Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
US Release: Dec 07, 2018
Japan Release: Dec 07, 2018
Europe Release: Dec 07, 2018

Popularity: 1,566th All Time, 5th This Week

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Jessica Marra
said at 4:35 PM on Sun Jun 17 2018
Forgot to mention, hearing Fox being played during the Nintendo treehouse, it did sound like Mike West is back as Fox but his voice is now like his portrayal in Star Fox Zero.

I know a lot of people will be pleased by this.

Nothing about Falco and Wolf's voice actors yet though.
Jessica Marra
said at 11:01 AM on Sun Jun 17 2018
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After hearing some of the Nintendo treehouse, Marcella Lentz-Pope is still female Corrin and of course Hellena Taylor is still Bayonetta.

Yes, Greg Chun is Ike and Yuri Lowenthal is Marth now.

Takahiro Sakurai is still Cloud. Shame they couldn't get Steve Burton to reprise Cloud here.

I'm guessing they're just gonna recycle the majority of character's voice clips from the precious game. Oh, well.

I AM looking forward to the new Palutena's guidance... I hope they bring that back! Those were entertaining as hell!
said at 5:18 AM on Mon Jun 18 2018
@Jessica Marra Same! I also hope that Snake Codecs come back; that’d be really cool!
said at 2:02 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
Here is every assist trophy discovered thus far.

I hope they get Wendee Lee back for Lyn and Dave Fennoy for Robin. I'm also curious to see if Travis Willingham will return for Knuckles.
said at 7:24 PM on Fri Jun 15 2018
said at 7:36 PM on Fri Jun 15 2018
@Amberdoll (Yes this is the super smash bros ultimate website)
said at 6:50 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
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I really hope that they get Sean Schemmel to reprise Lucario and Bryce Papenbrook to reprise Red.
said at 9:31 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Soul-dragon I wonder who's gonna voice Leaf.
said at 9:55 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I think it's the same voice actress as Red from Brawl. The voice actress voiced May in Pokemon and I heard gameplay and her voice sounded almost like May.

So in short Michele Knotz probably voices both male and female versions of Pokemon Trainer
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:51 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
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Man oh man. Now that I've had a couple days to process everything...

December is only one month away from the 20th anniversary of the original Super Smash Bros. It's crazy to think just how long it's been -- SSB is older now than the original Donkey Kong Arcade was in 1999!! But there can't be a better way to celebrate the occasion than with the ultimate dream match bringing EVERYONE together. SSB4 came close, but Ultimate... Man oh man. I knew and I'm so glad that Wolf and FREAKING SNAKE are back, but I never thought I would be happy to see Pichu again, and I was NOT expecting both Young AND Toon Link side-by-side.

I LOVE that the Zelda characters are now each themed on different games. While it made sense to make it all cohesive, I think as time went on they've realized it's harder to do that. Skyward Sword's Zelda design isn't suited to fighting, and Ganondorf isn't in the game at all, and BOTW has that too to a lesser extent. Now we have Link representing the modern and future era of the series, Ocarina of Time Ganondorf is BY FAR his definitive incarnation, and Zelda is now, well, a link to the series's past, which I think is a FANTASTIC tribute to the series's legacy. I'm also super happy with the Zero looks for Star Fox and adding Leaf as a Pokemon Trainer alt!

I think there will be a couple more newcomers, but I mean, they've gone above and beyond with bringing back EVERYONE. And holy crap, they FINALLY DID IT. After years, years of hemming, hawwing, ups and downs, just as everyone finally gets comfortable with the idea it'd never happen, Sakurai finds yet another way to pull off the apparently impossible. They ACTUALLY added Ridley! After all that, I think it's pretty fair not to want 20+ or something wild. Of course they'd be insane not to do DLC, but I think there might still be a couple surprises in store for the main game. I hope we're able to get some more series that haven't been in Smash yet. They've done a spectacular job welcoming Splatoon to the party (Moray Towers!! So many costumes!! CALLIE AND MARIE!!!), and I hope a couple others can get the red carpet treatment as well. I can't believe they actually added Ridley though.

They did an awesome job remastering older stages too. Melee Peach's Castle, Saffron City, Great Bay, Spear Pillar, Frigate Orpheon, Fourside, they're all FINALLY back, and they look gorgeous. Even the 3DS stages look like they've been completely redone from the ground up. I genuinely didn't even realize that Kongo Jungle wasn't a new stage until they pointed out. I think we'll definitely see a couple more new ones too. On the site there's actually a New Donk City stage that wasn't advertised or in the demo! I'd love to see new stages from Sun & Moon and Tropical Freeze...

It's too bad the voices won't be as completely refreshed as they could for some characters, and Marth speaking English will never not be weird, but friggin' David Hayter back in the saddle makes it all worth it. So good, man. So good.

Good job, Sakurai and Bamco. Good job indeed.
said at 1:10 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@NCZ Extremely well said. :)
said at 2:17 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@NCZ Sakurai deserves the greatest rest he could ever had after this. So much hard work, effort and soul is being put into the game.
said at 2:30 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@RetroPokeFan Especially since he added Ridley.
said at 11:33 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
Huh, I’m surprised Pit uses recycled voice clips from SSB4/Uprising judging by the Treehouse footage. Pit was one of the characters I was so confident in getting new voice clips due to Antony Del Rio’s little tease last summer:

My guess is that maybe he only recorded for new Palutena’s Guidance dialogue, but that would be a strange decision by Nintendo. But then again, Nintendo is a strange company haha.
said at 10:29 AM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@Chrono There’s still going to be new voice clips for Pit outside of the potential Guidance dialogue. In one segment of the Treehouse they mentioned that Pit has a new Star KO line that is reference to one chapter in Uprising where he reveals he doesn’t know how to read.
said at 10:47 PM on Sun Jun 17 2018

I mean, that’s exactly what I find strange. Why only partial new recordings? As far as I’m aware, there never has been an instance where Nintendo hired a VA to do only a couple new voice clips for a Smash Bros character. They either record all new or only reuse old clips. But I suppose there’s a first for everything heh.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:24 AM on Mon Jun 18 2018

I think they just reused the clip from Uprising.
said at 10:38 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
They just confirmed another VA on Treehouse Live (one of the assist trophies) but I couldn’t hear what they were saying. It’s on Nintendo’s E3 Day 3 Treehouse video when they bring out the Assist Trophy Dr. Wright front SimCity.
said at 10:38 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:01 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018

They were talking about how Nate Bihldorff voices Dr. Wright and Shy Guy.

It was so funny. JC was all "Really!? He works across the office from me, what am I doing!"
said at 8:07 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I wonder if they're adding any characters from Arms.
said at 6:53 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
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I’m glad the Miis have voices now too. I think it’d be cool if you could record your own voice for them! Anyway I wonder who’ll be voicing the Mii Fighters? 🤔
Swiftie Muggle
said at 5:36 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I wonder how this title will handle voice direction this time around.

From what we know certain characters are totally getting new voice overs like Ike , Marth and i fully expect the Zelda mains (Zelda and Link) to have new lines too since they don't have the Twilight Princess appearence anymore.

I however don't expect any new lines for the Mario characters, as much as i would love to hear how Laura Faye Smith (Rosalina's current voice) would handle Rosalina in such a big title like this one i think they will just reuse the Smash 4 voice overs for them, not that it matters to much since Kerri Kane is my favorite either way.
said at 5:34 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
I'd imagine they'll mostly be reusing voice clips from previous games. Considering they've been using Jigglypuff's lines since the first Smash Bros, I can't see what they wouldn't here.
I would like to see Michele Knotz back as Red, Brandy Kopp as Palutena and of course Laura Bailey as Lucina. If there isn't any new lines to record it wouldn't seem worth the hassle to get the VA's to record new lines if they can just reuse old clips.
Then again, for characters with new current VA's, they might want to update the clips, seeing as they did with Ike. I can imagine Lucina, Rosalina, and maybe the Koopalings having their VA's replaced.

I would also like to see Patricia Summersett take another go at Zelda, seeing as her BOTW voice was a little...dull. A fighting game is great to see an actor/actress give it their all with all the shouting they have to do. (but I doubt that will ever happen)
said at 11:05 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@SolVA In terms of Pokemon related stuff I think we might see new recordings (just not Jigglypuff unless they get Michele Knotz to do new lines as she is the current voice for it now but I doubt it) in terms of the Pokemon that keep their Japanese voice - Pikachu obviously and Pichu might.

Any new Pokemon such as Bewear will all be new recordings as well.

I'm interested to see what they'll do with Red, if they'll do new stuff or reuse older stuff from Brawl.

I think I heard on Twitter Fox is getting new recordings which I'm happy to hear since I thought Fox was the worst sounding out of all the characters in the Wii U-3DS games so I'm hoping he fares better on his Switch round.
said at 4:41 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@RetroPokeFan Same. I heard somewhere that even Mike West hated his own performance.
said at 9:28 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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The biggest question is going to be whether they reuse Lucina's Smash 4 lines, bring her back in for new lines, or bring Alexis Tipton in to reprise Lucina from Heroes and Warriors.

I also wonder if Palutena will be voiced by Ali Hillis like in Uprising or retain her Smash 4 voice.
said at 10:22 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018

Another big question is will Roy be confirmed to be voiced in English just like Marth? The only way to know is to see gameplay video of Roy.
said at 11:13 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@MHUltimate2013DW I would think that they'd want to bring Ray Chase in to voice Roy for this title. The only reason that they didn't use English voices for Marth and Roy in Smash 4 was because neither had an English voice when the game came out. Marth's first English voice was in Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. and Roy didn't get his English voice until Heroes.
said at 11:14 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@MHUltimate2013DW Also, I wonder if they'll have Wendee Lee voice Lyn now that Lyn is voiced by her in Heroes and Warriors and not Lani Minella anymore.
Andrew Tirol
said at 6:11 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018

Another big question is will Cloud be confirmed to be voiced in English just like Marth and Roy? Hopefully we'll see a gameplay video of Cloud...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:09 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Andrew Tirol

Someone actually played as Cloud in the Invitational, and it's still Sakurai voicing him (hard to hear over the commentary, but you can DEFINITELY hear his death scream when he gets KO'ed).

He's fighting Marth in the same battle and you can clearly hear Yuri as him, so it looks like Cloud will remain undubbed.
said at 4:46 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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Did anyone notice that Knuckles is now an Assist Trophy and that Shadow hasn't shown up yet? Because of that, I'm kind of curious as to whether or not the latter will be playable. Then again, it's just my opinion.
said at 3:37 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that Fiora is going to be part of Shulk's final smash now. Here's to hoping they get Carina Reeves back (and there goes any chance of me using Shulk LOL).
said at 12:14 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Soul-dragon I can easily see Reeves returning. Not just for this but her appearance in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 as well.
said at 8:29 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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Now that one impressive roster of characters can't wait
said at 7:55 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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I'm super hyped!!!!

(Please give me Simon Belmont. Even if he's just DLC.)
said at 7:19 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
I can't help being a bit sad that Marth will have his English voice. Nothing against Yuri, just prefer Hikaru Midorikawa's voice since that stuck to me since Melee. Not to mention, Roy will probably have an English voice too. Besides that, super excited for this game and so glad to see OoT Ganan back!
said at 6:19 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018
@Junniebgoode Considering the Switch isn’t region-locked, I feel like you can probably change your Switch’s language and have the voices change as well. We’ll see though!
said at 4:17 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@voiceactorfan1234 That'd definitely be cool!
said at 5:20 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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Jigglypuff is back...

That's enough for me to catch my attention and consider getting it in the future,
said at 5:07 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
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Am I the only one who's still expecting a few new characters?
said at 5:38 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Marusero I suppose we'll see some more in the future as DLC.

Wouldn't mind paying real money to continue supporting the series.
said at 12:36 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@RetroPokeFan Same. Dang it Nintendo just when I began thinking I could spend money on other things you always find a way to steal it!
said at 10:05 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I just realized. Since this game is using Ocarina of Time Ganondorf, does that mean Takashi Nagasako will voice him again? And that Zelda may be voiced by Ayumi Fujimura since she voiced Zelda in A Link Between Worlds?
said at 7:14 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Cartoonguy133 I really hope they get Takashi for Ganandorf. I always loved his Ganan voice, especially in Melee.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:15 AM on Thu Jun 14 2018

There was some clean footage of Ganondorf fighting Little Mac during Treehouse, and while I can't tell for sure if it's Nagasako, it's definitely new clips and not Miyata!

I figure Link will be Kengo Takanashi, Zelda Fujimura, and Young Link will still be Takimoto so they all match their original appearances? Mizusawa as Sheik and Matsumoto as Toon Link will obviously stay.
said at 7:12 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Today was a good day.
said at 7:04 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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After seeing Sonic's gameplay so far, he's still voiced by Roger (albeit via recycled clips from SSB4, which were recycled from Generations; if he was given the chance to record some new, though, I think he would've done a very decent job). Of course, we may have to wait until the game's out to take a look at the credits, but I still kind of wanted to point that out.
said at 5:23 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Confirmed! He's returning as the announcer in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate!
said at 6:13 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TommotheCabbit Well I definitely saw that coming. Good to see that life didn’t change and I look forward to him stealing my heart again!
said at 11:56 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Soul-dragon more like you "never saw it coming" get it? lame pun...
said at 10:01 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@sonic401 Haha Persona 5 reference. Good one !
said at 5:19 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Xander Mobus is the first announcer (in English/Japanese version) to return in a official new Smash game
said at 7:01 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
said at 3:34 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I 100% bet Yuri will return to play as Marth
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

He totally is but I won't add any credits that aren't officially confirmed.
said at 3:41 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

I'm glad Marth is able to speak English anyway
said at 3:54 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@clankfandom100 Hopefully Roy and Cloud can to.
said at 2:00 PM on Thu Jun 14 2018

I hope so too!

If Marth can speak English, so can Roy and Cloud
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:22 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I was watching the Japanese presentation to see if anything was different, and we did get ONE VA confirmation.

Hikaru Midorikawa has recorded new lines for Marth!

(Ike's clips are new too but he didn't get an announcement, lol. Makiko Ohmoto has also been teasing her involvement constantly since March.)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:27 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
Oh, while *Japanese* Ike isn't confirmed...
said at 3:46 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
Im so, so glad we’re getting new voice clips for the old vets. It’s one of the primary things I wanted for this game. Looking forward to Greg Chun as Ike, loved him in Heroes.
said at 3:53 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Chrono Same. My one gripe is that Ike sounds a bit to much like Ephiram at times...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:00 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

Only some of them though! From the invitational it seems like a lot of characters will still be using old clips.

I guess Sakurai just felt bad for Marth being the only FE character not to get new ones in SSB4/Ultimate...?
said at 4:15 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
Ah, that dampens my hype a teeny bit (not really lol). But Marth was one of the characters that desperately needed new ones, so I’m glad he got them.
said at 5:09 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ In a Fire Emblem book for the series’ 25th Anniversary, Sakurai was noted by the conductor of interview that Midorikawa wished he record his voice lines and said he would keep that in mind if there was next Smash game.
said at 7:54 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ Sounds like Cup of Tea is also behind the voices this time around. Nintendo has really taken a shine to them it seems.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

At least for Ike anyway. But that's how it was in SSB4 too. They used Cup of Tea for FE characters (and Magnus/Phosphora).

I'm kinda glad they have a good thing going but I do kinda wish we could shake things up a little here and there. Though that's something that goes beyond just Nintendo too. Ah well.
said at 2:52 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ Well they have recently used Formosa, Bang Zoom, and Side, but more variety is always welcome.
said at 3:13 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Nice to see everyone back. And to see Marth speaking English, guessing Roy will be too, unlike Zelda.
But I'm even happier to see Daisy - and to hear Deanna Mustard's cheerful Daisy voice in Smash!

I wonder if they'll recycle voice clips for characters like Rosalina, Palutena and Lucina's voice clips or have their current (Laura Faye Smith) , original (Ali Hillis) and fill-in/new (Alexis Tipton) to record the lines. It seems a rather tedious thing to do, unless they end up having new lines.
I hope they keep Brandy Kopp as Palutena though, I loved her voice. I'd like to see Laura Faye Smith take on the role as Rosalina this time to spice things up, although I do prefer Kerri Kane.
As for Lucina...Alexis only sounds good when she's grunting (oh that's harsh I'm sorry!)

Regardless, this game has a fun roster to it. Most likely clips will be recycled to save time and money, but hey - apparently voice acting doesn't matter in fighting games.
said at 6:30 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@PeachesDaisy We don't really know but there might be some hope since Smash Bros is most likely unionized.
said at 1:11 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Girlygeek43 I don't get the whole union/non-union thing, so no idea what you're saying there.
said at 7:05 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@PeachesDaisy As much as I would love Laura Bailey reprising her role as Lucina, I wouldn't be surprised if Alexis Tipton voices her in this. Tipton voiced her in FE Warriors and as Bunny Lucina in Heroes, so she seems to be the new VA for her. Tipton does a great job as well as Yu Kobayashi (of course cause she's the original JP) but to me Laura will always be the best Lucina.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:39 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018

They can just reuse Laura's SSB4 clips.
said at 9:41 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@PeachesDaisy If Alexis does voice her then I demand that Lucina has a new attack where brings out a bunch of gadgets and spends her entire time in the arena advertising them to the audience while tricking her opponent to show them off.
said at 10:24 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ I'd rather have them do that, though I feel like they always want to get fresh new recordings. We'll just have to wait and see.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:41 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Junniebgoode "I feel like they always want to get fresh new recordings."

Why would you think that? For veterans 4 reused far more clips than it rerecorded.
said at 2:06 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ They didn't reuse Jason Griffith's voice for Sonic. So anything can hqppen.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:23 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018

If anything Sonic is the exact opposite. First of all the entire voice cast for the series changed on an official/permanent basis so obviously this would need to be updated. That is a very different situation then a fill-in caused mostly by scheduling conflicts. The fact that she still voiced her in base Heroes and even gained the role of Palla really should be proof enough that there was no intention to replace her because they don't want her in the role anymore.

On top of that Roger didn't actually record anything new for SSB4. They reused various clips from games like Colours and London Olympics.

That actually supports that if Lucina doesn't *NEED* to have new dialogue recorded then it would actually be less efficient to record entirely new clips than to just reuse her work from SSB4. There's precedent for that in Fates where they reused her lines from Awakening. If anything assuming they would replace her is the bigger ask.
said at 3:34 PM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@NCZ Oh yeah. I forgot about that.
said at 4:16 PM on Sat Jun 16 2018
@Nightmare Crusher Good point.
said at 2:16 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I love this so freaking much. hopefully I can actually get a Switch one of these days.
said at 3:52 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@HylianBelmont You still don’t have one? LOL I brought one the day they announced that Fire Emblem wouldn’t be on the 3DS anymore (and by that I mean Christmas).
said at 3:00 AM on Wed Jun 13 2018
@Soul-dragon I shall upgrade one day, just... not yet, haha.
Shaun Ince
said at 1:55 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Everyone is back
said at 1:22 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I'm dead
said at 1:07 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Apparently Jason Adkins is gone as Ike? He was super vintage.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:27 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman I'm guessing Greg Chun is now voicing Ike. I'm ok with that.c
said at 1:43 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman He hasn’t voiced Ike for over a year now, since being replaced in Heroes. It’s a shame yes since he was just beginning to get really good but oh well. I’m just happy you get an option to play as his PoR design, since I’ve never really been big on the RD one.
said at 1:57 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

There is a reason why the "Gorilla Ike" memes exists in Japan.
said at 2:15 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@TheDayman It's definitely a shame IMO. Especially considering how much I loved his performance from Brawl/SSB4. But I don't mind Greg Chun either however (though it's not his best role in the series, IMO)

At least Hayter is back as Snake however, so that's most certainly great news.
said at 11:45 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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I am so happy that everyone is back for ultimate also the new characters
said at 11:38 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Didn't think Sakurai and team would bring back every character who showed up in the past Smash entries, but by Final Destination...! They did it! Ice Climbers, Wolf, Snake, even Pichu is here!! And what's more is Ridley is playable... Yeah, RIDLEY!!! Who was too big again!? Remind me again, please, guys...

To say I'm hyped for SSB5 would be the understatement of the friggin' century. The artwork so far is looking *gorgeous* as well! BRING ON ULTIMATE, BAYBEE!!!
said at 11:35 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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*immediately faints after seeing the whole lineup*

And Marth's finally got Yuri Lowenthal voicing him, friggin sweet.

Not to mention David Hayter's back as Snake and we're gonna get an all star lineup of some truly talented voice actors from across the world.

This is an absolute dream come true, I never would have thought in my whole life they could have done something like this but Nintendo sure loves surprising us all.

The aforementioned Snake, Daisy, Ridley, Cloud, both Greninja and Lucario, the trainers, Bewear!

It just goes on and on.... this is definitely the game that'll make me consider getting a Switch.
said at 11:37 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@RetroPokeFan Whoops, forgot no one aside from Hayter's been announced.

Mean to say "And from what I've heard from the trailer, it looks like Marth's finally got Yuri Lowenthal voicing him."
said at 12:16 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@RetroPokeFan I wonder if Ray Chase will be Roy and I wouldn't be surprised if Alexis Tipton is voicing Lucina.
said at 12:39 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

It also sounds like Greg Chun is back as Ike.
Jessica Marra
said at 1:32 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Cartoonguy133 It definitely sounded like Greg Chun as Ike. I swear, if Ray Chase voices Roy here... I'll be beyond happy! I wanna hear Ray Chase in Smash!
said at 6:35 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Cartoonguy133 I see your point but on one hand Laura might be able to come back since Smash Bros is most likely unionized. But on the other hand she is having a baby. So who knows?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:40 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Girlygeek43 Union or not was never Laura's issue, it's scheduling. 4 was non union and she came back for that.
said at 11:23 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate!
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:40 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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said at 10:00 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Now this right here, is the most ambitious crossover in history.
said at 11:55 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@Chrono Eat it, Infinity War.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:40 PM on Tue Jun 12 2018

Eat it, MVC Infinite.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:56 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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said at 9:47 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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It looks like everyone from the previous games are back and...the absolute madman actually just confirmed Ridley as a playable character! Nintendo what have you done?
said at 9:45 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Nintendo Wong E3 and this is the reason why
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:44 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
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Game over, man.

said at 1:03 PM on Tue Apr 17 2018

- Rex (with Pyra and Mythra)
- Snake
- Morag (maybe)
- Ice Climbers
- Chrom
- Azura
- Sephiroth
- Ridley
- Knuckles
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:11 PM on Tue Apr 17 2018

I wouldn't mind Morag at all. Xenoblade 2 has so many characters who would be good in Smash.

Zeke could be funny (even as an Assist Trophy) and Malos would be a great villain choice. They could have a whole system where Blade Cores are an item that let you summon the various Blades... I'm really excited to see what they do with Xenoblade 2 in the game!


I figure Rex using Pyra and Mythra as his main blades he swaps between makes sense. His final smash would involve the two combining like they do towards the end of the game and using Supernova. Ooh, and a really cool bonus would be if Nia's blade form is part of his moveset...
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:34 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
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As for who I personally want, here's my wishlist.

- Mimikyu
- New!Pokemon Trainer (N, Lillie... Would be sweet if it was a specific character. Uses Serperior, Totodile, and Combusken, or any combination of their pre/evos)
- Rex (with Pyra and Mythra)
- Lip
- Saki
- Dixie Kong
- K. Rool
- Captain Toad and Toadette
- Hades
- Isabelle
- Savvy Stylist
- Chibi Robo
- Mallo
- Rhythm Girl and Monkeys
- Banjo and Kazooie
- Linkle

If we got multiple characters from third-party series:
- Knuckles
- Eggman
- Jeanne
- Rodin
- Chun Li

We got my Squid Kidz, they were at the top for me, so already we're good there! As for ARMS, while I think obviously Spring Man or Ribbon Girl would be the first choices, personally I'd go with Min Min, Twintelle, Mechanica, or Dr. Coyle...

Since Link is being updated with his BOTW look, obviously I figure they can beef up his moveset a little. Change his bombs to remote bombs, maybe change his up-B to the Paraglider, and work in some of the other runes like Magnesis and Stasis. Then Zelda can get some of the Champion's abilities. Swapping out the Sage's abilities for those makes sense to me, especially since a lot of them are pretty similar (e.g. Nayru's Love = Daruk's Protection, Farore's Wind = Revali's Gale... though that one could make sense for Link too).

It's too bad we're reaching critical mass for FE characters because Sigurd, Hector, Ephraim and Eirika would all be AWESOME Smash characters. Celica would be cool too but maybe a bit close to Robin. Obviously I wonder about the chances of FE Switch making it in the game are but I think it'd be easier to think about that when the game's announced.
said at 12:35 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@NCZ Alright then I'll make my list as well as who I think should be cut.


Crash Bandicoot
Nia+Dormarch (yes I know this is an odd one but Nia is insanely popular on both the Xenoblade subreddit and GameFAQs board. Rex is way to clique for my liking TBH.)
Snake (Please bring him back my brother mained Snake in Brawl and needs him back!)

Third Party:
Chun Li
Crash Bandicoot
Nagito Komeada
Joker/Akrise Kurisu
Shovel Knight

All and all I can't wait to see who gets in. And it's not going to be Ridley BTW. He's to big for Smash.

I also wish to have a new Subspace Emibassy. Granted it wasn't the best story in the world and it lead to the SamusXPikachu ship, but I still loved every minute of it from start to finish.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:14 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018

Cuts? Nah.
said at 2:27 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Soul-dragon I kind of disagree on Greninja being cut for this game, and like I said, I would be interested to see a Grass Pokemon alongside him and Charizard. To me, that would make sense. Besides, if Lucario was able to return from Brawl to SSB4, so can Greninja (at least IMO). TBH, I wouldn't mind seeing all the Pokemon characters from SSB4 return (and I hope that's the case).

If there's a certain character I would cut, though, that would be the Wii Fit Trainer.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:43 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018

Nooooo! Wii Fit Trainer is hilarious.

Really though, considering the likely nature of this game building off SSB4 and how cuts have historically been in the past I don't think we need to worry about being too cut-happy here. Cutting unique characters for no apparent developmental reason has pretty much never happened outside Mewtwo and he eventually came back.
said at 3:35 PM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@NCZ I'm lucky since my mains are Meta Knight and Kirby but I do feel like one character is going to get cut at the end of the day. My bets are on Greninja personally but if I had to pick it would be Corrin (always felt that Azura should've gotten in instead so we have a lance user).

However for 6 I'm planning on maining Kirby or Marth myself. Maybe Jigglypuff or Roy if I feel like it.
said at 7:19 AM on Thu Apr 19 2018

Eh, I'm just not a fan of the character in the game, but I still respect your opinion.

Perhaps we'll be seeing little to no cuts, though I do feel like a few characters would need to be given the boot. Regarding Marth and Lucina, I would love to see the latter as an alternate skin for the former (IMO, we would reserve a character slot). As for Mario and Luigi, why not let them have movesets (or at least some new moves) inspired by Odyssey and Luigi's Mansion, respectively? If that's the case, then I wouldn't mind Dr. Mario. In fact, here's a list of some characters I'd like to see return for this game:

-Dixie Kong*
-Decidueye or the fully-evolved Grass starter from Gen 8
-Marth (with Lucina as an alternate skin)
-Chibi-Robo* (never played his/its games, though)
-Shovel Knight* (never played his game, though)

* = new fighters

Some of these picks may not be likely, I will admit, but that's just me.
said at 2:08 PM on Wed May 9 2018
Disregard the "return" on my comment above.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 11:38 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
@NCZ "Cuts? Nah."

NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:54 AM on Tue Jun 12 2018
I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!
said at 9:42 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
If we got a new Pokemon representative, I would like to see either Decidueye or the fully-evolved Grass starter from Gen 8. Why? So we can round up the Fire-Water-Grass core. If Gen 8 is released next year, then Decidueye should get in; if said game is released this year, however, then that other Pokemon I mentioned should be included. This is just me, though I'm certain that some of you might agree.

Any other characters you'd like to see? (I have a special rule: no characters from manga/anime, cartoons, movies, etc.)
said at 10:16 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Marusero I've already stated my top choice. It's this

But realistically it would be sweet to see Walugi in this.
said at 11:26 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018
@Marusero Already said what characters I'd love to see somewhere on here but it would be great in Incineroar was in too.

Seems like this type of game would be the perfect time for it to shine.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:33 AM on Mon Apr 16 2018

To be fair I think it's safe to say that's the one rule that will never be broken.

As for Pokemon Switch, I think it would make sense to have a Pokemon from Sun and Moon in the base game, and someone from Pokemon Switch as DLC. That way we get the best of both worlds and it probably makes sense from a development point of view.
said at 4:54 PM on Thu Mar 22 2018
 4 Shout Outs!
According to this source we'll get more information on this game at E3. At the moment this could go two ways.
Either way why must it be so far away!
said at 4:59 PM on Tue Mar 20 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
Y'all ready to re-litigate Goku's chances again /s?
said at 5:25 PM on Thu Mar 22 2018
said at 2:55 AM on Tue Mar 27 2018
@Scrappy-Fan92 I am really scared to see what would be Goku’s final smash.
said at 10:55 AM on Tue Mar 13 2018
 3 Shout Outs!
Well it's official. The WiiU is dead. No one is going to keep theirs after this. Let's take a moment to mourn.
said at 7:16 PM on Thu Mar 15 2018
@Soul-dragon F
said at 12:13 PM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 1 Shout Out!
I gotta say, when I saw the reveal trailer, it was the most excited I've been in two years of my life!
said at 12:59 PM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@Super10ZX Indeed. I'm also feeling a bit giddy since it'll be my first time riding a hype train since both FEW and DRV3 disappointed me in some way.
said at 9:01 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
Let's face it. The two best things to come of this trailer are the Inkling Girl Eye memes
and Etika's reaction.
said at 7:48 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 1 Shout Out!
Here's my Newcomer prediction list based on evidence of being a new game. And takes into consideration of all the characters from the previous game to return alongside Wolf, Ice Climbers, and Pichu. And to keep in mind of the number of newcomers added for each installment, this one could have the count of 27 newcomers and 9 DLC characters if Smash is truly expanding to many degrees.

Captain Toad (Captain Toad Treasure Tracker)
Paper Mario (Paper Mario)
King K.Rool (Donkey Kong Country)
Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong Country)
Prince Sidon (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild)
Impa (Hyrule Warriors)
A new character from Prime 4 (Metroid)
Decidueye (Pokemon Sun and Moon)
A Gen 8 Pokemon
Knuckle Joe (Kirby)
Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle)
Lip (Panel de Pon)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Sami (Advance Wars)
The Chorus Men (Rhythm Heaven)
Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
Celica (Fire Emblem: Shadows of Valentia)
A new character from Fire Emblem Switch (Fire Emblem)
Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
Rex & Pyra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2)
Inklings (Splatoon)
Spring Man (ARMS)
Spring Girl (ARMS)
Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo & Kazooie)
Lloyd Irving (Tales of Symphonia)
Shove Knight (Shovel Knight)

Mimikyu (Pokemon Sun and Moon)
Paula (Earthbound)
Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western)
Min Min (ARMS)
Rowan/Lianna (Fire Emblem Warriors)
Joker (Persona 5)
Shantae (Shantae Half Genie Hero)
Joseph Joestar (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
Ruby Rose (RWBY) Or Spider-Man or Rey (Star Wars) (I'm including the possibility of Fourth-party characters given that with Smash expanding more and more in their inclusion, that HAL should take another step beyond by including non-game characters. Not to mention that Sakurai is a fan of Battle Tendency.)
said at 8:36 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Luigikun TBH I don't want anime/comic book /movie characters in this. It's a celebration of video games and Nintendo as a whole. Putting Joseph, Ruby, Spider Man or Rey in it would ruin everything. Yes there are some 4th party characters but they don't take up a majority of the roster and there stories can be played on a Nintendo console.
said at 9:40 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Soul-dragon In that case, I added Crash Bandicoot and Saber Artoria Pendragon (Visual Novels can count as games) in case the 4th parties don't get in.

Other than that, thoughts on the roster?
said at 9:46 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Luigikun I don't want Rowan and Lianna in but I definitely agree on Crash, Joker and Shaetae. Mimikyu is also a nice pick, it's never occurred to me and it's nice and unique. However my top choice for Smash is definitely this:
said at 9:51 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Soul-dragon Why Nagito? XD
said at 9:54 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Luigikun Because we all need to eat more hope bagels.
said at 9:57 AM on Mon Mar 12 2018
@Soul-dragon Ahhhhh.

Maybe this could be a special game of the franchise given that it's meant to celebrate 20 years of Smash, right?
said at 1:49 AM on Wed Mar 21 2018
@Luigikun I'm seriously hoping either Gin or Malos from Xenoblade 2 appears. They'd be really good in action, probably throw in Zeke too.
said at 2:45 AM on Wed Mar 21 2018
@RetroPokeFan Anyone else?
said at 2:52 AM on Wed Mar 21 2018
@Luigikun Some of these'll be nothing but a pipe dream but

Boggy B (Worms)
Incineroar, Ultra Necrozma (Pokemon S&M)
Somebody from Final Fantasy
Crash Bandicoot
Banjo (Banjo Kazooie since I heard that somebody from Microsoft is still willing to let him appear)
Someone from Xenoblade Chronicles X
Roy (Fire Emblem, just to hear the sweet voice of Ray Chase if they get him on board)
Tora (Xenoblade 2, if Riki could make it to the 2014 game chances are Tora will follow suit, not sure about Tatsu though, extra points if Poppi is there too)
Waluigi (not for meme value but because I'm surprised he hasn't been in Smash yet, same for King K Rool)

and that's all I can think of for now.
Shaun Ince
said at 7:37 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 2 Shout Outs!
This is one of my most anticipated games for the Nintendo Switch. Always loved Smash Bros & it's great so see a standalone game for Nintendo's current console.
said at 12:26 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
 1 Shout Out!
Finally the game that has without a doubt trashed the Wii U for good.
said at 4:58 PM on Tue Mar 20 2018
@RetroPokeFan Eh. This is probably a new game, so it's not like Smash Wii U or Smash 3DS are made redundant.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:23 PM on Fri Mar 9 2018
 10 Shout Outs!
Some things to think about to help guide discussion:
- Sakurai IS back.
- Development of the game started in 2016 - two years ago. If the game comes out this fall then that will be 2 and a half years of development time. That's the same amount of time that SSB4 (June 2012 - September/November 2014) and Brawl (October 2005 - January 2008) got.
- It's very likely that the game will at least be built heavily off of SSB4 since they can reuse the engine and iterate on the characters, stages, animations, modes, etc... But at the same time, SSB4 was built off of Brawl and Brawl off Melee. So it's not like it's going to be a simple port. There has been plenty of time for them for a brand new game's worth of content and upgrades.

Now, what do I think?

First of all - wow, the game is coming in 2018! I was hopeful that Smash would be one of their biggest games this year, and I'm really glad that it really will be. I remember after SSB4 came out, I was bracing for another 6-year cycle. So between 2018 and 2020? Totally happy that Smash is coming sooner. I think they'll probably release it in September to tie in with the launch of their paid online program, but depending on what else they have for fall it could maybe be in October or even November.

Second of all the Inklings are finally here. Long overdue since we all thought they'd be a lock for SSB DLC, but I'm so happy to see them at last. BOTW Link too - I'm really excited by the possibility they might refresh Link with some of the runes and other abilities, and it'd be great if we could get other outfits like Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword, and Twilight Princess as alts. And don't even get me started on how much potential it has for stages... I might honestly be as excited for stages as I am for characters. BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 alone could probably give you at least a dozen each!

SSB4's roster is already so insane that it's hard to think of who else they could fit in, but as far as Pokemon go Decidueye, Primarina, or Mimikyu would be sweet, and Bewear, Oranguru, or Tsareena for a left-field pick! Bring back Wolf, Ice Climbers, and Snake and we've got the ultimate collection across the series.

I'm hoping we get an Adventure Mode. SSB4, as dense as it is, had to cut some corners in order to make that 2-year turnaround time and HD transition, and Adventure Mode was the biggest loss. This time around though, I'm hoping they've had enough time that they can justify it, just like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe managed to add back a proper Battle Mode. Whether it's like Melee or a story like Brawl's, I'm really looking forward to see it come back.

As for a third-party character? I got Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. At this point, there's only one guest character who can possibly top that.
said at 5:26 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@NCZ I honestly want Crash Bsndicoot, the Persona 5 protagonist and Prompto Argentum (because Noctis has already gotten way to much attention).
said at 6:03 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@Soul-dragon Don't forget Genos, Amaterasu, Ryu Hayabusa, Zero, Crono, and if possible, a fourth party character.
said at 7:48 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@NCZ How's aboot Goku? :P
said at 8:26 AM on Sat Mar 10 2018
@Ghosty404 That's only going to happen if Lucario gets in.
said at 8:20 PM on Fri Mar 23 2018
To be honest every video game character should be in this
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