Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.

Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.
Voice Director: Jamie Simone

US Premiere: Aug 11, 2013
US Conclusion: 2015

Seasons: 2
Episodes: 52

Popularity: 182nd All Time, 416th This Week

Franchise: Hulk
Characters on BTVA: 176
Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.
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Abdullab
said at 11:37 AM on Fri Mar 17 2017
If this show thought me anything is that Paul is better at wrtiting for DC than Marvel
TheLemsterPju
said at 11:21 AM on Mon Aug 15 2016
This show is getting a sequel animated movie next month called "Marvel's Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell".

It was announced at the 2016 SDCC.
Troodon2
said at 8:47 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@TheLemsterPju

where does it say it's a sequel?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 3:22 PM on Sat Oct 29 2016
@TheLemsterPju Yeah, I don't think it's so much a direct sequel to this series in particular, but just a stand-alone movie that focuses on Hulk.
Shaun Ince
said at 2:15 PM on Sat Jan 9 2016
 1 Shout Out!
I'm surprised they don't use more X-men characters in this show. The only two that are in this show are Sauron & Wolverine. Though I do like that they utilize more characters from different Marvel products like Fantastic 4.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 5:02 PM on Sat Jan 9 2016
@Shaun Ince They just seem to be phasing out X-Men characters from their animated slate in general these days. Or should I say, phasing out pretty much any character that isn't associated with the MCU.

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was pretty much the last time we saw any non-MCU characters play a significant role, outside of Wolverine or The Thing cameos.
Shaun Ince
said at 2:36 PM on Sun Jan 10 2016
@TylerMirage Yeah, It's a shame really.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 3:02 PM on Sun Jan 10 2016
@TylerMirage
I would say it's anything that Fox Studio owns specifically seeing as other series for shy away from Spiderman characters (even before the deal with Sony).
Which makes sense since I believe Fox and Marvel studios hate each other.
Autovolt
said at 4:39 AM on Mon Jan 11 2016
@TylerMirage It's really unfair that corporate politics keeps us from having a united Marvel universe.

It's a real shame since I really liked the casting ideas they had for the F4 in this continuity (RAD as Reed, Kari as Sue....etc...etc)

and we still have yet to see who they'd cast as the X-Men. :(
Shaun Ince
said at 9:26 PM on Thu Jul 14 2016
@Autovolt Chances are, they'd cast a few of the X-men with new VA's. The more prominent one's would probably have a mix of reprisals from Wolverine & The X-Men or the X-men anime. For example, Cyclops would be voiced by either Scott Porter or Nolan North.
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:53 PM on Thu Jan 1 2015
In an alternate timeline where Marvel didn't overuse comedy in their recent animated programs, if they were to keep the overall plot of this show and allowed more creative freedom, I could see it going into really dark places.

I mean, I love the idea of the Hulks only each other in a world where they're hated by almost everyone. They could have played the tragedy element and dwell on that notion, adding more dimension to these characters that we've rarely seen in a Marvel. Something that would have made this one of the deepest kid shows on right now.

Oh and better action scenes. You have 5 Hulks and a giant dinosaur as their "pet". Imagine how ungodly brutal that would be with LoK-choreographed fights. That would be truly incredible!
TheLemsterPju
said at 9:59 PM on Thu Jan 1 2015
@TheLemsterPju ...the Hulks only HAVE each other...

(Note to self: PROOFREAD.)
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:41 AM on Mon Jan 5 2015
@TheLemsterPju Despite all that, I still enjoy the show for what it is: goofy and fun entertainment.

That's the thing I actually really like about these new shows. If I'm having a bad day, I watch an episode or two and it cheers me up a bit. I have nothing against Spectacular Spider-Man (other than the fact some people obsess over it to the uttermost extreme), but that leaves you feeling bittersweet or gloomy by the end of each episode. I can see why Marvel choose to be more light hearted and comedic with their new animated progams considering the depressing world we live in now.

Though it would be nice if they gave the writers more creative freedom. Though it is what is it. I'll take what I get.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 3:47 PM on Wed Nov 26 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
I hadn't noticed this before but Wolverine's "ears" (or whatever their called) are shorter than they tend to be, I wonder if that was suppose to be a reference to Wolverine's original appearance in Hulk.
madalex1234
said at 9:45 AM on Tue Nov 4 2014
 4 Shout Outs!
Groot and RR look terrifying.
Metabad
said at 6:41 AM on Fri Nov 21 2014
@madalex1234 I can't be too sure since I've never seen this show for myself, but I actually think that from this stillshot, Groot actually looks kind of cool.

Rocket Racoon does look kind of off though, like he has a mustache or something.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:41 AM on Fri Nov 21 2014
@Metabad The Groot and RR designs in SMASH are the same as the ones in USM, it's just that the animation quality seems to be slightly lower and they've slightly exaggerated the features. Groot looks 95% like he did in USM, it's just that his maw is elongated, his teeth seem larger and his musculature resembles musculature, rather than tree bark.

As for RR's moustache...yeah...I don't know why he looks like that. All of the current animated Rocket's have that facial hair, it's just that HERE it actually looks like a moustache, ha ha.
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:07 AM on Thu Sep 4 2014
 3 Shout Outs!
I have no idea why the show's color are so darkly tinited.

I've actually taken screenshots from several episodes and increased the vibrance and saturation on Photoshop; It looks MUCH better and more colorful.
VctrBnsn
said at 8:09 AM on Sun Jan 26 2014
 8 Shout Outs!
Why is it that nothing involving Galactus these days has any mention of Silver Surfer?
Lpfan120
said at 10:04 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
Lego Marvel Heroes did
VctrBnsn
said at 10:07 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@Lpfan120 And I was so happy. But still this, thye finale to EMH, do they think he's to complicated to wok into the story?
The Doctor
said at 12:38 PM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@VctrBnsn EMH was understandable. That episode was already crammed with so much that there's no way that they could have also done SS's story.
VctrBnsn
said at 3:59 PM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@The Doctor Sadly, which is why I wish they went with Surtur for the finale instead.
GothamRed
said at 9:13 AM on Mon Feb 17 2014
@VctrBnsn There was too much build up to Surtur to have a one episode battle against him. Galactus had only been mentioned once before then so there was no great expectations with him at the time within the series itself. Though the focus on one-episode length plotlines when the show's production changed is what likely killed the Surtur arc.
CLG
said at 5:51 PM on Sat Jan 25 2014
 1 Shout Out!
The animation looks awful. I don't know why I am so cranky right now. Maybe it's because I just watched James and the Giant Peach.
TheLemsterPju
said at 1:02 PM on Sun Jan 26 2014
@CLG It improved a lot in today's episode. The animation was fluid and the action was great. There was only one or two still-frame moments from what I recall.
GothamRed
said at 10:35 PM on Sun Dec 15 2013
 6 Shout Outs!
Am I the only one who thinks this show has the worst character designs out of all the Loeb-verse shows?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:20 AM on Mon Dec 16 2013
@GothamRed Which is odd, because they're really only *slightly* different than USM and AA. ;)
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:05 PM on Wed Dec 25 2013
@GothamRed

I wish people wouldn't call it the "Loeb-verse". Man of Action has just as much to do with its creative process.

A better name would be the Marvel Animated Universe.....because that's what seems to be trying to be.
GothamRed
said at 6:43 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@TheLemsterPju The Marvel animated universe is what people call the series in the 90s from X-Men to Avengers United They Stand because it started at the same time as the DC animated universe and had various crossovers between shows.
TheLemsterPju
said at 2:42 PM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@GothamRed

Who says there can't be more than one?
GothamRed
said at 2:59 PM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@TheLemsterPju Calling them the same thing would be confusing.
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:24 AM on Fri Jan 3 2014
@GothamRed

Still, calling it the "Loeb-verse" sounds kind of rude. Just name it the Marvel Animated Universe #2.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:39 AM on Fri Jan 3 2014
@TheLemsterPju Personally, I don't think that "Loeb-verse" sounds rude. It's just the fact that it's only called that because of the negative connotation that annoys me. "Loeb-verse" would be a fine nickname if the shows were met with better response, but since they aren't, "Loeb-verse" automatically has a "ha ha it sucks because LOEB!"-meaning to it.
TheLemsterPju
said at 9:21 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage

I don't hate Loeb as a person just because some of his work in the past is questionable. That crazy. He's actually a very nice guy in real life, and yet people are making death threats towards him. (Zeus) Almighty that REALLY burns my tamales.

I saw a webcomic of someone throwing a tied-up Jeph Loeb into a fire because he "made" Ultimate Spider-Man....People who think that stuff is funny need to be put in a mental home.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 9:33 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TheLemsterPju I know, right? The fans who make threatening remarks to people like Loeb (or anyone involved with anything that didn't happen to meet their particular expectations) are ridiculous. If you're making comments about Loeb, Michael Bay, Shane Black, etc. and saying that they should die because they did something you didn't like...well...then I think it's time those people start rethinking their priorities in life.
GothamRed
said at 9:51 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage I don't think I've heard of anyone threatening Shane Black like the other 2, but yeah that does go overboard. Personally I call it the Loebverse for a similar reason I call the A:EMH/WatX universe the Yost-verse, first it takes less time to both say and type, and second because he does hold a high position in the show's production, regardless of who else works on it. I'm not using it in a derogatory way.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 10:26 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@GothamRed The threats for Shane Black aren't *quite* as common, given that "Iron Man 3" was only recently released (while Bay and Loeb have had their work around for years). But you can still find a lot of negative comments towards Black/Feige/other key creatives for "Iron Man 3". Just scour other movie site comment sections and you can find them (but I wouldn't recommend it, because the internet is a horrid place filled with poisonous opinions and vitriol). They're pretty horrible and stupid (the comments, that is). In fact, there was a former BTVA member who was scarily offended by "Iron Man 3" and had A LOT of negativity towards it and Black/Feige.

Oh yeah, I wasn't saying YOU were using "Loeb-verse" in a negative way. :) Don't worry, I wasn't. You're a better person than that. It's just that a lot of people DO use it negatively.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:28 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage I love how you forgot/neglected to mention M. Night Shyamalan. :-P
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:28 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage

A LOT of negativity, or just one loudmouth on the Internet acting like an idiot? *wink, wink* ;-)
GothamRed
said at 10:58 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage Yeah, I have seen the hate of Iron Man 3, though the thing most people hate about it is very easily fixable. I'd always assumed that some people would overract to the point of threats, I just personally never saw it, so I'll have to take your word on it.

And thanks by the way. :)
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 11:59 AM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Shyamalan is another good example, though I haven't witnessed any threats to his wellbeing, personally. Just a lot of negativity.

And, well, there is that one loudmouth, but there is also a lot of other people, particularly on ComingSoon.net.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 7:53 PM on Sat Jan 4 2014
@TylerMirage

I assumed after his horrid adaptation of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" that people would be after him a lot.

I did see an online movement trying to get him to go back into film school, though. Hmmm...
DVJ
said at 2:47 PM on Sat Dec 7 2013
Theres gonna be an episode soon,witch will feature Venom and.....eh Carnage.Okay how the hell does that make sense if this show shares the same universe as Ultimate spiderman.

Also ,this informacion could be false of course,guess who they got back to voice Venom,and what new VA will voice Carnage
LordofEvil96
said at 2:48 PM on Thu Oct 31 2013
 4 Shout Outs!
Is it just me or are they using less Hulk villains and more Fantastic Four villains?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 3:19 PM on Sat Nov 23 2013
@Xymor I'd really like to know what makes you think that Ultimate Spider-Man deliberately goes out of its way to avoid using Spider-Man villains. O.o

Norman Osborne/Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, Kraven, Sandman, The Lizard, Electro, Scorpion, Rhino and Carnage are all present. Sure there's plenty of non-Spider-Man villains in the show, but LOTS of superhero shows are guilty of that. It's all about world-building. They have the iconic villains from the franchise, but they also spread out and cover villains (and characters in general) from other franchises that happen to share the same world.

Plus, we'll have to see what season three brings. Who knows? Maybe they'll throw in Kingpin, Shocker, Vulture, Mysterio and others?

*Let it be noted that I DO agree that SMASH seems to be using a more varied rogues gallery, rather than more recognized Hulk villains... I'd *love* to see Abomination, Zzzaxx, Bi-Beast, etc..
The Doctor
said at 12:38 PM on Fri Dec 13 2013
@TylerMirage MOA said during a interview that Loeb told them avoid using Spidey characters much as possible.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:33 AM on Sat Dec 14 2013
@The Doctor And we see how well THAT is turning out, ha ha. ;)
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:34 AM on Sat Dec 14 2013
@The Doctor Wait, sorry. Are you saying that they wanted Ultimate Spider-Man to avoid using Spidey characters or that they wanted SMASH to avoid using Spidey characters?
The Doctor
said at 8:37 AM on Sat Dec 14 2013
@TylerMirage USM.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 10:01 AM on Sat Dec 14 2013
@The Doctor That makes it even weirder! XD What kind of logic is that? "Let's avoid using Spider-Man characters in the new Spider-Man series"?!?!
The Doctor
said at 10:58 AM on Sat Dec 14 2013
@TylerMirage I dunno, Loeb-logic or loebgic if you will XD

Popular conspiracy theory is that they want to avoid advertising Sony's Spider-Man movies while also using Spidey as promotional vehicle for rest of the Marvel Universe.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 10:16 PM on Sun Dec 15 2013
@The Doctor That conspiracy theory...actually makes sense.
GothamRed
said at 10:31 PM on Sun Dec 15 2013
@The Doctor Well it's also a merchandising thing, Marvel owns the rights to all Spider-Man merchandise and Sony owns film right. They want to advertise their toy and apparel lines without tying them into the ASM-Verse
skeletonking1234
said at 6:28 PM on Wed Oct 9 2013
 1 Shout Out!
couldn't we have just kept four of the EMH writers to work on these shows? IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!?!??
TheLemsterPju
said at 6:13 PM on Tue Feb 18 2014
@skeletonking1234 Brandom Aumann worked on EMH. He writes for this show.
TheLemsterPju
said at 4:27 PM on Thu Nov 20 2014
@skeletonking1234 The EMH writers are also writing Avengers Assemble now.

Soooo what was the point in yelling this out as if it was a big deal?
skeletonking1234
said at 10:41 PM on Sun Nov 23 2014
@TheLemsterPju because they clearly aren't given as much freedom here as they were in EMH.
TheLemsterPju
said at 5:15 PM on Wed Nov 26 2014
@skeletonking1234 As much as I would want the writers to have more freedom, which is actually what they're doing right now with these shows btw, you gotta take what you get without EMH in mind.
VctrBnsn
said at 8:45 AM on Sat Sep 14 2013
OK new episode has Hulk with his team, but in new AA, he's still with the Avengers. And AA still has his savage personality. I could of sworn Loeb said all these shoes share continuity, so if that's the case, this is some incredibly lazy writing.
UltimateCharm
said at 5:26 AM on Mon Sep 16 2013
@VctrBnsn Well, its typical Loeb.
partymonster411
said at 12:06 PM on Sat Sep 21 2013
@VctrBnsn i think the timeline goes
AA- USM- HATAOS
cuz theres that one USM episode where Hulk runs away hinting at AOS
TheLemsterPju
said at 1:52 PM on Sat Oct 12 2013
@partymonster411

If AA takes place before USM then where the heck is Molecule Kid?
partymonster411
said at 2:48 PM on Fri Oct 18 2013
@TheLemsterPju maybe he grew up and became a real shield agent
Troodon2
said at 10:07 PM on Fri Nov 1 2013
@VctrBnsn Personally I blame Joe Quesada more, he was never involved with the previous Marvel Animated shows. Why JQ... Remember Spider-Man: One More Day?!
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:49 PM on Fri Nov 1 2013
@Troodon2 And also blame him for forcing Loeb out of retirement. If he didn't, Loeb would've left the industry as a hero.
DVJ
said at 3:08 PM on Sat Dec 7 2013
@VctrBnsn Its obvious by now that these writer just throw their hands upp and say `this is for kids,they dont give a damn **** about continiouty`.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:15 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@Comicfan117 Indeed.
Saturn
said at 9:29 AM on Wed Jul 2 2014
@VctrBnsn Yea I been wondering that myself, I think it's like @partymonster411 said, AA-USM-AOS or USM-AA-AOS, but with one or a few years apart too justify the different characterization of the Hulk but this is just Wild Man Guessing until we get a canonical statement.
Fulgore2005
said at 8:04 AM on Sat Aug 31 2013
Okayish show at best. I like Clancy Brown as Big Red, but the animation is sub-average and I don't really like how the characters are portrayed (show-wise).

Oh, Drake Bell and Adrian Pasdar have reprised their roles again? Good grief...
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 7:51 PM on Tue Aug 27 2013
 6 Shout Outs!
I will say one terrible thing about this show (and this goes for AA and US as well). It's been three shows...AND NONE OF THEME SONGS!? Come on, a catchy rock tone would be perfect for a Hulk show.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:13 PM on Tue Aug 20 2013
 7 Shout Outs!
EVERYTHING IS STILL IN SHADOW! Why? Do they think that it will make the show edgy or some nonsense?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:48 AM on Thu Aug 22 2013
@Nightmare Crusher I'm still not a supporter of the "constantly backlit"-thing, but I think it makes a *little* more sense in SMASH than it does in AA. Characters in AA can be in DIRECT SUNLIGHT, and still be backlit. At least with SMASH, the environments sort of cater to that lighting direction. A stormy desert, cramped cockpits, deep and dark military base, alternate space dimension, etc..
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 2:02 AM on Mon Aug 26 2013
@Nightmare Crusher

This Tumblr post (NSFW LANGUAGE WARNING):

http://starkient.tumblr.com/post/58156424950/dc-vs-marvel-via

Just swap DC and Marvel and swap out live-action movies with cartoons.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 6:49 PM on Thu Aug 15 2013
 2 Shout Outs!
It's not fantastic or terrible, I can see why people would hate it and why some would like it. Personally, nothing made me want to watch more.

I do like what they did with Hulk though
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 3:13 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@Music Meister
Now that I've seen two episodes...I actually kinda like it. Animation tries too hard but I like it.
And even though people are whinnying about how Red Hulk is portrayed but I find it entertaining
partymonster411
said at 3:53 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@Music Meister i miss Bruce Banner
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:13 PM on Tue Aug 20 2013
@partymonster411 Same. Not to harp on SMASH in particular, but yeah, between USM, AA and now SMASH *too*, I'm missing Banner.
partymonster411
said at 8:56 PM on Tue Aug 20 2013
@TylerMirage yeah u think with his popularity in the avengers movie and giving Mark Ruffalo a career again, BB should be in it
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:56 AM on Wed Aug 28 2013
@partymonster411 I know, right? Plus, it just adds that extra bit more to the character. If he changes back to Bruce Banner, is he still an Avenger? What would they do with him? Would he feel worthwhile, or more of a hindrance? Adds that extra depth.
partymonster411
said at 4:56 PM on Thu Aug 29 2013
@TylerMirage but kids dont want that, they want his character non-existent just for more mindless action and one-liners
LordofEvil96
said at 9:46 AM on Thu Aug 15 2013
Well. Now that it's out, what does everyone think of it?
SupremeTarantulas
said at 1:57 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@LordofEvil96 Worst of the 3. James's Leader has me drawn for a while but I can't stand the way the characters act besides Hulk.
VctrBnsn
said at 6:57 AM on Tue Aug 6 2013
I wonder how this is going to fit in with the other two shows.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:58 PM on Tue Aug 6 2013
@VctrBnsn Based on what we've seen in the first episode...my guess is "hardly" or "not at all". ;)
VctrBnsn
said at 7:19 AM on Wed Aug 7 2013
@TylerMirage Yet it's obviously supposed to be set in the Ultimate Spider-Man/Avengers Assemble universe. Heck, even US set it up by giving Hulk more intelligence. Yet, if he's on this team, what about the Avengers? Heck, they'll probably explain. Iron Man's supposed to be in the next episode, and Spider-Man in the one after that.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:06 PM on Wed Aug 7 2013
@VctrBnsn Cross-series continuity? That doesn't appeal to children; they have enough problems trying to keep up with continuity within individual shows!
VctrBnsn
said at 6:45 AM on Thu Aug 8 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight No, what confuses children is having two Marvel shows that DON'T share continuity, so they cancel one perfectly good Avengers show just to air a new one less than a year later......
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 9:20 AM on Fri Aug 9 2013
@VctrBnsn But it'd still raise some questions (that may or may not be answered in the show itself).

If Hulk appears to be on his own in this series, is this before or after the events of AA/USM? Heck, when Hulk appears in USM, does that mean he's just taking a break from being an Avenger in AA? The characters in USM treat him like a rampaging monster on the loose, while AA characters treat him like an actual hero. And SMASH is sort of "the Hulk show", where he's far more intelligent and leading his own team. So how does that jive? You've basically got three slightly different versions of the same character all doing their own thing in three different shows that are somehow supposed to be connected.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 3:09 PM on Fri Aug 9 2013
@VctrBnsn Plus, we're just lucky that Marvel didn't try to shoehorn USM/AA/SMASH into the EMH-universe, because then it'd REALLY be a mess, ha ha! (Which then begs the question, if EMH wasn't intended to be a part of the USM/AA worlds, then why bother with the Spider-Man episodes that are all "HEY GUISE, IT'S SPIDEY FROM ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN!"?
VctrBnsn
said at 5:17 PM on Fri Aug 9 2013
@TylerMirage I imagine the show taking place during the events of both shows, as the smartness thing has been explained in US. With the next few episodes, we'll probably see how it all fits. As for replacing Josh with Drake in EMH, they probably just didn't want to confuse young audience members with two different Spider-Man voices. Superhero shows do this kind of thing all the time, even though I know kids are smart enough to know the difference.
Chronic
said at 9:41 PM on Mon Aug 12 2013
@VctrBnsn I agree; they've made references now in Hulk to relate to the others in the universe; they all do belong to the same universe and they're doing this for marketing purposes and crossovers. I think however Hulk is in retrospect in a time somewhat in the future to what the others are currently; so I think the others will catch up to Hulk in the coming time frame. I could be wrong; but from their marketing stance that seems to be the case.
VctrBnsn
said at 7:50 AM on Tue Aug 13 2013
@TylerMirage You spoke too soon. The new episode og Assemble shows a flash back with the EMH designs.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 9:55 PM on Tue Aug 13 2013
@VctrBnsn Well, Hulk *is* intelligent in USM, but nowhere near the level that they depict him in SMASH.

And as for the EMH-flashback, I think that moreso had to do with them trying to be stylistic, rather than actually connecting it to EMH.
VctrBnsn
said at 8:13 AM on Wed Aug 14 2013
@TylerMirage I think so too.
pokemastanumba1
said at 6:29 PM on Wed Aug 14 2013
A lot of recent Marvel shows (including this, TAEMH, AA) have a lot of Fred *speaking* as the Hulk, so maybe there's still some sort of "continuity" that they're trying to maintain. I like it that way, it makes Hulk more of a relatable character, as opposed to the literal monster he was back in the cartoons of the 90's.
SupremeTarantulas
said at 1:56 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@VctrBnsn Hulk was absent in this week's episode so it might have taken place during that?
VctrBnsn
said at 7:11 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@pete I believe so. Based on recent episodes of both shows, it is certain that Ultimate, Assemble, and SMASH all share continuity.

BTW, Jamie Simone is voice directing this series. I'm glad he's back.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:45 PM on Fri Aug 16 2013
@VctrBnsn You sure Jamie Simone isn't an inferior clone of Jaime Simone that Marvel created to voice-direct? :-O
VctrBnsn
said at 11:42 AM on Sat Aug 17 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight That's a long way to go just to screw with the fans.....
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 1:44 PM on Sat Aug 17 2013
@VctrBnsn The amount of $$$$$ they'll make from catering to the lowest common denominator will make it well worth it in the long run. :-P
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:14 PM on Tue Aug 20 2013
@pete I think that's a bit of a stretch. Hulk missing for one or two episodes of AA translating to "I'm on my own now and have my own team and my own base and my own adventures"? It's still iffy. I mean, SMASH acts like Hulk isn't a part of the Avengers in any capacity.
SupremeTarantulas
said at 12:11 PM on Wed Aug 21 2013
@TylerMirage What we've seen of it so far. This is the Loebiverse after all.
VctrBnsn
said at 11:09 AM on Mon Aug 26 2013
@TylerMirage I say the newest episode makes it clear that Ultimate Spider-Man/Avengers Assemble/SMASH all share the same universe.
SupremeTarantulas
said at 6:41 PM on Mon Aug 26 2013
@VctrBnsn He didn't even bother rescuing the Avengers.
SupremeTarantulas
said at 6:42 PM on Mon Aug 26 2013
@TylerMirage He didn't even bother rescuing them from The Collector.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:56 PM on Tue Aug 27 2013
@VctrBnsn On paper, yes. But there's still so many things that just don't quite jive. Or at least, make you raise an eyebrow to them sharing continuity.
VctrBnsn
said at 7:22 PM on Tue Aug 27 2013
@TylerMirage I'm not just going by the casts being similar. In AA, Nick Fury mentions his team of young heroes, connecting it to USM. USM makes Hulk more intelligent using an experiment with Mesmero, connecting it to SMASH. Plus, season 3 of USM will have a crossover with AA. Not only that but Hulk was also absent in the last episode of AA, probably because of SMASH.

Plus, SMASH is airing while USM and AA are on hiatus, probably so it seems that the events in SMASH are not happening at the same time as the other two. Any other continuity error is probably just a mistake in writing.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:55 AM on Wed Aug 28 2013
@VctrBnsn I agree about those things. USM and AA are no doubt in the same universe, especially based on events in the last episode or two. But things still don't quite jive in SMASH, even if it's *supposed* to be. They want it to be, and it mostly is, but it's not perfect. It's sort of like how Transformers Cybertron is part of the Unicron trilogy, yet there's plenty of examples of how/why it shouldn't be connected to Armada/Energon.

I know I've said this before, but... Hulk missing for one or two episodes of AA translating to "I'm on my own now and have my own team and my own base and my own adventures" is iffy at best. Seriously. Hulk shows up periodically in USM because, well, I dunno. He's either spending all of his time with the Avengers in AA, or he's still a beast on the run as per USM. Either one of those scenarios doesn't translate well into SMASH. He has his own team of Hulks, a strong relationship with Rick Jones, his own military base, behaves like he's been on the run for years and acts like he's been doing this for ages, rather than as an established member of the Avengers in AA. He acts like the Avengers are merely another random superhero team on Earth, rather than his FAMILY AND TEAM like he's portrayed in AA. Heck, even Tony seems aloof to the fact that Hulk is out on his own in SMASH. I mean, Tony, you apparently spend a lot of time with the Hulk in AA since he's one of your teammates, right? Shouldn't you be wondering how, why and when Hulk has basically set up an entire life in his one or two missing days from the Avengers? They've done very little to set-up a concrete timeline of events.

Hulk gaining *some* level of intelligence in USM/AA, yet appears to be *very* intelligent in SMASH. Hulk only gained that intelligence in USM because it was Peter in Hulk's body. Why would that intelligence/speaking ability stick with Hulk after everything's fixed? Going from "Hulk stay in bed because Hulk feel sleepy, NOT because Bug-Man say so" to "I don't know what I'd ever do if something happened to Rick"/"As for Rick, well, what happens next changes us forever" is a big stretch. Hulk is at completely different levels of intelligence in USM, AA and SMASH. (SMASH>AA>USM)

Airing SMASH while AA and USM are on break so that it seems like SMASH takes place during said absence is lame reasoning on their part. Now, if AA has an episode where Hulk is all like "I'm done with the Avengers, I'm going off on my own to make my own team!" and then proceeds to be absent for 10+ episodes, only showing up once in a while in AA, then it'd make sense. If they establish that SMASH takes place AFTER all is said and done in USM and AA, it'd make sense. It's just a head-scratcher when one tries to imagine these three shows all taking place at the relatively same time.
VctrBnsn
said at 9:53 AM on Wed Aug 28 2013
@TylerMirage I guess we'll just have to wait and see where they take the series. If Hulk constantly appears in AA with no mention of SMASH, I'll be willing to say they don't share continuity. But for now, based of Loebs current mindset, I'm willing to bet they still share, even if the writing doesn't completely mesh together. Sorry if I come off as arguementive, I totally see where you are coming from.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 10:49 PM on Wed Aug 28 2013
@VctrBnsn No, no, you're not coming off as argumentative at all, Vctr. :) Nothing but a healthy debate. In fact, the conversation is pretty much this, over-and-over:

VctrBnsn: "They share continuity."
TylerMirage: "HUR DUR but it doesn't match 100%!!!1!"

XD
VctrBnsn
said at 6:58 AM on Thu Aug 29 2013
@TylerMirage Thanks for being so cool about it.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 12:59 AM on Sun Jun 16 2013
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I'm actually looking forward to this show more now that I know it's a comical show
Mr.Fennoy93
said at 12:03 AM on Sat Jan 26 2013
Now it's Comedic.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/destruktor2k/news/?a=73006
coolgeek176
said at 3:49 PM on Sun Dec 9 2012
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This show has some interesting casting. The designs look alright too.
CatsTuxedo
said at 6:44 PM on Fri Dec 7 2012
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And once again, She-Hulk is just an average woman two feet taller than normal and painted green. I probably shouldn't wonder why everyone's so afraid of giving us a proper She-HULK, but it never ceases to bug me :/
coolgeek176
said at 7:41 PM on Sun Dec 9 2012
@CatsTuxedo The comic book She-Hulk is about 6'7. When she's not hulked out she's about 5'10.
CatsTuxedo
said at 3:23 PM on Mon Dec 10 2012
@coolgeek176 That wasn't my point, but whatever :/
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:53 AM on Sat Jan 26 2013
@CatsTuxedo

Considering that, from what I've heard, this show's gonna be mindless action and violence with no depth whatsoever, not unlike Ultimate Spider-Man, I think not getting a proper She-Hulk should be the least of your worries.
coolgeek176
said at 9:07 PM on Sat Jan 26 2013
@CatsTuxedo That is pretty much what She-Hulk always looked like so I don't really get what you are saying here. What exactly is a proper She-Hulk?
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:09 PM on Sat Jan 26 2013
@coolgeek176 I don't get it, either.
CatsTuxedo
said at 1:25 AM on Sun Jan 27 2013
@coolgeek176 Just because it's what she always looked like doesn't mean it makes sense. Being a towering mountain of muscle is probably the Hulk's most distinguishing element, so why does She-Hulk not share this trait?

The only explanation I can think of is that muscular women weren't considered marketable to the mainstream public back when she was created, and the one reason she hasn't gained an ounce of bulk since then in spite of changing social mores is the target audience's fear of change.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 3:19 AM on Sun Jan 27 2013
@CatsTuxedo If that's the case, she's nothing more than an imitation of Hulk. Why would I want to watch an imitation when I could watch the original and superior thing?
CatsTuxedo
said at 4:52 AM on Sun Jan 27 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Which brings me to another point. She-Hulk's powers came to be because Jenny received an emergency blood transfusion from Bruce Banner himself, which means she literally has the exact same powers as he does. So you are correct in that she logically should be similar to (if not an outright imitation of) the Hulk, and as I recall, she actually did share her cousin's savageness when the character first started out.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind at all the more popular personality she developed later on to differentiate herself from the Hulk. Getting back to the original subject, my problem is that she's never had the impressive musculature of her male counterpart; she always merely looks like a traditionally feminine woman who happens to be 6-and-a-half-feet tall and painted green, and as this show's production art proves, that issue persists to this day.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:16 PM on Fri Feb 1 2013
@CatsTuxedo Aren't you the one who said that real-life logic doesn't always apply to cartoon logic?
CatsTuxedo
said at 9:37 PM on Fri Feb 1 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight True, I did say that recently. Guess I was just seeking to stroke my ego a bit by calling out the double standard presented here.
Chronic
said at 9:38 PM on Mon Aug 12 2013
@CatsTuxedo I do not believe there is a double standard once so ever. In all actuality the reason why she is a more simplistic hulk shape was described many times in many past issues of EVEN HER OWN SERIES. So I think you might want to check your facts.. Especially considering the fact that Bruce Banner was Gammafied; she was only given the blood of a gammafied in which case it and her blood merge. Meaning she clearly wouldn't be as hulky. I'm sure she'd rather be less hulky then really hulky ANYWAYS; because she's a reasonable person.
Chronic
said at 9:43 PM on Mon Aug 12 2013
@Chronic Especially if you take into consideration who is voicing the role; a very well known strong character. She is established as who she is and it would be wrong to change her.. Which is what Marvel is trying to avoid doing that DC has done.
Chronic
said at 9:43 PM on Mon Aug 12 2013
@Chronic Yay love stan
Mr.Fennoy93
said at 1:36 AM on Fri Nov 23 2012
 2 Shout Outs!
So Uh, Clancy Brown is Gonna voice Red Hulk? Intresting.
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