Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Voice Director: Wendee Lee

US Release: May 19, 2017
Japan Release: Apr 20, 2017
Europe Release: May 19, 2017

Game Developer: Intelligent Systems

Popularity: 32nd All Time, 17th This Week

Franchise: Fire Emblem
Characters on BTVA: 61
Ground-up remake of Fire Emblem Gaiden (1992)
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NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:51 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
Finally finished the game a few nights ago and I really enjoyed it. I would honestly say this is my favourite of the 3DS FEs. I never really gave Gaiden a fair shake before, but this is a prime example of how you do a remake justice. The only real beef I had were the map designs, Act 4/5 throwing Celica under the bus, and some of the casual sexism. Aside from that though, nice VO, cool OST, and amazing artwork and designs by Hidari. A great sendoff for the series on 3DS.
doodlebugfour
said at 9:09 AM on Fri Nov 10 2017
@NCZ Also needs more support conversations, characters such as Kliff, Tobin, Silque, Tatianna, Genny, Atlas, Jesse, Deen, Nomah, and especially Faye could have benefited more characterization to stand out than what we were given.
Soul-dragon
said at 9:49 AM on Sat Nov 11 2017
@doodlebugfour Yeah I wish that both Faye and Kliff had gotten more screen time. It's a shame since Kliff is my favorite of the villagers and Faye desperately needed some more things going for her character besides the whole 'I love Alm' thing.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:39 AM on Sat Nov 11 2017
@doodlebugfour

I'm in two minds because while I don't think that would've hurt, I was fine with how they handled supports. Didn't go too overboard and there's only so much they can do with the main story. Adding in base conversations helped shine a lot of light on some of them too.

Faye I think was just a flawed premise. Being obsessed with Alm means there's nothing really to her character that doesn't involve being related to someone else, and even that is pretty one-note and ties into the whole casually sexist thing I mentioned being a recurring issue throughout the game. Since she was a new character I thought it was a shame they totally squandered that blank slate.

Nomah though... I genuinely would have missed him if I didn't have to backtrack when I needed a class change. Him and Mycen were the only characters I never used, lol.
Soul-dragon
said at 2:01 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Not going to lie I really want another remake and ones probably on the way. I read somewhere that Nintendo was pleased with this games sales so another is very likely. In that case...can I have either Genaogly of the Holy War (without any censorship and an M rating) or Scared Stones? Please? Oh and also I maybe was thinking about an anime based on the Tellius series...can it happen Nintendo?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:53 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
@Soul-dragon

I definitely think Genealogy should be next. Nintendo did note in one of their investors' meetings that the game sold pretty strongly so I feel good about the chances of further remakes. Genealogy is beloved in Japan and the remakes so far have been a perfect opportunity to finally bring over the games that never got localized. So I hope they do Genealogy/Thracia next. As much as I'd love a Sacred Stones or Blazing Blade remake, I do think it's probably best if the older and non-localized games get their shot at the sun first.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:37 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
@NCZ I definitely agree. However if they do remake Genealogy I really hope they make it rated M so that they don't have to dum down the dark themes in the game (rape, child abuse, a women being tortured to death, killing off the entire army, incest, etc). What I love so much about Genealogy is the dark story and censoring it would honestly be like censoring Madoka Magica or Danganronpa.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:59 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
@Soul-dragon

Yeah, I guess that's the part that makes you wonder. Nintendo haven't been unwilling to have M-rated first-party games but I guess it might be tricky having to bump up an established series that's not often thought of in the same way. But honestly though I don't know if it'll be too much of an issue. Persona is rated M for example (admittedly one of the softest Ms in all of gaming) and there's definitely a lot of overlap between the fanbases, so I don't think too many people should be affected, especially since I know it's the older fans who really like Genealogy.
Soul-dragon
said at 1:51 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
Where did BTVA find out the English voices for the DLC characters?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:58 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
@Soul-dragon

Ongoing discussion here:

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20110
Stone4D
said at 10:24 AM on Thu Oct 19 2017
 1 Shout Out!
This was easily some of the greatest video game dubbing work I've ever heard. Hopefully Fire Emblem Switch follows suit.
Soul-dragon
said at 12:47 PM on Fri Nov 3 2017
@Stone4D Agreed. I really hope that Nintendo feels the same as well. Some of the performances were perfect and it did get a ton of praise, although it's definitely safe to say that the one who got most of (if not all) of the praise was Ian Sinclair which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. The last performance we got in a Nintendo dub that was that good would have to be Adam Howden's Shulk. Everyone else did great as well though.
Delphi
said at 5:12 AM on Thu Jun 22 2017
Are the VAs for the DLC Cipher characters known yet?
Soul-dragon
said at 9:54 AM on Thu Jun 22 2017
@Delphi No idea. Here are my predictions based on what I heard...
Randal-Joe J Thomas
Emma- Amber Conner
Yuzu- Bonnie Gordon
Shade- Tara Jayne
King Marth 64
said at 2:51 PM on Thu Jun 22 2017
@Soul-dragon I think Emma sounded more like Chermai Leigh and I'm pretty sure Yuzu is most likely Monica Rial since that voice range sounded a lot similar to Mila's.
Sentinel07
said at 5:13 PM on Thu Jun 22 2017
@King Marth 64 Yeah, I'm fairly certain Emma is Cherami Leigh. I'm getting way too many Mae vibes from that voice.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:32 PM on Tue Jun 20 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
This might just be my favorite dub of the year. All of the vocal performances were fantastic and the raw emotion in some of the characters voices was amazing (especially Berkut and Alm).
Stelman257
said at 2:23 AM on Mon Jul 3 2017
@Soul-dragon Oh my god Ian Sinclair was so into Berkut, I loved it. Towards the end especially he got so (for lack of better word), ~Shakespeare~, with his dialogue. I mean you kinda have to when you're going mad and telling the world everything is LIES.

Ray Chase as Fernand I also really loved, gave a very fun stuck up noble performance, with some great hints of what lied behind the angry facade.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:55 AM on Sat Jun 17 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
I finished Act 6 finally... And it was a pretty nice game overall. It had some good characters and great music (Though it was a tad repetitive at times) but I do actually prefer Gaiden's version of Act 5. Not that SOV's version was necessarily bad... I just liked how it was handled more in the OG Gaiden (You felt more urgency to save Celica's party in comparison, and I liked how it made the way both parties were set out in the final map make MUCH more sense. Also I kinda preferred it a bit more story-wise too)

My favourite voices from the cast were from Celica, Jedah, Fernand, Mathilda, Mila, Duma, Catria, Deen, Zeke, and Lukas! And "The Creation" also had some great lore/backstory to his character in Thabes Labyrinth. And if any of you know about him in Awakening, than you'll know that he's the character that desperately NEEDED some backstory in that game XD
Stelman257
said at 2:24 AM on Mon Jul 3 2017
@HylianBelmont What did you think about the way new characters were implemented into the story? Berkut and Fernand specifically, but Conrad gets a fair few scenes as well. Faye is new but not really story relevant.
HylianBelmont
said at 3:21 AM on Mon Jul 3 2017
@Stelman257 They got the job done in their respective villain roles IMO, no complaints really. Conrad was a great "dorky older brother" character who fit in the game's story well enough, although his "reveal" was even more obvious than Masked Marth's haha.

That being said, I WISH Faye and Kliff had gotten more story lines than they actually did, granted I understand both are optional. But still I would've liked them to talk about certain events during the story a bit more like Tobin and Gray get to do, if that makes sense.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:57 PM on Thu Nov 9 2017
@HylianBelmont

I don't know how Gaiden did it in comparison but I thought it was a bummer that most of the game was pretty good at treating Alm and Celica like equal protagonists, but then at the end of Act 4 it's all, "nah, forget that, this is Alm's story now". Seeing Celica reduced to a damsel for most of the ending was a real shame for me.
Soul-dragon
said at 5:49 PM on Mon Nov 13 2017
@NCZ Same. It really reduced her character and it was sad to see her get so easily tricked. Even Xander wouldn't have fallen for something so dumb.
Soul-dragon
said at 1:11 PM on Sat Jun 3 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_4cVKAoPtQ&t=2497s For those you you who are interested in seeing Kyle McCarley play the game and voice some un-voiced lines.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 12:09 PM on Sun May 21 2017
 7 Shout Outs!
We have six Chris'es in this dub - Cabanos, Patton, Smith, Valenzuela, Cason, & Hackney. All that's left, off TOMH, is Sabat & Niosi. &, uh, KZS, since she directed Fates' dub. Just a random observation...
technickal
said at 9:52 AM on Tue May 23 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed Now that you mention it, I would like to see those two in the next game.
Fulgore2005
said at 11:30 AM on Sun May 21 2017
 6 Shout Outs!
It's nice to see the likes of Monica Rial, Bonnie Gordon, Dorothy Fahn, Grant George and Lucien Dodge in a Nintendo game.

Amusing considering that they have worked on God Eater 2 and Resurrection (Remaster of GE: Burst).
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 12:10 PM on Sun May 21 2017
@Fulgore2005 I have to say it's just wonderful hearing Monica Rial & other Texas VA's in a game.
numbuh34
said at 6:43 PM on Thu Jun 1 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed Along with Ian Sinclair and Alexis Tipton! Hope all 3 of them along with more Texas va's from funimation get more Cali va work like Todd Haberkorn and Cherami Leigh did
ScottMyers
said at 11:09 AM on Sun May 21 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
It's cool to see Sean Chiplock play another old character after landing the Great Tree in Breath of the Wild. Despite his self-admitted tendency towards playing teenage hero types, Nintendo and Jamie Mortellaro's experimentation with his range has really benefited him.
Soul-dragon
said at 1:32 PM on Sat May 20 2017
I wonder why Travis couldn't come back as Camus/Zeke. Is it possible he's going down the same route as Laura Bailey and Troy Baker?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:19 PM on Sat May 20 2017
@Soul-dragon

He has been for a while. All three of them were in inFamous. But yeah, Travis is no slouch when it comes to being in-demand; I wouldn't be surprised if he has some meaty mocap roles in the pipeline.
Soul-dragon
said at 3:23 PM on Sat May 20 2017
@NCZ Sigh. I hate it when that happens. I'd honestly prefer it if voice directors choose to cast some more underused voice actors (like Xanthe Huygn and Chris Hackley) instead of the more experienced ones.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:30 PM on Sat May 20 2017
@Soul-dragon

It's a shame. It feels like it could've been avoidable too since I'm sure Nintendo would have known Echoes was in the pipeline while working on Heroes, but I guess no one involved in the process took potential scheduling conflicts down the road into account.

I guess there's only so much that could've been done. I think Laura and Travis got Palla and Camus not just because they fit the part but also partly out of convenience since they would've needed to be in the game to reprise Lucina and Lon'qu anyway, so like I said I suppose it was just something that didn't seem like a big deal at the time and just whatever was the right decision at the moment that unfortunately couldn't be followed up on.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 9:56 PM on Fri May 19 2017
It's just great to see Darin De Paul, Mick Wingert, Greg Chun, & Julianne Alexander in more dubs, especially with Wendee Lee; plus, a ton of wonderful VAs from Texas. I would like to see more game dubs like this, I really enjoy even just seeing this kind of cast. It might also be cool to see these guys in LA anime dubs in the same fashion. The diversity on display here is just...surreal.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:28 PM on Fri May 19 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed

I've said it before but games and anime are really different beasts. Just because there's frequent overlap doesn't automatically mean that all VAs who work on game dubs here and there will always be available or interested in or able to justify working on anime in all cases. Very different levels of commitment, work, all that jazz.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 10:31 AM on Sat May 20 2017
@NCZ Oh, yeah, for sure. It's definitely not necessarily an expectation as, yes, there's a moderate downgrade in pay between anime & (non-union) game dubs, however there's enough overlap, plus the common thing of directors bringing in familiar actors on other projects, that it definitely feels like more of a possibility. I'm not necessarily thinking they'll be regulars or major players, more like bit parts & things like that. (tons of really unexpected awesome VAs have done bit parts & filler in Naruto & Bleach dubs).

Darin De Paul & Julianne Alexander specifically, while they're in a few high-profile projects, are also kind of new VAs, & I feel as if they have potential to be in that department. Greg Chun actually *has* worked on a few really great anime dubs recently - Mob Psycho 100 & HxH specifically.

Also I still think there's the potential for LA/Texas dual-studio dubs, hopefully with the discussion of FUNi's new Texas studio we'll have more of that. Would kinda be nice if maybe more LA (dub & otherwise) studios had facilities in Texas as well; they are just a motherlode of great talent who're willing to work non-union as well. I dunno, but I dont nearly think it's out of the question.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 12:04 PM on Sun May 21 2017
@NCZ & welp, Greg Chun was announced for yet another anime role - Occultic; Nine. That's just great.
CaptainGrumpy
said at 6:18 PM on Fri May 19 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
Ian Sinclair, Alexis Tipton, Caitlin Glass and Monica Rial? that's a surprise , glad to see a lot more of these Texas/LA voice crossovers

also always nice to see some of the more underused VAs like Joe J. Thomas, Tara Jayne and Brianna Knickerbocker
CJ Sims
said at 3:18 PM on Fri May 19 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Monica Rial? Who woulda known?
TheKrystalite
said at 11:10 AM on Fri May 19 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
Wow! Most Fire Emblem cast lists and voice directors never fail to impress us! And Echoes is no exception, especially with Texas VAs added to the mix! More of this please Wendee! :D
Dee15gon
said at 2:16 PM on Fri May 19 2017
@TheKrystalite Especially Monica Rial and Chris Patton.

But Chris took me by surprise even more.
TheKrystalite
said at 6:19 PM on Fri May 19 2017
@Dee15gon You name it!
sennen3
said at 8:28 AM on Fri May 19 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
This is such a freakin' great cast!!
RetroPokeFan
said at 2:13 AM on Thu May 18 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
I'm truly impressed with the casting for these games, there seems to be some perfectly casted roles as well as a couple of Texas actors too. Loving this variety.
LeDom
said at 6:17 PM on Wed May 17 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
Damn son, not only do I see very little double casting (something Fates in particular was very egregious for) but a good number of fresh faces for the series both veteran and young talents. Not to mention Texas based actors.

https://youtu.be/TIlUe5QyQYc

I also skimmed through this video and can say Echoes it's probably the best dub for a Fire Emblem game we've had yet.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:56 AM on Thu May 18 2017
@LeDom Considering just how many characters were actually in Fates, and how the majority of the game wasn't fully voiced. It does make sense that they went with the amount of triple/double castings that they did (and in Stanbra's case, he even played 7!)

And I'd say I most certainly agree with you and KazeNinja on this being the best Fire Emblem dub yet. Wendee Lee did about as lovely as job as you'd expect from her :)
Unknownsage13
said at 11:48 PM on Thu May 18 2017
@HylianBelmont Wendee been killing it this year. Tales of Berseria, Nier Automata, Fire Emblem Echoes. I didn't realize she was such a great director.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:26 AM on Fri May 19 2017
@Unknownsage13 She most certainly is!
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 9:52 AM on Fri May 19 2017
@Unknownsage13 tbh she's always been fantastic directing dubs - Bleach (one of my favorite anime dubs!), Lull in the Sea, Doraemon, Dragon Ball Super (she does very well with what she has), Outlaw Star, Xenosaga III, pretty much ALL the Tales dubs, Klonoa, & even really big-budget stuff like Laws of the Universe & Rogue Galaxy.

Makes sense they'd still give her some of the big stuff - she's definitely been doing dubs long enough to really have a handle on what makes a great dub. I pretty much love all the VO she's directed.
Abdullab
said at 10:36 AM on Fri May 19 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed speaking of super its a strange coincidence she worked with rial on her recent projects given they share the same role of bulma.

also vegets directs funi dub while bulma directs bz dub
Abdullab
said at 11:01 AM on Fri May 19 2017
@Abdullab better than her work in evolution, we have our flops now and then
Unknownsage13
said at 3:58 PM on Tue May 16 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
Was hoping Kira Buckland and Cassandra Lee Morris would be in this. But maybe if this is successful, Nintendo will also remake 5 and 7 so I can hear them play Eirika and Julia in a full game.
Unknownsage13
said at 4:01 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@Unknownsage13 correction (curse this site for not having an edit button) I meant 5 and 8.
Rein
said at 6:48 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@Unknownsage13 FE 5 is actually Thracia 776. I think you meant FE 4
Soul-dragon
said at 12:01 PM on Wed May 17 2017
@Unknownsage13 They could always voice some NPC like Irma or Nuibaba.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:36 PM on Wed May 17 2017
@Soul-dragon

They couldn't, because they're not in the game. The game has a cast listing and they're not in it.
technickal
said at 8:37 AM on Tue May 16 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
Patrick Seitz, Kris Salter and now Wendee Lee. Can't say which one of them is my favorite FE director, but all of them seem determined to expand the series' horizons cast-wise.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:40 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@technickal @technickal All of them did an amazing job voice directing that's for certain. Here's what they did in general...
Patrick Setiz- Brought Fire Emblem back from the dead with an incredible dub filled with newbies (who I believe got a boost from it) like Matthew Mercer and Amanda Celine Miller with veterans like Michelle Ruff and Laura Bailey. The dub was incredible overall and the game itself had me spellbound.
Kris Salter- Brought in an amazing cast that gave the game a 'serious' atmosphere with newbies (who all got a bit of a boost as well) like Brianna Knickboker and Julianne Alexander and veterans like Elizabeth Daily. She also picked the PERFECT Azura. Rena Strober nailed the role, and is one of the many reasons I love Lost In Thoughts All Alone.
Wendee Lee- Did a perfect job on making the dub amazing with newbies and veterans alike. She was my first choice for the dub, and I'm thrilled that she got the job. I can't wait to get the game.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:15 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@Soul-dragon

Matt Mercer was far from a newbie by 2013. He'd been in VO for over 10 years at that point. He's been in stuff since at least 2001 and had plenty of lead roles.
Shaun Ince
said at 5:37 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ There first video game I heard him in was Ace Combat 5. Which I believe was his first video game roles.
Soul-dragon
said at 5:41 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ I guess... so just pretend I said only Amanda Celine Miller's name.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:44 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@Shaun Ince

Yeah, Matt's really early stuff was with Bang Zoom. IIRC some of the earliest things he did were additional voices in Akira and Street Fighter Alpha. Bang Zoom did Ace Combat 5 and that would've been one of his first game roles, I think it was one of Karen Strassman's first in LA too. Then he did a lot of stuff for New Generation Pictures... and my personal favourite non-VO thing, There Will Be Brawl. Also Thundercats! Main role in that. That was a thing that happened as short-lived as it was.
DisneyAnimefan1995
said at 7:18 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ Wasn't it Animaze/Magniturde 8 Post that dubbed Akira and Street Fighter Alpha?
KazeNinja17
said at 7:26 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ Even though a lot of people hate on the game, I remember first hearing Matt Mercer as Edge Maverick in Star Ocean: The Last Hope. I think Laura Bailey was also in that game as Reimi Saionji.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:31 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@DisneyAnimefan1995

Yyeess it was. Good catch. I got my brain messed up for a second. They're the ones who did Ace Combat 5 as well, now that it's all sorted out mentally.

@Soul-dragon

FWIW, now that I think about it I think this was one of the earlier things he did for Cup of Tea. There was Soulcalibur V and Dead or Alive 5 but I had to look those up to even refresh myself.

But yeah, Awakening and Fates had a lot of emphasis on mixing fresher talent in with the veterans, especially the latter. On the flipside, the cast here consists almost entirely of established people, and there's a lot less emphasis on double and triple casting compared to the other two. Also we're seeing Cup of Tea start to pull to Texas as they like to do every now and then. It'll be interesting to see how the cast of FE Switch looks down the line.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:38 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@KazeNinja17

Ha, that's one I was thinking of. Yeah, that was one of his first lead roles. Jonathan Klein assembled a great cast for that game, just... Only so much you can do with the material given. The good thing is when you start from there, there's nowhere to go but up, which is what happened.
KazeNinja17
said at 10:47 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ True. I still enjoyed The Last Hope more than the newest Star Ocean game.

Regardless of where they start, it's nice to see how some voice actors evolve over the years. I'm looking forward to seeing where Bonnie Gordon goes from here.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:18 AM on Tue May 16 2017
 6 Shout Outs!
I did not expect Caitlin Glass, Monica Rial or Ian Sinclair. Holy s*@%.
ScraftyIsTheBest
said at 3:17 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@Soul-dragon

Yeah, it's really great. Texas actors mixed into an LA dub (and game dubs in general). Really pleasantly surprised honestly. Wasn't expecting any Texas VAs here but they really surprised me with this. Can't wait to hear them soon.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:33 PM on Tue May 16 2017
@ScraftyIsTheBest

Ever since Tales of Xillia 2 Cup of Tea have liked to occasionally mix in Texas actors whenever the logistics work out. Though all the Texas people here have worked with them before - Chris Patton is the newest since he's also in Akiba's Beat, which I think might've been recorded first.
Unknownsage13
said at 10:46 AM on Wed May 17 2017
@NCZ so Tia Ballard and Brittany Karbowski confirmed for FE Switch? :D
ScraftyIsTheBest
said at 6:51 PM on Wed May 17 2017
@NCZ

Yeah, you're right actually, that is something I've noticed with Cup of Tea's more recent works. Like I remember Caitlin being in Xenoblade Chronicles X, and Monica Rial was in Berseria iirc. Though regardless, I'm quite pleased with their inclusion here in a Fire Emblem game, and it's always nice to see Fire Emblem casts expanding their horizons with their actors in different ways. As of late it's nice to start seeing more Texas peeps in game dubs and such so yeah.
SNaG
said at 4:21 PM on Thu May 18 2017
@NCZ

I just noticed Chris Patton here! Dear me, dis gonna be good.
HylianBelmont
said at 11:40 PM on Mon May 15 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
Awesome cast, Nintendo's Fire Emblem dubs just get more and more impressive haha. And it's lovely to see Monica Rial, Marc Diraison and Darin De Paul in this!
KazeNinja17
said at 9:49 PM on Mon May 15 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
Major, MAJOR kudos to Wendee Lee and everyone behind Fire Emblem Echoes' English dub. Top notch voice director, top notch cast, top notch dub. Definitely the best dub so far in the Fire Emblem series. Can't wait to see the likes of Doug Erholtz, Monica Rial, Caitlin Glass, and Bonnie Gordon in this game.

(Side note: Bonnie has come a long ways since I first saw her as a contestant on The Quest)
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:43 PM on Mon May 15 2017
 7 Shout Outs!
hen it comes to casting Nintendo seems determined to one-up itself with every Fire Emblem release.

Ray Chase(technically in Heroes, but still) Darin de Paul, Erica Lindbeck, Keith Silverstein, Marc ****in' Diraison! This cast is something else.
SNaG
said at 7:31 PM on Mon May 15 2017
 1 Shout Out!
More Darin de Paul? Sign me the heck up.
SNaG
said at 9:58 PM on Sat May 13 2017
 1 Shout Out!
I'll be pleasantly surprised if Laura Bailey is Palla here too. I'm hoping that's the case since I'm sure this game recorded before/concurrently with Heroes due to its purported amount of dialogue.
SNaG
said at 7:30 PM on Mon May 15 2017
@SNaG

Guess not. Huh.
HylianBelmont
said at 11:35 PM on Mon May 15 2017
@SNaG Apparently "Zeke" also sounds more like Seitz than Willingham, according to someone I follow on Twitter anyway.
HylianBelmont
said at 11:36 PM on Mon May 15 2017
@SNaG Wait, ignore my last comment. I said that before the pictures loaded on my end lol
KazeNinja17
said at 11:40 PM on Mon May 15 2017
@HylianBelmont I wonder if Willingham and Bailey were busy with other projects at the time of the recording of this game or if they were just unavailable in general. Makes you wonder when exactly they recorded the lines for this game in comparison to Heroes then.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:46 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@KazeNinja17 It may have happened a month or two before, I suppose.
SNaG
said at 8:34 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@HylianBelmont

Not that I don't think Patrick and Alexis don't do a good job - they probably will. It's just that I would like some semblance of continuity, and depending on the recording times it shouldn't have been too too hard to achieve that. I understand Palla was probably a result of "Hey, if you're already here (for Lucina) wanna read for someone else too?"

Whatever, got that off my chest. Good game will be good game and good voiceover will be good voiceover.
HylianBelmont
said at 10:15 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@SNaG Honestly I do agree with you there. Personally I wish they had just cast Alexis Tipton and Patrick Seitz in those roles to begin with. But alas...
KazeNinja17
said at 10:46 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@SNaG Laura Bailey is extremely busy and very much in-demand. It's honestly more of a miracle that they got her back as Lucina and even got her as Palla in Heroes.

Also, it should be noted that the game still isn't out for another three days, so there's a chance that Laura Bailey is still Palla, but was left uncredited like she was in Heroes. (Note: I haven't listened to any of the Palla dialogue in Echoes)

Regardless of the reasons, I'm sure the casting director(s) had their reasons for not bringing Bailey and Willingham back for this game. Whether it was due to schedules or creative decisions is unknown.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:05 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@KazeNinja17

Nah, it's Alexis. You can hear the lower/huskier sound of her voice and the rhythmic way she emphasizes certain syllables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIlUe5QyQYc&feature=youtu.be&t=59m15s

Here's Laura for reference:
http://picosong.com/MbdD/

Travis not being in this surprises me. I wonder what he's working on that conflicted with this. He does a lot of mocap himself so there's probably a role in something that hasn't been revealed yet...
KazeNinja17
said at 11:40 AM on Tue May 16 2017
@NCZ Fair point. I figured it was Alexis regardless and said that just as a possibility since Laura is known to go uncredited for games like this one.
Soul-dragon
said at 11:39 AM on Sat May 6 2017
Is Patrick Setiz voice directing this game like he did with heroes?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:31 PM on Sat May 6 2017
@Soul-dragon

It's a secret to everybody. But probably.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:32 PM on Sat May 6 2017
@NCZ I suppose there's the small chance it could be Wendee Lee as well, but it's more than likely Patrick Seitz yeah.
KazeNinja17
said at 3:35 PM on Fri May 12 2017
@HylianBelmont Based on a tweet from Erica Lindbeck, it sounds like Wendee Lee is the director of this game:
https://twitter.com/ericalindbeck/status/863124911228727296
HylianBelmont
said at 12:51 AM on Sat May 13 2017
@KazeNinja17 Lovely!
Soul-dragon
said at 12:34 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
This game isn't doing too well in Japan.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 1:31 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@Soul-dragon

Sales-wise? It opened to 130k, which isn't setting the world on fire the same extent as Awakening (260k) or Fates (350k), but it's comparable to the FE1 and 3 remakes on DS (150k). It was also the best-selling game that week. Plus it's important to keep in mind, this is a remake rather than the next true, mainline FE, along with being a late 3DS game released after the Switch launch. The original Gaiden has also been re-released on Virtual Console in Japan, so newer fans have had the opportunity to revisit it in the past already as well. It's international sales that will tell the bigger story.
KazeNinja17
said at 8:17 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@NCZ ^This. Plus, I feel that it's rather unfair to judge how well a game does during it's first few weeks. I understand that the first few weeks are crucial for games, but it always felt weird that a lot of focus seems to be on the first few weeks. Plus, a lot of people didn't expect SoV to even meet the sales of Awakening or Fates due to it being a remake of Gaiden, the most divisive game in the series for most people.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:03 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@KazeNinja17

Yeah, Gaiden has a bit of baggage since it's a known quantity. I'm sure Nintendo had their expectations in gear too. Not just regarding that, but developmentally speaking, this game would have been nowhere near the undertaking as Awakening or Fates, especially since the main FE team is presumably hard at work on next year's Switch installment. This is essentially just a bonus game to ride the FE wave and throw 3DS owners who haven't yet upgraded to the Switch one more bone.

As far as sales go though, I will say it is true that game sales tend to be pretty frontloaded, especially in Japan. Of course there are exceptions; Splatoon is one of the best examples lately. But the game does have odds against it that aren't quite in favour of super long legs, like that it came out after the Switch launch. Like I said, I don't think Nintendo were banking on it being an evergreen title, but more a gift to the dedicated. So all things considered, 130k for its first week in Japan is a solid and reasonable result.

International sales will likely pick up the slack since FE has blown up massively outside Japan, there's plenty of new fans hungry for a fix, and Echoes is essentially a brand new game to them.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:43 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@NCZ Agreed. For me, I've been a fan since FE7 and I've always wanted a chance to play the older games, but was never fond of emulators, so having a remake of Gaiden is quite a nice treat.

Plus, in one of the recent interviews, they said they might reconsider using "Echoes" again for more remakes, which seems to imply that SoV isn't quite intended to fall in line as a MAIN FE title, but the start of a new side-series of remakes.

Either way, I truly hope that SoV does well in the West because it would mean the potential for more remakes of older FE games under a potential "Echoes" side-series title.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:51 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@KazeNinja17

That's what I've been thinking. If the Echoes brand gives us a Genealogy + Thracia remake, and a Path of Radiance + Radiant Dawn HD remaster, I am completely down for that.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:43 AM on Mon May 1 2017
@NCZ Echoes will more than likely sell better in the West, I agree.

And I think some people are overreacting to the JP sales numbers as well, admittedly. I mean the series isn't going to "die" just because of this really.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:54 AM on Mon May 1 2017
@HylianBelmont

Are there people actually saying that? That's silly and totally divorced from the context of the game's existence.
Soul-dragon
said at 11:33 AM on Mon May 1 2017
@HylianBelmont Maybe. I just assumed because everyone on YouTube was freaking out about it and going crazy.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:58 AM on Mon May 1 2017
@Soul-dragon

Yeah, unfortunately the game community in general doesn't always tend to be the most rational, but Youtube especially has always had a pretty bad signal-to-noise ratio.
KazeNinja17
said at 12:33 PM on Mon May 1 2017
@NCZ I'd totally be down for a Fire Emblem: Binding Blade + Fire Emblem: Blazing Blade remake, but I feel like anything after Binding Blade might be a tad unlikely for the time being in comparison to Genealogy of the Holy War, Thracia 776, and Binding Blade due to those three being the remaining Japan-only games not to get remakes. (FE12 not included)

Also, in regards to YouTube freaking out over the Echoes: SoV sales, I feel like 99% of that is just because they want clicks and views. Plus, I feel like the leak of the Japanese version didn't help much since a lot of FE YouTubers I saw were playing that (and posting it) and now they're freaking out about it, which isn't necessary.

All we can do is wait and see how SoV does in the West and in the long-run.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:09 PM on Mon May 1 2017
@NCZ It's probably just a LOUD minority actually saying that I think. But yeah.
KazeNinja17
said at 7:11 PM on Mon May 1 2017
@HylianBelmont I know of at least one major FE YouTuber that was being really panicky about the "low" first week sales.

Doesn't matter what the sales figures look like, I still plan on enjoying the game and supporting Fire Emblem for the foreseeable future.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:26 PM on Mon May 1 2017
@KazeNinja17

"Also, in regards to YouTube freaking out over the Echoes: SoV sales, I feel like 99% of that is just because they want clicks and views."

Ha, almost feels like nothing more needs to be said. That's the problem with youtube in a nutshell, basically. Easy for things to spiral out of control on a free, view-driven platform with no real system, guidelines, or moderation.

Anyway, the GBA FE games still hold up really well so I almost feel like, as much as I love Sacred Stones, they aren't screaming to be remade to the same extent. But you're right, I think Nintendo would want to prioritize the games that didn't get as much attention first go around. I think even Heroes and Warriors are really helpful for that, making people more curious in prior FE games. It's a really exciting time for the series, absolutely.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:05 PM on Mon May 1 2017
@NCZ Exactly. And like you said, Heroes and Warriors are extremely helpful with getting the newer fans interested in the older games. I know a few people who originally weren't interested in going back to games before Awakening, but after Heroes came out, they now actually want to go back and play the older games. My one friend who is a major Persona fan (and who got me into Persona) is really interested in Echoes: SoV because it's different enough from what Awakening and Fates was (she still liked both).
HylianBelmont
said at 1:11 AM on Tue May 2 2017
@KazeNinja17 Definitely agree with your sentiment here!
SirJolteon
said at 12:43 PM on Thu Apr 20 2017
GameXplain has blessed us with a great sample of the voice acting in this game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q92ARbpFSIA

Sounds great!
Soul-dragon
said at 4:41 PM on Fri Apr 28 2017
@SirJolteon I wonder who Clive is. I heard Matthew Mercer (which is odd because I'm certain he's Kliff) but it could be someone else. Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing a newbie take the role.
MHUltimate2013DW
said at 7:16 PM on Fri Apr 28 2017
@Soul-dragon

HylianBelmont and I think it's Grant George.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:37 AM on Sat Apr 29 2017
@MHUltimate2013DW Well, I remember thinking he sounded like a combination of both Cam Clarke AND Grant George haha. But either would be pretty fitting IMO
Soul-dragon
said at 11:52 AM on Sat Apr 29 2017
@Soul-dragon I take back what I said about Mercer. He sounds nothing like either Kliff or Clive. Clive does sound an awful lot like Grant George though..
KazeNinja17
said at 9:53 PM on Sat Apr 29 2017
@Soul-dragon I'm thinking that Kliff might be Sean Chiplock. Either Kliff or Gray, but my friend thinks Gray sounded a bit like Max Mittleman. (It would be cool if Ray Chase was Clive, but I haven't heard enough of Clive's English voice to make more of a guess)
Soul-dragon
said at 4:33 AM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@KazeNinja17 Gray does sound a lot like Max now that you mention it. As for Mila's Servant I'm guessing it's Laura Post.
KazeNinja17
said at 9:35 AM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@Soul-dragon Sadly, I'm not too familiar with Laura's work. I'm still trying to figure out who voices Silque, though.
Soul-dragon
said at 10:32 AM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@KazeNinja17 It might be a newbie because I have no clue. Whoever voiced her did an amazing job. As for Laura Post she voiced Ragyo and Kill La Kill.
KazeNinja17
said at 8:19 PM on Sun Apr 30 2017
@Soul-dragon I'm all for newbies being included to SoV. Also, it might be worth mentioning that I did look up Laura Post's roles and even then I haven't seen or played anything she's been involved in. (To my knowledge at least)

Regardless, I'm excited to learn who the voices are because the English dub really does seem to be an excellent one.
Soul-dragon
said at 2:50 PM on Sat Apr 15 2017
I wonder if the rest of the cast will be leaked due to heroes?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:56 PM on Sat Apr 15 2017
@Soul-dragon

Technically, since Heroes is an official channel, it wouldn't be a leak. Anyway February had the initial 4-batch of Genealogy and Sacred Stones' protagonists, then a batch of assorted characters a couple weeks later. March had the 6 Blazing Blade characters and then the Spring event variants. Now they've added 4 characters from Alm's party in Echoes, so next will probably be a batch from Celica's party. Maybe they'll include a couple more in a May update but really you're not technically going to know the full dub cast of Echoes until it's out.
CJ Sims
said at 2:29 PM on Thu Apr 13 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
Just heard Alm's voice in his trailer for Fire Emblem Heroes, and it sounds PERFECT. (The others are great, too, but Alm's fits him SO well)
VaisuKaguya
said at 11:21 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
Wait, I only just now noticed Risa Taneda's in this and Heroes. Does that mean she's feeling better?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:27 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
@VaisuKaguya

Both were probably recorded before she took her leave.

One thing that always surprises me with Japanese games is how the VO is usually done long in advance. Not uncommon to be around a year before the actual game is released.
VaisuKaguya
said at 11:37 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
@NCZ
Hmm. Well games aside, she was in the Yuyushiki OVA which I don't imagine was recorded that long ago.

Bleh, still can't do anything but hope.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:59 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
@VaisuKaguya

Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah, with anime I figured VO was probably done pretty late since they actually do the animation first and then ADR it. But then I'm not sure how much time there is between that and the actual airdate, especially for an OVA. If I had to guess it probably was sometime last year but yeah, I hope she's all right.
SNaG
said at 6:14 AM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@NCZ

If Shirobako and Girlish Number are any indication (unimpeachable sources, I know), a lot of anime VO can be done as late as the week of or a week before the airdate since they can do ADR with as little as the storyboard. OVAs can be done whenever though, since Risa Taneda didn't reprise for the Shokugeki no Soma OVAs (presumably they were scheduled to be released with the BD's before she took a sick leave).

It still surprises me how much VO for a game is done in advance. Especially for something like this where the main dialogue will be in visual novel style cutscenes where lipsync isn't required.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:37 AM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@SNaG

Makes sense. I've never really looked to into it but I always figured anime was made on a pretty hectic schedule. So many cases of episodes having shoddy animation where the studio goes "we'll clean it up for the bluray", heh.

I guess for games, it might just be something to do with how development is done. Very roughly, a typical dev schedule will probably look like

1 - Pre-production (e.g. scripting, design document, planning)
2 - Production (programming, asset creation, voice recording, music recording)
3 - Implementation, debugging, polishing

FE lately has been running on about a 2-year dev cycle, so it's really steps 2 and 3 that take up most of that.

Nintendo tend to pride themselves on having polished, glitch-free games, so they especially tend to dedicate a lot of time to debugging, QA, and finishing touches. (Fun fact - if you see "Super Mario Club" credited in most of their games, that's the name of their debug crew.)

With heavily-voiced games, that actually is quite a lot of work to go over. Awakening and especially Fates have a lot more dialogue than people realize. Almost every character in Fates has around 100 voice clips at least. That's all stuff that needs to be gone over by the sound editing crew, then implemented in the game, and QA needs to ensure that everything sounds good and that each voice clip plays when it's supposed to. To ensure everything works perfectly, a lot of time is dedicated. Echoes is going to be the first in the series where every line of text is fully voiced though, and that's especially something I guess they wanted to make sure they had the time to get right.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 4:04 PM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@NCZ "So many cases of episodes having shoddy animation where the studio goes "we'll clean it up for the bluray", heh."

I've never thought about it, but reading your comment, it hit me that, in my ways, "cleaning it up for the Bluray" is anime's equivalent of patching & some of the recent practices with DLC.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:13 PM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed

It's the Andromeda approach.
SNaG
said at 10:11 PM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@NCZ

Actually, Nintendo is absolutely horrid at localization due to their shoddy treatment of Fates. I mean, look at their release, which is nothing short of garbage. They removed petting, called Belka "Beruka," and removed Hisame's defining trait of pickle adoration. It is an abomination and I abhor any implication that Nintendo devotes itself to polished games from the localization side.


(/s for good measure)
HylianBelmont
said at 10:42 PM on Tue Apr 11 2017
@SNaG Also look at the way they changed Soleil's supports in the Western version to not offend the SJWs...

Wow, can you say WORST localisation of all time? If only Fates was more like Awakening's localisation. They didn't change ANYTHING in that one:(
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:59 PM on Sat Apr 15 2017
You're right, silly me. I forgot Nintendo was secretly the devil of the game translation business.

Never forget how due to their tyrannical policies, the character "Waluigi", intended to be a pun on "ijiwaru", lost all meaning, instead becoming simply "Wa-Luigi". None of this would happen if they simply respected the original vision by translating his name literally as "Mean or contemptible person".
HylianBelmont
said at 2:02 AM on Sun Apr 16 2017
@NCZ Oh no... You mean to tell me that NOA have been destroying the creator's vision of the Mario Series too!?

I'm not supporting this company anymore.
PsychBoy19
said at 3:16 PM on Sun Apr 16 2017
@NCZ How in the hell did we go from wondering whether a voice actress recorded lines before her LOA to debating the merits of Nintendo's Localisation efforts? I'm sorry but it really looks like this thread went REALLY off topic quickly
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:57 AM on Mon Apr 17 2017
@PsychBoy19

We were taking the mickey. But yeah, it's done now.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:27 PM on Fri Apr 28 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed *in many ways*, I meant to say. Really wish we could edit for spelling on here.
larkchronicles
said at 10:27 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
As unlikely as it is, I really hope Laura Bailey reprises Palla for this game.
larkchronicles
said at 10:33 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
@larkchronicles *in this game
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:33 PM on Mon Apr 10 2017
@larkchronicles

It's not unthinkable depending on when they did the recording. If they did it around the same time as Heroes then there's no reason why not.
JDtheBA
said at 1:45 PM on Mon Apr 3 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Be wary, the japanese version of echoes leaked early, it may happen to the English version as well. I don't know if they have the cast list out yet.
Soul-dragon
said at 6:09 AM on Sat Mar 25 2017
When do you think Nintendo will reveal to voice cast (or the voice actors will be allowed to reveal there roles)? I mean, you can never tell.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:55 AM on Sat Mar 25 2017
@Soul-dragon

May 19
CJ Sims
said at 4:12 PM on Tue Mar 21 2017
 1 Shout Out!
If this game isn't a BIG mistake, it's probably going to be my favorite FE game.
Angiken
said at 7:35 PM on Thu Mar 23 2017
@CJ Sims If you liked Gaiden, you'll love this. If not -- well -- GG.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:35 AM on Mon Mar 20 2017
I actually really hope they got Walden James to play someone in this game personally (Like Leon!) because he gives an interesting sound to all of his roles I feel.
Soul-dragon
said at 4:40 AM on Mon Mar 20 2017
@HylianBelmont I was hoping for Kaji Tang for Leon but Walden James works as well. I just wish we knew who he was.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:43 AM on Mon Mar 20 2017
@Soul-dragon Same...
Unknownsage13
said at 4:45 PM on Sat Mar 18 2017
 1 Shout Out!
I like how, unlike Fates, there isn't this knee-jerk negative reaction to the voice acting this time.
Though it largely seems to be because almost everyone in the comments recognizes Cherami Leigh and universally love her!
LeDom
said at 1:37 PM on Wed Mar 15 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
From what I heard from the PAX footage, the voice acting in english sounds pretty fitting and well executed, good thing considering this game seems to have a whole lot more than Awakening and Fates.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:47 AM on Fri Mar 17 2017
@LeDom That's really great! Considering how much personality the VO for Awakening and Fates added to their respective characters, I'm definitely glad that there's a lot more this time around:)
NCZ (Admin)
said at 11:37 AM on Wed Mar 15 2017
 6 Shout Outs!
Someone at the casting team really likes Takehito Koyasu. (Not that I blame them.)
SNaG
said at 12:43 PM on Wed Mar 15 2017
@NCZ

To be fair, who *doesn't* love Takehito Koyasu?
LeDom
said at 5:53 AM on Thu Mar 16 2017
@SNaG Attempting to have a Fire Emblem game without Koyasu is USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS
ScottMyers
said at 8:02 AM on Wed Mar 15 2017
 1 Shout Out!
I watched the PAX footage, and while I don't recognize most of the voice actors, Boey (judging from his one line in the footage, lol) sounds a lot like Vic Mignogna. I hope it's true. The guy's been long overdue for an appearance in this franchise.
ScottMyers
said at 10:18 AM on Wed Mar 15 2017
@ScottMyers New footage came out, and his other lines sound nothing like Vic. I guess the resemblance was a coincidence. Ah well...
KazeNinja17
said at 10:28 PM on Mon Mar 13 2017
I feel like the primary reason that Echoes is going to be fully voiced is because it's relatively shorter (going off of the length of Gaiden) than Awakening and Fates were, so they can do more than just cut scenes and dialogue snippets of voice acting.
Soul-dragon
said at 3:32 PM on Tue Mar 7 2017
Why do i have the feeling Celica is going to be voiced by Sarah Blandy?
Shaun Ince
said at 4:58 PM on Tue Feb 14 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
There are a lot of Fire Emblem games being made right now. It's pretty ridiculous.
Shaun Ince
said at 5:01 PM on Tue Feb 14 2017
Don't take this as a bad thing. I'm just surprised at how many games have come out recently. It seems to be taking off very quickly these past few years.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:19 PM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@Shaun Ince

Awakening revitalized the series in Japan and allowed it to truly break out worldwide, and they've basically been striking the iron while it's hot.

Honestly though in terms of quantity it's basically not far from how things were in the 2000s. FE was practically an annual series back then. In terms of visibility though, the difference is staggering.

It is pretty surreal how far the games have come. If someone told me when Melee and Brawl came out that in the next decade Fire Emblem would be a bigger series than Metroid, Star Fox, or F-Zero, I'd have laughed them off.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:45 AM on Wed Feb 15 2017
@NCZ Honestly I doubt most high-school age & younger folks even recognize what F-Zero is, at this point. Star Fox isn't nearly as big as the GCN/early DS days either. Although, in the context of Smash Bros, seeing a very anime-esque design amongst the Nintendo roster (Ninty being specificly known for making more "Western-friendly" designs) was pretty intriguing as a young anime fan. That might've been a factor.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:30 AM on Wed Feb 15 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed

Star Fox lost its way when they started outsourcing it to other devs and making questionable decisions regarding specific games. Metroid had the cult following and acclaim but the devs involved moved on to other franchises. F-Zero GX was just a hard act to follow. Fire Emblem for better or for worse managed to adapt itself in a way that expanded its pre-existing cult following.
SNaG
said at 10:23 AM on Wed Feb 15 2017
@NCZ

In some ways, the remake of Gaiden will be a good test to see how IS can meld classic elements and some of their newer elements together. It's sure to be a fun FE game, I just hope that it achieves a good balance that has broad appeal like Fates and Awakening did.

It's a dang shame we haven't had a Metroid game for nearly a decade.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:50 AM on Wed Feb 15 2017
@SNaG

Gaiden is a weird choice. Not saying that in an especially good or bad way, but it has the same thing that a lot of NES sequels from that era had, where they weren't quite sure of what the series was yet so they took some risks that paid off to varying degrees going forth. So it'll be interesting to see how it does as a remake from a modern perspective.

Hopefully though the game should be decently successful now that the series has some momentum. This and New Mystery of the Emblem suggest they learned their lesson from Shadow Dragon DS, which was way too literal a remake. I'm pretty confident there'll be at least one more remake in this mold... Who knows if it'll be on 3DS though.

But yeah, no kidding. Metroid Prime 3 turns 10 this year. So staggering to think about it like that. The series has been dormant ever since.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:16 PM on Wed Feb 15 2017
@NCZ Agreed. If it's more like "New Mystery" than "Shadow Dragon" then I'll be really happy (I didn't hate Shadow Dragon mind you but yeah)

I'm just curious as to how they'll expand the story though. Gaiden's plot was actually a pretty big thing for it's time. And Mila and Duma added an interesting dynamic to the game.
Unknownsage13
said at 6:29 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@NCZ Yeah I feel like it'll be a while before we see another Metroid or Star Fox. Nintendo is probably looking at the poor reception of Federation Forces and Zero and instead of thinking "How can we improve the franchises?" they're thinking "I guess people don't want these franchises"
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:53 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@Unknownsage13

Metroid is 50/50. Part of the problem is that the series's main producer, Sakamoto, just isn't interested in working on the games anymore and prefers smaller, more experimental projects like Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Life. And then Retro, the people behind Metroid Prime, have had their hands full with the Donkey Kong games. They do have something for Switch in the works but it's totally up in the air as to if it's Metroid or something else entirely.

I feel like on some level Nintendo are aware of the demand for Metroid and they've taken chances on cult series like Xenoblade, but part of the problem might also be that for the past while the series has been most successful outside Japan so there might be a level of bias there.

Star Fox, yeah, I dunno. Zero was such a missed opportunity. It could've been so good if they focused on making a straight-to-the-point, pure action game, and especially if they let Platinum have a greater level of creative control. The problem is that the experiments and gimmicks were okay in theory, but at the end of the day they bogged the game down and just made it feel too clunky for its own good. And they had a right idea in doing a reboot to get rid of all the baggage that Dinosaur Planet's shoehorning into the series added to the continuity, but I still feel mixed about just how closely those elements stuck to 64's blueprint. I couldn't finish the game because I just wasn't really having much fun with it. Felt like they went too far trying to reinvent the wheel where they shouldn't have, and didn't take enough risks where it was more warranted. What a shame.
SNaG
said at 12:31 PM on Fri Feb 17 2017
@Unknownsage13

Federation Force sold poorly because it's not real Metroid, therefore, people aren't interested in Metroid and Nintendo won't make another real one. QED
Unknownsage13
said at 8:55 PM on Fri Feb 17 2017
@SNaG it sucks how it works. We're basically in lose-lose situations.
Developers make a new game in a franchise but it's not what fans want.
If we buy it, we'll just get more of those
If we don't buy it, they'll assume nobody is interested in the franchise.
SNaG
said at 1:00 PM on Sat Feb 25 2017
@Unknownsage13

Basically. I was being facetious but I wouldn't doubt that it's close to the logic.

It's almost like FE and Metroid switched places - FE is more mainstream and Metroid is more niche (in Nintendo's eyes).
KazeNinja17
said at 10:17 PM on Mon Mar 13 2017
@SNaG I remember following Awakening news extremely closely since FE12 didn't get localized and there was a lot of uncertainty of Awakening getting localized.
SNaG
said at 10:47 PM on Mon Mar 13 2017
@KazeNinja17

History time! Awakening was actually intended to be the last entry of the series due to poor sales of Shadow Dragon and lack of interest in localizing New Mystery of the Emblem. It ended up being localized in the end kind of last minute but Intelligent Systems just loaded it with a bunch of systems and linked it back to Archanea to make it their final title.

Luckily for them and for us, Awakening was critically acclaimed for a number of reasons, such as Fire Emblem's general compatibility with handheld devices, the quality of the game itself that made it open to newcomers and fun for veterans, and the 3DS's heavily increasing popularity after the price drop.

It sold quite well and now we live in a universe where Fire Emblem can get solid support from Nintendo.
KazeNinja17
said at 3:12 PM on Tue Mar 14 2017
@SNaG Believe me, I'm well aware of Fire Emblem's potential end when it came to Awakening. I'm very grateful that we got Awakening and that it has allowed for more Fire Emblem games to be made and localized. It's still weird to consider Fire Emblem as one of Nintendo's major IPs when before Awakening, most people only knew about it because of Marth, Roy, and Ike in Smash.
Beldarius
said at 3:23 PM on Tue Feb 14 2017
I'm kind of hoping the game is localized with dual audio. I want to hear both the English and Japanese versions. XD
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:51 PM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@Beldarius

It was just confirmed today that it won't be, unfortunately.
Unknownsage13
said at 6:25 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@NCZ They hire another big star for the Japanese version?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:45 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@Unknownsage13

Apparently, unlike Awakening and Fates which voiced mainly snippets, My Room interactions, and key scenes, every single line of the game will be voiced. So it's probably space limits on the cartridge.
Unknownsage13
said at 7:20 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@NCZ I have literally no problem with this. This in fact was one of my complaints with previous entries. I disliked how in Awakening and Fates they got these incredible actors and then they only got to record little snippets of dialogue.

Wonder if this also means all the actors will just play one character. As great as many of them are, I feel if they played two fully voiced characters it would be harder to keep them different. Unless they just keep all the characters very one-dimensional.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:33 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@Unknownsage13

Yeah, that's a valid concern.

Fates and Heroes had massive casts of characters, and they stretched their cast members a lot by multicasting extensively. As staggering it was as a showcase of their talents, I wouldn't mind giving some of those actors a rest in order to shake things up a bit. It's why I'm hoping they bring back Kris Zimmerman for this one. Nothing against Patrick Seitz at all and he did a stellar job with Heroes' casting so this isn't a knock on him of course, but I feel like it makes sense to get her since we know she can bring in actors that most non-union projects couldn't get ahold of, so it'd lead to plenty of casting choices that are unique not just for FE, but for dubs in general. Heck, I almost feel like the idea of alternating between them from game to game has been working pretty well so far.

I get partly worried sometimes that they might be reaching the depths of the talent pool, but then there's still plenty of VAs both well-known and obscure who haven't got a crack at the series. I could see, say, Robbie Daymond getting cast as Alm for example.

At the same time though, it would be nice to bring back some of the actors who didn't get as much to do. Across both games Rena Strober surprisingly only got one role to her name.
Unknownsage13
said at 8:27 PM on Thu Feb 16 2017
@NCZ Yeah there's still plenty of actors that have yet to appear in a mainline (by mainline I mean not Heroes). So like Cherami Leigh, Michael Sinterniklaas, Kira Buckland, etc could be in this. And then also a lot of other actors have yet to even make their mark.

Something that someone else here proposed was the idea of a Fire Emblem or two that outsourced to Texas. There's a TON of voice actors there. Not just the regulars for Funi and Sentai but also the big chunk of recurring or one off actors. Like granted. There are those Texas VAs that will travel to LA for some projects (Ian Sinclair, Caitlin Glass, Alexis Tipton, etc) but there's a ton that don't. I think the studio that Sabat has would work. As long as he doesn't pull a Xenoverse 2 and cast himself in a bunch of the roles.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:56 AM on Fri Feb 17 2017
@NCZ Exactly! Although I'm really hoping that the negative reaction to Fates's english dub (by a vocal minority) didn't stop them with going with Kris Zimmerman for any of the future FE titles.

This might sound like a silly thought, but hopefully you get where I'm coming from.
King Marth 64
said at 1:53 PM on Sat Feb 18 2017
@NCZ I totally think it's possible that Awakening did had problems and have a glitch in the Dual Audio such as if the player that selects Japanese audio and plays a new file that doesn't work and the female Einherjars that have Robin's Voice #3 that never used in the original Japanese version and plus, the Einherjar only spoke in her human form since her Manakete form is still silent. And I did seen some PAL players from Serenesforest fixed that issue.
King Marth 64
said at 4:02 PM on Sat Feb 18 2017
@King Marth 64 the Einherjar Tiki only spoke in her human form since her Manakete form is still silent. (I could have sworn that I thought that I added Tiki in the previous post?)
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 2:53 PM on Sun Feb 19 2017
@HylianBelmont The negative reaction had nothing to do with the acting, & everything to do with that it was a dub-only release (when Awakening had original audio option), & then the dub script changes. Nintendo (like everyone else) knows Kris Zimmerman can do a great job, she has AAA reputation & it's not like they're going to ignore or fire her just because of their own personal edits.
HylianBelmont
said at 3:15 PM on Sun Feb 19 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed Awakening had just as many "changes" if not more (like Henry's character for example) but no one ever seems to generalise that whole production as "terrible"

Also. If you're complaining about name changes. Then guess what? That's happened in every FE. Not just Fates.
Webmike1
said at 4:32 PM on Sun Feb 19 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed Actually I would argue from what I have seen, that a many were displeased with the voice acting that was heard . I still firmly remember when people were taking negative reaction to the first few lines we've heard from Felicia and even Azura. With the latter having to talk to Matthew Mercer on how to deal with it.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:46 PM on Sun Feb 19 2017
A lot of the criticism of Fates' localization was basically just a cover for some people being mad that they took out the face-touching minigame. And then lashing out at various other aspects of it to further "justify" their frustration or persuade other people to buy into the melodrama. It was a bunch of overblown bullhonkey that turned far uglier than it had any right to be for no real reason.

The only beef I have is that a few of the name changes seemed unnecessary to me (e.g. Japanese names like "Suzukaze" or "Tsubaki" getting shortened or simplified - granted there could have been a character limit being taken into account. "Harold" --> "Arthur" I never got though) but that's really not the end of the world at the end of the day. Most of the changes were either fine because they were preserving a reference while adapting it cross-culturally or had some other logic behind them. Likewise the dual audio thing bums me out because I like having the option but space issues on a tiny cartridge and potential license issues with Renka are about as valid reasons as you can get. Nintendo's track record with dual audio is generally pretty good. In recent times it's almost always been space issues that forces it to be left on the table.

One thing to give them credit for is that they did work around that on one occasion. Xenoblade Chronicles was a single-layer disc in Japan and a dual-layer disc for NA and PAL copies. The extra layer was specifically to accommodate its dual audio option.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:22 AM on Mon Feb 20 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed Just figured I'd apologise for coming across as angry in my first reply. But yeah the space issues that stopped Fates from having dual audio was a bit of a shame. However the dub itself was fine IMO, so I didn't really mind it too much at the end of day. And I'm sure Shadows of Valentia will be great as well!
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 11:16 AM on Mon Feb 20 2017
@HylianBelmont Oh yeah, I wanted to apologize for sounding so antagonistic, I know this is an issue I've brought up repeatedly. It mostly bugs me in context of people that will whine about anything official or additional to something they've already seen (read: dubs), but totally overlook mistranslations they've become accustomed to them. (That's such a strange & counter-intuitive "distinction" to make.)

...& beyond that, while a lot of us make a point to understand why & how certain companies work the way they do, & it's not immediately in bad faith somehow...I mean, at the end of the day, I really would like a good translation. I don't knock the work of localizers, but of course, I really would like to hear the work of the writers, w/the least dissolution of the message possible.

Aniplex, Bandai/Geneon (RIP), & Viz dubs make a point of that, & you'll always hear me singing their praises. I wish other, more prominent members of the audience, would do so as well. & yeah, props to Nintendo for that Xenoblade Chronicles fix. I did not know that.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:15 PM on Fri Mar 3 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed

I mean, by definition, a translation from another language is never, ever going to be completely faithful to the original writing. If having the absolute most authentic experience possible is that important then the only way to do that is to actually consume something in its original language.

The point is though, a good translation conveys intent and meaning, rather than getting wrapped up in syntax. As long as that happens and the reader receives an understanding of the original message that makes sense to them, then its job is done.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:30 PM on Fri Mar 3 2017
@NCZ It's not the end of the world for me if dialog is "conversationally" translated while maintaining the spirit of the thing, but *as you said*, the sentence structure, puns, thoughts as the writer wrote them, are literally part of the story. A good translation makes the closest thing without leaving that effort barrier of having to learn a language. TNs *motivate* people to learn other languages & cultures, they do a better job of bridging the gap.

* No serious subtitle track of a foreign film has memes & uncalled-for jokes involved. That is because the people behind it care about the preservation of the script's art.

I suppose theoretically the ideal is to have the original dialogue be spoken aloud, with Steve Simmons-esque subtitles (& translators' notes) explaining what's going on...incidentally, this is "the conversation" for anime nowadays. As tough a pill to swallow as this is, however, I still feel Nintendo really pushes things more than companies should. As great as it is we can appreciate the visual arts, I do think the game industry could use more people expressing pride in the verbal skill & prose of the artists of smaller cultures.

"Videogames’ journey toward being taken seriously must include, at some point, a shift toward preserving their original cultural presentation."

https://www.wired.com/2009/05/final-fantasy-xiii/ (Condescending & misses the point about the anime conversation at times, but makes a valid point on Nintendo's cultural erasure.)
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:44 PM on Fri Mar 3 2017
@NCZ btw, the argument of "translation is never totally faithful, so *x* "creative liberty" is okay" I have heard (in varying extents, certainly not saying yours is the same thing) used to justify le Bruce Faulconer music. Obviously, you want to get *as close* an experience as *possible*.
HylianBelmont
said at 9:41 PM on Fri Mar 3 2017
@NCZ THIS. And while Awakening and Fates may have a few flaws. But overall? I think they're great examples of what you mentioned about "conveying intent and meaning"

TBH. I think the FE games in general that have been localised have good translation work.
Unknownsage13
said at 12:39 PM on Tue Mar 14 2017
@NCZ One thing in particular I'd like to point out. Arguably some of the changes gave certain characters more personality. Like I saw this comparison where a literal Japanese translation just had a character stressed about the dark they were walking through. English version had it where she was way more expressive like "super dooper scary". In a way it makes me think of the voice compare for Naruto's Shino. The comments seem to be in agreement "Sam did a better job replicating the Japanese voice. But Derek's voice is just more interesting." I honestly think the same thing is happening here with localization. They are trying to make the characters feel more unique to an extent.
Beldarius
said at 9:01 PM on Fri Jun 2 2017
@NCZ I'm not all that bummed about the missing dual audio anymore. I just LOVE the English voices, and Fernand and Berkut in particular are amazing. Who woulda thought Ian Sinclair could sound that psychotic.
Soul-dragon
said at 9:15 AM on Sat Feb 11 2017
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For some reason I really want to see either Christina Vee or Erica Lineback voice Celica. As for Alm I hoping for Steve Satley or Grant George.
Unknownsage13
said at 2:15 AM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@Soul-dragon i'd be cool with that! Though also I could see some of the actors that joined the series in Heroes being part of this. Like possibly having Michael Sinterniklaas and Cherami Leigh play the leads.
HylianBelmont
said at 3:52 AM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@Unknownsage13 Michael Sinterniklaas would be equally as fitting I'd say!
Unknownsage13
said at 8:31 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
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Did they get a new character designer? The art style seems different from Awakening and Fates. Like almost more of an older vibe.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 9:01 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@Unknownsage13

Hidari is the artist for this game. Awakening and Fates' designs and artwork were by Yusuke Kozaki.
King Marth 64
said at 3:10 PM on Mon Feb 13 2017
@Unknownsage13 I totally think Yukuse Kozaki probably got busy working the art for Heroes and possibly doing artwork for the upcoming TBA title for the Switch.
Unknownsage13
said at 2:06 AM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@King Marth 64 ah that could be it. I was just gonna guess Nintendo switched artists due to all the complaints about Yusuke's work being too moe. (Though maybe it's not actually too big a deal and it's more just the Fire Emblem subreddit making it appear like it is)
HylianBelmont
said at 6:33 AM on Tue Feb 14 2017
@Unknownsage13 Kozaki's art style is actually one of my favourite art styles for the series tbh.
KazeNinja17
said at 10:22 PM on Mon Mar 13 2017
@Unknownsage13 I feel like they brought in Hidari to do the artwork for Echoes because they wanted to evoke the older FE styles and differentiate it from Awakening, Fates, and Heroes because it's a remake and not a new original story.
DravenRoth994
said at 3:08 AM on Fri Jan 20 2017
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Nice to see Fire Emblem getting some love. Awakening and Fates really did the franchise favors. It also gives us the chance to play games that never came over here.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:40 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@DravenRoth994

What I'm hoping for is that "Echoes" becomes a subseries for remakes and remasters of older games. On top of that 9/10 remaster I still want, hopefully they go back and redo 4 and 5 as well. Give us that and (longshot) a late localization of the 3 remake and then we're golden.
Unknownsage13
said at 1:52 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@NCZ Agreed on the 4 and 5 remake (ideally i'd like them to just be one big game). That way we can have children without it falling into the trap of Fates where it felt out of place and shoehorned.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:10 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@Unknownsage13

One big game is what I was thinking, actually. That would be a lot smoother all-around.
Scrappy-Fan92
said at 12:03 PM on Thu Jan 19 2017
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I'm liking that quick localization turnaround. Fire Emblem has come far.
Fulgore2005
said at 1:01 PM on Thu Jan 19 2017
@Scrappy-Fan92 I'd argue that Awakening and Fates have certainly put Fire Emblem on the market, and the franchise deserves it IMO.
Unknownsage13
said at 1:53 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@Scrappy-Fan92 agreed! I was really surprised when i saw Amazon had it listed for May. Totally thought that would just be Japan's release date.
SNaG
said at 7:34 AM on Thu Jan 19 2017
I am so dang psyched for this, didn't even know I wanted it. Maybe we'll get remakes of 4 and 6 too!
LeDom
said at 7:06 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
I'm seriously surprised they remade this one of all things. Arguably the least popular of the series (thought it any game was gonna get the remake treatment, it'd be FE4).

It coming so soon kinda makes me worried it won't be dubbed in english though.
King Marth 64
said at 7:14 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
@LeDom I'm pretty sure they might have already dub it, this game was just announced today. I'm pretty sure we'll see more trailers and footages.
BlueHeracross
said at 6:23 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
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Well a remake is one way to make me care about this game, and it's coming out so soon too! Hopefully the Jugdral games see remakes next, maybe the GBA entries too!
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:48 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
@BlueHeracross

I'd even settle for translated ROM dumps. I've always wanted to play the SNES Fire Emblem games and it always kind of bums me out that Nintendo seem to ignore them.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 5:40 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
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Hey Nintendo, if you're going back and remaking old FE games, this means we can get a Path of Radiance + Radiant Dawn HD remaster, right?


........please...?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:48 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
@NCZ I really would like the opportunity to give RD another chance. I recently found out the localization team screwed up the difficulty options by naming the normal mode easy and the hard mode normal. That would explain why it felt like such a meatgrinder to me.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:02 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
@Nightmare Crusher

Holy cow, that is crazy. Wow, that's the kind of realization that's a big game changer. Literally and metaphorically. What I like about all the Zelda remasters is they contain a lot of QOL improvements, along with new options when it comes to difficulty, so hopefully an FE remaster would be able to work out stuff like that to create a definitive edition.
SNaG
said at 7:39 AM on Thu Jan 19 2017
@NCZ I also think a skip mode would be helpful as a QoL improvement, especially for PoR where enemy turns took FOREVER. I replayed them recently while I was waiting for Revelations and it felt like I was wasting so much time.

But the number one thing I would like is unlimited support conversations, the Radiant Dawn supports (if you can call them that) were awful.
Unknownsage13
said at 2:53 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@NCZ radiant Dawn seemed like something that could'be been incredible but it suffered from gameplay choices that just didn't sit well with me. I preferred Path of Radiance.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 3:18 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@Unknownsage13

I never played either (and probably never will without a remaster because HOLY CRAP THOSE SECONDHAND PRICES) but that's interesting to hear. I always hear people rank both games really highly but there always seem to be those small things that make different people prefer one over the other.

@SNaG

What's funny is IntSys ran into the problem with slow enemy turns again with Codename Steam. They had to release a patch to speed them up. Hopefully they learn from that if they ever redo them.

Was the support convo thing something else that was gutted in localization or was it always like that? I think I remember hearing something about parts of the script getting cut but I might be wrong.
SNaG
said at 10:36 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@NCZ

Judging by the most recent FE games, IntSys knows that skipping turns is nigh mandatory. I often multitasked during enemy turns in the Tellius series on my re-playthrough because it was so frigging slow. In PoR you could only turn off the battle animation but not an on-field animation, which was a little model performing a mini-action (rather than a sprite running into another sprite), so it took some time. Radiant Dawn enabled you to turn that off too, but there were an obscene amount of units in most chapters, so the issue wasn't alleviated.

AFAIK, the support conversation gutting was present in all versions of the game. As for why, it was probably either (a) not wanting to write supports for all of those characters or (b) not enough room/time to do so (though that's speculation). They're pretty bad, it's just limited to having small talk with someone on a map.

(As a side note, those secondhand prices are unseemly. Yikes.)
Fulgore2005
said at 5:23 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
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Looking forward to this.

Already knowing that the game will be voiced, I wonder if they will throw in support dialogue like they did for Awakening and Fates.
SNaG
said at 7:39 AM on Thu Jan 19 2017
@Fulgore2005 At the very least it could be like 11 and 12 where there was some form of support conversations so your units felt more human.
HylianBelmont
said at 3:47 AM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@SNaG FE12 had support conversations with certain characters which helped flesh out the characters more than they were in the original games yeah. Hell, it was one of the few times I actually liked Kris in the game even.
Unknownsage13
said at 8:29 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@SNaG One of my biggest issues with the last couple games support conversations is that they don't feel unique between the characters. Like I feel every character goes through the same progression in supports.
SNaG
said at 10:38 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@Unknownsage13

I feel Fates did that more than Awakening, though I see your point. Personally, I feel the problem is that the characters can be kinda trope-y, meaning that any development I've seen has been done before.

But hey, as long as it's not like Radiant Dawn, and I get unlimited conversations, I'll be happy. Trope-y or not, the army feels alive with supports.
Unknownsage13
said at 5:02 PM on Sat Jan 21 2017
@SNaG I think the issue with Fates was the fact most of your gen 1 characters are royal family members or their guards. It causes for there to not be as much variety in origins and thus impacting the conversations between characters.
HylianBelmont
said at 5:20 PM on Sat Jan 21 2017
@Unknownsage13 It's funny. But I actually found Corrin's support conversations with the child characters more interesting than their ones with a fair amount of the gen 1 characters. Although I did enjoy Corrin's supports with Leo and Xander as well though.
HylianBelmont
said at 5:18 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
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Gaiden was most certainly an interesting title in FE series. So I'm definitely looking forward to this remake!
HylianBelmont
said at 5:22 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
*in the
Soul-dragon
said at 5:01 PM on Wed Jan 18 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
Yes! A new fire emblem game! I wonder whose going to be the voice director. Hopefully either Kris Zimmerman or Wendee Lee!
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