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TheVengeanceKnight said at 9:14 PM on Fri May 3 2013
So this piece of schlock is getting a third season.
There is no justice in this world.
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There is no justice in this world.
Nightmare Crusher said at 7:47 PM on Thu May 9 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight And so this has now surpassed Spectacular's episode count. What is it they say about how only the good die young?
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SmartyBoyboy said at 10:48 AM on Sat May 11 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight I have no reason to be on this planet anymore.
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Nightmare Crusher said at 12:31 PM on Sun Apr 21 2013
I think I can sum up one of the biggest problems with this show in one scene from the Electro episode. SO Spider-Man and co are in a cable car or something that crashes into a building right before a commercial break. After the break we see the group in streets and they're perfectly fine. Then Spider-Man rewinds the show so that you can see how they got out of the cable car. That is garbage story telling.
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TheVengeanceKnight said at 2:43 AM on Wed Apr 24 2013
@Nightmare Crusher
Copied from a post I saw online:
"The 4th episode of "ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN", called "VENOM", literally features a monster which arose from a toilet which nobody wants to go near. I cannot think of a better metaphor for this show if I tried."
ReplyCopied from a post I saw online:
"The 4th episode of "ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN", called "VENOM", literally features a monster which arose from a toilet which nobody wants to go near. I cannot think of a better metaphor for this show if I tried."
Madness Abe said at 10:52 PM on Mon Mar 25 2013
I'm very disappointed that this is being headed by Jeph Loeb. You made the Long Halloween and Dark Victory, two of the best Batman comics! How did you manage to ruin this series?
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CatsTuxedo said at 1:59 PM on Tue Mar 26 2013
@Madness Abe I'm no expert on the comics industry, but from what I know, he was an at-least-alright writer until his son died of cancer and he tried stepping out of the comic business in his grief. It was after Joe Quesada convinced him to come back that his work started getting bad, so my best guess is his heart just isn't in it like it was before.
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 8:06 AM on Fri Mar 29 2013
@Madness Abe
CatsTuxedo pretty much summed it up. Because of that, I used to feel bad for Loeb and blame Quesada for everything wrong with USM, but after the Avengers EMH Spidey dubbing incident, I lost all of my sympathy for Loeb.
ReplyCatsTuxedo pretty much summed it up. Because of that, I used to feel bad for Loeb and blame Quesada for everything wrong with USM, but after the Avengers EMH Spidey dubbing incident, I lost all of my sympathy for Loeb.
CatsTuxedo said at 2:04 PM on Fri Mar 29 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight While I don't know a whole lot about the incident of which you speak or the professional decisions that went behind it, I have to say that reaction seems a bit petty. If you ask me, Quesada is still in the wrong for keeping Loeb in the game when he's clearly not as emotionally fit for the environment as he once was.
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 3:12 AM on Tue Apr 2 2013
@CatsTuxedo I never said Quesada wasn't in the wrong.
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coolgeek176 said at 9:34 PM on Mon Mar 11 2013
Other than Nova, Sandman, Hawkeye, and Sabertooth I think the voice acting on this show is alright. The actual show in my opinion is not very good. I still think Spider-man shouldn't be with a team of teenage heroes.
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Music Meister said at 10:19 PM on Tue Feb 5 2013
I think the major problem this show suffers from is it doesn't know whatkind of show it wants to be.
At times it seems like it wants to be a silly, over the top super cartoony like Super Hero Squad Show wth forth wall breaking.
On the other hand, it seems like it wants to take Spiderman characters (and other marvel characters) in a new light and mix the oringal with Ultimate or the writers own idea and tell a dramtic or at least serious story with a few corney jokes thrown in.
These are two very conflicting genres and thus really make both types of moments feel out of place. The cartoony moments ruin the feel of serious moments and the dramtic moments feel out of place during silly scenes or jokes.
I do enjoy this show, I wouldn't put this in my top ten as it is now, it has potential and at least you can say their trying, what they try is stupid and sometimes annoying but they're putting effort into it. This show is compared to Alien Force but I'd say this is till better only due to I feel there is still effort put into it and the fact it's not a direct sequel like AF.
My suggestions for the show would be to drop the sillyness, or at least the forth wall breaking. I can deal with the 'chibi' scenes even if they get too silly. I think those moments are suppose to be like what JD does in Scrub but here they aren't handled as well.
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At times it seems like it wants to be a silly, over the top super cartoony like Super Hero Squad Show wth forth wall breaking.
On the other hand, it seems like it wants to take Spiderman characters (and other marvel characters) in a new light and mix the oringal with Ultimate or the writers own idea and tell a dramtic or at least serious story with a few corney jokes thrown in.
These are two very conflicting genres and thus really make both types of moments feel out of place. The cartoony moments ruin the feel of serious moments and the dramtic moments feel out of place during silly scenes or jokes.
I do enjoy this show, I wouldn't put this in my top ten as it is now, it has potential and at least you can say their trying, what they try is stupid and sometimes annoying but they're putting effort into it. This show is compared to Alien Force but I'd say this is till better only due to I feel there is still effort put into it and the fact it's not a direct sequel like AF.
My suggestions for the show would be to drop the sillyness, or at least the forth wall breaking. I can deal with the 'chibi' scenes even if they get too silly. I think those moments are suppose to be like what JD does in Scrub but here they aren't handled as well.
CatsTuxedo said at 11:25 PM on Tue Feb 5 2013
@Music Meister Who says that a series can't be both silly and over-the-top AND dramatic and serious at the same time? One Piece, Avatar and Adventure Time are but a few properties I can think of that pull that off just fine (of course, having flexible and dynamic art styles helps, too). I can only assume this isn't one of those series, the point is that balance isn't as impossible to accomplish as you might think.
While I have no opinion of the show myself due to having no plans on seeing it, I will say that that's probably the sanest, most level-headed critique of the show I've read yet, even if I can't fully agree on the proposed solution; mainly I'm just tired of fanboys wanting everything all serious all the time.
ReplyWhile I have no opinion of the show myself due to having no plans on seeing it, I will say that that's probably the sanest, most level-headed critique of the show I've read yet, even if I can't fully agree on the proposed solution; mainly I'm just tired of fanboys wanting everything all serious all the time.
Music Meister said at 11:56 PM on Tue Feb 5 2013
@CatsTuxedo I'm not saying it shouldn't or can't be silly or over the top, it's Spiderman so of course it cant be all serious and dark. The problem comes from how over the top it is, at times making it seem like a parody instead of being silly. Spiderman directly breaking the forth wall by literally pausing the episode and looking at the audience feels out if place especially in more serious moments. It comes off as TOO silly and over the top compared to other episodes that have some really serious moments.
It's like in Avengers movie if Cap took out a remote and paused the movie then looked at the audience and said, "The plot is thickening" or something. It just feels out of place.
ReplyIt's like in Avengers movie if Cap took out a remote and paused the movie then looked at the audience and said, "The plot is thickening" or something. It just feels out of place.
TheVengeanceKnight said at 1:11 AM on Wed Feb 6 2013
@CatsTuxedo
I want serious storytelling.
*prepares to be attacked/trolled/flamed/whatever*
ReplyI want serious storytelling.
*prepares to be attacked/trolled/flamed/whatever*
Foxwolf (Admin) said at 4:30 PM on Wed Feb 6 2013
@CatsTuxedo I wouldn't refer to moments in Avatar as over-the-top. Sure there were many lighthearted moments of comedy, but it never overtook the overall tone of the show.
It's fine that you have a generalized opinion of why shows can be serious and silly, but you should really watch a couple of Ultimate Spider-Man's episodes before you say things like "I'm just tired of fanboys wanting everything all serious all the time." At the very least in respect to this show.
I've been a huge Spider-Man fan since the 90's series and I watched a few eps of this and it was not my cup of tea.
ReplyIt's fine that you have a generalized opinion of why shows can be serious and silly, but you should really watch a couple of Ultimate Spider-Man's episodes before you say things like "I'm just tired of fanboys wanting everything all serious all the time." At the very least in respect to this show.
I've been a huge Spider-Man fan since the 90's series and I watched a few eps of this and it was not my cup of tea.
BlackWolf219 said at 6:33 PM on Wed Feb 6 2013
@CatsTuxedo I stopped watching the show after about 18 episodes and saw the season finale. The show isn't bad; it sends good messages some times andt the voice-acting is great for the most part.
But interrupting the flow of the story just to make some joke is bound to upset some people. We've compared this show to Teen Titans, which could balance serious and silly without overdoing either one. I don't always agree with the raging fanboys online (even though I went through a bout of fanboy rage for a time) but the more level headed ones like Music Meister have made legiment critiques of the show.
I prefer darker and serious storytelling but that doesn't mean it should be the only thing comic book based shows should strive to be.
The show has great potential, it jsut has to find its balance.
ReplyBut interrupting the flow of the story just to make some joke is bound to upset some people. We've compared this show to Teen Titans, which could balance serious and silly without overdoing either one. I don't always agree with the raging fanboys online (even though I went through a bout of fanboy rage for a time) but the more level headed ones like Music Meister have made legiment critiques of the show.
I prefer darker and serious storytelling but that doesn't mean it should be the only thing comic book based shows should strive to be.
The show has great potential, it jsut has to find its balance.
TheVengeanceKnight said at 5:34 AM on Tue Mar 19 2013
@BlackWolf219
"The show has great potential, it jsut has to find its balance."
It does?
Reply"The show has great potential, it jsut has to find its balance."
It does?
coolgeek176 said at 2:56 PM on Sun Jan 27 2013
I hate how they handled the Rhino in this show. It isn't even based n the Ultimate universe Rhino. It was also weird that he was a teenager who transformed. It was a very predictable plot twist too. I knew it the first minute they introduced his character.
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VocalChameleon said at 8:39 PM on Thu Jan 31 2013
@coolgeek176 I personally don't mind. I mean, with the anti-bullying message the episode was trying to get across, I think it was handled pretty well. True, I wish they could've used a more traditional Rhino, but for what it was, it wasn't bad.
ReplyD.A.V.E. said at 11:13 PM on Thu Jan 31 2013
@VocalChameleon As a former victim of bullying myself, it didn't really handle it well. It had good intentions, but it emphasized FAR more on the whole "don't become a bully like the bully" than a concrete solution beyond telling adults, which while a legit solution, is not the only one and does not always work out as well.
ReplyVocalChameleon said at 10:54 AM on Sun Feb 3 2013
@D.A.V.E. I'm a victim of bullying, as well, and I have felt like doing what Alex did in the episode (the revenge part, not the whole become a monster angle). I think the episode did show that taking revenge isn't the right path to take. While it's not particularly a strong message, it is handled well enough for kids to understand it, as, let's be honest, the show is mainly directed towards kids.
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skeletonking1234 said at 11:49 AM on Sun Jan 20 2013
I think the only problem people have with the series is that the humor really takes away from the seriousness and action. I'm betting if they made this Deadpool the animated series it would've fared better
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CatsTuxedo said at 8:43 PM on Sun Jan 20 2013
@skeletonking1234 How dramatic and serious a show is has no bearing on its quality. However, you might have a point in that it's what comic fanboys think they want, and they're always the loudest voices.
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 3:55 AM on Mon Jan 21 2013
@CatsTuxedo But how well it's done, though, does have a bearing on its quality. And this show isn't doing "funny" very well.
ReplyCatsTuxedo said at 2:24 PM on Mon Jan 21 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight I will give you that. Even so, the mere presence of comedy, good or bad, seems to be kryptonite for that lot; I see so many of them bringing up the humor in their criticism, but never whether the humor itself is funny or not funny.
ReplyAvenger said at 12:06 AM on Fri Jan 25 2013
@CatsTuxedo Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: EMH both had lot of comedy, but people still loved them.
ReplyD.A.V.E. said at 1:20 AM on Fri Jan 25 2013
@skeletonking1234 No it wouldn't. The humor is still really bad. It would resemble Daniel Way's run on "Deadpool", which is universally hated by Deadpool fans for overreliance on 4th wall breaking, wacky humor, and turning the character into a complete joke.
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BlackWolf219 said at 3:14 PM on Sun Oct 28 2012
I'll admit that the season finale wasn't disappointing. I felt the humor tended to distract from the story being told. Steven Weber managed to pull off a sinister sounding Goblin and I'm hoping we'll see a new Venom in season 2. My interest in the show has been mildly replisnished.
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SLEDGERAID said at 12:01 PM on Thu Oct 4 2012
WHAT ROGER CRAIG SMITH!? that sounds really interesting!!!
ReplyMusic Meister said at 11:18 PM on Mon Oct 1 2012
Why was Dee Connors in US, seems pointless since it was a small part and Tom was already in the episode
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D.A.V.E. said at 2:27 AM on Tue Oct 2 2012
@Music Meister Maybe they re-dubbed him at the last minute just like a certain arachnid in a certain Avengers series? :P
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 3:24 AM on Tue Oct 2 2012
@D.A.V.E. Looking for redemption, methinks. :-P
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DeeBradleyBakerRules said at 9:51 AM on Wed Oct 17 2012
@Music Meister I think they're replacing Tom with for Connor's voice because they might be planning an episode with the Lizard in it.
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 6:14 AM on Sat Dec 22 2012
@DeeBradleyBakerRules Confirmed; the Season 2 premiere is a Lizard ep. with Dee playing him again.
ReplyDeeBradleyBakerRules said at 6:26 PM on Tue Jan 8 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Go figure. You know, that means that should add that role in here.
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Mr.Fennoy93 said at 1:01 AM on Mon Sep 24 2012
I Love the Humor of the show. My sister loves the whole series as well as Drake's Spider-Man.
Replyloredragonmaster said at 2:43 PM on Sun Jul 1 2012
I'm surprised no one's put up a voice compare for Doc Ock yet.
But yeah, the series is kinda...how should I put this...sucky. They should've just continued Spectacular, that was a fine series, and cancelling it was just pointless.
ReplyBut yeah, the series is kinda...how should I put this...sucky. They should've just continued Spectacular, that was a fine series, and cancelling it was just pointless.
AWIG said at 2:00 PM on Sat Jun 23 2012
My biggest problem with this show is that if it's not that different from the regular 616 universe. I know they said it was supposed to be an amalgam since the original Ultimate was a bit too dark for a kids show but so far this series is going nowhere fast. The "venom" subplot is the only thing that's somewhat interesting. The voice acting and animation are fantastic don't get me wrong but I really don't want an episodic show... Spider-man has such a large and awesome mythos with multiple storyline and yet we are treated to a mostly comedic take with a strange "original" plot. The whole young team-up is nice but I'm afraid this show is doomed to fail unless they pick up the pace and start adding some drama in this instead of your "villain of the week" scenario.
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SM Scorx said at 6:55 PM on Fri Jun 15 2012
You know, if you're going to call a series "Ultimate Spider-Man," at least make the characters LOOK like they are supposed to in the Ultimate Universe and NOT 616! And where's Deadpool?!
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Nightmare Crusher said at 7:47 PM on Thu Aug 30 2012
@SM Scorx If you want things to be accurately based on the Ultimate universe then you SHOULDN'T want Deadpool to be in this show.
ReplyTheVengeanceKnight said at 8:35 AM on Fri Aug 31 2012
@Nightmare Crusher They could do what they did in Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions and give Ultimate Deadpool 616 Deadpool's personality. ;-P
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Sarge Ray said at 6:55 AM on Tue May 1 2012
So, after watching the show with my expectations going up and down with each new thing revealed...I don't know what to make of it.
Now, hear me out. I won't go so far as to say it's bad: the animation is nice and detailed, the characters are in-character for the most part, and the premise does actually have something going for it after seeing the show.
The fourth-wall breaking, at least to me, feel very out-of-place. It really feels as though they're treating this as someone's first viewing of Spider-Man: not a good approach to a guy who has watched Spidey cartoons since he was a little kid. And the cartoony elements in something that has such good animation is just off-putting.
I should also point out some of the voice-acting. I have to say that I would NOT have chosen Drake Bell as Spider-Man or Tom Kenny as Doc Ock. At the same time, MJ and Harry sound pretty good. So, the acting is a mixed blessing to me.
This could be just my first impression, so I may have to watch more of the show to see if it will improve in any way.
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Now, hear me out. I won't go so far as to say it's bad: the animation is nice and detailed, the characters are in-character for the most part, and the premise does actually have something going for it after seeing the show.
The fourth-wall breaking, at least to me, feel very out-of-place. It really feels as though they're treating this as someone's first viewing of Spider-Man: not a good approach to a guy who has watched Spidey cartoons since he was a little kid. And the cartoony elements in something that has such good animation is just off-putting.
I should also point out some of the voice-acting. I have to say that I would NOT have chosen Drake Bell as Spider-Man or Tom Kenny as Doc Ock. At the same time, MJ and Harry sound pretty good. So, the acting is a mixed blessing to me.
This could be just my first impression, so I may have to watch more of the show to see if it will improve in any way.
CatsTuxedo said at 3:35 PM on Wed May 2 2012
@Sarge Ray Just for the record, "cartoony elements" and "good animation" aren't mutually exclusive. I could direct you to a lot of animation that could be considered even the least bit "cartoony" and have wonderful animation all the same, but I'd be digressing. Since I'm not watching this show, I wouldn't exactly know what kind of cartoony elements you're referring to. However, given how boring these character designs look, I suppose I shouldn't blame you for feeling somewhat off-put.
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OptimusSolo (Admin) said at 1:02 AM on Thu May 3 2012
@CatsTuxedo I'm not watching this show either but I don't think the character designs look boring at all.
ReplyAquafox84 said at 1:20 PM on Sun May 27 2012
@Sarge Ray The fourth wall element is no different than Christopher Daniel Barnes and his internal monologue. It's just a technique of informing the viewers of what is going on. It dates back further than that if I remember for Spider-Man.
ReplyNightmare Crusher said at 7:17 PM on Sat Sep 1 2012
@Aquafox84 It is quite different, even if they both are meant for the same purpose. In the old show having him monologue to himself could have a perfectly logical explanation of Spidey collecting his . Having him blatantly talking to the viewer is just out of place. This isn't Deadpool.
ReplyNightmare Crusher said at 5:30 PM on Thu Sep 6 2012
@Nightmare Crusher I meant collecting his thoughts. Whoops.
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CatsTuxedo said at 4:48 PM on Thu Apr 5 2012
From the looks of this page, I'm going to judge that the show's just trying to copy Young Justice in terms of the art and animation. I personally find that show's style to be stiff and boring as it is, so I'm naturally not enthusiastic about it this time around either. Spectacular Spider-Man's characters all looked the same, but at least the template for that show had some degree of appeal.
Replyfranklin said at 2:33 PM on Thu Apr 5 2012
Spectacular was so much better. Some of the character designs are nice on this show but that's really all the good things I have to say about it
ReplyMusic Meister said at 11:39 PM on Mon Apr 2 2012
I gotta say not what I expected the show to be about but I'm saying that in a good way. I'm sure I'm not alone in this but I got a Teen Titains vibe from the show and it's werid for Spiderman to break the forth wall but I still like this show.
ReplySarge Ray said at 6:40 AM on Sat Mar 31 2012
My expectations for this show have been on-and-off for a while. The artwork and voice cast looks promising, as does the writers. But would you believe me if I said that the premise is kind of off-putting?
Spider-Man teaming up with other superheroes to learn the duties of being a hero? Didn't he learn that when Uncle Ben died? Wasn't the "great power, great responsibility" message hammered into our heads? Spidey figured that out all by himself, so there really is no reason for other heroes to teach him.
Still, maybe they'll pull this off and make it good in the "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" kind of way. I still have hope for the show.
ReplySpider-Man teaming up with other superheroes to learn the duties of being a hero? Didn't he learn that when Uncle Ben died? Wasn't the "great power, great responsibility" message hammered into our heads? Spidey figured that out all by himself, so there really is no reason for other heroes to teach him.
Still, maybe they'll pull this off and make it good in the "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" kind of way. I still have hope for the show.
Music Meister said at 5:11 PM on Mon Mar 5 2012
Looks good, Though with the little info I know so far the only thing I'm excited to see is Tara Strong as MJ
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