. But the latest Direct confirmed that there is a Smash Taunt on Orbital Gate with new dialogue (Lyssa Browne is definitely back as Slippy, for instance) so it seems likely that Wolf and the other Star Fox NPCs will show up there.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:24 AM on Sat Oct 25 2014
After playing the 3DS version for some time, I have to say my favorite character is....still Luigi!!! But I have to say, Robin and Pac-Man are also a lot of fun to use. Zero Suit Samus a freaking powerhouse in this version. Little Mac is certainly one as well (maybe a little TOO much). Everyone got some much needed upgrades!!! However, while it's always nice to hear Laura Bailey, and I'm aware she originally was not meant to get her own slot, I'm disappointed that Lucina is just a Marth clone.
VGAfanatic
said at 6:49 PM on Fri Nov 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 It's not as disappointing as Dark Pit, that's for sure.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:41 PM on Fri Nov 14 2014
@VGAfanatic Yeah, I'll give you that one!! I would say at least he has a unique final smash, if it wasn't a carbon copy of ZELDAS!!!
DravenRoth994
said at 6:16 PM on Tue Nov 18 2014
@DravenRoth994 Geez!! Not only is Lucina a Marth clone, they share the SAME CUSTOM MOVES!!! I was at least hoping those would be different, but I guess not. :/
DravenRoth994
said at 8:46 AM on Sat Oct 25 2014
Just got done watching the 50 Fact Extravaganza, the Wii U version is going to be EPIC!!!! I do wish Luigi's Mansion was on the 3DS version. There was a sequel released for it after all. A bit of a missed opportunity if you ask me. Still, I'm glad it will be back. Too bad I might have to wait until Christmas to get it. At least I still have the 3DS version.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:05 AM on Sat Oct 25 2014
@DravenRoth994 Yeah, the stage selection is probably my biggest overall issue with the 3DS version. Kind of underwhelming; there were a lot of missed opportunities for game representation (Mario VS Donkey Kong? Metroid Fusion? Luigi's Mansion 2? Link's Awakening? Grumble grumble...). And as I mentioned before, toooo many Brawl/Melee stages. No new stages for DK, Metroid, Star Fox, or Sonic is a bit of a headscratcher.

The Wii U version though... holy crap! A Donkey Kong Country Returns stage? Mario Kart 8 stage? The Great Cave Offensive from Kirby Super Star? Star Fox Assault, Yoshi's Woolly World, Wrecking Crew!? HNNNNGGGG


And don't even get me started on things like 8-player battle mode... I think I may have to watch the Extravaganza again just to really absorb how amazing the Wii U version will be. Oh man... stuff like this is why I love Smash. Every time you think the excitement is over, things like this and the Mewtwo DLC announcement happen.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:45 AM on Sat Oct 25 2014
@NCZ I agree completely, the stage selection is really disappointing, but the Wii U stages are coming along nicely. Looking forward to it!
starwolf95
said at 12:14 PM on Mon Nov 10 2014
@DravenRoth994 Yeah, I'm really impressed with the Stage selections on the Wii-U Version. We have EIGHTEEN Past Stages returning, EIGHTEEN!!! My only complaint there is that I wanted a few more Melee Stages to return, instead we have FOURTEEN Brawl Stages. :-
CyberLink420
said at 10:10 AM on Fri Oct 24 2014
 1 Shout Out!
At last, an explanation for the multiple Star Fox actors:

The "50 Facts" video confirmed both that Lylat Cruise is coming back for Wii U, and that Orbital Gate Assault will feature secret taunts like the past Star Fox stages. This explains both the presence of the Assault VAs (including Wolf) and the 64 3D actors whose characters don't appear in the 3DS version. (Notably, Peppy and Slippy appeared in the footage, sounding identical to 64 3D.)

If I had to guess, the 3DS version's credits just lumps the actors from both versions together into one, meaning that we'll likely see Steve Malpass, Chris Seavor, etc. credited in the Wii U version as well. It doesn't explain a few noticeable omissions, like Antony Del Rio as the Pits or Tim Watson as Metal Face, but it at least helps fill in the gaps a bit.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:19 AM on Fri Oct 24 2014
@CyberLink420 But that brings up the question of why Fox and Slippy's Assault voices aren't credited in Smash 3DS. Also, I'm thinking that Jay Ward might reprise Wolf if he appears in Orbital Gate since Jaz's voice really doesn't fit modern Wolf.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:06 AM on Fri Oct 24 2014
@CyberLink420 It's not really much of an explanation. As NC said, Jim Walker and Mike McAuliffe are absent from the 3DS. Metal Face's Japanese and English voices are from the respective credits even though the other Xenoblade characters' being listed means there's no reason to leave him off. And then this means Yayoi Jinguji would have to be credited on the Wii U despite the absence of Koume and Kotake.

The theory fills some gaps, but it introduces too many new ones. Let's just wait until we actually have access to the Wii U credits before drawing any conclusions.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:29 PM on Fri Oct 24 2014
@NCZ

I accidentally a word there. This should be "Metal Face's Japanese and English voices are missing from the respective credits".
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:21 AM on Sat Nov 8 2014
I've seen the Wii U credits due to press people getting copies and uploading videos.

The Wii U credits are seemingly identical to the 3DS version's except for the "stage element" section. Timothy Watson is the only name listed there.

So I guess the theory ended up being partially correct.
UltimateSSJ4GokouEX
said at 5:23 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
 1 Shout Out!
I'm really excited that Mewtwo is coming back! However, I do wonder who's gonna do Mewtwo's voice?
Dogman15
said at 6:57 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@UltimateSSJ4GokouEX If Japanese only, I'm hoping for Masachika Ichimura. But if he's English as well, I think Phillip Bartlett would be a better fit for Smash Brothers.
SpongeBat1
said at 8:43 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Dogman15 Too bad he's dead...
Dogman15
said at 8:49 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@SpongeBat1 Who, Ichimura? I hope it's not Mr. Bartlett that's dead.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:02 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@UltimateSSJ4GokouEX I reckon they should get David Kaye? Why? Because trust me I've heard him countless times that he'll give his materials and personality to other characters we are not familiar with by voicing.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:03 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Dogman15 Too late for that he's already dead not joking.
Metabad
said at 10:43 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@SteelEthlan @SpongeBat1 Honestly, the only sources I found on Phillip Bartlett's death are Wikipedia and IMDb, which aren't really reliable sources. I've searched everywhere for more resources a while back, and I couldn't find anything.

I'm not outright saying his death is impossible, but I've always been a little skeptical, especially since I have no clue where Wikipedia got their information for his cause of death.
Metabad
said at 10:44 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Metabad and most of the sources I find nowadays are just directly copy and pasted from the Wikipedia article.
Metabad
said at 10:46 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@UltimateSSJ4GokouEX If Phillip Bartlett being dead really is true, or if he's alive but otherwise unavailable, I think either Liam O'Brien or Matthew Yang King would be fantastic voices for Mewtwo.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:16 AM on Fri Oct 24 2014
@Metabad Jay Goede (VA from Pokemon Live) is still alive. He sounds a lot like "Philip Bartlett" too. So there's that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egHZKYCuqjU
rosebr10
said at 6:51 AM on Sun Oct 26 2014
@NCZ
He's a lot like Steve Brodie (so much so I can't think of one without the other). Brodie has two things "Bartlett" doesn't: an agency listing and an obituary.

Given the wiki article, some kind of obituary had to have been sourced, but the main issue is whether Bartlett is his real name. It could very well be that they searched outside NY for Mewtwo's voice, considering they went all the way out to London for Neil Stewart for the next movie.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:20 AM on Sun Oct 26 2014
@rosebr10 Obviously Steve Brodie is Philip Bartlett.

In any case, there is a Find-a-Grave profile for Philip Bartlett, but it seems to have been made using the unsourced "death" info as a reference.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=93730176

Beyond that, there's a lot of info about people named Philip Bartlett in the world, some of them are alive, some of them passed away. Never seen anything to prove they're the dude who voiced Mewtwo.

Has "Philip Bartlett" ever been credited for any other voice roles? I know in the forums, we had someone come along and claim that while NY-based voice actor Dick Rodstein is the same as "Alexander J. Rose" and a few other people, he firmly believed that Rodstein isn't the same as "Philip Bartlett". So now it seems that Mewtwo and a few other misc. Pokemon voices are his only known roles.

Anyway, I know that there's precedent for 4Kids hiring people who aren't typically voice actors for one-offs, particularly villains. In addition to Neil Stewart, there's Peter Cormican, a theatrical actor who (from my understanding) got the part of Erazor Djinn in Sonic and the Secret Rings because he was touring in New York at the time, or something along those lines. Pokemon was so huge during that period that it made sense that a few Broadway actors who don't normally do voice work wanted to get a piece of the action--but I guess not everyone was willing to use their real name for some reason (legal shenanigans? not wanting to be professionally associated with the material for career-related shenanigans?).

I just think it's uncanny how much Broadway actor Jay Goede, who voiced Mewtwo in the Pokemon musical (which featured Andrew Rannells and Darren Dunstan before they started doing stuff for 4Kids), sounds like Mewtwo's voice from the movie...
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:24 AM on Sun Oct 26 2014
@NCZ Something else notable is that Pokemon Live had Maddie Blaustein record dialogue for Meowth meaning that 4Kids probably had some involvement in the production. And Pokemon Puzzle League, which seems to have Philip reprising Mewtwo, came out at almost the exact same time as Pokemon Live. Thus they could have had Philip record for Pokemon Live.
rosebr10
said at 6:33 AM on Mon Oct 27 2014
@NCZ
I got in touch with the person who added Bartlett onto that site. He got his info specifically from imdb and also stated the following when asked if he had any personal ties with Bartlett, his friends or family:

"I never knew Philip, I just added him onto Find A Grave because I admired his role as Mewtwo."

Commencing aneurysm in 3, 2...
Grrafafsdsfsfssgsfr

(OK I'm back)

If you haven't already, check out Bartlett's page to see an image I took from one of the French films that are also listed on his imdb. I couldn't find anything in that film that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that that "Philip Bartlett" was our "Philip Bartlett," (no deep charismatic voice, I'm afraid) but at least there's a pic of one of at least one Bartlett floating around now.
Shiny Raticate
said at 3:54 PM on Mon Nov 10 2014
@UltimateSSJ4GokouEX
Dan Green could come back and voice Mewtwo, right? If the rumors that he's retired from voice acting are false...
Metabad
said at 5:09 PM on Wed Nov 12 2014
@SpongeBat1 Turns he didn't really die.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13970
Metabad
said at 5:09 PM on Wed Nov 12 2014
@SteelEthlan He's not actually dead as it turns out.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13970
Metabad
said at 5:10 PM on Wed Nov 12 2014
@Shiny Raticate Now that it's been proven that Philip Bartlett is really Jay Goede and is still alive and well, I really hope he comes back. I wasn't too into Dan Green in the role to be honest, although he would be better than Miriam.
SteelEthlan
said at 4:14 PM on Thu Nov 13 2014
@Metabad Wow I did not know that Jay Goede goes by his Alias Phillip Burret i honestly thought he's the actual person until this interview i was pretty wrong.
Metabad
said at 7:30 PM on Thu Nov 13 2014
@SteelEthlan Me neither, I was really surprised too. (In a good way.)
SteelEthlan
said at 7:30 AM on Sat Nov 15 2014
@Metabad Right...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:45 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
DLC CONFIRMED

LUCAS AND WOLF YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
DravenRoth994
said at 4:42 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@NCZ It's for both versions too. Once again, HELL YES!!!
SteelEthlan
said at 4:48 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@NCZ If they would seriously tweak and change their movesets pattern a little and give Wolf his Final Smash that should be Wolfen in First Person like Samus only with missiles this time and uh other things.

And as for Lucas, well I'm not sure but if it were sakurai and others i might've think his movesets should be changed in some parts.

So what did you think?
Dogman15
said at 6:55 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@NCZ The strange thing about Wolf is that his actor gets a credit in the 3DS version, and he's a trophy, but we never hear him speak, not even in the Smash Taunt on Corneria. Maybe they have something planned to be added to the 3DS version in the future, or the credits are identical in both games to make it easy, and Wolf *will* be in a Smash Taunt in the Wii U version.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:42 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
MEWTWO IS BACK! SERIOUSLY!
Metabad
said at 4:08 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Nightmare Crusher YES!

Oh my god I'm so happy.

It's a miracle. T_T
SteelEthlan
said at 4:31 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Aw yeah!
DravenRoth994
said at 4:39 PM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Ah, HELL YES!!!!
SteelEthlan
said at 6:20 AM on Sat Oct 25 2014
@SteelEthlan Finally it's about time!
Ross123
said at 9:17 AM on Thu Oct 23 2014
I still haven't got the 3DS version yet. Why you may ask? My birthday is next month and considering games nowadays don't go out of print so easily, I'll be getting it then.

My birthday is the day after the release of the Wii U version just for some fun trivia.
CuriousUserX90
said at 6:35 AM on Thu Oct 23 2014
SSB4 has been the Game we've awaited all year, and if the Game can Release the Same Week PAL and NA, it would be great, especially since it has WiFi. I'm sure we've all had Determination to take on the World, and our Miiverse Friends. I know that Sakurai would've worked as hard as he can on the game, to release prior to the Christmas Holidays.
CuriousUserX90
said at 6:38 AM on Thu Oct 23 2014
@CuriousUserX90 *Maybe I Should've Said in time, not Prior.

December is when People can be Busy getting ready for Christmas, and 6/12 is the Date of Iwata's Birthday.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:41 AM on Wed Oct 22 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Smash Wii U Direct coming tomorrow. Let's keep the hype train rolling.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:57 AM on Wed Oct 22 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Me right now:

http://i.imgur.com/IBkl1Yn.jpg
CuriousUserX90
said at 7:52 AM on Sun Oct 19 2014
Got the 3DS Version, nice playing, but sadly there's stuff to get through too fast, and I'm having Cons n Pros about it. This is the very first Smash Bros. game without stuff like A) an Opening, and B) Taunts Changed from the Previous Smash Bros. for the Veterans. The PAL Regions however are not feeling pleasant lately.
CuriousUserX90
said at 8:37 PM on Sun Oct 19 2014
@CuriousUserX90 What I'm saying is, it's not Fair that the PAL Regions don't get the Wii U Version same week as North America, or for Amiibo to release beforehand. I'm Petitioning it to Change: https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-of-europe-release-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-the-same-week-as-north-america-in-europe-and-oceania
:PAL Gamers, feel free to sign it (this is serious, I have some signers already). SEGA listened to people's desire to change the Release Date for Sonic Boom: RL to the same day as SC, so Nintendo should too.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:17 PM on Sun Oct 19 2014
@CuriousUserX90 I hate to burst your bubble, but to put it bluntly, that petition's not going anywhere.

First off, North America is actually the only region that's getting Smash U (Wii Will Smash U?) in late November rather than early December. The reason for this is Black Friday, the biggest and busiest shopping day of the year. Nintendo want to sell Smash Bros games, they want to sell amiibos, and most importantly, they want to sell Wii Us. So it's absolutely critical for them that Smash Bros. is available in North America in time for Black Friday.

Black Friday doesn't exist in other regions, so there Ninty are free to release it whenever they want. Nintendo know what they're doing. They've chosen the release dates deliberately and strategically in order to ensure maximum profit. They do so by spacing the release date strategically to capitalize on the holiday shopping season, and have it in an empty window free of competition. Compared to November, which is jam-packed with new releases, December is a very quiet month. So that means that in PAL regions and Japan, Smash Bros. is guaranteed to be "the hottest game on the shelf" in time for the all-important Christmas shopping season. Nintendo know what they're doing. There's a reason behind every release date, and a team full of experienced market analysts to provide that reason.

Also, the petition needs... 90 signatures. In the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot to make a big, multibillion company like Nintendo take it too seriously. Getting 100,000 might make them notice, but that's unlikely.

Finally... the difference is two weeks. Two weeks. Brawl came out in PAL five months after Japan. Shin Megami Tensei IV released last year in NA and Japan and is only just now being released in PAL after a year of silence. Back in the '90s several all-time classic games like Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger never even reached Europe at all, and due to technologically-related quirks the games that did reach PAL were much slower due to running in 50 HZ rather than 60 HZ. Hell, Australia is actually getting the New 3DS model before North America and Europe are! Two weeks is an absolutely trivial amount of time and you should be thankful the wait isn't staggered any more than that. If it's that big a deal, import a Wii U from NA.

And on your last bit, Sega's decision to bump up the Wii U Sonic Boom game had nothing to do with fan demand. It was to avoid competition with a number of other games that were coming out within the same timeframe. Its original release date, November 18th, was the same date as the hugely-anticipated Dragon Age 3, the PS4 and Xbone versions of GTAV, LittleBigPlanet 3, and Far Cry 4. Sega moved it up to reduce the risk of the game's sales getting massacred and allow it some breathing room.

Smash Bros. will sell regardless of when it comes out because it's a highly-anticipated AAA title that can hold its own against its fellow heavy-hitters. You just have to realize that not all markets are always the same, so Nintendo can and will have to determine release dates on a market-to-market basis, recognizing trends and patterns and using them to determine when is the most effective time to release a game. It just so happens that one market needs the game out a bit sooner. That's it.
Dustinman2012
said at 5:56 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
How did Wolf get a voice actor for the game? I thought he wasn't coming back.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:20 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@Dustinman2012 There's a very good chance that he'll show up for the special taunts on Orbital Gate in the Wii U version. I suspect that this is also why Jay Ward is credited in the English version.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:30 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@Dustinman2012 Wolf isn't playable but he has an NPC role. The following VAs are listed in the Japanese credits with the Fighter-Related NPCs:

Tomohisa Aso
Tetsu Inada
Mahito Oba
Shinobu Satochi
Kyoko Tongu

And these VAs are listed in the corresponding section of the English version:
Jaz Adams
Lyssa Browne
Dex Manley
Jay Ward

All of them have roles in Star Fox (Peppy, Slippy, Wolf, Leon, Panther).

So while it doesn't seem to have been discovered on 3DS yet... several Star Fox characters have voice actors listed in the credits. As NC said, they're most likely going to continue the Smash Taunt tradition for Fox and Falco on the new Star Fox Wii U stage.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:41 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@Dustinman2012 The answer is let's just say star wolf are probably fighting the a parodies in the background like it was in Lylat Cruise in Brawl.

And i'm pretty sure it hints that he would get a voice actor English and either Jay Ward or Jaz Adams would be back to reprise wolf and maybe he'll be DLC if his moveset should be exactly as it should be in brawl but tweak his running speed as the opposite arms and opposite legs kinda thing with the combination of wolf and human i don't know.

Maybe he should have the bayonet blaster on his left hand rather than right, an up b that consists on the claw and then ends with a kick kinda like pikachu's and greninja's only with more power, faster combo and some damage with lightning effects that it could be called lighting wolf (My made up special b name that could be really different from that if Fox's Fire Fox and Falco's "I'll get that ability listed later") and then have his final smash an Wolfen in first person to shoot a laser missile that not only hits opponents but also when contacting on ground it explodes and how long it would last taking notes on his version of the landmaster it would last shorter than fox's and falco's landmaster (Who's final smash needs to get changed minor differences don't help either).

Sorry if i jotted down the sentences long enough that's just what i'm getting at.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:49 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@NCZ What about Krystal? She can be both background and playable.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:56 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@SteelEthlan My personal belief is that Krystal will be playable the day Ridley is. Take that as you will.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:19 PM on Mon Oct 13 2014
@NCZ Oh ok i was just sure she is going to be playable and at the same time be contacted through the codec-like structure.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:26 AM on Tue Oct 14 2014
@SteelEthlan I think Krystal will probably be part of the codec because the new stage is based on Assault.

As for being playable... I feel like that ship's sailed, honestly. Adding her in Brawl would've made perfect sense--all three Star Fox games released between Melee and Brawl (Adventures, Assault, and Command) had her extremely prominently as one of the main characters. In a way you could say she was in the same spot as a character like Rosalina is now, being very popular and clearly being pushed heavily. But then she wasn't added to Brawl--Wolf was instead. And in the six years between Brawl and Smash 4, the only new Star Fox game was a remake of 64 where she was naturally AWOL. So the Star Fox series, and Krystal too, took a pretty big hit in popularity--it's pretty telling that this is the first Smash game where it didn't receive any new characters, instead having a net loss of 1.

So in that time, both Krystal's popularity and her position as a major character within a major series, have faded pretty noticeably. Unless Krystal and Star Fox experience a resurgence in popularity between now and Smash 5 (which it might if the new game A. has her in it and B. is successful), I don't think she'll make it into the series anytime soon.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:03 PM on Sat Oct 18 2014
@NCZ Ok that's where i'm getting at.

Well that literally sucks and i mean i know they didn't have enough time to make an original character with original moveset based on perspective games but i honestly think that they could've done more by adding new character for the semi-final time before they would add extras and better yet they could've adjustify lucina as a semi-clone and having a different final smash that could be a cinematic-esque and then end with a shining slash kinda attack.

And if they do want to make a new game for krystal i better hope they make a related game that it would be not star fox related i'm not sure how they would pull it off but it's just my suggestions.

Sorry for getting off topic that's just my suggestions.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:45 PM on Sun Oct 12 2014
Crediting the Sounds Resource for the clips:
http://www.sounds-resource.com/other_systems/supersmashbrosfornintendo3ds/

Please check them out, they're a fantastic site.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:15 PM on Sat Oct 11 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
I feel like giving my thoughts on the changed voices.

Lucario Bill Rogers to Sean Schemmel
Sean is admittedly strained sounding, however I feel he brings a certain intensity to Lucario that Bill Rogers lacked in my ears.

Fox Jim Walker to Mike West
What happened to Mike? He was just fine in 64 3D. In this he just sounds so dorky. His fire in particular almost makes him sound like he's holding his nose. It's just weird.

Falco Dex Manley to Mark Lund
Falco's Brawl voice never quite clicked with me. I felt like there was really nothing to it beyond an accent that never sounded right to me. Mark Lund just gets Falco's attitude much better even if his Final Smash quote is a bit lacking.

Pit Lani Minella to Antony Del Rio
What a breath of fresh air. Lani's Pit never sounded convincing to me, especially in hindsight compared to Uprising's excellent acting. And Antony is pretty great in this too.

Sonic Jason Griffith to Roger Craig Smith
I have no intention of hiding my dislike for Jason's Sonic. He always sounded like he was trying way too hard to sound "awesome" yet also strangely lacking in energy. Roger's voice feels naturally energetic and I'll take him any day.

So yeah, I think it's pretty good overall.
ConfusedPhantom
said at 4:06 PM on Fri Oct 10 2014
 1 Shout Out!
It's pretty disappointing that guys like Roger Craig Smith didn't get to record lines and that most of the lines were just carry overs from Brawl (agggh...we have a monotone Ike for another 5 years). But, I guess it wasn't in the budget. Most of the newly recorded stuff was good, though. Except Fox and Falco sadly...which bums me out since I really wanted Mike West to reprise Fox here. Xander did a great job with the Hands and the Narrator. Many congrats to him in landing the part. : )

But, yeah, as far as Smash 3DS goes, it may be my favorite in the series. The gameplay is really fun and addictive and the roster is mostly interesting. However...the 3DS is not a very good controller for it. lol But, yeah, can't wait for the Wii U version.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:20 PM on Fri Oct 10 2014
@ConfusedPhantom I actually really like Mark Lund's Falco. Agreed that the number of reused sound clips is disappointing though, and that Xander Mobus made for a pretty impressive announcer.

Can't help but wonder if when Smash 5 rolls around in 2020 (?), Marth and Falcon will still be using those Melee clips, haha.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:43 AM on Tue Oct 7 2014
 1 Shout Out!
It's official! Mark your calendars everyone!

Wii U version launching:

December 6 (Japan, Australia)
November 21 (North America)
December 5 (Europe)

http://www.smashbros.com/
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:17 AM on Sun Oct 5 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
I have to say, to be perfectly honest now that I've played it for a while, I do have rather mixed feelings about the 3DS version. Which I have to say I kind of expected.

I mean, on one hand, it's Smash Bros! It's incredibly addictive and I can't stop playing it because the core gameplay, the new Smash Run mode, and the characters are so awesome, and after playing Brawl for six and a half years (holy **** does time fly by), it's an incredible novelty to have a game that acknowledges all the developments in Nintendo's history since then. And customizing Mii Fighters is the closest thing we'll get to a Create-A-Character function, which is just great. I've got Reggie as a Brawler, Sakurai as a Swordsman, and Hideki Kamiya as a Dante-esque gunner! What more could you ask for?

On the other hand, I don't know if it's the simple fact that I'm playing on a handheld rather than a big-screen TV with a GameCube controller in hand, but something about the game feels kinda "restrictive" for lack of a better word. I definitely don't feel like I'm getting the full picture, the complete Smash Bros. experience. And the fact that around half the stage are recycled from Melee and Brawl is a bit of a buzzkill. For a 3DS game, it's incredible what Sakurai and his crew have done. Just as with Kid Icarus Uprising a couple years ago, they've poured a ton of love and energy into it, and I appreciate their work. It's just that, let's face it, handheld games are designed to be played in short, half-hour-average bursts rather than hours on end, and Smash 3DS has clearly been based around this design philosophy.

Which is why I remain ecstatic for the Wii U version. The way I see it, the 3DS version is an appetizer that complements the main course fantastically and is great for grabbing and snacking on in a rush, but by no means is it a replacement for a full, hearty meal.

By no means am I bashing the game. It's an excellent experience and anyone who has a 3DS, enjoys video games, or is too impatient to wait/money-strapped to afford a Wii U should definitely give it a look. I'm giving my criticisms purely constructively as someone who's loved Smash Bros and Nintendo for many years.

But yeah. At the end of the day, Smash 3DS is essentially Smash 4 Lite. It's what'll tide me over for the Wii U version. Which is what I expected going into it, really. It's great being able to play when I'm not at home, but the way I see it, Smash is a home console game first and foremost. Having it on a handheld with a much smaller screen and without being able to share a single TV with all your buddies on one couch, the "epic-seeming" home console feeling of Melee and Brawl is somewhat lost in translation. As a core game though, it's fantastic and will no doubt keep anyone who likes Smash Bros busy. It's just that I can tell the Wii U version will be so much better and more satisfying as a package. Even if Ganondorf is a Captain Falcon clone for the third game in a row.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 6:50 AM on Thu Oct 2 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Still disappointed about two things:
1.) Bowser still sounds like a generic monster creature
2.) Roger didn't record new dialog for Sonic; C'mon, who WOULDN'T love to hear him say "You're too slow!"?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:37 AM on Thu Oct 2 2014
@HyperVoiceActing I have to say, not having Kenny James makes no sense to me considering Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings do have their proper voices. Same for DK and Diddy.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 10:04 AM on Thu Oct 2 2014
@NCZ - Really, cause from what I heard it sounds like they recycled DK and Diddy's Brawl clips
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:37 AM on Thu Oct 2 2014
@HyperVoiceActing That's actually what I meant; now that I read it again, I realize that I worded it poorly. DK and Diddy are in the same boat as Bowser of not having their proper voices for some reason.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 1:11 PM on Thu Oct 2 2014
@NCZ - Oh I see. Sorry for misreading your statement. But I agree.
SteelEthlan
said at 10:44 AM on Sat Oct 4 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Same here and i honestly would've liked to hear some of these characters that never had a proper voice since their own past games:

#1: Donkey Kong (DK) newly voiced by: Dee Bradley Baker

#1.5: Donkey Kong (DK) normally voiced by: Takashi Nagasako

#2: Diddy Kong (DD) newly voiced by: Chris Sanders

#2.5: Diddy Kong (DD) normally voiced By: Katsumi Suzuki

And these old and new lines for Sonic in Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U that should've been picked up and then have Roger Craig Smith read and record this lines i gotten a single thought of:

Line #1: Come on step it up!

Line #2: You're too slow!

Line #3: Now i'll show you super sonic power! Hrrraaahhhh!

And others that i may think that speak for itself.

Maybe once the Wii U version is done they should really consider thinking about patch updates and DLC for not just characters but stages and voices themselves if done carefully like they did with Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:55 AM on Sun Oct 5 2014
@SteelEthlan Oh and one more thing about little mac's voice actor:

#3: Little Mac voiced by: Matt Harty.

That too is a missed opportunity.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:42 AM on Wed Oct 1 2014
 1 Shout Out!
2 days left for the release of Super Smash Bros. for 3DS i can taste it.
Dustinman2012
said at 5:17 PM on Mon Sep 29 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Super Smash Bros for 3DS is almost here! I can't wait!
SteelEthlan
said at 7:13 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
As far as these voice acting choices here's the dream voice acting cast that should've been voiced by:

#1) Bowser: Kenny James (Why Sakurai? Why can't you just get an actual voice actor to make the animal sound instead of that animalistic sound effects i know it saves your time by finding the one who is currently voice acting for bowser but come on at least just get him to do it.)

#2) Donkey Kong: Dee Bradley Baker & Takashi (Seriously, this guy right here is most likely a pro at doing animal sounds here and there instead of the gorilla sounds let him do the actual ape-like sounds so it gives him a real King of the jungle vibe he had going on here that would've been a great oppurtunity)

#3) Diddy Kong Chris Sanders & (Much like i said to donkey kong here i would like to see Chris Sanders do the job for diddy here i'm not kidding he'll use stitch mixing up with belt from the croods and voila that's how diddy kong sounds like but it's just my imagination and my choice)

#4) Mega Man: Cole Howard (I can see they wanted to make him play like the classics and i see mario and sonic had current voices and still being voiced by the ones we already know so why can't mega man have one)

#5) Pac-Man: Tommy James (I can understand by not having a voice here but it would be pretty cool if he should really have one not saying it's gonna happen but i'm just saying that it would be alright if he does)

#6) Mii Fighters (Male and Female):

- Mii Brawler (Male) voiced by in Japan: Takuya Sato

- Mii Swordfighter (Male) voiced by in Japan: Katsuhiro Harasawa

- Mii Gunner (Male) voiced by in Japan: Fumihiro Okabayashi

- Mii Enchanter (Male) (A made up variety of miis with magical skills) voiced by in Japan: Tomoyuki Higuchi

&

- Mii Brawler (Female) voiced by in Japan: Hitomi Hirose

- Mii Swordfighter (Female) voiced by in Japan: Tomo Adachi

- Mii Gunner (Female) voiced by in Japan: Yuko Kaida

- Mii Enchanter (Female) (A made up variety of miis with magical skills) voiced by in Japan: Ayumi Nagao (I do not understand why the miis do not have their Japanese voice to be implemented here i mean really but bleh i digress)

That's just my personal list how they should've sound like what we expect i mean if nothings like what i listed so far oh freaking well.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:15 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
@SteelEthlan And his last name i forgot to add up is Nagasako.
Mikel
said at 11:50 PM on Thu Sep 25 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
This game's voice cast is all over the place... Los Angeles (plus San Diego to some extent?), New York, Seattle, and now the United Kingdom.
Toki
said at 12:13 PM on Fri Sep 26 2014
@Mikel also Japan, some character aren't dubbed over.
DravenRoth994
said at 4:36 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
Lisa Ortiz and Erica Schroeder are here too (among some of the other NY actors)? Cool!!! It's also interesting to hear its Lauren Landa as Female Robin. She really reminded me of Michelle Ruff, its crazy!!
Jessica Marra
said at 3:12 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Oh, yes! Finally the English cast is complete! HOORAY! XD
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:16 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
Just found a text dump of the game. Looks like the complete English version credits are indeed included within the Japanese game.

http://pastebin.com/9dRA48dV

(NOTE: The Japanese credits list all voice actors present in the Japanese version; the English section lists only dub actors)

You know what this means...

Oddly enough, Antony Del Rio does indeed seem to be totally uncredited.
Toki
said at 5:34 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
@NCZ probably because the game is non SAG AFTRA union.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:42 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
@Toki That's what I want to think (the replacement of the other Kid Icarus VAs with non-union actors is a big red flag), but Laura Bailey is listed, and as of late she always goes uncredited or under a pseudonym when working non-union...
Toki
said at 5:51 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
@NCZ It has to be him, because it don't think any other actor listed in the credits could do a flawless impersonation of his pit. Since he probably loved playing pit in uprising (based on interviews with him) he was probably willing to take a pay cut, an go uncredited. This is just a theory though.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:52 PM on Tue Sep 23 2014
@Toki I'm not saying it isn't him--because let's face it, it blatantly is--it's just a really weird situation. There's too much unknown to say one way or another whether this is unionized or not.
Kirbopher
said at 11:19 PM on Wed Sep 24 2014
@NCZ That pastebin link's expired; got another link to where the full thing is listed?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:55 AM on Thu Sep 25 2014
@Kirbopher Yes, I copied it into a text file:

Jason Adkins
Laura Bailey
Frédéric Clou
Jean-Marc Delhausse
Virginie Demians
Jean Faure
Alexandre Gillet
Steven Heinke
Christophe Hespel
Adam Howden
Corinne Kempa
Brandy Kopp
Lauren Landa
Rachael Lillis
Carlos Lobo
Jonathan López
Mark Lund
Eric Newsome
Sean Schemmel
Roger Craig Smith
Billy Thompson
David Vincent
Mike West

Jaz Adams
Lyssa Browne
Ben Cullum
Wayne Forester
Riley Inge
Rufus Jones
Steve Malpass
Matt Mercer
Chris Seavor
Jay Ward

Manel Gimeno
Stephanie Komure
Benoît Du Pac
Patrick Seitz
Kirk Thornton

Julie Basecqz
Delphine Chauvier
Thibaut Delmotte
Michael Haigney
Michel Hinderyckx
Michele Knotz
Michael Liscio
Fabienne Loriaux
Suzy Meyers
Lisa Ortiz
Haven Paschall
Jamie Peacock
Erica Schroeder
Eileen Stevens
Marc Thompson
Jean-Michel Vovk
Tom Wayland
Scott Williams

Julie Parker
Ángel Moreno Colmena
Isabella Arevalo
Horacio Mancilla
October Moore
Mikel
said at 12:01 AM on Fri Sep 26 2014
@NCZ If this is the case, then this may end up being the first time Antony Del Rio has done voice work for something that's non-union. Either that, or something else.

I'm not sure why, but I feel that the credits list may be different on Wii U depending on the characters listed, so perhaps we may see his name by then?
DravenRoth994
said at 4:39 PM on Sun Sep 21 2014
The 3DS demo came today!!! I'm playing it right now and LOVING IT!!! The controls are going to take some getting used to though. Finally listening to Xander, I am impressed. He is now my second favorite of the announcers, beaten only by Dean Harrington.
Axem Red
said at 1:42 PM on Sun Sep 21 2014
 1 Shout Out!
The fact that you can play as the Duck Hunt dog is awesome!!
CuriousUserX90
said at 4:32 AM on Sun Sep 21 2014
Basically, these characters have had different Voice Over's since Brawl, and they'd pretty much continue in SSB4:
*Kenny James has taken over Eric Newsome as Bowser (2007-present).
*Takashi Ohara has taken over Akira Sasanuma as Link (from Skyward Sword).
*Yu Shimamura has taken over Jun Mizusawa as Zelda (from Skyward Sword).
*Ganondorf I haven't a clue.
*Jessica Martin has taken over Alesia Glidewell as Zero Suit Samus (from Metroid: Other M).
*Anthony Del Rio has taken over Lani Minella as Pit (Kid Icarus Uprising).
*Roger Craig Smith has taken over Jason Griffith as Sonic (2010-Present).
*Star Fox Characters I've no Clue about.
*Pokemon are no longer done by 4Kids Actors (that's what I think).
Jessica Marra
said at 7:30 AM on Sun Sep 21 2014
@CuriousUserX90 Well, Alesia Glidewell is Zero Suit Samus in Smash 4, Akira Sasanuma is Link, Jun Mizusawa is Zelda, Bowser has no voice, and yes, Antony Del Rio is Pit now and Roger Craig Smith is Sonic. Yes, Pokemon is not done by 4kids actors anymore, however, they DID manage to get Sean Schemmel to reprise Lucario again from the Pokemon movie, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew and that was done by 4kids at the time.
Toki
said at 9:58 AM on Sun Sep 21 2014
@CuriousUserX90 Kenny James,Takeshi Ohara,Yu Shimomura,and Jessica Martin are not listed in the credits while the ones listed on the page are in the Japanese credits or confirmed to be in the English version.
CuriousUserX90
said at 1:00 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@Toki The Credits only list the Cast of Characters (Playable or not), not the staff and cast of the game when you beat modes like Classic Mode.
CuriousUserX90
said at 2:08 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@Jessica Marra Sasanuma did not voice Link in Skyward Sword, Glidewell did not voice Samus in Metroid Other M (asked her on Twitter if she's recorded any lines for SSB4 https://twitter.com/CuriousUserX90/status/512883098350936064) and Bowser, and his children do all has always had a voice. Bowser has been voiced by Kenny James since 2007. When will you believe me about this?
CuriousUserX90
said at 2:12 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@Toki Did I or anyone else expect the characters to sound completely the same as in Brawl? Nope. Did I or anyone else expect the characters to have voice clips that weren't already heard in Brawl in SSB4? Yep.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:54 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@CuriousUserX90 No one will believe you because you are dead wrong! We have credits already. There is no Kenny James, no Jessica Martin, and no Takashi Ohara. What do you not understand about this?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:12 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@CuriousUserX90

"This is the last time I'm saying this: The game is not even out, and the credits does not show you who voices who, just a character roll call."

You do realize that the game has been out in Japan for over a week and that more than a million people have their hands on it?

"The Credits only list the Cast of Characters (Playable or not), not the staff and cast of the game when you beat modes like Classic Mode."

This is completely false. Watch this stream of the game, beginning from the 4:04:30 mark.

www.twitch.tv/yushako/b/567474491

Do you see what comes up after Classic Mode is beaten? A complete ending credit scroll, including a list of the voice actors. None of the VAs you mention are credited. Akira Sasanuma, Alesia Glidewell, et al ARE.

"Did I or anyone else expect the characters to sound completely the same as in Brawl? Nope. Did I or anyone else expect the characters to have voice clips that weren't already heard in Brawl in SSB4? Yep."

This isn't evidence, this is an assumption. An unfounded one too considering that the final version of the game, as proven by the eShop demo, NoA Treehouse stream, and players of the Japanese version, shows that many of the characters are reusing Melee/Brawl voices.

Do some research instead of simply assuming things are wrong.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:46 AM on Sat Sep 20 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Remember the long rumored November 21st release date? It's real.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/nintendo_advert_confirms_november_21st_launch_date_for_super_smash_bros_wii_u
Jessica Marra
said at 10:02 AM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't care if I'm jumping happily like Twilight Sparkle, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, YYYYYYEEEESSSSSS!!! XD
SteelEthlan
said at 11:36 AM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Seriously? This could only mean that it's going to be released in 2 months like nothing else.
CuriousUserX90
said at 6:47 AM on Thu Sep 18 2014
Link is now actually voiced by Takashi Ohara, who did him in Skyward Sword.
Kirbopher
said at 8:25 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@CuriousUserX90 No, he isn't. It's recycled clips of Akira Sasanuma, the Twilight Princess!Link actor.
CuriousUserX90
said at 9:32 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@Kirbopher Link was not voiced by that person in any recent games and...

Wait. You're username, sounds awfully familiar to the youtuber doing the DYK Voice Acting Videos. Been some time.
SteelEthlan
said at 3:55 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
@CuriousUserX90 No he's not you still realize that he is still voiced by Akira Sasanuma?
CuriousUserX90
said at 6:45 AM on Thu Sep 18 2014
Zero Suit Samus is now done by Jessica Martin (same from Metroid Other M), and Kenny James has voiced Bowser since 2007. What's a Mystery is the Star Fox Characters.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:03 AM on Thu Sep 18 2014
@CuriousUserX90 Have you read the credits or played the game? Your information is false.
VGAfanatic
said at 8:18 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@CuriousUserX90 They may be the voices in the games, but you should either listen to the voices or read the credits. They're recycling the voice overs from Brawl for Link and Samus, and Bowser is still played by roaring sound effects.
CuriousUserX90
said at 9:33 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@CuriousUserX90 If there's any contact details for Alesia Glidewell, I'll probably ask her if she's done any voice over for Super Smash Bros. 4.
CuriousUserX90
said at 9:37 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@VGAfanatic Kenny James has voiced Bowser since Super Mario Galaxy in 2007, and still is now.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:42 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@CuriousUserX90 Seriously, did you even read the credits? None of the actors you claim to be in this game were credited. NONE!
CuriousUserX90
said at 2:10 AM on Mon Sep 22 2014
@VGAfanatic This is the last time I'm saying this: The game is not even out, and the credits does not show you who voices who, just a character roll call.
Jessica Marra
said at 4:46 AM on Thu Sep 18 2014
Almost less than two weeks, people! The big day is almost here! XD
SteelEthlan
said at 1:39 PM on Thu Sep 18 2014
@Jessica Marra Oh boy this i cannot wait to see.
Bauglir100
said at 12:53 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
Geez, there's less than a month away and there's still no subtitle for this game? Melee and Brawl have subtitles so why not this one?

I could think of five subtitles for this game: Arena, Tournament, Rumble, Battle, and Riot. And Nintendo can't think of even ONE?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:43 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Bauglir100 They can think of plenty subtitles, they just don't WANT to.
Bauglir100
said at 4:35 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Which is totally stupid and makes Nintendo look lazy. You just don't subtitle sequels and then STOP subtitling them. It's just wrong!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:47 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Bauglir100 Eh, I don't think it's a big deal at all.
Bauglir100
said at 4:56 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Well, they could've at least called it "Super Smash Bros. 4" or something like that.

Just calling it "Super Smash Bros." makes this game seem like either a port/remake of the original game or a complete reboot of the series. And by the looks of things, it's neither, so WTF.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:13 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Bauglir100 It is called Super Smash Brothers FOR 3DS/Wii U. Emphasis on the for. You see what I mean?
Bauglir100
said at 5:17 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I doubt the for/four pun is intentional.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:33 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Bauglir100

Let me put it this way.

To most observers, this is the first Smash Bros. game to be on multiple consoles. However, from the developers' perspective, the 3DS and Wii U versions are in fact two separate games. Although the character roster, physics, and core gameplay are identical, the stages, game modes, music, and much else is very different and makes them into unique experiences. It's not like how Playstation All-Stars was identical whether you were playing on Vita or PS3, making the other version redundant. Each system's incarnation of Smash has its own unique identity.

If both the 3DS and Wii U games had the same subtitle, casual buyers would assume they're identical. And especially since the 3DS version is coming out firs,t people will think, "Well, why should I get it for Wii U when they're the same game?"

By calling them "Super Smash Bros. for 3DS" and "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U", consumers know that these are separate Smash Bros. experiences designed specifically for the 3DS and Wii U. It reinforces that they are not just two versions of one game, but two halves of one cohesive experience. If someone who only has it on 3DS sees "Super Smash Bros. 4", they think, "Don't I have that already?" If they see "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U", they think, "Sweet, a new Smash Bros for Wii U!"


And come on, let's address the elephant in the room here, anything that leads to more Wii Us being sold in an extremely competitive holiday season can't be a bad thing for Nintendo.
Bauglir100
said at 5:40 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@NCZ Then they should've given them each their own subtitle and put more effort into making them distinct from each other.
Dogman15
said at 1:59 AM on Thu Sep 18 2014
@Bauglir100 Super Smash Bros. Dimensions and Super Smash Bros. Universe (stealing from someone else's idea on Reddit or somewhere.)
SteelEthlan
said at 1:39 PM on Thu Sep 18 2014
@Dogman15 Redundancy.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:23 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
If it's any consolation for Lucas fans, Ness got his specials as custom moves.
Kirbopher
said at 2:09 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
Hey folks! So the Japanese version of the new Smash Bros. game just released in Japan a few days ago and yesterday (at the time of this post) Nintendo streamed a special event where they showcased tons of footage of the game. Safe to say, the game's credits sequences are out in the open - the folks at BTVA filled in a bunch of the credits this week after the Japanese version released:

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Super-Smash-Bros-for-Wii-U-and-3DS/side-by-side/

Meanwhile, I managed to pause with lightning speed through the English credits sequence while the Nintendo treehouse staff played through classic mode and retrieved what you see below. They're categorized off into sections and then alphabetized. I've copied down just about everything.

(Be warned, spoilers for the hidden characters contained below!!)

PLAYABLE CHARACTERS
Jason Adkins - Ike
Isabella Arevalo - ?
Jean-Marc Delhausse - ? (Worked on Pokemon's French dub)
Virginie Demians - ?
Jean Faure - ?
Alexandre Gillet - Sonic [French]
Alesia Glidewell - Zero Suit Samus, Knuckle Joe
Steven Heinke - Wii Fit Trainer (Male)
Christophe Hespel - ? (Possibly Lucario's French actor?)
Adam Howden - Shulk
Kerri Kane - Rosalina
Sam Kelly - Peach
Corinne Kempa - ?
Brandi Kopp - Palutena
Lauren Landa - Robin (Female)
Rachael Lillis - Jigglypuff
Carlos Lobo - ?
Jonathan Lopez - Sonic [Spanish]
Horacio Mancilla - ?
Charles Martinet - Mario, Luigi, Dr. Mario, Wario
Sachi Matsumoto - Toon Link
Hikaru Midorikawa - Marth
Shin-ichiro Miki - Charizard
Hironori Miyata - Gannondorf
Xander Mobus - Announcer, Master Hand, crazy Hand
October Moore - Wii Fit Trainer (Female)
Jun Mizusawa - Zelda, Sheik
Eric Newsome - Metaknight
Makiko Ohmoto - Kirby, Ness, Viridi
Ikue Ohtani - Pikachu
Akira Sasanuma - Link
Sean Schemmel - Lucario
Roger Craig Smith - Sonic
Yuya Takezawa - Luma
Billy Thompson - Greninja
Kousuke Toriumi - Little Mac
David Vincent - Robin (Male)
Mike West - Fox

(Notably, Antony Del Rio and the voices of Bowser Jr. & the Koopalings are NOT listed here. There also appears to be selectable language settings on the English version of the game, which feature several alternate voices for a few characters. Amongst those listed are some actors from the other dubs of the Pokemon anime series.)


ASSOCIATED CHARACTERS
Jaz Adams - ?
Lyssa Browne - ?
Ben Cullum - Corneria Easter Egg Falco
Wayne Forester - Riki
Riley Inge - Doc Louis
Rufus Jones - Dunban
Steve Malpass - Corneria Easter Egg Fox
Dex Manley - ? , Saki Amamiya
Matthew Mercer - Chrom
Chris Seavor - Corneria Easter Egg Slippy & Peppy
Jay Ward - ?

(Based on the Rareware staff being listed, it sounds like the Easter Egg where you can communicate with the Star Fox Team using Fox and Falco's taunts is still active on Corneria. Jaz Adams and Lyssa Browne from the Starfox 3DS cast are both listed, as well as Dex Manley and Jay Ward who filled in for a few of the "Assault" versions of the Star Fox characters in Brawl. Little Mac, Shulk and Robin's associated characters are also listed here.)


ASSIST TROPHIES
Hisao Egawa - ?
Manuel Gimeno - Shadow [Spanish]
Anri Katsu - Ghirahim
Yu Kobayashi - ?
Stephanie Komura - ?
Akiko Koumoto - Midna
Taro Kudo - ?
Akio Ohtsuka - Samurai Goroh
Benoit Du Pac - Shadow [French]
Patrick Seitz - Magnus
Tomokazu Sugita - ?
Kirk Thornton - Shadow

(Mostly filled out, but missing a few here.)

POKEBALL MONSTERS
Julie Basecez - ?
Delphine Chaunder - ?
Thibaut Delmontte - ?
Michael Haigney - Snorlax
Michel Hinderyokx - ?
Unsho Ishizuka - ?
Michele Knotz - Snivy, Gardevoir
Katsuyuki Konishi - ?
Satomi Koroogi - Togepi
Michael Liscio - ?
Fabienne Leriax - ?
Suzy Meyers - ?
Lisa Ortiz - Oshawott
Kenta Miyake - ?
Hitomi Nabatame - ?
Haven Paschall - ?
Jamie Peacock - Wobbuffet, Bellossom
Megumi Sato - ?
Erica Shroeder - ?
Eileen Stevens - Fennekin
Yuka Terasaki - ?
Marc Thompson - ?
Yuji Ueda - ?
Jean-Michel Vovk - ?
Tom Wayland - Arceus
Scott Williams - Darkrai
Koichi Yamadera - Mew

(Appears to hold several seiyuu whose clips were carried over for the English version again, as well as several folks from the English dub of Pokemon - confirmed by Tom Wayland to me personally. A few French and Spanish actors are listed here as well.)


RESPECTED ACTORS
Yayoi Jigunji - Koume & Kotake, Majora
Julie Parker - ?

(Yayoi's clips from the Zelda games she worked on are carried over for this game; not sure who Julie Parker plays in this, however.)




If you folks can fill in any of the blanks, let me know!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:29 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher Jaz Adams and Lyssa Browne are probably for something Star Fox related. Maybe Jay Ward as well. Is there anywhere that the Star Fox characters have dialogue outside of Corneria?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:54 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher Those credits seem incomplete. Were all the characters unlocked in that playthrough? Many of the playable characters who don't have VAs listed (Dark Pit, Koopalings, Falco, and Lucina) are unlockables. The Japanese credits had blank spaces for VAs who voiced hidden characters (e.g. Mika Kanai and the Koopaling voices didn't show up until the end). Exceptions are VAs who also voiced NPCs in addition to hidden characters (Hisao Egawa and Hironori Miyata were visible from the beginning).

To reduce margin for error I'd like to ensure that we can get our hands on a listing that is 100% complete (although with that listing, I have figured out a fair few matchups).
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:55 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I can't confirm it, but I'm assuming they're part of a Smash Taunt. Star Fox NPCs had their voices listed in the Japanese credits too (Tomohisa Aso, Kyoko Tongu, Mahito Oba, Shinobu Satochi, and Tetsu Inada).
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:38 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
Quick analysis:

- Dex Manley is listed with the NPCs and not the playables. To wit, "That ain't Falco."

- Tomokazu Sugita, Hisao Egawa, and Yu Kobayashi being bumped down from their groups in the Japanese credits confirms that they voice the straggler assist trophies who were left undubbed.

- Some of the Pokemon are in a similar boat.

- Hynden Walch isn't listed. Anyone know if she has dialogue on the 3DS? She had a line in Palutena's trailer. Two possibilities here. A) She only speaks on the Wii U version. B) Viridi appears in the Reset Bomb Forest stage. Julie Parker is listed at the very end with Yayoi Jinguji, who also voices stage hazard characters. Therefore, it's possibly that she's Viridi.

- On a related note, Kari Wahlgren's absence means Phosphora probably has a new VA (shot in the dark--Stephanie Komure)

- If that's true, Antony Del Rio is the only VA from Uprising to return.

- The Wii Fit Trainers, Pokemon (the ones who have different names in various languages), announcer, and Sonic crew are dubbed into other languages.

- Carlos Lobo is the odd man out. Looking him up, he seems to be a German voice actor. No credits in Nintendo games either. Is there a German option? If so he's probably the announcer.


With that said, as I said above, nothing is official until we have access to a credit scroll that can be verified to be totally complete.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:58 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher R u sure it's Lauren Landa who's voicing female Robin? Cause I had a huge feeling it would be Michelle Ruff. It even sounded like her in the trailer of Lucina and the Robins.

(Sigh) I guess Mike West IS Fox in this game meaning Jim Walker is gone. That disappoints me. I guess Falco will have ST64 voice too. I guess Little Mac will still have a Japanese voice like Link and Marth. Please comment back if this clear or not. Thanks for your helpful info.
Kirbopher
said at 7:00 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@NCZ Did Antony officially confirm anywhere that he came back for Pit? I know it should be obvious, but the fact that his name isn't in the credits is what perplexes me. Magnus was played by Patrick Seitz matching Fred Tatasciore, so it's possible Phosphora's been matched by someone else.

Also, that theory about the blank spaces lines up, but then why is Lani Minella not listed since she's Lyn as an assist trophy? Rachael was listed in the playable characters area already, probably because of Goldeen, but Jigglypuff wasn't unlocked yet on the credits that were being scrolled through. Falco wasn't unlocked yet either, so maybe Mark Lund plays him in English and his name will pop up?

I reached out to a couple of these folks to ask who they recorded for. I'll update if I find anything.
Kirbopher
said at 7:13 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Jessica Marra Michelle Ruff and Wendee Lee are not credited in the game, so it's neither of them. Lauren is in the playable character credits and it's the only one that lines up; I did reach out to her to confirm 100% though. Kousuke Toriumi is also listed in the playable character credits and people are saying he's Little Mac, but we're not 100% sure about that one either.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:13 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher I don't think Antony Del Rio officially confirmed it. With that said he once said on twitter (he deleted his account at some point this year) that he couldn't talk about Smash, but that it would be "hamazing". I don't know why he's not listed though. If he's not there when Dark Pit is unlocked, something is really up. Minami Takayama's there from the beginning in Japanese too.

Mike West and Jaz Adams being listed would imply they wanted to go with 64 3D voices for the Star Fox crew, so Mark Lund being Falco makes sense.

Lani Minella's absence at this point I'm not fully sure on but could possibly a slipup on the part of the localization team. She doesn't voice Lyn in Japanese and as such is hidden with the playables there. There aren't any other VAs who voice both a hidden playable and a default AT and weren't dubbed over in their main role (which would require them to be bumped down or subbed out), so maybe her name just got lost in the shuffle. Literally. She'll probably show up after a Koopaling unlock.
Kirbopher
said at 7:14 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@NCZ Also, by the way - the Treehouse just confirmed that Nate Bihldorff of NoA voices Dr. Wright. If that's one that went unconfirmed previously, there's that.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:19 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher In the Japanese credits, there's nobody left for Kosuke Toriumi to be, plus he's there from the beginning while Mac is a default, so process of elimination determines that it's him. The fact that he's still included in the English version indicates that he wasn't dubbed over.
Jessica Marra
said at 7:25 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Kirbopher So Lauren Landa IS the female Robin. Okay, and it is true Mike West and Mark Lund will be Falco. And it's still unsure if Little Mac will have an English VA. Please comment back when you can and thanks again.
Ultimate Fox
said at 8:05 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Jessica Marra : Dang. I hope jim walker would return. I guess I can deal with this. When I get this game, I'm playing the japanesse version. At least Fox is in nonetheless. Dang it nintendo. Why do this to smash?! I'm just glad to play Fox thats all.
Toki
said at 9:23 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@NCZ do you think it's a union issue? I think Laura Bailey went uncredited in Awakening for that reason.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:31 PM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Toki I can't say for sure until we have a complete credit list. If the credits have Antony Del Rio and Laura Bailey totally uncredited even after all characters are unlocked (i.e. including Dark Pit and Lucina) that's a big red flag. The lack of returning Kid Icarus VAs (who are all union members) is also interesting.
RykoMD
said at 7:59 AM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Kirbopher Horacio Mancilla and Isabella Arevalo appeared in the Latin American dub of Wii Fit U.
Kirbopher
said at 8:38 AM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@RykoMD Oh okay, perfect! That would make them the Spanish voices of the Wii Fit trainers, then. Thank you!
Kirbopher
said at 8:38 AM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@NCZ I reached out to Carlos Lobo to ask which character he portrayed in Smash Bros...

"Hi there,


thank you for your interest in Nintendo´s Super Smash Bros
Carlos Lobo is the Character of NOA

best"

...whelp.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:37 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@Kirbopher Well, that's... nice. On a more helpful note, Corinne Kempa is the French Wii Fit Trainer. Cross-checking Wii Fit and this game's credits, I can't find a match for the male trainer though. Unless my eyes are really bad.
Kirbopher
said at 8:41 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@NCZ Got it, so then...

Isabella Arevalo - Female WFT [Spanish]
Jean-Marc Delhausse - ?
Virginie Demians - ?
Jean Faure - ?
Christophe Hespel - ?
Corinne Kempa - Female WFT [French]
Carlos Lobo - ?
Horacio Mancilla - Male WFT [Spanish]

So Jean-Marc Delhausse and Christophe Hespel have both worked on the French dub of Pokemon, so my guess is that they may be the French voices of Lucario and Greninja. By process of elimination, my guess is that Jean Faure is the French voice of the male Wii Fit Trainer. Carlos Lobo and Virginie Demians are the two headscratchers...
Kirbopher
said at 8:43 PM on Sun Sep 14 2014
@NCZ Also by the way, while I know these aren't 100% complete credits, they DO still confirm a bunch of people who aren't listed on the page yet. Can they be added or do you need actual screenshots of the credits?
Mikel
said at 12:56 AM on Mon Sep 15 2014
@NCZ Wasn't Brawl a unionized game by any chance? or was it more of a "special permission" game when it comes to the voice acting?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:50 AM on Mon Sep 15 2014
@NCZ In the case of Antony Del Rio I'm thinking that maybe he isn't credited because he went off union for this. It might explain why he said he couldn't talk about the game when Sean Schemmel was able to openly say he was Lucario.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:47 AM on Mon Sep 15 2014
@Kirbopher Does anyone know who Falco's English voice actor is yet??? I'm hoping it's Dex Manley but I'm losing hope about that. It could be either Mark Lund or Bill Johns. Does ANYONE have a clue???
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:59 AM on Mon Sep 15 2014
@Kirbopher Some screenshots would be nice. But yeah, I'm going to wait until we have a complete listing before I declare anything to be official. Not that I don't appreciate your efforts.

@Mikel Brawl was union due to the presence of the Metal Gear Solid voice actors.

@Nightmare Crusher That is a possibility. Although, it is worth noting that Antony Del Rio's comment was made before the game was even officially revealed at E3, so who knows if he'd even actually recorded anything at the time. Worth noting is that the Xenoblade VAs are part of Equity, the UK acting union, and Sean Schemmel is also part of SAG-AFTRA. I'd like to wait until the credits are complete before really getting this figured out.

@Jessica Marra It's not Dex Manley because he's not listed with the playable characters' voice actors.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:44 PM on Mon Sep 15 2014
@NCZ I wasn't sure when Antony Del Rio made that comment, but if it was that early then he very well could have been under an NDA. As for Adam Howden I don't know how Equity operates or how it compares to SAG-AFTRA and I can't comment. I suspect that Sean Schemmel is fi-core given his continued work as Goku and I'm pretty sure the Pokemon are handled by TPCI and I don't think they're union. I could be wrong on that, feel free to correct me. I guess we won't know until October.
Shiny Raticate
said at 2:01 PM on Tue Sep 16 2014
@Kirbopher Wait, Sean Schemmel came back to voice Lucario?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:21 PM on Tue Sep 16 2014
@Shiny Raticate We've known this since he tweeted about it in May.
Shiny Raticate
said at 8:19 PM on Wed Sep 17 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I don't have a Twitter, so... I'm only just hearing this now.

But I'm liking what I'm hearing.
Kirbopher
said at 8:27 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@NCZ Just confirmed with a friend who's got an advance English copy of the game after unlocking Falco, that he's played by Mark Lund.
VGAfanatic
said at 8:30 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@Kirbopher You would know about this because I've seen your Did You Know Voice Acting series, so I know you take the time to study this stuff in order to make it official. So, I'm taking your word for the official credits, including Lauren Landa as Robin.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:03 PM on Sat Sep 20 2014
@Kirbopher Good to know. If you don't mind me asking, how does he have a copy this early? Some kind of industry connection?
SteelEthlan
said at 3:54 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
@Kirbopher Wait a minute are you the actual kirbopher the one you created TOME series, Did You Know Voice Acting, Parody Rangers, Kirblog & Nin10doh to the 64th power?

I'm just asking.
Ultimate Fox
said at 8:58 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
So who's Fox,Falco, and Wolf english voice actors?! I hope it's the Assault/Brawl actors. They were the best. I wonder if smash will have dlc's?! If they do, then wolf and some other fighters may return.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:10 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
@Ultimate Fox I'm pretty sure that Fox is Mike West. No idea on the other two.
Ultimate Fox
said at 12:43 AM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Hope not. not that I hate him. his voice isn't really good or in this case fitting in this game. he was good in 64 and decent in 3ds, but smash: NO! Now if this was jim walker; hell yea. but we won' t til the english version comes out. I'll still play the game but I won't be too found of his voice acting. I'll still respect jim and mike nontheless as my all-time favorite voice actors for Fox. At least brawl fox japan voice actor has return so that's some delight. a cool one too.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:35 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
English version taunts!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CT1o1OFk3o#t=1m13s
I think this pretty solidly confirms that Jason Adkins and Eric Newsome reprise Ike and Meta Knight via stock clips.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:43 AM on Sat Sep 13 2014
@Nightmare Crusher YES! Thank God, cause I think Jason Adkins and Eric Newsome were great as Ike and Meta Knight! I don't care if Marth still speaks Japanese. It honestly suits him and I can understand some things he says.

I have no clue who voices the Wii Fit Trainers, does anyone know?

I'm very worried about Fox's voice in this game. Jim Walker was perfect and I can't figure out why they would change him here. I mean, Fox's Japanese VA, Kenji Nojima voiced Fox in Assault, Brawl, and this game. It's unfair that Jim would get the boot and be replaced.

I fear that Falco will meet the same fate and that concerns me dearly. I'm praying this isn't true cause that'll probably make me depressed. :'(
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:28 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
Does Wolf even have a speaking part? All I've seen of him is that trophy. On a somewhat related note, do we have any idea who did Takamaru?
Mikel
said at 5:30 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
I am aware that while some characters have recycled dialogue, but am I the only person under the impression that select veterans like Kirby, Ness, and Pit are the only ones with new dialogue recorded for this game? (I'm wondering based on the released Japanese version, not the English release)
MechaKnucklesA3
said at 3:08 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
Interesting.

I didn't think most of the voice actors from Brawl, would reprise their roles for their characters, like Link and Toon Link. Especially since they both had different voice actors in their own games, after Brawl's release (Spirit Tracks and Skyward Sword).
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:12 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
@MechaKnucklesA3 Technically, the Spirit Tracks and Skyward Sword versions of Link aren't the same as the ones from Wind Waker and Skyward Sword, so it made sense for them to keep the same voices.

I'm guessing they kept the Twilight Princess versions of the Zelda crew because Ganondorf and Sheik weren't in Skyward Sword, so there's nothing for them to draw from there. I know that there's Hyrule Warriors, but that's a spin-off and it began development after SSB4 was already in progress.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:23 PM on Fri Sep 12 2014
Ganondorf has a custom move where he actually uses his sword.
http://i.imgur.com/vYx9DVf.png
Progress?
HienFan
said at 8:07 AM on Fri Sep 12 2014
Is that Jigglypuff? YES I thought it was going to be discontinued I am so glad to see it again, it's my favourite character together with Luigi
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:05 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
A moment of silence to the fallen Smash Brothers (and Sister). Wolf, Lucas, Squirtle, Ivysaur, the Ice Climbers, and Snake. As well as the still lost-in-action Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu. Although legendary medic Dr. Mario has finally returned from the great Melee of 2001, the whereabouts of those three remain unknown to this day.

You gave your lives not for honour, but for us.
http://i.imgur.com/w1pFf1J.gif
Jessica Marra
said at 3:00 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
So it would appear the Japanese actors who voiced characters in Brawl have reprised their characters here again. Let's just pray the English ones reprise theirs again as well. Oh, and YES! Alesia is Zero Suit Samus again! WHOO-HOO! XD
SteelEthlan
said at 7:42 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Jessica Marra I am so so glad that Alesia Glidewell would voice samus again i called it sorry Jennifer Hale fans she won't do samus in smash bros here.
DravenRoth994
said at 2:48 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
Regarding what I said about there being no more surprises, I. STAND. CORRECTED!!! I mean, the DUCK HUNT DOG??!!! The Koopalings serving as alternate costumes for Bowser Jr??!! Never in my life, did I expect that. There's another character that's back, but isn't here. I don't want to say who at the moment.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:02 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@DravenRoth994 Oh, that character is on here all right...

(If anyone is reading this and doesn't know who that character is, don't get your hopes up.)
DravenRoth994
said at 3:33 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@NCZ Well, in a matter of speaking, he/she is, and I was certainly not expecting him/her to be back (Like he said, don't get your hopes up TOO much).
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:48 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
Why are we being secret about him? Everyone else is here.
GothamRed
said at 3:51 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@DravenRoth994 Now all gamer can live out their childhood dreams of punching that dog in the face for mocking you when you missed the ducks.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:52 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Secret about his name I mean. I'm fully aware of why he doesn't have a character entry.
DravenRoth994
said at 4:43 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I guess I just didn't want to spoil it for people who don't already know. Oh, I see, he is just an alternate costume?
DravenRoth994
said at 4:46 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@GothamRed I was thinking of writing that myself. I don't know if I've played Duck Hunt though.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:10 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
It feels good to have it all out now.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:02 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
There's a Rhythm Heaven trophy. It doesn't have a series icon. That means there's no playable rep.
http://i.imgur.com/RAyzMUr.jpg
CHORUS KIDS ARE DEAD! THE PEOPLE WHO KEPT CLINGING TO GEMATSU CAN FINALLY GO AWAY! Finally!
SteelEthlan
said at 7:47 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah who ever wanted Chorus Kids to be playable can now be denied.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:55 PM on Wed Sep 10 2014
I've seen the ending credits.

The voice actor names aren't attached to any characters, but they are written in English.

"This party's gettin' crazy. Let's rock!"
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:46 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Is there anywhere others can see them too? I'm rather curious.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:01 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I can PM them to you if you want.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:09 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@NCZ That would be fantastic.
Mikel
said at 12:24 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@NCZ I would love to see them too, since I am really curious on the game's voice cast at this moment as well. :)
Jessica Marra
said at 1:49 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@NCZ Please PM them to me too cause I'm dying to know as well! I don't care if it's just the Japanese cast, I wanna know who voices who!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:16 PM on Thu Sep 11 2014
What the hey, I'll post them publicly for reference.

Transcribed from the ending of this stream (about 4 hours, 4 minutes in):
http://www.twitch.tv/yushako/b/567474491

Shintaro Asanuma
Dan Falcone
Hisao Egawa
Alesia Glidewell
Michihiko Hagi
Tomoyuki Higuchi
Hitomi Hirose
Aya Hisakawa
Ryo Horikawa
Yoshimasa Hosoya
Mika Kanai
Kerry Kane
Junichi Kanemaru
Sam Kelly
Atsushi Kisaichi
Yu Kobayashi
Charles Martinet
Sachi Matsumoto
Hikaru Midorikawa
Shinichiro Miki
Lani Minella
Hironori Miyata
Jun Mizusawa
Xander Mobus
Daisuke Namikawa
Kenji Nojima
Makiko Omoto
Ikue Otani
Caety Sagoian
Akira Sasanuma
Miyuki Sawashiro
Minami Takayama
Yuya Takazawa
Kosuke Toriumi
Yuji Ueda
Mike Vaughn

Tomohisa Aso
Teiyu Ichiryusai
Tetsu Inada
Yuki Kaida
Tsuyoshi Koyama
Mahito Oba
Shinobu Satochi
Tomokazu Sugita
Kyoko Tongu

Anri Katsu
Yuka Komatsu
Akiko Komoto
Taro Kudo
Dex Manley
Kenji Nomura
Akio Otsuka
Koji Yusa

Masashi Ebara
Megumi Hayashibara
Mayumi Iizuka
Unsho Ishizuka
Tomoko Kawakami
Katsuyuki Konishi
Satomi Korogi
Kenta Miyake
Hitomi Nabatame
Megumi Sato
Yuka Terasaki
Koichi Yamadera

Yayoi Jinguji
Mikel
said at 10:47 PM on Tue Sep 9 2014
3DS demo is out for those that own a Japanese 3DS!
Swiftie Muggle
said at 11:09 AM on Tue Sep 9 2014
Answer Me , i know you are there....
i demand an explanation
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:13 PM on Tue Sep 9 2014
@Swiftie Muggle First off... this comment is rather rude and not really the best way to go about communicating with people. When you're on the internet, a general rule of thumb is that nobody checks it 24/7. People are often busy taking care of other things in real life and therefore unable to respond to absolutely everything immediately, but at the very least, here I do make a point to respond to things as soon as I humanly can. A bit of kindness, politeness, and patience goes a long way. Please remember this for the future.

At any rate, the comments are intended to be a discussion page. We have dedicated request centres in the forums, and that is where you go to request for new information to be added. We don't allow these types of posts to be made in the comments because of this.

As one final note... I have actually seen that email because I check Smash forums pretty frequently, but I decided not to update the page. At this point, we're so close to release that it's much more convenient and simple for me to complete everything in one fell swoop when the inevitable deluge of information pours in, rather than add everything slowly as info trickles out.
Swiftie Muggle
said at 2:46 PM on Tue Sep 9 2014
lol
Swiftie Muggle
said at 10:47 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@NCZ Mr NDZ I'm sorry if you took my comment the wrong way. I truly am. That being said , KERRI KANE IS LISTED AS ROSALINA'S VOICE not Laura Faye, , i posted the credits in Smahsboards as proof ; so you might know when updating the info .

Thanks For reading ♥ Bye
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:02 AM on Thu Sep 11 2014
@Swiftie Muggle Apology accepted. I have seen (and largely deciphered) the credits already, though.
Swiftie Muggle
said at 10:54 AM on Tue Sep 9 2014
Why on earth my comment was deleted.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:09 AM on Tue Sep 9 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
People have the game now. For real.
http://i.imgur.com/08fGziy.jpg
Soon...
Jessica Marra
said at 6:11 AM on Tue Sep 9 2014
@Nightmare Crusher MIND EXPLODES!!!!
Jessica Marra
said at 6:14 AM on Tue Sep 9 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Okay, I'm alright now. I just got so excited right there. Soon now, we'll see probably all the Japanese cast and some of the English because obviously Charles Martinet will be Mario and Luigi while Samantha Kelly will be Peach in both languages. I'm just anxious about the rest! XD
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:24 PM on Wed Sep 10 2014
@Nightmare Crusher That pic's a false alarm.

This one isn't.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129424001&postcount=4455
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:21 AM on Mon Sep 8 2014
Nintendo's doing a livestream of the game on September 12th. Get ready everybody.

https://www.facebook.com/Nintendo/photos/a.120520318032430.30157.119240841493711/695128020571654/?type=1&theater
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:29 PM on Sat Sep 6 2014
LOL IMDB!
https://twitter.com/volobos/status/508066179265462272
Fulgore2005
said at 1:49 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I just don't know what to say about that...
Metabad
said at 6:18 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Part of me thinks that's actually a pretty cool idea, but another part of me feels like his voice would be a little TOO deep for Ridley.
SteelEthlan
said at 4:20 PM on Tue Sep 9 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Say what?
SteelEthlan
said at 7:03 PM on Sat Sep 6 2014
I know how the 3DS plays out but i'm curious about the roster maybe they'll start out with starters and the rest unlockable.

Also, does anyone know japanese when you pre-order/order the game? I'm being very curious because i'm not much of a expert of japanese stuff.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:24 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
People are already getting the game! Someone posted pictures from the intro.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=128671406&postcount=5721
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:51 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I believe that's actually a commercial. There's a demo event going out in Japan and there's some pretty exciting news coming out of it. No new characters yet though (well... there is one character who is a modelswap for someone else, but that's a surprise you can look up for yourself).
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:55 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@NCZ I just found out about that and was going to post a comment. I'm prety surprised that they turned [redacted] into a costume for [redacted]. Although there are some very exciting sounding costumes besides that. Link apparently got the Fierce Deity.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:12 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Actually, I think the [REDACTED] thing may be a misinterpretation. [REDACTED] had a similar-themed palette in Brawl, so it's probably just that they brought it back.

There is a possibility that the player actually saw Link's already-confirmed Skyward alt and mistook it for the Fierce Deity, but if FD Link really is in that would be amazing and I want it to be real.

I'm still holding out for Mr. L (Luigi), Dry Bowser, and I'm really hoping that the statement of Galacta Knight being a Meta Knight alt is true. Maybe PoR Ike too, but I can live without it; I just can't get enough of his Radiant Dawn look.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:13 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@Nightmare Crusher

Disregard that middle bit. Fierce Deity Link IS IN!!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:21 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@NCZ I suppose it is possible that [REDACTED] isn't really a costume. We'll have to wait and see if others back that claim up. Fierce Deity being confirmed makes me think it might be true.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:40 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@NCZ The person giving out info has backed up the [REDACTED] costume. Also said that Bowser has a "No Bones" costume which might be a clumsy way of saying Dry Bowser.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:45 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I'm so happy about Dry Bowser.

As for the [REDACTED] costume--the description actually matches one of the character's palettes in Brawl very well. Feel free to check for yourself. I'm fairly certain it's just an alternate colour scheme, and they haven't demoted that character to being a modelswap.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:40 AM on Sat Sep 6 2014
@NCZ Sorry, but apparently the Dry Bowser thing may have been a mistake. I'm not entirely sure. It's a shame too. Dry Bowser is awesome. As for the [REDACTED] costume it does have some similarities to that one palette swap, but the original was brown with a red accessory while [REDACTED] is apparently gray with a purple accessory. It is a palette swap so I guess that rumor is still dead. Something interesting I've also heard is that Mac has SIXTEEN costumes. Eight normal ones and then eight wireframe versions of them.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:22 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@NCZ And now a picture of the [REDACTED] outfit has surfaced and I don't think the resemblance is nearly as strong as people have set. You can see it for yourself if you want to.
http://i.imgur.com/mEwelO9.jpg

As a bonus, here's Fierce Diety Link and Olimar's costume.
http://i.imgur.com/u4XkvnM.jpg
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:28 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@Nightmare Crusher *Deity
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:54 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Ooh, that does look like him. On the other hand, Mario having Wario colours in Brawl didn't stop Wario himself.

Fierce Deity Link looks SICK.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:18 AM on Sun Sep 7 2014
@NCZ I know what costume I'm going to be using for Link all the time.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:45 PM on Fri Sep 5 2014
I'm still wondering what the deal with Ridley is. Even if he is a boss I have to wonder why Nintendo would go out of its way to be vague about him.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:01 PM on Sat Sep 6 2014
@Nightmare Crusher They weren't going to say a single name of we-know-who when sakurai talks about the boss in other appearence last time in april nintendo direct and also this might imply that ridley might appear outside of this.

Or because of this joke "Ridley is too big" which in my opinion is so oversaid and old.

But it's just my topic.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:31 PM on Thu Sep 4 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Well, we're there's only about a week until the 3DS version launches in Japan, which feels pretty scary to think about. I want to leave a few updates in advance informing how I'm going to tackle the page:

- First off, there is a very real probability that stores will sell the game early, so we may have the official character roster a few days in advance. However, I'll probably just do one big update in order to save time and effort making repeated small updates. Mercifully, the official launch is a Saturday (mid-Friday in my EST time zone) so I'll have an entire weekend to get everything up to speed.

- Characters will be fairly easy to take care of with one caveat. I'm not sure if the website will be updated to reflect all of them. (I'm guessing they'll do what they did with Brawl and list them as "secrets" where you have to confirm that you want to view their pages) If not, I'll use 3DS screenshots from streams and gameplay videos, and update with the Wii U images at a later date.

- Credits: In a best-case scenario, the credits will be written in English and match names to characters. Next best scenario, they're in English and don't match them to characters. Worst case scenario, well, let's just say it's a good thing I've been thinking of studying Japanese. But seriously, if they are in Japanese, help would be greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of getting into contact with someone who has access to the Japanese version and would be able to provide a video of the credits and helping to translate the names in such a case.

- Assist Trophies and Pokemon may be difficult to come by. Some are rarer than others, and some are unlockable so there's no guarantee I'll be able to get them all at the same time.

- I will update the page again with Wii U screenshots and information when possible. (Which is to say, November. Believe.)


That's about it. The bottom line is you can rest assured that the second even one person in Japan has their hands on the game, I'll be firing away at my computer updating the page even at the expense of food, sleep, and real-life obligations. All right, maybe I won't go THAT far, but you get the idea. Love and peace.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:40 AM on Mon Sep 1 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
Less than two weeks guys. It won't be long until all is revealed.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:33 AM on Mon Sep 1 2014
@Nightmare Crusher OH, YEAH! I'm SO fired up! I'm gonna call Ness, Ganondorf, Mr. Game and Watch, Falco, and Jigglypuff will be announced to finish the roster. I may be wrong, but this is my call. XD
Zekewars010
said at 7:52 PM on Mon Sep 1 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I CAN HARDLY WAIT!
SteelEthlan
said at 8:25 PM on Mon Sep 1 2014
@Nightmare Crusher This time my call for these characters i officially and personally wanted to be in smash bros wii u/3ds if possible:

Falco (He needs a new moveset but tweak him to be aerial based with a new finishing move that makes him doing a down forward left kick instead of right, a new up special that is wind based rather than fire, and new side special that he can reach higher than fox but not as high as wolf which it could be pretty effective and it should be indigo instead along with the reflector and "Wind Falco" technique don't ask why i made this up you know what i'm talking about. Anyway back to Falco, his last thing that it needs to be totally changed is his final smash alone this it needs to be arwing)

Wolf (It needs a different moveset with the up special that starts him using his claws and then ends with a foot that would be very cool)

Krystal (I may think she'll have a slight mixure of martial arts and Magic Staff with elements and psychokinesis she'll utilize and her final smash could be one of the cloudrunner summon through telepathy maybe in 3rd perspective view with attacks we never seen)

Ness (I dunno)

Lucas? (I don't know about his return if he would have a different moveset)

Sceptile (We just need a grass type in this game right now there's charizard and greninja so it makes sense if there's another gen starter with 3rd evolution and his final smash that should be solar beam)

Mewtwo (He needs to return with new movesets in the custom movesets & should be tweaked)

Or

Jigglypuff (Alright i know it would return because it was part of the original 12 and from what i heard in brawl it was supposed to be scrapped for some reason and from what i've seen of her she seems just average at best i don't know i personally think she'll never come back if there's any other option but other than that it's assumed that she'll return if be buffed and i'll be like whatever.)

Dixie (Needs a new final smash that was electronic guitar that had a shockwave effect)

King K. Rool (Needs a new villain cause there's only Bowser)

Ganondorf (Needs a new moveset but keep the ones that was so original to him and this time he'll have a mixure of brawl, swordfight & sorcery instead of brawl alone that could keep him from being a semi-clone of Captain Falcon)

Lip? (I don't know what her moveset looks like but if Sakurai and his team do enough research what it's based on the game back them i'll be cool with that)

Ridley? (It could potentially happen but i'm not sure how he plays maybe the details speaks for itself)

Wario (Just his new moveset that was based on Wario Land 1-4 and Wario Land: Shake It! that's it but leave the WarioWare one because his moveset is absolutely original although it needs to be much tweaked and nerfed)

Captain Maple Syrup (Well sure why not)

Or

Mona (Well it could work if her moveset is based on wario ware games with any other fighting touch but it's just me)

Black Shadow? (People think that he should have a "Falcondorf" moveset but then again it needs to be original other than that i am not very sure)

Porky? (I originally chosen Gigyas man but screw it and i gotta say maybe)

Bandanna Dee? (Well since there's no other spear type characters i wouldn't mind him being playable he's unlike any other waddle dees)

Dark Pit? (I don't know when to say this but since he had his own expressions and personality and his own weapons either he'll be playable or as an alternate costume either way he isn't an alter ego he may look similar to pit but there are any differences i guess we still have to wait and see).

I won't say much to others that was really going to be confirmed but if there's any characters i was going to exclude is:

Dr. Mario (First of all he really should be more of an alt than a character which he is still mario in a doctor outfit that is until dr. luigi would take over)

Chorus Boys (Just no i rather have him as a trophy, sticker and as an assist trophy cause they have zero ideas for a moveset it would end up like any other fighters we know with a minor differences so i rather not see them as fighters and if i do i was gonna say screw this i won't ever see these face)

Duck Hunt Dog (Why of all people wanted him to be in this game? I'm going to be legitimately honest with you guys i rather have him as an assist trophy than being playable)

That's how i feel about when i'm hoping each characters i include and exclude to be in smash bros wii u/3ds in any case.

Which characters you would like to see in smash bros 4 wii u/3ds? (If you see what i did there) If so let me know. (heh that kinda rhymed)
SteelEthlan
said at 3:34 PM on Wed Sep 3 2014
@SteelEthlan Also Wolf's final smash that should be wolfen in first person much like samus but in more different way.
ajhz
said at 8:04 AM on Sun Aug 31 2014
So I guess the leaks are true
SteelEthlan
said at 2:29 PM on Sun Aug 31 2014
@ajhz No duh it is.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:47 PM on Sun Aug 31 2014
@ajhz We pretty much knew that the moment video footage was uploaded, but Shulk's reveal and his render matching the leaked images is the clincher that should kill all doubt (if anyone was still doubting it for whatever reason).

It's not the first time, if it's any condolence. Melee and Brawl both had their rosters leaked. This is the first time there was visual evidence, though. That said, the Brawl leaks were so specific (saying things like Dragoon and its function, Olimar and his moves, the exact date Sonic would be revealed, that it would be delayed twice) they didn't need visual evidence. Despite that, people were so excited for the game that virtually nobody believed them, amazingly enough. Ah, simpler times.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:16 PM on Sun Aug 31 2014
@NCZ I still remember the reactions when that leak dropped.
"Three Star Fox characters? No way!"
"Where's Mega Man?"
"Toon Link? Sakurai said no clones!"
"ROB is an enemy in Subspace!"
"Mewtwo cut? FAKE!"
The poor saps.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:48 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
Remember that Wario screw-up Nintendo made on the e-shop? Looks like they've one upped themselves by showing what appears to be Ganondorf in the Direct.
http://i.imgur.com/kTpx6Kl.png
Whoops.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:24 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Maybe Nintendo just don't care in light of recent events.

That is a pretty bad mistake, though. You'd think if they wanted to capture footage, they'd know not to use characters who haven't been announced yet.

It's not as bad as the Brawl video which accidentally revealed Lucario, Ness, and Jigglypuff about a week before launch, but geez.
DravenRoth994
said at 1:26 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
Shulk huh??! I admit I have Xenoblade but never got that far yet. I just can't seem to get into it. I'm a little more partial to The Last Story as well, and I have trouble navigating in Xenoblade. Seeing him here though (and watching his trailer), it makes me want to try again.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:14 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Buy both the 3DS and Wii U versions, receive a free soundtrack from Club Nintendo!

http://club2.nintendo.com/smash-promo/
Dogman15
said at 6:23 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@NCZ Now that I can get behind.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:56 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
Put Samus in the ending outfits that she's had for years gets you outrage. Put Shulk in nothing but trunks and no one bats an eye. The Internet ladies and gentlemen!
Jessica Marra
said at 4:26 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
WOW! Shulk is officially in! I watched the trailer and heard his English voice, but I have no clue who it is. Does anyone know???
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:39 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@Jessica Marra Funny that Shulk gets announced mere days after I finally got ahold of a reasonably-priced copy of Xenoblade.

Haven't really played the game yet to compare, but I think it's Adam Howden again. Good to hear that he's still English!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:48 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@NCZ I'm pretty sure it's Adam Howden or at least someone who sounds an awful lot like him. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam tweets something about it soon.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:48 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@Jessica Marra More or less confirmed via a clever pun:
https://twitter.com/A_HOWDZ/status/505346859897192448
GothamRed
said at 11:01 AM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@Jessica Marra Also it's neat that Rikki and Dunban are in there too, even if it looks like Rikki is just a taunt and part of his final smash and Dunban is just the latter.
VGAfanatic
said at 4:28 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@GothamRed I kinda wonder if Fiora will appear in the game as an Assist Trophy.
GothamRed
said at 6:30 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@VGAfanatic I want Reyn, cause it's never a bad time for "REYN TIME!" (which Shulk stole in his trailer. NO, no Shulk Time!)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:20 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@GothamRed It also looks like Metal Face will be a stage boss.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:21 PM on Mon Aug 25 2014
I can see why many of the cuts are upsetting to people, but I personally can live with them. I never really used most of those characters although I am gonna miss one of them. Besides, I like some of the new characters.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:08 PM on Tue Aug 26 2014
@Nightmare Crusher On the bright side, today's Mario Kart news has me hoping that at least 2-3 of those veterans could come back as DLC. Their absence is my only problem with the game's roster. Add them back in, and it's perfect.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:15 PM on Tue Aug 26 2014
@NCZ That is a distinct possibility. I'd rather have DLC be for more newcomers, but I'd gladly pay to see the one character I mentioned back.
VGAfanatic
said at 4:29 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I think a good deal of characters cut from this game would be great to return as DLC, as well as few other rumored leaked fighters, like Mewtwo and Impa.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:45 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@VGAfanatic Seeing as how the devs seem to have no problem with clones this time around, I could see Impa being a Sheik semi-clone... as long as she gets decloned in the next game (unlike two other Zelda characters).

As for veterans, I think (CHARACTER REMOVED #1) and (CHARACTER REMOVED #2) have a very good shot at being DLC at some point, with (CHARACTER REMOVED #3) being a maybe. I think (CHARACTERS REMOVED) are gone for good though.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:56 AM on Mon Aug 25 2014
Yes, I am aware of the roster leak.

No, I'm not adding them to the page.

Please try not to discuss the specific characters as I'd like to keep this page spoiler-free. You can look up who the remaining characters are if you want but I'd hate to ruin the surprise for other people.
Dogman15
said at 1:03 AM on Tue Aug 26 2014
@NCZ As long as you agree the leaks were/are real.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:47 AM on Tue Aug 26 2014
@Dogman15 Of course I do? Given everything that went down yesterday it's nigh impossible for them to be fake.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:25 PM on Tue Aug 26 2014
@NCZ There are a surprising amount of people still saying it's fake. Although their reasoning basically amounts to, "I don't like it so it can't be true!"
VGAfanatic
said at 4:29 PM on Fri Aug 29 2014
@NCZ It's the smart thing to do. After all, it's not official until Sakurai says so.
SteelEthlan
said at 7:25 PM on Sun Aug 24 2014
I may think which cast of characters i personally choose to list number of voice actors they would officially and possibly voice:

#1) Mario, Luigi & Wario voiced by: Charles Martinet

#2) Bowser voiced by: Kenny James (I really want him to have the monstrous animal sounds instead of the stupid animal sound effects it's unfitting for me)

#3) Princess Peach voiced by: Samantha (Sam) Kelly

#4) Princess Rosalina voiced by: Laura Faye Smith

#5) Donkey Kong voiced by: Dee Bradley Baker (He'll do excellent as DK due to his talents at making animal sounds)

• Donkey Kong Seiyuu by: Takashi Nagasako

#6) Diddy Kong voiced by: Chris Sanders

• Diddy Kong Seiyuu by: Katsumi Suzuki

#7) Dixie Kong voiced by: Ashleigh Ball

• Dixie Kong Seiyuu by: Kahoru Sasajima

#7) King K. Rool voiced by: Daran Norris

• King K. Rool Seiyuu by: Toshihide Tsuchiya

#8) Yoshi voiced by: Kazumi Totaka

#9) Link voiced by: Todd Haberkorn (I replace the roles by Bryce Papenbrook for voicing Hyrule Warriors Link and then i swtich back to Todd Haberkorn if he has a chance if not oh well)

• Link Seiyuu by: Akira Sasanuma

#10) Princess Zelda voiced by: Danielle Judovits

• Zelda Seiyuu by: Jun Mizusawa

#11) Sheik voiced by: Danielle Judovits

• Sheik seiyuu by: Jun Mizusawa

#12) Toon Link be possibly voiced by: Michele Specht

• Toon Link seiyuu by: Sachi Matsumoto

#13) Ganondorf be possibly voiced by: Keith Szarabajka

• Ganondorf seiyuu by: Hironori Miyata

#14) Fox voiced by: Jim Walker

#15) Falco voiced by: Dex Manley

#16) Wolf voiced by: Jay Ward

#17) Krystal voiced by: Alesia Glidewell

#18) Pikachu voiced by Ikue Otani

#19) Charizard voiced by Shinichiro Miki

#20) Greninja be possibly voiced by Derek Stephen Prince

#21) Sceptile voiced by: Bill Rogers

#22) Lucario voiced by: Sean Schemmel

#23) Mewtwo be possibly voiced by: David Kaye

#24) Kirby voiced by: Makiko Omoto

#25) King Dedede be possibly voiced by: Jim Cummings

• Dedede Seiyuu by: Shinya Kumazaki

#26) Meta Knight be possibly voiced by: J Michael Tatum

#27) Samus voiced by: No Voice Actor

#28) Zero Suit Samus voiced by: Alesia Glidewell

#29) Ridley be possibly voiced by: Steve Blum

#30) Marth voiced by: Spike Spencer

#31) Ike voiced by: Jason Adkins

#32) Robin (Male) voiced by: David Vincent

#32 Alt.) Robin (Female) voiced by: Michelle Ruff

#33) Lucina voiced by: Laura Bailey

#34) Pit voiced by: Antony Del Rio

#35) Palutena voiced by: Brandy Kopp

#36) Captain Falcon be possibly voiced by: Brian Drummond

• Captain Falcon Seiyuu by: Ryo Horikawa

#37) Mr. Game & Watch voiced by: No voice actor

#38) Wii Fit Trainer (Female) voiced by: October Moore

#38 Alt.) Wii Fit Trainer (Male) voiced by: Steve Heinke

#39) Mii Fighters (Male) voiced by: Fumihiro Okabayashi

#40 Alt.) Mii Fighters (Female) voiced by: Ayumi Nagao

#41) Little Mac voiced by: Matt Harty

#42) Megaman voiced by: Cole Howard

#43) Sonic voiced by: Roger Craig Smith

• Sonic seiyuu by: Junichi Kanemaru

#44) Pac-Man: Tommy James

#45) Shulk: Adam Howden

#46) Ness be possibly voiced by: Kim Mai Guest

• Ness Seiyuu by: Makiko Omoto

This is what i personally would like to see it altogether.

If you want any other character you would personally see it both officially and possibly i'll be fine with it.

That's just my official and personal list of characters and voices.
Aelvir
said at 6:15 PM on Sat Jan 17 2015
@SteelEthlan Woulda went with Nagasako also for Ganondorf : But whatevs
SteelEthlan
said at 7:38 PM on Sat Jan 17 2015
@Aelvir Dude/Dudette you do know that Nagasako only voiced Ocarina of Time/Wind Waker Ganondorf and not the Twilight Princess one.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:07 PM on Thu Aug 21 2014
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqGQlAaeiw
Ghirahim's tongue looks like it's dropping at a very steep angle. It's weird even for him.
SteelEthlan
said at 1:29 PM on Fri Aug 22 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yup that part is what i totally called it.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:37 PM on Wed Aug 20 2014
So, yesterday there were a bunch of supposed leaked pictures from the game. While they looked more convincing than your average leak, there were still flaws in them and the guy's story of how he got them made little sense and I dismissed them as being fake. But then came today's Famitsu. It turns out that the leak showed a part of the Tomodachi Life stage that wasn't in the POD we already had of it, but that was in the Famitsu that just came out after the leak.
http://i.imgur.com/aoYlUTC.png
I hate to be one of those guys, but I think we may have something here. I should note that the leaker claims that this is NOT the full roster.
http://i.imgur.com/7epqFJU.jpg
I'm not even sure what to believe anymore.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:37 PM on Wed Aug 20 2014
@Nightmare Crusher All I can say is that if it's real and the allegedly-cut characters are truly cut, I will feel very, very nauseous.

Nonetheless, I will treat this the way I treat every other leak. False until Nintendo themselves prove it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:49 PM on Wed Aug 20 2014
Going to leave this here:

http://i.imgur.com/QPXeK6Y.jpg
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:56 PM on Wed Aug 20 2014
@NCZ Yeah, I literally just found that image before coming on here. It puts a pretty big dent in the leak. I guess we'll know for sure if we get a reveal for one of the characters in the leak. If the render doesn't match it's completely dead.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:29 AM on Thu Aug 21 2014
@NCZ So that's what the leaker took and ripped the pictures right out of the video of Super Smash Bros. Brawl so in that case i would consider this leak 15% real 85% fake for my calculative standards.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:13 PM on Sun Aug 24 2014
@NCZ Actually, that image isn't as definitive as it looks. The only thing that really matches is the hidden pupil, which, as it turns out, is present on both of Wario's Brawl renders to differing degrees. Sadly, this thing is still up in the air until we get a reveal for a character in the leak to see if the render matches.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:44 AM on Mon Aug 25 2014
@Nightmare Crusher It's real.
ConfusedPhantom
said at 12:29 AM on Wed Aug 20 2014
I'm hoping this game's Link has Yuki Kaji as well.
SteelEthlan
said at 11:04 AM on Thu Aug 21 2014
@ConfusedPhantom Mmm...doubt it they'll have Akira Sasanuma to voice Adult Link again not the one in Hyrule Warriors right now i'm sure of it.
TrueMyriad
said at 7:34 AM on Tue Aug 19 2014
Anybody else want to hear Megumi Ogata(Japanese) and Casey Mongillo(English) as the voices if Toon Link?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:21 AM on Mon Aug 18 2014
The Japanese 3DS version has finished development. It's only a matter of time until we get the full roster.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:36 AM on Mon Aug 18 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Oh baby.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:03 PM on Mon Aug 18 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Oh boy and that's excellent.

So there's still a chance for us to know which characters that was supposed to be in this game right?
SteelEthlan
said at 9:55 PM on Sun Aug 17 2014
I really think that J Michael Tatum may do an excellent Meta Knight voice.
TrueMyriad
said at 11:15 AM on Sun Aug 17 2014
Guys, check this out:
https://twitter.com/tailschannel/status/501057009060290562
TrueMyriad
said at 12:29 PM on Sun Aug 17 2014
@TrueMyriad darn it, the link stopped working. Long story short, it had the following characters in the roster for the Japanese version:
Marshall
Ganondorf
ROB
Ice Climbers
Falco
Wolf
Ness
Game and Watch
Wario
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:58 PM on Sun Aug 17 2014
@TrueMyriad I looked up that Twitter and it's just some guy who's a fan of Sonic. Where did you get this character list from? I don't see it on there.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:23 PM on Sun Aug 17 2014
@TrueMyriad

There are at least six thousand fake "leaks" about this game made by people trying to get attention. None of them deserve any attention. The game launches in Japan in less than a month so the best thing to do is be patient.
TrueMyriad
said at 4:39 PM on Sun Aug 17 2014
@NCZ your right. I'm still curious as to what more characters are coming back or are entering the series.
SteelEthlan
said at 4:49 PM on Wed Aug 13 2014
None the less he is confirmed as a playable character finally.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:25 PM on Sun Aug 10 2014
That new Meta Knight design though!

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlhcJMgZQ
SteelEthlan
said at 9:27 AM on Sat Aug 9 2014
Anyone wants to hear Brian Drummond make an excellent Captain Falcon voice in this game?
MadMax13
said at 4:02 AM on Mon Aug 11 2014
@SteelEthlan Only one man is worthy of voicing the almighty Falcon...
SteelEthlan
said at 4:33 PM on Thu Aug 14 2014
@MadMax13 Let me guess Ryo Horikawa.

Hey that's just my personal pick to the voice actor of captain falcon.
YoshinoVA
said at 12:59 AM on Sun Aug 3 2014
I would love to have Mercedes or Laura back as Rosalina in this case.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:01 AM on Sun Aug 3 2014
@YoshinoVA Laura would be back as Rosalina after all she is the current voice actress for rosalina.
Zekewars010
said at 7:22 PM on Fri Aug 1 2014
I forgot some others in my dream cast.

Mewtwo- Cristina Vee
Roy- Todd Haberkorn
Ridley- Clancy Brown
Ghirahim- Anri Katsu
Shulk- Adam Howden
Impa- Rei Shimoda
Krystal- Alesia Glidewell
Anthony- Mike McGillicuty

That is all :)
SteelEthlan
said at 7:43 PM on Sat Aug 2 2014
@Zekewars010 Ah i see you think the same thing that i would like to see Todd Haberkorn would voice roy.

If there's any few characters i would except is Ghirahim, Impa, Anthony & Roy i honestly think they won't be in in smash bros. wii u/3ds.

But it's just my perspective.
Zekewars010
said at 7:30 AM on Mon Aug 4 2014
@SteelEthlan To be honest, neither do I. Except for Ghirahim
SteelEthlan
said at 6:07 PM on Mon Aug 4 2014
@Zekewars010 Hmm alright and to be honest we only need one different villain from one different series alone which again is my perspective.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:21 PM on Mon Aug 4 2014
@SteelEthlan Only one villain you say? I think I know who the best candidate is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT0A3lPvzEU
SteelEthlan
said at 7:01 PM on Mon Aug 4 2014
@NCZ Yeah that's what i'm getting at and i think he may have a chance that he'll be playable in Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS.

And that makes 2 villains i guess.
Zekewars010
said at 7:04 AM on Wed Aug 6 2014
@NCZ Great point!
xstationo
said at 1:10 PM on Wed Aug 13 2014
@Zekewars010 Why Cristina Vee as Mewtwo, didn't he have a male-like voice, he should be voiced by Dan Green.
SteelEthlan
said at 4:48 PM on Wed Aug 13 2014
@xstationo That's just his/her list about who's gonna voice who.
Zekewars010
said at 7:51 PM on Mon Sep 1 2014
@xstationo I chose Cristina Vee in case they wanted to do the "Gensect and the Legend Awakened" voice. But agree with you about Dan Green.
Zekewars010
said at 7:51 PM on Mon Sep 1 2014
@SteelEthlan And alas, you are right!
Zekewars010
said at 1:05 PM on Fri Aug 1 2014
Here is my dream cast for this game.

Mario/Luigi/Wario- Charles Martinet
Donkey Kong/Ganondorf- Takasahi Nagasako
Link- Akira Sadnuma
Yoshi- Kazumi Totaka
Kirby/Ness- Makiko Ohmoto
Fox- Jim Walker
Pikachu- Ikue Otani
Captain Falcon- Hideyuki Tanka
Bowser- Kenny James
Peach- Samantha Kelly
Zelda- Yu Shimamura
Shiek- Jun Mizusawa
Ice Climbers- Sanae Kobayashi
Marth- Spike Spencer
Mr. Game and Watch- NONE
Falco- Dex Manley
Meta Knight- Eric Newsome
Pit- Antony Del Rio
Zero Suit Samus- Jessica Martin
Olimar- NONE
Lucas- Lani Manella
Diddy Kong- Katsumi Suzuki
Charizard- Shinichiro Miki
King Dedede- Masahiro Sakurai
Lucario- Sean Schemmel
Ike- Jason Adkins
R.O.B- NONE
Jigglypuff- Rachel Lillis
Toon Link- Sachi Matsumoto
Wolf- Jay Ward
Snake- David Hayter
Sonic- Roger Craig Smith
Villager- TBA
Mega Man- Chris Cason
Wii Fit Trainer- October Moore
Rosalina- Laura Faye Smith
Little Mac- Matt Harty
Greninja- Bill Rogers
Palutena- Brandy Kopp
Pac Man- Erin Matthews
Lucina- Laura Bailey
Robin- David Vincent (Male)/Michelle Ruff (Female)

FUN FACT: On Twitter, Jessica Martin (3 times), Chris Cason, and Spike Spencer have told me that they want to play their respective characters again.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:56 PM on Fri Aug 1 2014
@Zekewars010 Seriously? So i'm not the only one who wants Spike Spencer to voice marth again.

That's a nifty list you got made it here yet i would have Tommy James as a good Pac-Man.

And snake is not going to come back i'm afraid because he's no longer on a nintendo platform this year and the fact we already have enough third party characters in their own franchises all 3 of them from 80s and 90s.

Also i really want sceptile being in smash bros. wii u and 3ds because he's a gen 4 grass starter type and the fact we have charizard now as a stand alone character and greninja as a newcomer cutting squirtle so sceptile would fit nicely completing in 5 pokemon representatives cutting pokemon trainer and ivysaur altogether.

And that will leave one more that would be either mewtwo or jigglypuff but it's just my perspective.

And Chris Cason voicing Mega Man the original one? I don't see it happening in my eyes yet i rather have Cole Howard do the voice of Mega Man back like he did in Mega Man Powered Up.
Zekewars010
said at 7:15 PM on Fri Aug 1 2014
@SteelEthlan 1. Yes. Looks like we both want Marth to be voiced by Spike Spencer.

2. Not familiar with Tommy James

3. I'm not hopeful for Snake, but if he does, Hayter is the way to go.

4. We'll most likely get 2 more Pokémon, and they'll most likely be Mewtwo and Jigglypuff.

4. Anyone but Ruth Shirashi is fine by me!
SteelEthlan
said at 8:30 PM on Fri Aug 1 2014
@Zekewars010 For 1. Whoo! Thank goodness.

2. I understand.

3. I get ya.

4. I can quite see where you are getting at about putting both mewtwo and jigglypuff in smash bros. wii u/3ds but... It's just debatable between the two for me.

And honestly i rather have mewtwo over jigglypuff because he appears recently in pokemon origins and few of new pokemon movies that he was now relevent again.

And 5. Kay.

Bonus: I'm going to be pretty honest, i rather have Alesia Glidewell as Samus again over Jessica Martin.
Zekewars010
said at 8:12 AM on Sat Aug 2 2014
@SteelEthlan Let's hope every voice actor is fantastic!
SteelEthlan
said at 4:51 PM on Sat Aug 2 2014
@Zekewars010 We'll see.
Cartoonguy133
said at 6:04 PM on Mon Aug 11 2014
@Zekewars010 You want Mega Man to be voiced by the guy who voiced Bad Box Art Mega Man?
SteelEthlan
said at 4:43 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
I honestly think that it was Michelle Ruff would return voicing as Robin (Female) who should be called Robine.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:21 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
@SteelEthlan Robine? Why?
SteelEthlan
said at 8:54 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I don't know i just thought that robine is a female name of robin to be honest.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:57 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
@SteelEthlan Robin is gender-neutral. Besides, you don't have to be a certain gender to have a certain name, even if it is considered strange.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:08 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah that's a legitimate good point you have here i'll take that back about the whole naming robine thing.
xstationo
said at 1:11 PM on Wed Aug 13 2014
@SteelEthlan What about Nico Robin from One Piece?
SteelEthlan
said at 4:47 PM on Wed Aug 13 2014
@xstationo Ehh... That was her first and last name that's it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:24 PM on Mon Jul 28 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Anyone else see the pic of the day today? I now know what emotional whiplash feels like.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:29 PM on Mon Jul 28 2014
@NCZ It was an interesting one alright. Sakurai's comment just made it weirder. I hear that in Japan the image caption is even stranger.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:25 PM on Mon Jul 28 2014
@NCZ I didn't.
SteelEthlan
said at 11:25 AM on Sun Jul 27 2014
Anyone wants to see Tommy James do a voice for pac-man? I personally do.
NAFEDUDE
said at 5:18 PM on Fri Jul 25 2014
You know, what if instead of Snake, we got Big Boss? And if so, would we get David Hayter or Keifer Sutherland?
SteelEthlan
said at 8:32 PM on Tue Aug 5 2014
@NAFEDUDE Nah even the Big Boss Snake will make it any different because he's also a third party character from a third party franchise.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:40 PM on Thu Jul 24 2014
The 3DS eshop lists this game under games that feature Wario, so he's pretty much confirmed. Not that his return was ever in doubt.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:17 PM on Thu Jul 24 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Pretty clumsy slipup on Nintendo's part there. Could've been worse. At least it was a character everyone knows will be back versus someone like Snake.

Ashley and Waluigi using the WarioWare icon in the Direct also strongly implied he'd be back. My instinct is that Wario will be a hidden character this time around.
SteelEthlan
said at 12:52 PM on Tue Jul 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher That i saw which they made an accidental mistake i'm sure they would remove that in later time.
Jessica Marra
said at 9:27 AM on Thu Jul 24 2014
I watched a demo video of someone playing Smash bros Wii U at Comic Con in a match with Zero Suit Samus, Mega Man and Pit. Ok, it's obvious Antony Del Rio is Pit and trying to listen closely to Zero Suit Samus, it sounds like Alesia Glidewell reprises her again. I'm not sure but that's what it sounded like.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:01 PM on Thu Jul 24 2014
@Jessica Marra I think Alesia Glidewell will return the role as Zero Suit Samus.
NAFEDUDE
said at 5:07 PM on Fri Jul 25 2014
@Jessica Marra Thank god. Jessica Martin was terrible.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:15 PM on Sun Jul 27 2014
@Jessica Marra It has been stated that the Comic-Con demo was the same as the E3/Best Buy demo.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:17 PM on Tue Jul 22 2014
It's beginning to look more and more likely that November 21st is the release date for the Wii U version.

Incidentally, Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are also launching on the same day. Say goodbye to your wallets, everyone!
SteelEthlan
said at 5:01 PM on Tue Jul 22 2014
@NCZ What? Seriously? The Wii U version of Super Smash Bros. is going to be released in November 21st?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:12 PM on Tue Jul 22 2014
@SteelEthlan It's not officially confirmed yet, but numerous retailers are listing that as the release date. A moderator at Smashboards has alleged that these retailers have said date in their files and that November 21st is indeed the target date for distribution, although it hasn't been completely finalized by NOA yet. Not to mention, it's a sensible and highly plausible time for the game to be released anyway.

A few other games had this happen to them recently--I believe that Persona Q had November 25th pinned down by a few outlets, and only just today did Atlus confirm it as the release date.

My guess is that the release date announcement is one of the "special surprises" that Nintendo said they'd have in store for Comic-Con.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:34 PM on Tue Jul 22 2014
@NCZ Oh right i thought i was officially confirmed for super smash bros. wii u thanks for pointing it out for me.

That and sonic boom is going to be released in the same day as Persona Q.

Huh? That would be pretty cool but sadly for me i cannot go to comic-con cause i just have zero plans to be in there but other than that i might be interested if nintendo announce it there will be in store for comic-con.

Yeah this is just me getting off topic.
Jessica Marra
said at 5:38 PM on Mon Jul 21 2014
In case u guys heard about he Japanese magazine Corocoro releasing all the characters and stages for the 3DS, turns out they're NOT doing it.

I guess they decided to wait until the 3DS version is released in Japan on September 13 to reveal the rest of the characters. I guess they did the right thing. I'm just praying that Ness, Falco, Ganondorf, and Meta Knight will make the cut. What do u guys think???
Mikel
said at 10:45 AM on Tue Jul 22 2014
@Jessica Marra It would be rude to spoil all of the characters before the game is even released, so I can understand why they aren't doing it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:42 AM on Tue Jul 22 2014
@Jessica Marra If you ask me, based on all the evidence and hints we've had so far, it seems a reasonable assumption that everybody who appeared in Brawl is safe with the exception of Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur.

The only veteran whose chances are truly up in the air is Mewtwo due to its absence from Brawl.
JustLyrics
said at 11:45 AM on Sat Jul 19 2014
I hope by some small miracle we're given the choice to change Robin (M)'s voice actor. Not that there's anything wrong with David V. It's just I found Brandon Karrer to be a stronger Robin. Also, I miss Roy -- would rather him over Lucina, especially seeing as what we've been able to observe so far: their moves are identical.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:20 PM on Sat Jul 19 2014
@JustLyrics Lucina was originally planned to be an alternate skin for Marth and nothing more. However, they decided to promote her to her own separate slot and tweak her a little bit. That's why she's so similar to Marth; she wasn't initially planned to be a full-fledged character. She's more of an extra cherry on the roster sundae than a major new addition.

Why did this happen? For one, Lucina is very popular among the fanbase, certainly among the most popular from Awakening. That is a likely factor that would have caused the dev team to reconsider their plan--it allows a popular character to be officially part of the roster at little cost.

On the other hand, Roy is relatively unpopular compared to the various other Lords. Marth, Ike, Robin, and Lucina are all more popular than him, and even Lords not yet represented in SSB like Hector, Lyn, Ephraim, and Sigurd have him beat. He also was not originally planned to be in Melee and was only added as one of the last-minute clones thrown in to beef up the roster. Couple that with his absence from Brawl and it seems Roy is gone with the wind as far as Smash is concerned.

Much of the popularity he does have comes from his appearance in Melee rather than his own game. The main reason he's missed is because he and Mewtwo were the only cuts who were distinct identities rather than variations of other characters.
johnk.figueroa
said at 11:08 AM on Fri Jul 18 2014
Although Lucina is a clone from Marth, I like how they added a great female character. And of course, It's awesome that Laura Bailey voices her.
VGAfanatic
said at 12:29 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
Why don't you have Roger Craig Smith listed as Sonic? Look up any gameplay demo, and you'll hear that he is voicing Sonic in the game. Same with Charles Martinet as Mario and Luigi (even if it is just their stock footage from Brawl).
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:34 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@VGAfanatic "(even if it is just their stock footage from Brawl)"

There's your answer. Reused sound clips in a demo build have no bearing on the final game.

I've said before that I'm not adding any credits if the only "source" is reused sound clips, since those can very easily be placeholders. In Sonic's case, all of his clips come from games like Colours, Generations, and Lost World. I'd rather not spread any misinformation.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 7:38 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
I'm not sure if anyone saw the picture Sakurai posted after the reveal the other day, but I want to speculate

...

Rayman. Do you think Douglas Rand will still voice him or will they try to bring back David Gasman?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:39 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Rayman's just a trophy; he's not going to be playable.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 11:24 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@NCZ - A random 3rd party character being just a trophy? Sakurai can be a troll, but I don't think he'd stoop that low.

Remember how they teased how Zero Suit Samus was gonna get axed before they revealed her?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:35 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Rayman's trophy was revealed on the same day as the New Fighter announcement. I'd think that if Rayman was an actual character in the game, they'd go all the way and outright say he's playable.

I have no 100% idea why his trophy is in the game, but a credible insider on NeoGAF claimed that Ubisoft asked Nintendo if Rayman could be in the game, but they turned the offer down (let's face it, Sonic + Mega Man + Pac-Man + Rayman would be overkill). As a compromise, he has a trophy instead.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 12:09 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@NCZ - Well Game and Watch was also seen alongside Pac-Man when he was revealed, yet he hasn't gotten an official reveal (yet) so I'm not ruling him out on that just yet.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:19 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Difference is that Game & Watch has precedent on his side. He's a two-time Smash veteran, so we all know he's going to be in the new one. As for Rayman, a third-party character is kind of a big deal. Something you'd want to actually announce, especially on the same day there is planned to be a character announcement. If he is, they would have said so.

Also, John Harker, the NeoGAF poster I was talking about, is a very credible, well-respected user with genuine insider information, being part of the game developer community, so I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about. I highly doubt Rayman is playable.

Lastly, Smash is a Nintendo crossover first and foremost. Having four third-party characters takes away the integrity of the series. Especially since Sakurai said in Brawl that 2 or 3 was the limit.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:32 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Oh, and as one last thing that should close this case really tightly, Ubisoft's official Rayman facebook page says that Rayman is only a trophy, rather than saying he's playable.

https://www.facebook.com/rayman/photos/a.147085182159900.1073741828.131255823742836/263553863846364/?type=1&relevant_count=1
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:28 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
In a recent interview Sakurai said that Lucina was going to be a costume for Marth before they decided to play around with giving her attacks different properties. What I find more interesting is that it basically confirms that alt costumes can cover other, similar characters. I know I'm not the first to say this, but I'm going to bet that Dark Pit will be a Pit costume with different dialogue.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 7:36 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@Nightmare Crusher - So she's basically Roy's successor
Jessica Marra
said at 3:25 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
Hey, if Michelle Ruff isn't the voice of the female Robin, who is???
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:57 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@Jessica Marra It could also be Wendee Lee, since she was the other custom voice in Awakening. Once the excitement wore off I watched the trailer again and now I'm not entirely sure which of the two it is. After the whole Ali Hillis/Brandy Kopp thing, I've decided that it's better to be safe than sorry.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:55 AM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@NCZ I checked both Wendee Lee and Michelle Ruff's wiki pages, and it says that Michelle Ruff is the female Robin. I still think it is Michelle Ruff cause listening closely in the trailer, it was her.
Jessica Marra
said at 3:52 AM on Wed Jul 16 2014
A friend of mine on Facebook said that on August 12, a Japanese magazine called Corocoro will be announcing the rest of the character roster and stages for the 3DS version! Are u guys excited? Cause I am! Who do u guys think will make the cut??? XD
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:16 AM on Wed Jul 16 2014
@Jessica Marra They did the same thing for Brawl and it just turned out to be a list of already confirmed characters.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:37 AM on Wed Jul 16 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Really? I didn't know that for Brawl at the time. U really think they'll pull the same trick again for Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS? I'm sorry but that's kinda a troll joke. I wanna see if Ness, Ganondorf, Falco, Mr. Game and Watch, and Meta Knight or others made the cut. R they seriously gonna make us wait till the actual release date to see that???
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:39 AM on Wed Jul 16 2014
@Jessica Marra Worth noting is that around their time, Nintendo are likely to have another Nintendo Direct presentation, so I can guarantee we're getting at least one newcomer and probably a couple veterans before the game's out. Don't know if the magazine will cover it first, with that said. Nintendo seem to be very big on the whole "everyone around the world knows at once" thing.

Hyrule Warriors comes out in Japan around that time, so maybe someone from Zelda?
SteelEthlan
said at 7:04 PM on Wed Jul 16 2014
@Jessica Marra Well i'm not sure about this magazine name Corocoro but i'm kinda in-different about this.

And the only ones who would make the cut i think should be:



#1) Ganondorf (If i would think that the moveset should be a combination of Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time but keep the flame choke that it should be different from raptor boost from captain falcon alone,the warlock's boot that i would personally call that and finally Dark Gerudo another name i personally call it that).

#2) Mewtwo (No duh he'll be much useful character than jigglypuff is due to his relevance again in pokemon x & y with the mega evolution that should be a final smash and also his role about recent pokemon movies)

#3) Ness (Well just refine his moveset)

#4) Shulk (Well i think the detail about his moveset speak for itself)

#5) Sceptile (A grass type pokemon who's weight could be between charizard and greninja and also his mega evolution which like charizard and lucario can mega evolve

#6) Mr. Game & Watch (After i said he shouldn't be in this game that's coming from the guy who plays game and watch i may think he should be in the cut)

#7) Krystal i personally think one more female smasher (Or basher by someone else) should do the trick because she's the only character that had the element staff (Yes i call it element staff because that's the only thing that it should be really unique from other female fighters out there).

#8) Falco (They should give falco his own moveset but the blaster and reflector to kick like he did in brawl to make him stand out from fox and the final smash that should be arwing in 3rd person view that it functions like landmaster only on air that you can shoot two twin green laser in front in 3 directions and then press the shoulders l and r button to do the Aileron roll that's it i really need to jot down my ideal down in notes)

#9) Meta Knight (I really think they should tweak his moveset that wasn't fair and give him the downward stab that he had and the final smash should truly be galaxia darkness instead of covering his cape at the opponent and then slash like what 6 seconds just summon just 5 galaxia swords on the ground at which angle and direction oh and the finisher combo when meta knight slash many times when a player presses a enough times)

#10) Wolf (His final smash wolfen instead of landmaster recolor like samus's gunship in first person view but shoots blue twin laser instead and it fires in separate direction with the tilt angle with the press L and R button press these either shoulder buttons twice to do the barrel roll)

#11) R.O.B (Sure why not but get his moveset tweaked)

#12) Travis Touchdown (Well i never played No More Heroes but with his skills like that he might be playable so to speak)

That's i personally think they would make a cut.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:51 AM on Sun Jul 20 2014
@SteelEthlan Hold up scratch that i'm going to delist travis touchdown on my number twelve that i'll replace with Dixie Kong.
Bombermanp
said at 5:19 PM on Tue Jul 15 2014
i wish lucina had more of a original move set... i watched the reviel multiple times and i notice that she does not only share her move set with marth... she even shared his IDIOL ANIMATION
MaryKosmos
said at 8:11 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
In all honesty, the New Fighter Intro was one of the cruelest newcomer videos my siblings and I have ever seen. My sister felt extremely sad when Lucina was chosen over Chrom. I'm okay with Robin and truly happy for Captain Falcon, but sadly I don't think Lucina deserved to be her own character, both she and Palutena... :'(
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:37 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@MaryKosmos I can kind of understand Lucina (I wasn't expecting her, but she clearly didn't take a lot of time and resources to add, so if we get a beefier roster with lower effort, I can't complain), but I'm curious as to why you believe Palutena shouldn't have made the cut.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:59 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 1 Shout Out!
All right everyone, the all-important question. Wii U, 3DS, or both?

I'm looking at the "both" camp myself. At first I was thinking I could wait the extra month for just the Wii U version, but then I realised the 3DS version meant I could play it on the bus or during lunch breaks...
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:09 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ I was originally just going to get it for Wii U because I didn't want to drop a hundred bucks on a game all at once. Then they announced the separate release dates which moved into the both camp.
UltimateSSJ4GokouEX
said at 10:59 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Definitely Both!
Fulgore2005
said at 12:12 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ Both! I personally would love to have the best of both.
Dustinman2012
said at 4:53 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ I don't have a Wii U just yet. So for now, I'll get the 3DS version, which just so happens to come out 4 days before my birthday!
Ross123
said at 11:33 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ 3DS since I don't own a Wii U but you already knee that though I brought it up in case you forgot.
Heartfilia Mage 721
said at 12:27 PM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ 3DS since I don't own a Wii U and it doesn't look like I'm getting one anytime soon.
DravenRoth994
said at 5:39 PM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ Definitely both of them. I've also been wanting a portable Smash Brothers for years.
VGAfanatic
said at 12:27 PM on Thu Jul 17 2014
@NCZ Both. No question.
SteelEthlan
said at 3:35 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
@NCZ I'm extremely late for asking this but i'm thinking both.
TaylorJosephB
said at 3:12 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
LUCINA!

Also I'm so excited about the Robins.
SLEDGERAID
said at 3:03 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
Capt. Falcon is Finally here Now where is Ness man?
Dustinman2012
said at 10:05 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Captain Falcon is back!
UltimateSSJ4GokouEX
said at 9:20 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
I'm glad that David Vincent, Laura Bailey and Michelle Ruff are coming back to reprise their roles! :)
VGAfanatic
said at 8:44 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
It sounds more like Wendee Lee than it does Michelle Ruff.

Personally, I wanted Chrom to be in as playable. If anything, all three of them would've rounded out the Fire Emblem cast at 5, alongside Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

But hey, at least he made it in in some capacity.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:45 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@VGAfanatic If they need a fifth FE character, it should be Sigurd, Lyn, Hector, Ephraim/Eirika, or bust. Awakening is well-represented at this point.
Mikel
said at 8:48 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Lyn was already confirmed to be an Assist Trophy again back in the April 2014 Smash Bros. direct.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:50 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Mikel I know that, I'm saying that she would be a good fifth character if they ever needed one. Although I personally don't know if Fire Emblem will have five characters in Smash; I'm surprised that it even has four now.
Fulgore2005
said at 9:02 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Interesting ideas. Personally, I would have went for Libra as a possible newcomer. Seeing that he is known for both using an axe (attacks) as well as using a staff (healing).
RobZ92
said at 4:08 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ I think that if there were a fifth character it should be someone who doesnt wield a sword, Hector and Micaiah could be great options
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:40 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@RobZ92 Hector would be a good one. And if they wanted to complete the weapons triangle, they could get a lance user such as Sigurd or Ephraim. The former particularly, since he rides on horseback, would be very different from the other FE characters in the series so far. As for Micaiah, I think Ike seems to be doing fine bringing the Radiant Dawn love by himself.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:27 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ What about roy? He hasn't been in smash since in melee along with mewtwo.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:05 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@SteelEthlan Based on today's pic of the day, both of Roy's shticks have been taken. Lucina fills the Marth clone void, and that leaves Roy as another swordsman with little separating him from the other three. Sadly I have to say that Roy's time in the series has come and gone.
SteelEthlan
said at 11:48 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ Aww dang that could totally mean that it pretty much renders roy being a playable character in this game worthless.

Oh well i'm cool with lucina being playable i'm sure she may be her own character but not a skin of marth because of character heights.

And i guess i'm thinking basilio i'm not sure if he utilize the sword or a spear or an axe.
TrueMyriad
said at 8:39 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
Now if Jason Adkins resumes his role as Ike and if Marth was voiced by Spike Spencer, we'd have all Fire Emblem characters so far voiced in both English and Japanese, but I know that Jason Adkins will voice Ike and Marth will most likely remain speaking in Japanese.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:22 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@TrueMyriad Oh that's true and jason adkins will resume his role as ike.

And i asked spike spencer about voicing back as marth in super smash bros. for wii u and 3ds i'm not kidding.
TrueMyriad
said at 10:51 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@SteelEthlan seriously? Spike Spencer is Marth?
Jessica Marra
said at 1:42 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@SteelEthlan WHOA, wait a minute. Spike Spencer will be voicing Marth in the game or is that just a rumor??? Please reply back when u can. I know for sure Jason Adkins will be back as Ike again. :)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:51 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
I looked through his tweets and Spike claimed he hadn't been contacted about it. Matthew Mercer and Antony Del Rio also made statements like this and we know they've done stuff for the game, so it doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

Also, I've said this before, but my word of advice to everyone is that you don't ask voice actors if they're going to be in upcoming games. Due to NDAs and things like that, more often then not you won't be able to get a real response. If they can announce it, they'll announce it. If not, be patient and wait until the game is out.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:55 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ It's ok. I understand. I learned when it comes to voice acting, there are times the actors have to be quiet about their roles and wait till they're allowed to announce it publicly. But thanks for the info anyway. :)
SteelEthlan
said at 1:55 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@TrueMyriad I think so if he had a chance to get to it.

Not only that but he says that he would love to but he had no idea which game will he'll voice marth to.

And then i said to him: in super smash bros for wii u/3ds.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:28 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Jessica Marra I only asked him if could voice marth in smash 4 (Aka smash bros. wii u/3ds) not saying he is officially going to consider voicing marth we'll have to wait and see.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:29 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Yeah i guess you are right and we may have to wait and see.

I apologize for asking that type of question.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:12 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@SteelEthlan It's fine, no harm has been done. It's easy to get caught up in all the excitement for a game like this. That said, typically most voice actors will announce high-profile roles themselves if they can. Spike made press releases on his website for Blazblue, Lunar, Bravely Default, and a few other things, actually. And of course Sean Schemmel came out and confirmed he'd be back as Lucario.

Anyway, it's fine, all is well, but amid speculation all we can really do is wait and see how things go. That one Green Day song is oddly relevant right now.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:18 AM on Tue Jul 15 2014
@NCZ Yeah i understand.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:21 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Gonna update this page with the NPCs and misc characters we know of so far who are confirmed to be voiced (Dark Pit, Doc Louis, Chrom, Viridi, etc.) as a heads-up.
TrueMyriad
said at 8:16 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
Also that Matthew Mercer voices Chrom again
TrueMyriad
said at 8:15 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 1 Shout Out!
I hope that Laura Bailey, David Vincent, and Michelle Ruff resume their roles as Lucina, Robin(male), and Robin(female) respectively.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:20 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@TrueMyriad They do, as you can hear in the trailer.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:26 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Unless Nintendo got really good impersonators like with Palutena. Although it would be pretty incredible if they did.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:31 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Incredible if they got so many good impersonators that is. Still, it's probably the actual actors from Awakening.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:31 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@TrueMyriad Judging by the trailer (I put the link in a previous comment), It would seem they all returned.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:40 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Watch as it turns out Matthew Mercer was too busy to voice Chrom, so they get Troy Baker instead.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:47 PM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ God, Troy Baker is good at sounding a LOT like Matthew Mercer! I couldn't even tell the difference! :)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:46 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
I took some time off to recover from that new fighter trailer and next thing I knew 45 minutes had passed. It feels like Christmas has come early.
Jessica Marra
said at 7:36 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
OMG! YES! Lucina and Robin are in! And the one and only badass Captain Falcon is back, baby! Oh, and Chrom's in for a Final Smash, I think… Too bad he couldn't make the cut… eh, what are you gonna do?

This REALLY made me happy! But I do wonder who else is gonna come back now???
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:44 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Jessica Marra I'm actually glad we didn't get Chrom. As a fighter, there's nothing he can do that Marth and Ike can't. Robin was the smart choice.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:16 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Yeah, I agree. I'd fear he would just be a clone of Marth, or at least not enough moves to differentiate himself from Marth (or Ike). The fact we are getting Robin AND Lucina more than makes up for that.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:55 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 "I'd fear he would just be a clone of Marth" A shame that Lucina seems to be a Marth clone.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:00 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah, I noticed that too. Then again she was (SPOILERS) pretending to be Marth, so I guess its makes sense that she would have some of his moves. I just hope there are differences between them.
DravenRoth994
said at 7:24 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
CRAP I didn't watch it all the way through, CHROM'S IN TOO!!!!!!!!

TAKE. MY. MONEY!!!!!!!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:33 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 He's probably a part of Robin's FS. Maybe he'll be a costume too, IDK.
DravenRoth994
said at 7:39 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 Okay, nevermind. It seems he's only an assist trophy. Still cool though.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:44 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher You're right. Chrom is dead.
DravenRoth994
said at 7:45 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I was thinking that as well.
DravenRoth994
said at 7:47 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Huh, dead? What do you mean?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:52 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 I don't think there's any proof that he's an assist trophy. He just shows up in Robin's FS. There's also a rather ambiguous picture on the site of him with Robin, but not during the FS.

@NCZ And it seems that a certain leak has died with him. I'm honestly glad for that, leaks ruin the fun of guessing reveals.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:01 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 By "Dead", I just meant he's not in the game. Most people were expecting him to show up, but nope. He's not in.

@Nightmare Crusher Ah yes, THAT leak. I was fist-pumping when Lucina and Robin were revealed for that very reason. The leak was taking away a fair deal of my excitement for the game. The fact that it's dead means that now anything can happen, and it is glorious. Maybe we will get Ridley, Dixie, K. Rool, Isaac, etc. after all!
DravenRoth994
said at 8:03 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I actually posted that comment before I saw you responded. Yeah, looking at it again, It seems more like the final smash. There was a leak about Chrom?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:07 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 There was a leaker who emailed Sal Romano, owner of gematsu.com that listed characters who would be in the game.

Right before E3 2013, he claimed that Mega Man, Animal Crossing Guy, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man would be in the game. For all intents and purposes, this portion of the leak is true. However, Rosalina was revealed in the interim and was not predicted by this leak.

After that, it gets messier. Right before the April direct, he claimed that in addition to Miis and Pac-Man, we would also get:
- "Pokemon from X and Y" (we got Greninja)
- Palutena
- Chrom
- Shulk
- "Chorus Men" (presumably, the Glee Club from Rhythm Heaven DS)

Yesterday, the leaker claimed that Shulk would be the character revealed in today's presentation.

As you know, Greninja, Palutena, Miis, and Pac-Man had all been revealed since then. The fanbase was divided as to whether this guy was legit or just had a really good string of lucky guesses. Now that Chrom is confirmed to be out, the second part of the leak is bunk.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:23 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ You explained it much better than I would have. Whatever the case, I'm glad to see the leak finally put to bed, even if some are still holding on to it.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:26 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Oh, I see. I actually don't mind he isn't playable. In regards to that "leak", why would they do that? It just takes the fun out of everything. I haven't really played Rhythm Heaven but I don't think those characters would have made it in (or I guess describe it as a group). I could maybe understand Shulk, but the Chorus Men?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:30 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 Yep, it was pretty lame. I'm used to fighting games having their rosters leaked (every single Capcom fighter in the last few years), but Smash Bros. is different because it's such a huge crossover that the possibilities for speculation are limitless, so the idea of someone wanting to ruin the surprise really irks me.

I love the Rhythm Heaven games, but the CHorus Men are just too out there for me to accept. They're minor characters from one minigame in a three-game series, so I don't think they'd represent it too well. Karate Joe or maybe the samurai from Samurai Slice would be my first choices.

My standing on the leak is that the guy had E3 info (hence the first leak) and made up the rest. Most of the second leak is safe picks that the vast majority of people were suspecting, and the Chorus Men I suspect were thrown in to make it less predictable and "look legit". Smash has a tradition of adding characters from out of left field (Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B....), so I'd expect SSB4 to be the same. I just don't think it'll be the Chorus Men.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:46 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@NCZ Agreed. Although in regards to the last statement, I think they kind of did that already with the Wii Fit Trainer. I mean who was expecting her/him? Unless of course, they bring in yet another obscure character. Not that I would mind of course. Besides, the game has Luigi, Rosalina, Mii, Marth, Villager, Captain Falcon, and now Lucina and Robin. I think I'm set (for NOW at least).
DravenRoth994
said at 7:21 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
ITS ROBIN AND LUCINA!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ytrX0wweA

YES!! YES!!! YES!!!!!!!!
DravenRoth994
said at 7:29 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 Judging by the trailer, David Vincent and Michelle Ruff return. Along with Laura Bailey and Matthew Mercer. Sorry, I don't mean to confirm it already, I'm just SO HAPPY!!!
DravenRoth994
said at 7:30 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 Oh, and its great to see Captain Falcon back.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:11 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
And everyone said it was gonna be Shulk. Me, I'm just glad to finally see the Captain.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:35 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
Pre-Reveal conspiracy theory time! The Rayman trophy hints at another Ubisoft character that would look much weirder in Smash! Ezio confirmed! (Not really)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:59 AM on Mon Jul 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I have my fingers crossed for Travis Touchdown.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:13 PM on Sun Jul 13 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKl3TMQjFQ

Holy crap.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:30 PM on Sat Jul 12 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Remember the last time Nintendo made an announcement they would be revealing a new character for one of their Wii U games? And do you know who that turned out to be?

http://i.imgur.com/OyiZs5h.gif
SteelEthlan
said at 12:03 PM on Sat Jul 12 2014
Hey guys just i would inform ya that there's going to be another newcomer which was revealed in this monday so if you guys which characters you would like to see let me know i'll give my response.

Me? I would choose shulk because why not he had the monado which had 8 monado arts which easily makes him a unique swordsman (Or beamswordsman if i would call him that) to the other swordfighters we all know.

But know this, it would only open at 7pm so keep a sharp eye on that or else you'll never find out who it is.

It's just my facts and perspective.

With that out of the way, i got other things to check on.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:19 PM on Sat Jul 12 2014
@SteelEthlan Shoot i forgot it starts at 7am not pm my mistake.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:56 PM on Sat Jul 12 2014
@SteelEthlan "But know this, it would only open at 7pm so keep a sharp eye on that or else you'll never find out who it is."
What? Are you under the impression that anyone who does not see the newcomer video the moment it's released will become unable to ever find out who that character is?
SteelEthlan
said at 7:51 PM on Sat Jul 12 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Oh right i knew that.

I already chose which is the newcomer should be in smash 4 in the video that were not in nintendo direct only on smash website and some other sites like that it should be shulk from xenoblade chronicles.

And what about you do you want to know which characters should be in a newcomer reveal in smash 4?

By the way the video was going to be about in 3 minutes if i'm right.
SteelEthlan
said at 3:34 PM on Sat Sep 27 2014
@SteelEthlan Me and my freaking ego...
SteelEthlan
said at 12:12 AM on Thu Jul 10 2014
Ok this is going as far as i go as i would revamp my personal&non-personal list as it was listed here:

#1) Mario voiced by: Charles Martinet

#2) Luigi voiced by: Charles Martinet

#3) Peach voiced by: Samantha (Sam) Kelly

#4) Bowser voiced by: Kenny James

#5) Donkey Kong voiced by: Takashi Nagasako (Alternatively voiced by in english: Dee Bradley Baker)

#6) Diddy Kong voiced by: Katsumi Suzuki (Alternatively voiced in english: Daran Norris)

#7) Dixie Kong voiced by: Kahoru Sasajima (Alternatively voiced in english: Cherami Leigh)

#8) Yoshi voiced by: Kazumi Totaka

#9) Wario voiced by: Charles Martinet

#10) Link voiced by: Akira Sasanuma (Alternatively voiced by in english: Todd Haberkorn)

#11) Zelda voiced by: Jun Mizusawa (Alternatively voiced by in english: Jamie Marchi

#12) Sheik voiced by: Jun Mizusawa (Alternatively voiced by in english: Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn)

#13) Ganondorf voiced by: Hironori Miyata (Alternatively voiced by in english: Keith Szarabajka)

#14) Toon Link voiced by: Sachi Matsumoto (Alternatively voiced by in english: Erica Schroeder)

#15) Fox voiced by: Jim Walker

#16) Falco voiced by: Mark Lund

#17) Wolf voiced by: Jay Ward

#18) Krystal voiced by: Alesia Glidewell

#19) Samus voiced by: No Voice Actor

#20) Zero Suit Samus voiced by: Alesia Glidewell

#21) Pikachu voiced by Ikue Otani

#22) Charizard voiced by Shinichiro Miki

#23) Greninja voiced by Derek Stephen Prince

#24) Sceptile voiced by: Bill Rogers

#25) Lucario voiced by: Sean Schemmel

#26) Jigglypuff voiced by: Rachael Lillis Or Mewtwo voiced by: Clancy Brown

#27) Kirby voiced by: Makiko Omoto

#28) King Dedede voiced by Shinya Kumazaki (Alternatively and possibly be voiced by: Ted Lewis)

#29) Meta Knight voiced by Eric Newsome

#30) Marth voiced by: Spike Spencer

#31) Ike voiced by: Jason Adkins

#32) Chrom voiced by: Matthew Mercer

#33) Pit voiced by: Antony Del Rio

#34) Palutena voiced by: Brandy Kopp

#35) Ness Voiced by: Makiko Omoto

#36) Captain Falcon voiced by: Ryo Horikawa (Alternatively voiced by in english: Eric Kelso)

#37) Mr. Game & Watch voiced by: No voice actor

#38) Female Wii Fit Trainer voiced by: October Moore

#39) Male Wii Fit Trainer voiced by: Steve Heinke

#40) Mii Fighters (Male) voiced by: Fumihiro Okabayashi

#41) Mii Fighters (Female) voiced by: Ayumi Nagao

#42) Little Mac voiced by: Matt Harty

#43) Megaman voiced by: Cole Howard

#44) Sonic voiced by: Roger Craig Smith

#45) Pac-Man voiced by: Tommy James

#46) Shulk voiced by: Adam Howden

These are my list that had to be done for the 2nd time so that when newcomers and/or veterans are confirmed i really hope so i have to wait and see to find out.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 1:11 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
One other thing, am I the only one who hopes they replace Bowser's voice from "generic monster sounds" with an actual voice in the vein of his BIS voice?
SteelEthlan
said at 6:25 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@HyperVoiceActing No you are not the only one who wants kenny james to voice bowser for real this time.

Like i don't know why they went with the tick-lame animal sound effects which it was ripped and edited straight out of monster and animals voice which doesn't suit the character for me.
SLEDGERAID
said at 12:02 AM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@HyperVoiceActing I also want the same for DK
NAFEDUDE
said at 11:07 AM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@HyperVoiceActing It would sure be more interesting. It would also be neat if Regular Bowser was Kenny James and Giga Bowser was the monster sounds. It would make the "monstrous" feel of GB that much better.
SteelEthlan
said at 12:29 PM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@NAFEDUDE Or how about they edited kenny james bowser voice to deepen like dark bowser with the monstrous touch.
SteelEthlan
said at 12:35 PM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@SLEDGERAID The japanese voice actor of bowser that did the same for ganondorf? Yeah no doubt.

And personally for me i really like to see Brian Drummond to voice donkey kong.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:06 PM on Fri Jul 4 2014
@SteelEthlan Dang it i meant the japanese voice actor of Donkey Kong that did the voice work of ganondorf.
SteelEthlan
said at 8:00 AM on Sun Jul 13 2014
@SteelEthlan Forget what i said in second sentence i changed my choice from brian drummond to dee bradley baker cause he's well talented in animal sounds he makes.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 4:00 PM on Mon Jun 30 2014
Even though their using Generation clips, is it safe to assume that Roger Craig Smith is also gonna record some new stuff to replace the taunts for Sonic?

I'd be interested in hearing his take on "You're too slow!" or whatever line replaces it
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:33 PM on Mon Jun 30 2014
@HyperVoiceActing RCS as Sonic is inevitable.
Mikel
said at 12:28 AM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@HyperVoiceActing Apparently from what I've heard, "You're too slow!" has been replaced with some generic dialogue.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:30 AM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@Mikel That is true, but all of Sonic's dialogue in the demo was recycled from games like Colours and Generations, and the demo is an outdated build of the game, so the clips could easily be placeholders.
NAFEDUDE
said at 11:39 AM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@NCZ I hope so.
HyperVoiceActing
said at 1:07 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@Mikel - Do you know what the line was specifically?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:33 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@HyperVoiceActing I can answer that. He says Sonic Speed now.
NAFEDUDE
said at 11:05 AM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Unless, like NCZ said, they're placeholders, which is very likely since, as he said, they're reused clips from other games. For example, "Super Sonic Style!" is from the cutscene before the final boss of Generations.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:11 PM on Fri Jun 27 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Apparently Palutena was actually voiced by Brandy Kopp.
https://twitter.com/missalihillis/status/482589658623143936

Colour me disappointed that they couldn't get Ali back, but impressed since I didn't even notice the disappointed.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:14 PM on Fri Jun 27 2014
@NCZ I thought there was something slightly off about Palutena in the trailer. Oh well, it's still a remarkable impression.
awesome
said at 2:39 PM on Fri Jun 27 2014
@NCZ Really? It sounded exactly like her nonetheless, so I'm not worried.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:10 PM on Sat Jun 28 2014
@NCZ First, Hate to correct you but i really think you would've said "but impressed since i didn't even notice the disappointment". But that's ok we all make mistakes.

Second, Wait what the heck was that about!? I thought it was the same voice actress from uprising when i heard who this is but i mean wow?

Jeez right in the feels. But oh well i may as well give it a listen she may sound similar to ali's but other than that i won't be very worried about it.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:16 PM on Sat Jun 28 2014
@SteelEthlan Wait a minute scratch the first sentence i said except for the second.

But whatever.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:18 PM on Sat Jun 28 2014
@NCZ Oh, wow! I never knew that! Brandy really did sound just like Ali. I am slightly disappointed they couldn't get Ali back as Palutena cause I LOVED her performance in Uprising but, eh, what can u do? Brandy certainly is a great stand-in! XD
HyperVoiceActing
said at 1:07 PM on Tue Jul 1 2014
@NCZ - Nice job, I couldn't tell.

Off topic, she's also quite hot haha
SteelEthlan
said at 9:10 AM on Sun Jul 20 2014
@SteelEthlan By that i mean to correct you but i was really wrong i'll leave it at that.
TrueMyriad
said at 6:45 AM on Thu Jun 26 2014
I had a little online chat with Jim Walker about whether he's returning as Fox, and here's what he told me:
"I'm told that Nintendo is using my voice for it, but they're using
previously recorded audio of me from our last Fox session.
That's all I know. My agent has had a difficult time getting info on this."
:)
Jessica Marra
said at 6:55 AM on Thu Jun 26 2014
@TrueMyriad So in a way, Jim Walker is still the voice of Fox only they're just using old voice clips? Ok, i'm fine with that. As long as it's still Jim Walker, I'm happy. By the way, you're lucky u got to chat with him online! Must have been awesome! If Falco DOES get confirmed, I wonder if Nintendo will keep Dex Manley to voice him. XD
TrueMyriad
said at 7:37 AM on Thu Jun 26 2014
@Jessica Marra I know right? Jim is a really awesome guy talking with me about this subject and all. I hope Falco does get confirmed too:)
TrueMyriad
said at 7:01 PM on Thu Jun 26 2014
@TrueMyriad Laura Faye Smith is voicing Rosalina in this game as well.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:03 AM on Fri Jun 27 2014
@TrueMyriad YAY! Comparing her to Mercedes Rose (The voice of Rosalina from Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 and Mario Kart Wii), Laura Faye Smith took me by surprise! She's great as Rosalina and I'm more than happy that she'll be Rosalina again in Smash 4! Rosalina was one of my most demanded characters for Smash 4 and seeing her in brought me SO much joy including Palutena, Pac-Man, and Little Mac! XD
TrueMyriad
said at 12:18 PM on Fri Jun 27 2014
@Jessica Marra so far, Jim Walker(recycled voice clips) and Laura Faye Smith have reprised their characters.
CuriousUserX90
said at 5:28 AM on Wed Jun 25 2014
 1 Shout Out!
When will there be Voice Clip's not like from Brawl.
Dogman15
said at 3:06 AM on Mon Jun 30 2014
@CuriousUserX90 You're saying they should use the game's sound test to get clean samples?
SteelEthlan
said at 2:36 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
Hey anybody feel like that sceptile should be in the next smash bros like right here?
SteelEthlan
said at 6:09 PM on Mon Jun 23 2014
Sup guys i am back after getting back in for so freaking long.
CartoonFreak666
said at 7:56 PM on Sun Jun 22 2014
If Gex was very popular, then Gex could deserve to be in any of the SSB games.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:57 PM on Sun Jun 22 2014
@CartoonFreak666 Not a chance.
Metabad
said at 11:10 PM on Sun Jun 22 2014
@CartoonFreak666 Only in my dreams.

But in all seriousness, I've always seen him as more of a Sony character than a Nintendo character, especially since from what I remember, the first game didn't come out on any Nintendo consoles and the sequels were watered down from their Sony/PC versions.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:27 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@CartoonFreak666 Nah it will never happen cause we already have 3 third party characters like sonic,pac-man and mega man these iconic characters from three companies.
TrueMyriad
said at 9:39 PM on Sat Jun 21 2014
Chrom(Fire Emblem:Awakening) Geno(Super Mario RPG) deserve to be in this game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:10 AM on Sun Jun 22 2014
@TrueMyriad I wouldn't count on Geno. He (and probably the other SMRPG characters) is owned by Square Enix, not Nintendo, and he only ever appeared in one game almost 20 years ago.

As for Fire Emblem, it's a toss-up between Chrom and the Avatar as the new representative.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:27 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@TrueMyriad Chrom i can see where anyone is getting at but geno total fat chance cause he's still owned by square enix.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:25 PM on Fri Jun 20 2014
I just heard what Arceus sounds like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hKzfGMdzM&feature=youtu.be&t=2m26s
What in the world is that noise supposed to be?
NAFEDUDE
said at 1:45 PM on Sat Jun 21 2014
@Nightmare Crusher He's sick, obviously.
NAFEDUDE
said at 1:47 PM on Sat Jun 21 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Personally, I'm more concerned about Fox's Constipation.
Toki
said at 1:58 AM on Mon Jun 23 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I think it's Tom Wayland
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:48 AM on Fri Jun 20 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Sakurai just said on Miiverse that every character is going to have twelve special moves. That's going to add a ton of depth for each character. I like it.
NAFEDUDE
said at 1:44 PM on Sat Jun 21 2014
@Nightmare Crusher He's referring to the customization that he talked about months ago, you know.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:29 PM on Sat Jun 21 2014
@NAFEDUDE But he was never that specific.
NAFEDUDE
said at 3:43 PM on Sun Jun 29 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yes he was, around E3.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:48 PM on Sun Jun 29 2014
@NAFEDUDE That was hardly months ago. Even then, I don't recall him saying that EVERY character would have three variations on EVERY special move.
NAFEDUDE
said at 7:26 PM on Mon Jun 30 2014
@Nightmare Crusher He first mentioned Customization several months ago, then elaborated at E3. He made it very clear that all characters would have 3 variations of their moves, mentioning offhandedly with an accompanying picture, and then reiterating it on the site later.

So yeah, he mentioned about 4 times now.
TrueMyriad
said at 3:01 PM on Mon Jun 16 2014
Anybody else want Klonoa to be in this game?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:12 PM on Mon Jun 16 2014
@TrueMyriad I'd be all for it, but there's a 0% chance of that happening due to Pac-Man's presence and the series's obscurity.
TrueMyriad
said at 4:46 AM on Tue Jun 17 2014
@NCZ yeah:-(
Zale
said at 1:48 PM on Wed Jun 18 2014
@NCZ Pacman's presence bothered me mostly because it would stop Lloyd Irving from making it in, and you must admit he IS a popular character. Plus, they need to bring something from the JRPG genre into the game (Fire Emblem is more strategy, and Pokemon isn't what i mean xD)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:28 PM on Wed Jun 18 2014
@Zale As a fan of the Tales series, Lloyd is nowhere near Pac-Man's level as far as iconic status goes. If it's RPG representation you want, I'm holding out for Golden Sun's Isaac and/or Xenoblade's Shulk.
CartoonFreak666
said at 10:30 AM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@TrueMyriad Maybe he could appear as a trophy, sicker, or an assistant trophy. My two sisters hope for characters from the Tales series to be in here.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:29 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@TrueMyriad Well as much he was originally made by namco i would say a very much slim chance cause he's been into playstation consoles for so long but the remake itself it doesn't count here.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:48 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
 6 Shout Outs!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2974350/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

I dunno about everyone else, but I'm maining the hell out of Coach Z, Lightning, Dio Brando, and Dante from the Devil May Cry Series.
madalex1234
said at 7:51 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ Oh my. That is...beautiful.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:01 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ Miyamoto is gonna be voiced by Reggie? SOLD!
.................................................................
Okay, that list is an abomination. I actually would like Hades as a playable character, so I'll give it a point for that.
Metabad
said at 8:07 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ I'm gonna main God.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:15 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher It's actually funny, because even though Dio Brando has no place whatsoever in the Smash Bros. series, he would actually be awesome as a character.

@Metabad The best part is you're not just going to main God. You're going to main God as voiced by famed game director Hideo Kojima.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:20 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ I actually want to see what would happen if this actually ended up as the real roster. The reactions from people would be priceless.
Metabad
said at 8:31 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ Oh also Rosalina is voicing Lightning.

Apparently she's both a video game character and a real person, who knew?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:39 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@Metabad Can't wait to hear how The Doctor does as Piccolo, or how Hatsune Miku does as herself!
Metabad
said at 8:41 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ I'm more excited than ever before! Oh boy!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:45 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ I really want to hear Tomokazu Sugita as Sablé. It must be hard for an actor to bring life and personality to a French cookie.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:17 AM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@NCZ Okay, what is up with the IMBD cast list??? How is Wolf there when he hasn't even been confirmed??? This list is confusing me especially with the unsure casting of Ike, Wii Fit Trainer, Fox, and others. Some are right but someone please tell me that's NOT the official cast yet.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:36 AM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@Jessica Marra IMDB is terrible with voice acting. Don't take it seriously.
NAFEDUDE
said at 6:25 PM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@NCZ Best thing.
Coleiosis123
said at 6:27 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
They're putting in so many other video game characters! If only there was Master Chief from Halo and Wreck-It Ralph.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:10 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@Coleiosis123 You are aware that Master Chief is owned by one of Nintendo's biggest competitors and Ralph is a movie character, right?
Dustinman2012
said at 4:22 AM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Well, actually, Ralph made a guest appearance in Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing: Transformed.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:09 AM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@Dustinman2012 That game also had Danica Patrick (a real person) as a playable character. Their criteria is very different from that used in Smash.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:30 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@Coleiosis123 Master chief is a microsoft exclusive franchise and Wreck-It Ralph is made by disney collaborated with other companies.
Coleiosis123
said at 11:27 AM on Sat Aug 23 2014
@SteelEthlan I know what you mean. Master Chief was originally about to be put into this game. I say Sonic does not deserve to be put into this game because he was already in Brawl, and he is by SEGA. His games are for other platforms other than Nintendo.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:29 AM on Sat Aug 23 2014
@Coleiosis123 "Master Chief was originally about to be put into this game."
Absolute nonsense.
TrueMyriad
said at 5:22 PM on Fri Jun 13 2014
Spike Spencer, not Spender. Typing problem with my phone.
SteelEthlan
said at 2:30 PM on Tue Jun 24 2014
@TrueMyriad That's ok we all have frustrations by not getting the words right.
TrueMyriad
said at 5:20 PM on Fri Jun 13 2014
If Spike Spender was to return as Marth, then it's would probably be best if he used his Guan Suo voice.
Toki
said at 9:09 AM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@TrueMyriad Marth still speaks Japanese in the demo. Of course it could be a place holder.
VctrBnsn
said at 12:01 PM on Thu Jun 12 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Dat banner do!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:06 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
As a heads-up, I think I said this before, but I'm going to say it again to be clear.

If a character's clips in the E3 or Best Buy demos are reused from Brawl, I won't add any voice actors to them. The game is still in development (a very late stage of development, but nonetheless it is still an incomplete build) so there is a very real possibility of those clips being placeholders. If a character is 100% verified to have new clips, then I can add a VA.
Jessica Marra
said at 6:11 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ Thanks for the info, NCZ. :)
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:21 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ Do you still need exact confirmation for the actors? Because I know for a fact that Sonic and Fox have new voices, there just isn't any direct proof on who they are.
NAFEDUDE
said at 10:44 AM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Fox's has a very thick Japanese accent, so it's probably just the Japanese VA. Sonic, however, is obviously Roger Craig Smith.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:50 AM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@NAFEDUDE Fox's battle may, MAY, have been his Japanese actor, but the victory quote I heard was definitely Mike West.
Mikel
said at 5:16 PM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Sonic might have some dialogue recycled from Generations given from his trailer, but I wonder if Roger recorded new dialogue for SSB4 at the same time.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:05 AM on Fri Jun 13 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I'm willing to take your word for it. I dunno if I'll add the info yet, but I believe you.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:38 AM on Fri Jun 13 2014
@NCZ That's fair. There's always a chance that I'm wrong about who the actors are.
NAFEDUDE
said at 10:16 AM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Ah, well I can't speak for the victory quote, then.

@NCZ, Doc Louis is definitely in the game. He's in at least one of Mac's victory screens.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:50 AM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NAFEDUDE Yeah, I saw that.

I kinda hope that Mac has a Smash Taunt on the Boxing Ring stage where Doc Louis gives his commentary on the other fighters. That'd be so cool.
NAFEDUDE
said at 3:08 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ Dude, that would be sweet!

And maybe one for Pit/Palutena on the Palutena's Temple stage.
ConfusedPhantom
said at 8:24 PM on Sun Jun 15 2014
@NCZ From the demo, they used Roger's voice clips from Generations, Free Riders, and Colors. Possibly from the Mario & Sonic games and maybe Lost World.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:06 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Back from Smashfest, got a few bits of info. Bowser and Link both have the same sound clips from Brawl. Roger Craig Smith is Sonic. He also doesn't say you're too slow. He says Sonic Speed. As for Fox, yes his voice is different. It's Mike West, I'm certain of that.
Jessica Marra
said at 5:28 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Really… Jim Walker won't be reprising Fox again??? Oh, man. Maybe his voice changed or maybe Mike West did take his place here… I'm kinda sad about that… but so far I believe this the right cast:

Charles Martinet as Mario/Luigi

Akira Sasanuma as Link

Roger Craig Smith as Sonic

Ikue Otani as Pikachu

Jun Mizusawa as Zelda/Sheik

Samantha Kelly as Peach

Jason Adkins as Ike

Hikaru Midorikawa as Marth

Antony Del Rio as Pit

Ali Hillis as Palutena

Jessica Martin as Zero Suit Samus

Sachi Matsumoto as Toon Link

Makiko Omoto as Kirby

Sean Schemmel as Lucario

October Moore as Wii Fit Trainer (Female)

and Masahiro Sakurai may reprise King Dedede again!

Do u guys agree this what the cast probably will be along with other characters' voice actors returning hopefully??? XD
Jessica Marra
said at 5:29 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Oh, almost forgot about Kazumi Totaka reprising Yoshi again!
Jessica Marra
said at 5:30 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Sorry, almost forgot about Laura Faye Smith probably voicing Rosalina! I don't know how will voice Little Mac though. Any clues???
Dustinman2012
said at 7:29 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Jessica Marra His voice from Punch Out Wii?
Dogman15
said at 3:14 AM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@Dustinman2012 That would be Matt Harty.
Kirbopher
said at 2:23 PM on Fri Jun 13 2014
@Jessica Marra Not sure if it's Matt Harty; the clips Mac has in the game are very "Japanese" so it might be Hisao Egawa.
frostbittenseal
said at 12:01 PM on Mon Jun 23 2014
Are you sure about Sean Schemmel as Lucario? I heard he was voiced by someone else in brawl
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:55 PM on Mon Jun 23 2014
@frostbittenseal Brawl =/= Smash 4. Sean Schemmel confirmed that he's back as Lucario for this game specifically.
AlexPanter15
said at 10:34 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
In Clash Tournaments's video of Smash for Wii u, that is.
AlexPanter15
said at 10:34 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
When i heard the announcer say Kirby's name, Greninja's, Zelda's and Rosalina & Luma's, i thought to myself "Who in Smash Bros is announcing all these names?! :O"
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:04 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
I've been watching some gameplay and Fox seems to have a different voice, but I can't make it out very well.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:26 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Actually, I'm not so sure on this anymore. I'm probably going to Smashfest today. If I hear his voice there I'll let you all know.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:32 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I noticed that too, during the Invitational. I dunno if it's a Japanese voice or an English voice.

Kirby definitely had some new clips (Makiko Ohmoto again, presumably). Pikachu, Marth, and Link were reusing Brawl clips. Pit had Antony Del Rio grunts from Uprising.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:35 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ Fox's KO scream sounded likes Brawl's to me, but his Fire Fox yell sounded different. At least, that's what I could make out. Again, maybe I'll get a better idea at Smashfest.
Toki
said at 12:29 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ DK, and Mario also have reused Brawl clips. Zero suit Samus has new voice clips. (Possibly a new actress.) Mega Man and villager don't have voices. Laura Faye Smith seems to be back as Rosalina, I have no idea if Mat Harty is doing Mac's grunts, and I have no idea who voices Greninja.
DravenRoth994
said at 6:58 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
 1 Shout Out!
I'm actually not that surprised to see Pac-Man and Palutena confirmed, but its AWESOME regardless!!! What I was not expecting were the FREAKING MIIS!!! Is it a bad thing? NOT. AT. ALL!!!
Dustinman2012
said at 3:33 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
Mr.Game and Watch was put in the trailer as a joke, he isn't officially confirmed yet. Check the official site if you don't believe me. http://www.smashbros.com/us
madalex1234
said at 5:24 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Dustinman2012 Well...except for this https://twitter.com/SmashMiiverse/status/476550266112589824

More likely is that they don't have anything to show for him at the moment, and thus he hasn't been put up on the site yet.
madalex1234
said at 5:41 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
Though, since they may have watched the same trailer, take it with a grain of salt.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:46 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Dustinman2012 It's a blatant tease at his presence. Lots of fighting games do this. I highly doubt they would prominently show Game&Watch in a major trailer and not have him in the game.

They didn't explicitly spell it outright, but even without the tease there's no doubt that G&W will be in the game.
Dustinman2012
said at 9:47 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ That makes sense. Thanks a lot.
Dogman15
said at 11:02 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ For that matter, doesn't that mean Doc Louis is in the game, too? Not as a fighter, but as a voice, or in cutscenes you can watch in-game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:12 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Dogman15 I don't see why that should be in doubt.
Toki
said at 12:35 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Dogman15 doc Luis is in little Mac's victory screens.
Dogman15
said at 3:16 AM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@NCZ I was only wondering because he isn't on this page yet.
@Toki That's good to know, thanks. So he is indeed in the game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:07 AM on Thu Jun 12 2014
@Dogman15 Many of your comments read as backhanded requests just as an FYI.
Dogman15
said at 3:34 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@NCZ
>just as an FYI
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:49 PM on Sat Jun 14 2014
@Dogman15 Eh?
Bombermanp
said at 1:14 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
((rhetorical question.. i know the answer)) honestly do we really need confirmation on Sonic, Mario, and Luigi?? i think its kinda self explanatory..
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:46 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Bombermanp What?
SpongeBat1
said at 5:42 PM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@NCZ He means we know Charles Martinet will be Mario and Luigi and we know Roger Craig Smith will be Sonic.
SpongeBat1
said at 10:40 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Pac-Man?
Nintendo, you have the right to shut up and take my money.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:57 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
 6 Shout Outs!
Mario, Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man. THE CIRCLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED!
Bombermanp
said at 1:07 AM on Wed Jun 11 2014
@Nightmare Crusher the for kings of gaming have finally joined together to resurrect the the virtual Phoenix known as nintendo. THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FORFILLED! A NEW AGE HAS BEGAN
SteelEthlan
said at 9:06 AM on Sun Jul 20 2014
@Nightmare Crusher All 4 mascots from their own legendary franchises have been joined together on one game alone this is what i've been looking forward to play as.
NAFEDUDE
said at 8:43 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
Oh hey guys what'd I mi-

OH MY GOD!
Mikel
said at 8:42 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
Pac-Man's confirmed!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:24 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
Two fairly high-profile characters have just been revealed in a Q&A with Sakurai that is being liveblogged by several news sites. Will add once I have images of them.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:07 PM on Tue Jun 10 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
You have no idea how stoked I am that Palutena is playable.

And we technically got Reggie, too!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:51 PM on Mon Jun 9 2014
HEADS UP: I won't be able to watch the Nintendo Direct live, so I will be late in updating the page with whatever newcomers are announced. I am making a point to watch the Direct as soon as possible so I can get it updated.

Please understand.
TrueMyriad
said at 11:00 AM on Tue Jun 10 2014
@NCZ no problem. If your busy and can't do any updating, then we should give you as much time and space as you want until then.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:48 PM on Mon Jun 9 2014
E3 is so close, I can almost taste it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:49 PM on Mon Jun 9 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Dawn of the Final Day: 12 Hours Remain.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:38 AM on Fri Jun 6 2014
WOW! The first VA confirmation we get is Sean Schemmel returns to voice Lucario since the movie Lucario and the Mystery of Mew! This is wonderful! Hopefully, more voice actors will be confirmed soon! XD
Toki
said at 12:08 AM on Sat May 31 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
https://twitter.com/SeanSchemmel/status/47243422999787929

Sean Schemmel just confirmed he's voicing Lucario.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:30 AM on Sat May 31 2014
@Toki What? That link is broken for me and I can't find anything on Sean's Twitter.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:31 AM on Sat May 31 2014
@Toki No, wait, never mind. I found it. This is great news.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:38 AM on Sat May 31 2014
@Toki Whoa, what's this? The first actual confirmation (apart from Antony hinting he might be Pit again)? Excellent! Sean was great as Lucario in the movie; I'm really happy he's getting a second shot! I'm guessing Daisuke Namikawa will be back as his Japanese voice.
GothamRed
said at 9:24 AM on Sat May 31 2014
@Toki Sweet, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew was the last pokemon movie I liked, and the only one I've liked on the non theatrical releases, so it's nice that we're getting Lucario's voice from there
Dogman15
said at 4:12 PM on Sat May 31 2014
@Toki Looks like that tweet was deleted. Got a screenshot?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:50 PM on Sat May 31 2014
@Dogman15 The link was broken to begin with, as you can tell by Nightmare Crusher's comment. You can find it if you check through his twitter.
Toki
said at 4:53 PM on Sat May 31 2014
@Dogman15 https://31.media.tumblr.com/f4469b5b03d39647b7c81d4350558dfa/tumblr_n6efbkhPkY1r73s0go1_400.png
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:45 PM on Fri May 30 2014
With the introduction of a few alternate costumes I'm wondering if a certain doctor will return.
SteelEthlan
said at 4:57 AM on Mon Jun 2 2014
@Nightmare Crusher I would guess that Dr. Mario Would be more of a alt. costume than a character cause they are the same character with different attire and moveset.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:26 AM on Mon Jun 2 2014
@SteelEthlan I believe that's what he was implying, that Doc should return as an alt rather than his own character.
SteelEthlan
said at 6:10 PM on Mon Jun 23 2014
@NCZ Oh right i get ya.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:49 AM on Fri May 30 2014
Background Character #1 Slippy's Voice Actor: Mike Mcauliffe

Background Character #2 Peppy's Voice Actor: Henry Dardenne

Background Character #3 Leon's Voice Actor: Jim Walker

Background Character #4 Panther's Voice Actor: David Scally

That i too personally speculate the background characters in the next smash bros in one of star fox stage(s).
SteelEthlan
said at 9:02 AM on Fri May 30 2014
Oh by the way I am new here I am SteelEthlan.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:00 AM on Fri May 30 2014
Super Smash Bros For Wii U/3DS (Aka 4 or As I would personally call my own new title: Upclash and 3DSkirmish) Voice Acting that should be voice Nintendo and non-Nintendo characters ranging from male to female playable characters (In order but nearly):

1. English Voice Actor of Mario: Charles Martinet

2. English Voice Actor of Luigi: Charles Martinet

3. Japanese Voice Actor of Yoshi: Kazumi Totaka

4. English Voice Actress of Peach: Samantha Kelly (Sam Kelly)

5. English Voice Actor of Bowser: Kenny James

6. Japanese Voice Actor of Donkey Kong: Takashi Nagasako

6.5. English Voice Actor of Donkey Kong: Brian Drummond

7. Japanese Voice Actor of Diddy Kong: Katsumi Suzuki

7.5. English Voice Actor of Diddy Kong: Daran Norris

8. Japanese Voice Actress of Dixie Kong: Kahoru Sasajima

8.5. English Voice Actress of Dixie Kong: Cherami Leigh

9. English Voice Actor of Wario: Charles Martinet

10. Japanese Voice Actor of Link: Akira Sasanuma

10.5. English Voice Actor of Link: Todd Haberkorn

11. Japanese Voice Actress of Zelda: Jun Mizusawa

11.5. English Voice Actress of Zelda: Jamie Marchi

12. Japanese Voice Actress of Sheik: Jun Mizusawa

12.5. English Voice Actress of Sheik: Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn

12. Japanese Voice Actor of Ganondorf: Hironori Miyata

12.5. English Voice Actor of Ganondorf: Tom Wyner

13. Japanese Voice Actor of Toon Link: Sachi Matsumoto

13.5. English Voice Actor of Toon Link: Barbara Goodson

14. Japanese Voice Actor of Fox: Kenji Nojima

14.5. English Voice Actor of Fox: Jim Walker

15. Japanese Voice Actor of Falco: Hisao Egawa

15.5. English Voice Actor of Falco: Mark Lund

16. Japanese Voice Actor of Wolf: Mahito Oba

16.5. English Voice Actor of Wolf: Dan Green (If chosen)

17. Japanese Voice Actress of Krystal: Aya Hara

17.5. English Voice Actress of Krystal: Alesia Guidewell

18. Japanese Voice Actress of Pikachu: Ikue Otani

19. Japanese Voice Actress of Jigglypuff: Mika Kanai

19.5. English Voice Actress of Jigglypuff: Rachael Lillis

20. Japanese Voice Actress of Mewtwo: Reiko Takashima

20.5. English Voice Actress of Mewtwo: Miriam Pultro

21. Japanese Voice Actor of Lucario: Daisuke Namikawa

21.5. English Voice Actor of Lucario: Sean Schemmel

22. Japanese Voice Actor of Charizard: Shinichiro Miki

23. Japanese Voice Actor of Sceptile: Yuji Ueda

23.5 English Voice Actor of Sceptile: Bill Rogers

24. Japanese Voice Actor/Actress of Greninja: ???

24.5 English Voice Actor/Actress of Greninja: Derek Stephen Prince

25. Japanese Voice Actress of Kirby: Makiko Omoto

26. Japanese Voice Actor of King Dedede: Shinya Kumazaki

26.5 English Voice Actor of Dedede: Dan Green

27. Japanese Voice Actress of Samus: Ai Kobayashi

27.5. English Voice Actress of Samus: Alesia Glidewell

28. Japanese Voice Actor of Pit: Minami Takayama

28.5. English Voice Actor of Pit: Antony Del Rio

29. Japanese Voice Actor of Sonic: Junichi Kanemaru

29.5. English Voice Actor of Sonic: Roger Craig Smith

30. Japanese Voice Actor of Megaman: Hekiru Shiina

30.5. English Voice Actress of Megaman: Kate Higgins

31. Japanese Voice Actor of Pac-Man: ???

31.5. English Voice Actor of Pac-Man: J Michael Tatum

That's what I personally listed of Characters' Voice Actors/Actresses for the new upcoming super smash bros for wii u and 3ds (Which I think the title should be changed when the 3ds version is done first and then the wii u version).

And when the voice cast is revealed (In both English and Japanese) I'll just have to leave it where it was and let the credit cast speak for itself.
Jessica Marra
said at 4:15 AM on Fri May 30 2014
Darn, I also forgot that Antony Del Rio will voice Pit! YAY! XD
Jessica Marra
said at 4:10 AM on Fri May 30 2014
Oh, and I almost forgot, I DO hope Jim Walker will reprise Fox here!
Jessica Marra
said at 4:09 AM on Fri May 30 2014
I wonder if Jason Adkins would come back to voice Ike again. After all, he did reprise Ike in Radiant Dawn after Path of Radiance. I hope he does. It's not confirmed, but it is rumored that Jessica Martin will reprise Samus (Zero Suit) for this game. Laura Faye Smith will be Rosalina, no word about Little Mac yet, maybe Bill Rogers will reprise Lucario here, October Moore may come back to do the Wii Fit Trainer and Roger Craig Smith will definitely do Sonic. This is the best info I could find on the voice actors by far.
SteelEthlan
said at 9:46 AM on Fri May 30 2014
@Jessica Marra Jason Adkins will be back to voice Ike again,Alesia Guidewell as Samus (In my opinion is the better voice actor than Jessica martin), Laura Faye Smith as Rosalina,Matt Harty as Little Mac and Sean Schemmel honestly would be as Lucario again cause bill's take is rather too deep for Lucario I ever heard in my opinion.

Others I can clearly see.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:04 PM on Fri May 23 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
I always liked Ike's Radiant Dawn design. It's cool to see it in Smash Bros.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:43 AM on Fri May 23 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Lucario, Sonic, Toon Link, and Ike are the four characters I was most worried about getting cut. I'm incredibly relieved that they're all back, since they were some of my favourites in Brawl. Loving the Radiant Dawn look for Ike, too.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:03 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@NCZ I never thought that Sonic would get cut since Nintendo and Sega had announced that exclusives deal with Sonic. I do agree that the rest of them were in danger of being cut, especially Ike. Still, I'm glad to see him back.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:15 PM on Sun May 25 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah, of those four, I thought for sure that Sonic was the most likely. As you said there's the three-game deal, plus there's the Mario and Sonic Olympics series, Colours, and how well-received his inclusion in Brawl was. I was only ever worried due to his third-party status which left the possibility that his inclusion was a one-shot, but I'm really glad that it looks like he's here to stay.

Sonic is almost like an honourary Nintendo character at this point, and from a meta point of view he and Sega are just as important to Nintendo's history as many of the other characters in the series.
DravenRoth994
said at 8:50 AM on Fri May 23 2014
While its nice Ike is back, I REALLY hoped it was Chrom. His chances don't seem very likely now.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:29 AM on Fri May 23 2014
@DravenRoth994 I'm guessing that if not Chrom, Avatar (Robin) will be playable. It'd be pretty cool and unique to have a magic-using Fire Emblem character rather than another swordsman.
DravenRoth994
said at 12:25 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@NCZ Yeah, that's a good idea. I just ruled out the Avatar since he/she was a customized character. Then again, they would most likely have their hood over their heads like in the main cutscenes.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:14 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@DravenRoth994 I don't know if you know this, but alternate skins have been confirmed. The Villager is available in several different male and female variations, for example. They could easily do the same for Robin.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:59 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@DravenRoth994 Chrom still has a pretty good shot. Brawl was probably going to have three Fire Emblem reps at some point since junk data for Roy was found in the game.
DravenRoth994
said at 3:16 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@NCZ Seriously??!! I knew the Wii Fit Trainer had an alternate skin at least, but that is AWESOME!!! Yeah if they did add Robin, they could do the different body types, hair styles, weapons, and even their voice actors (okay not that one) for each skin.
DravenRoth994
said at 3:32 PM on Fri May 23 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah I knew about that. I hope they do add new representatives. Granted they certaintly are, but there still has yet to be any one new from the likes of F-Zero and Metroid (besides assist trophies). Captain Falcon and Samus are still the sole representatives of their franchises. Then again, who else can they get from Metroid? Adam "I now authorize the Varia Suit" Malkovich? Okay sorry, that's just a minor nitpick of mine. If that was also off topic, then whoops.
CuriousUserX90
said at 3:56 AM on Tue May 6 2014
I sure hope most characters won't use the same Voice Clip's from Brawl.
NAFEDUDE
said at 12:07 PM on Sat Apr 26 2014
While the game isn't out, We all know Mario And Luigi will be Martinet, Sonic Will be Smith, and Kirby and Pikachu will have the same actresses as well.

Not that we need to add them yet, since the game isn't out.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:41 PM on Sat Apr 26 2014
@NAFEDUDE Yeah, it's inevitable, but there's nothing official, so I haven't added them.

Which reminds me, might as well use this as a chance to say that I'm not adding any voice actors until an official cast list or individual confirmations are available. Gameplay videos alone aren't enough since anything in them is subject to change. In the first E3 trailer, Mario and Link were using Brawl clips, for example.
NAFEDUDE
said at 12:58 PM on Sat Apr 26 2014
@NCZ Of course. Since we all know it anyway, it's not that big of a deal their not listed, as well.

On that note, Antony Del Rio will probably reprise Pit, and October Moore probably will reprise WF for Yoshi.T, as well as Kasumi Totaka. Mega Man and Villager will be silent, unless they get Mega Man 8's VA for the lulz. The big question is: Who will voice Samus? Will it be Jessica Martin, due to the Other M design (please god no), or will it be Alisa Glidewell? Jennifer Hale? Or someone completely different?
NAFEDUDE
said at 1:00 PM on Sat Apr 26 2014
@NCZ That last post got screwed up: It's supposed to say October Moore as WFT, Kasumi Totaka as Yoshi.

Of course, you do not need to add these, nor am I requesting the add.
TrueMyriad
said at 5:22 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
Now for the new dream voice cast of mine:
Mario(Charles Martinet)
Luigi(Charles Martinet)
Bowser(Kenny James)
Donkey Kong(Fred Tatasciore)
Link(Johnny Yong Bosch
Pikachu(Ikue Ohtani)
Kirby(Makiko Ohtami)
Samus(Jennifer Hale)
Fox(Jim Walker)
Pit(Antony Del Rio)
Animal Cross Villager(Mona Marshall)
Olimar(Spioke Spencer)
Wii Fit Trainer(October Moore)
Megaman(Kate Higgins)
Toon Link(Casey Mongillo)
Princess Peach(Samantha Kelly)
Sonic(Roger Craig Smith)
Marth(David Vincent)
Rosalina(Cristina Valenzuela)
Princess Zelda/Sheik(Kira Buckland)
King Dedede(JB Blanc)
Lucario(Sean Schemmel/Bill Rogers)
Little Mac(Matt Harty)
Diddy Kong(Bryce Papenbrook)
Mikel
said at 3:24 PM on Mon Apr 14 2014
I hope we can know the full voice cast once the 3DS version is out, honestly.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:06 PM on Mon Apr 14 2014
@Mikel That's pretty much a given.
GothamRed
said at 8:18 AM on Wed Apr 9 2014
Pong made it into the game!
Ultimate Fox
said at 5:25 AM on Wed Apr 9 2014
0-0 OMG! This is about to be epic!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:43 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
I have to wonder about that Ridley shadow in the Direct. The obvious implication is that he's a stage boss like the Yellow Devil and that does seem pretty likely. Although there's always room for deception.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:08 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Knowing Sakurai, anything is possible.

I mean, in that Direct alone, he outright said that Zero Suit Samus was being cut, and immediately after went "lol jk she's still in the game."
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:10 AM on Thu Apr 17 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Adding onto Ridley. Some people tried analyzing the size of his shadow and found that Ridley seems to have a much smaller body, but large limbs and wings. Now I want to see the model even more.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:14 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
Other things we can extrapolate from the Direct:

- Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are cut (Charizard is solo, Sakurai said that there are no more character transformations)
- Captain Falcon is back (Samurai Goroh is an assist trophy again)
- Meta Knight may be back (Halberd is a returning stage)
- Palutena has a chance (Pit has a new Final Smash, the "Pseudo-Palutena" trophy seemed to be one of Sakurai's teases)
- Snake's chances are looking grimmer and grimmer by the minute (Steel Diver item seems to function the same as his missile)
- We now have 4 Pokemon; I doubt that Mewtwo is returning from Melee, so Jigglypuff is likely the fifth
Mikel
said at 3:24 PM on Mon Apr 14 2014
@NCZ Also, Chrom is hinted thanks to Arena Ferox as a stage and maybe Tiki as a trophy in the 3DS version.
VGAfanatic
said at 8:29 PM on Tue Apr 15 2014
@NCZ If Jigglypuff returns, they REALLY need to fix its moveset, and give it new Special Moves to reflect the fact that it's part Fairy.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:34 PM on Tue Apr 15 2014
@VGAfanatic Lucario and Charizard have been updated to accomodate their Mega Evolutions, so I'm pretty sure Jigglypuff will get a moveset shakeup too.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:13 AM on Wed Apr 16 2014
@Mikel At this point, Chrom and Palutena are the two newcomers I'd say are more or less guaranteed.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:39 AM on Wed Apr 30 2014
@NCZ Not saying Mewtwo is super likely to return, but Brawl technically had six Pokemon.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:16 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
GRENINJA CONFIRMED

http://i.imgur.com/cTRlMR5.jpg
Dogman15
said at 4:33 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
@NCZ And, perhaps unsurprisingly, the Male Wii Fit Trainer!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:38 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
@Dogman15 Yes but he's just an alternate costume and not his own character.
Dogman15
said at 7:04 PM on Tue Apr 8 2014
@NCZ I figured as much, but they'll have to get Steve Heinke or someone to do the male's voice.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:02 PM on Mon Apr 7 2014
 6 Shout Outs!
Who's excited for the Nintendo Direct tomorrow!?
Ultimate Fox
said at 7:21 AM on Tue Apr 8 2014
@NCZ I am.
Ultimate Fox
said at 11:18 AM on Wed Apr 2 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
Now only if they made a NEW STAR FOX GAME!
ShadowLightHeart
said at 6:41 AM on Wed Mar 26 2014
 6 Shout Outs!
I really hope Bowser is voiced by Kenny James in this Smash instead of giving Bowser some weird animal sounds. Kenny James IS Bowser. The same can be said about Donkey Kong. Why Sakurai, why the hell don't you have them be voiced by their respective voice actors? It is one of the reason I can't play with Bowser, with those awful animal sounds he doesn't sound as powerful as he is, thus making him boring.
LOL_DUDE
said at 4:51 PM on Wed Mar 26 2014
@ShadowLightHeart INFINITE AGREEMENT
HienFan
said at 5:27 AM on Mon Mar 24 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
I am so happy to see Rosalina appear.
Ultimate Fox
said at 5:55 AM on Thu Mar 20 2014
 1 Shout Out!
I just my Star Fox dream team come back. Hopefully out of all, Falco joins back the fray. I ultimately happy that Fox will be in smash peroid. But it will be nice if Falco, Wolf, and Krystal join in. Now that a Mission Completion!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:57 PM on Thu Mar 13 2014
Snake's chances aren't looking too good.

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=224134
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:08 PM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@NCZ Kojima's words can't always be taken at face value. Although I do think Snake is likely to be cut.
Fortenium
said at 10:59 PM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@NCZ As much as I enjoyed seeing a strange character addition, it's cool if he just appears in Brawl. I'm content with that because we have Mega Man in the fray, someone who relies on the similar concept of a LOT of projectiles. I'm not saying they will play similarly in tournaments, it's just both use that same general idea, not even taking into regard both are third-party. If Snake DOES reappear, awesome, more power to what a good cast SSB4 utilizes.
Ultimate Fox
said at 5:02 AM on Fri Feb 21 2014
I knew it. Diddy Kong.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:53 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
 1 Shout Out!
Time for an interesting bit of speculation regarding Japanese voices.

Takashi Ohara voices Link in Skyward Sword and Fox in Starfox 64 3D.

If they get him back for both characters (rather than going with Akira Sasanuma and Kenji Nojima), then it's possible they may want to be consistent and get Mike West for Fox?

And if they get him for Link, that'd set an interesting precedent. Link seems to be a blend of his SS and TP designs, and would have his SS voice. Zelda is her TP design, so would she have her TP voice? And what would that mean for Ganondorf?
Mikel
said at 3:36 PM on Sun Feb 16 2014
@NCZ Having Mike West back for Fox in SSB4 would give in some more interesting connections to Starfox 64 3D.

As far as Zelda goes, I have a good feeling that they're going to use her SS voice.
TrueMyriad
said at 9:19 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
Mario(Charles Martinet)
Luigi(Charles Martinet)
Bowser(Kenny James)
Donkey Kong(Travis Willingham)
Link(Johnny Yong Bosch)
Pikachu(Ikue Ohtani)
Kirby(Makiko Ohtami)
Samus(Jennifer Hale)
Fox(Jim Walker)
Pit(Antony Del Rio)
Animal Cross Villager(Laura Bailey)
Wii Fit Trainer
Megaman(Kate Higgins)
Toon Link(Casey Mongillo)
Princess Peach(Samantha Kelly)
Sonic(Roger Craig Smith)
Marth(David Vincent)
Rosalina(Michelle Ruff)
Princess Zelda(Karen Strassman)
King Dedede(JB Blanc)
Lucario(Sean Schemmel/Bill Rogers)
Little Mac(Michael Sinterniklaas)
Dogman15
said at 12:13 AM on Fri Feb 21 2014
@TrueMyriad The Wii Fit Trainer was voiced by October Moore in her original game.
Dustinman2012
said at 5:02 PM on Fri Feb 21 2014
@TrueMyriad Matt Harty should play Little Mac. He voiced him in Punch Out Wii.
TrueMyriad
said at 1:21 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@Dustinman2012 and @Dogman15 Okay, October Moore and Matt Harty for Wii Fit Trainer and Little Mac respectively, but the rest stick, and I say Bryce Papenbrook should voice Diddy Kong.
VGAfanatic
said at 6:34 AM on Sun Mar 16 2014
@TrueMyriad I think most of your selections are highly unlikely since many of the characters have either already established voices for their franchises, or will either have synthesized animal voices or will be completely silent. Besides, Marth should be voiced by Spike Spencer.
TrueMyriad
said at 1:05 PM on Fri Mar 28 2014
@VGAfanatic how do you suppose that Spike Spencer's voice would work out in this game. Knowing how voice acting back then was very lack luster, even with actors that are currently popular, maybe he will sound like Ringabel from Bravely Default.
TrueMyriad
said at 9:01 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
Who else wants to see Ness. Captain Falcon,Ike, Chrom, Lucas, Yoshi, Diddy Kong, and Metaknight?
Here's the wishlist for their voices:
Ness(Wendee Lee)
Ike(Jason Adkins)
Chrom(Matthew Mercer)
Captain Falcon(Robin Atkin Downes)
Lucas(Lani Minella)
Metaknight(Crispin Freeman)
Diddy Kong(Lucien Dodge)
Yoshi(Japanese Actor)
DravenRoth994
said at 9:10 AM on Fri Feb 14 2014
So Little Mac got promoted from Assist Trophy to PLAYABLE FIGHTER??!! Nice. He looks awesome from the trailer. He shall be one of my mains once I get the game(along with Luigi, Rosalina, Link, Marth, and Zelda so far). Unlikely as it is, imagine how awesome it would be if Jin or Hwoarang were in this(or any other Tekken character).
DravenRoth994
said at 11:44 AM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@DravenRoth994 Ah yes, and The Villager.
Nick000
said at 7:55 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
I wanna hope Captain Falcon, Ness, and Mr. Game and Watch return for this game.
Ultimate Fox
said at 5:39 AM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@Nick000 They will most likely will. Most likely the fighters ight have some huge devlopment on the or something important! But they will return. They are part of the (Original 12)! Just as well as Fox,Mario,Kirby,Pikachu and others.
Dogman15
said at 6:49 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@Nick000 I doubt they'd get rid of the original 12.
DreamMaster08X
said at 6:54 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
So far, my main ones (Lucario, Kirby, Samus, Bowser) have made it back to the cut... all except Meta Knight. I hope Meta Knight returns. I've been playing SSBB the past few days, and remembered just how much fun I had playing as him.

Also Captain Falcon, too. Or perhaps a newcomer from F-Zero?
Dustinman2012
said at 6:48 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
 2 Shout Outs!
If Captain Falcon doesn't come back, Little Mac will be his replacement for my main fighter.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:51 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
It's about time! Little Mac was pretty much the only newcomer that had to be in the game, IMO.
Dogman15
said at 3:35 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
It sounds like they've got Riley Inge back for the voice of Doc Louis, too.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:49 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@Dogman15 Didn't sound like him to me, but it's been a while since I've played Punch-Out Wii.
Mikel
said at 4:27 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@NCZ It makes me think that Doc Louis will be Little Mac's mouthpiece after watching the trailer.
Dogman15
said at 6:48 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@NCZ I was comparing to the Riley Inge/Doc Louis clip that's on this site.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:03 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
 5 Shout Outs!
LITTLE MAC CONFIRMED

I'VE FOUND MY MAIN
GothamRed
said at 4:37 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@NCZ I'm glad he's in, but he won't be my main based on the trailer. It flat out says he's not good in the air and I'm a very vertical player.
areince
said at 6:17 PM on Wed Feb 12 2014
I'm so glad they added Rosalina ^-^ It better come soon... I NEED THIS GAME
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:33 PM on Wed Feb 12 2014
@areince I'm thinking this game will have a summer release date this year. That way there's a good amount of space between it and Mario Kart 8 in May. There's a Nintendo Direct tomorrow so maybe we'll get more info there.
areince
said at 7:02 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@NCZ Yeah I watched the Nintendo Direct.... NOT HELPFUL AT ALL ugh. :( Just another character announcement lol.
Ross123
said at 11:04 AM on Sat Feb 8 2014
Just like all the other Nintendo games that come out nowadays, I'll be getting this on the 3DS. Don't own a Wii U nor do I want one even if Mario & Sonic Winter Olympics 2014 is on it, same goes for Sony's PS Vita.

Another thing, I never thought I'd be buying a lot of 3DS games. I never planned to even get a 3DS (that was 2011). I'm surprised there's a lot of games that interest me since I only ever got it for KH Dream Drop Distance.
BuddyBoy600alt
said at 12:32 PM on Fri Feb 7 2014
I would like to see Ian James Corlett as Mega Man, Jonathan Potts as Link, Jaleel White as Sonic, BTW, Should Rayman, Lac-Mac, and other Rayman characters join in?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:25 AM on Fri Jan 31 2014
RIP Mewtwo
Fulgore2005
said at 5:28 AM on Fri Jan 31 2014
@NCZ What happened?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:33 AM on Fri Jan 31 2014
@Fulgore2005

* Lucario is in the game
* Lucario has a similar moveset to Mewtwo
* There will inevitably be new Pokemon characters to acknowledge Black and White and/or X and Y
* There are only so many slots

While not explicitly confirmed, Mewtwo is looking more and more unlikely.
GothamRed
said at 7:19 AM on Fri Jan 31 2014
@NCZ They really only had 1 similar move
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:22 AM on Fri Jan 31 2014
@GothamRed Their A moves were fairly similar too, although yes, they did have different B moves for the most part. To me I think the similarities are just enough to be noticeable, but definitely not enough to make Lucario feel like a clone rather than its own character. I don't really mind if Mewtwo doesn't come back; I wasn't expecting it to anyway.
gtnish>7
said at 11:30 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
I see Mega Man was successful this time and I see they are trying to squeeze everyone in...for crying out loud the "Wii Fit Trainer"??? (:
scottdevine48
said at 2:40 PM on Fri Feb 7 2014
@gtnish>7 I hope Charizard's son, Charet/ThunderDragon will appear in the game with Johnny Yong Bosch voicing him.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:29 PM on Fri Feb 7 2014
@scottdevine48 Your hope is greatly misplaced, possibly in an alternate dimension.
scottdevine48
said at 3:20 AM on Sat Feb 8 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Not alternative and misplaced, Charet/Thunderdragon's assist trophy will be Charisse/HeartDragon, his sister.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:06 AM on Sat Feb 8 2014
@scottdevine48 I'm just going to dispense with any subtlety. Your strange fan characters will NEVER be in this game or any other.
scottdevine48
said at 8:17 AM on Sat Feb 8 2014
@Nightmare Crusher ok, but shadow.
SmartyBoyboy
said at 6:41 AM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@scottdevine48 I won't let any psycho fan ambitions ruin my hopes for this game!
MilanTheVillain01
said at 10:53 PM on Wed Dec 25 2013
 1 Shout Out!
Guess what, people? Zelda's been confirmed to return!
http://www.smashbros.com/en-au/characters/zelda.html
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:03 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@MilanTheVillain01 There's something about her face that just doesn't look right to me. I can't put my finger on what it is.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:28 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@MilanTheVillain01 You don't need to post stuff like this or try and "beat us to the punch" because I'm staying on top of this game and will add information as soon as I possibly can. I haven't been able to add her to the page until now.
GothamRed
said at 8:33 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@MilanTheVillain01 So why TP Zelda when Link is using his SS design?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:03 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@GothamRed If anything, I'd say Link's design is the TP look with the Skyward Sword aesthetic. I can understand why they wouldn't use SS Zelda, since she's designed to be more cute and "pure", so she's not as believable as a badass fighter as the more mature, serious-looking TP Zelda. Not to mention that she's seemingly fighting using a Phantom from Spirit Tracks; if she keeps the Sheik transformation, she'd be a hybrid of multiple Zelda incarnations.
GothamRed
said at 10:33 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@NCZ I get the hybrid thing, but the cute thing doesn't really work in the context of Smash. I mean Peach, Kirby, and so on are in the game. But the hybrid thing makes sense, I'm just not a fan of Brunette zelda.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:49 AM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@GothamRed To me, the difference there is that those characters were cute from the beginning, and their movesets were designed around that aesthetic, so it doesn't seem out of place. Whereas with Zelda, it's a cute redesign for a previously mature-looking character. It'd be a little jarring seeing SS Zelda with the same moveset as Brawl and Melee.

Fair enough on Brunette Zelda. I can definitely see them giving her an Ocarina-esque colour scheme as a palette swap.
MilanTheVillain01
said at 5:00 PM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@NCZ & I mean hell, they already did an OoT palette swap in Brawl, so at this point, it's pretty much expected.
VGAfanatic
said at 7:28 PM on Thu Dec 26 2013
@GothamRed I'd say Zelda's more "dirty blonde" than brunette, so as to fit Twilight Princess' dark atmosphere. I kinda like this design best, but that's just my opinion with no intent on trying to fight against yours.
Ultimate Fox
said at 5:06 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
0-0 No WAY! Rosalina?! Nintendo gave us the BIGGEST SURPRISE EVER!
Dogman15
said at 12:27 PM on Mon Dec 23 2013
@Ultimate Fox I suppose you thought the same when they revealed characters for Brawl in 2007 and 2008?
Dogman15
said at 1:11 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
 2 Shout Outs!
So who do you guys hope voices Rosalina? Mercedes Rose, Kerri Kane, or Laura Faye Smith?
NASCARFAN160
said at 6:50 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
@Dogman15 Hmm...I've not listened to the three voices enough to see a difference. I'd say Mercedes Rose, as she voice Rosalina in her most often and most important appearances.

I'm surprised to see there's a different actress for MK7, I thought all her MKWii voice clips would've been reused.
DravenRoth994
said at 1:54 PM on Wed Dec 18 2013
Rosalina??!! I wasn't expecting her but cool.
DravenRoth994
said at 4:07 PM on Wed Dec 18 2013
@DravenRoth994 Although it seems a bit unfair that she was added and Daisy, who's been in the series since 1989, has been left biting the dust.
Dogman15
said at 1:10 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
@DravenRoth994 Incoming alt costume for Peach...
NASCARFAN160
said at 6:14 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
@DravenRoth994 Yeah, that's true. And I think Nintendo's been slightly overdoing it with the Galaxy references lately.

Games she's been in outside of the series include Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7 (and they even had Queen Bee for goodness sake...one of those two should have been replaced with Waluigi, at least), Super Mario 3D World and Mario Kart Arcade GP DX...

Oh well, I don't mind her as a recurring character now, but for Heaven's sake Ninty, give Daisy some love in the Smash Bros. series. Or heck, she could have even been in Mario 3D World.

This overshadowing is starting to make Rosalina and Daisy look like Luigi an Mario.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:16 AM on Thu Dec 19 2013
@DravenRoth994 Well, it probably helps that Daisy hasn't been in the main series since 1989. Just like Waluigi, her appearances have been in spin-offs. Not to mention that from a moveset point of view, Rosalina probably had more to offer to the developers.
DravenRoth994
said at 2:38 PM on Fri Dec 20 2013
@NCZ Yeah you have a point there. Daisy's biggest role so far was Super Mario Land(her first appearance), after that, she hasn't done much. Rosalina does provide some interesting concepts for SSB so it cool that shes in it.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 12:53 PM on Wed Dec 18 2013
 3 Shout Outs!
I'm not a fan of Rosalina, but I think she'll have an interesting moveset, so she's a welcome addition in my book.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:25 AM on Wed Dec 18 2013
ROSALINA!! YES!!
GothamRed
said at 10:02 AM on Wed Dec 18 2013
@NCZ Based on her trailer, she may be replacing ice climbers. She has a similar play style with the tag team aspect.