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Avengers Assemble

Avengers Assemble

Avengers Assemble
First Aired (USA): July 7, 2013

Franchise: Marvel Universe
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Polyester Funk
said at 12:40 AM on Sat Apr 19 2014
I know the credits list John DiMaggio reprised Galactus, but he sounded different here. I wonder if John changed his voice on his own or if it was altered somehow. He sounds more like Kevin Michael Richardson who was in the episode as Groot so he could have done it instead of getting John again for such a brief part.

I'm just wondering if it's a mistake in the credits is all.
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 4:48 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
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What I've been wondering for some while is if Loeb is actively targeting these shows at kids as I believe he claimed at some point, why do all his shows look like this? The style just seems like the antithesis of what the average kid would like out of a cartoon. I'm sure Loeb would've been more successful in his aim if he had recruited actual cartoonists to take charge of the visuals.
TheLemsterPju
said at 5:29 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@CatsTuxedo I believe he or someone at Marvel Animation said they wanted to emulate a comic book art style in terms of overall design.

Notice how they HAD to add some blockiness to it to make it easier to animate.
TheLemsterPju
said at 5:31 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@CatsTuxedo But yeah. I would have much preferred they carried over AEMH's art style into their shows. Ultimate Spider-Man right now seems to be at a fine line between that and the "comic book" style.
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 5:49 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@TheLemsterPju That's rather strange. You would think a style that had less cluttered details and less ambiguous shapes in the character construction would be easier to animate than this.
TheLemsterPju
said at 6:45 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@CatsTuxedo Well when you word it that way, yeah pretty much. That makes sense.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:01 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@CatsTuxedo I thought it was 'cause he was accused of pandering to kids, and chose a dull art style for his next two shows so that they didn't look like cartoons for children.
TheLemsterPju
said at 8:27 AM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Dude, just stop. All you do here is complain about these shows when you DON'T HAVE TO.

If you don't like them, don't pay any attention to it. Complaining about it continuously makes you look bad.
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 9:17 AM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@CatsTuxedo The average kid also often gravitates towards things that look more "detailed, gritty, and realistic" while sticking their noses up to things they deem too kiddy. You know, like twelve year-olds who rabidly play games like Call of Duty and make fun of more visually inventive, colorful games because "they're for little kids." As much as there are a lot of kids who love colorful, organic looking cartoons with the aesthetics you described, there are a lot who would rather take the more realistic, "mature" looking ones for whatever reason. That's just the way a lot of children are now, I suppose.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:52 AM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@PsychicVoiceSpy I thought that was the average teenager?
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 10:56 AM on Thu Mar 13 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight I actually went through that phase when I was about eleven or twelve years old. Around the time I was either fifteen or sixteen, I was well on my way out of it.
MR.KLAC
said at 8:04 AM on Thu Feb 13 2014
hmm well admit saw few some eps of it yet still one thing bother where are other female characters?

give yet did anyone notice there been barely any other female marvel characters yet to appear on it?

i find it bit bother on it give really where are other females characters for this series?
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 10:18 AM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@MR.KLAC Oh, haven't you heard? Quesada thinks girls are icky. I mean, what else would you expect from the guy who gave us One More Day? ;)

Joking aside, judging from how BW's being written in this show, I would have to guess that the writers/developers behind this simply have no clue how to write for any other kind of female character, so they don't try.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 11:11 AM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@CatsTuxedo

You sure that's not Dan DiDio you're thinking about? :-P
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 11:20 AM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@CatsTuxedo Same could be said for male characters :/
MR.KLAC
said at 5:48 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@CatsTuxedo yet seem already 16eps in yet only one female on this show?

give find bit hmm since sorta watch mission marvel phineas & ferb yet notice other marvel cartoon too much on male & lack of female?

really why do i feel like yea we need more focus on female superhero in these cartoon showing these days?
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 6:43 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Nah, DiDio's the one who thinks superheroes being happy with their lives is dumb :P
Polyester Funk
said at 11:28 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@MR.KLAC Is it just cuz these shows are geared towards boys that they don't want to put more females on. Agents of SMASH does have She-Hulk and her foe Titania appeared briefly in one episode, but that's about it for female heroes. Oh, I guess I should count White Tiger on USM, but I don't watch that regularly.
Spider-Fox
said at 4:35 PM on Wed Feb 19 2014
@MR.KLAC Honestly the single female per large group of males and the female being portrayed as having the personality of being "perfect" are two of my most hated tropes. Really that all marvel animations these days have this is such a massive strike against marvel that IMO it ALMOST makes parts of the New 52 appealing to me.
Regomania
said at 2:13 PM on Tue Mar 11 2014
@CatsTuxedo WAIT. THEY COULD EASILY JUST WRITE MARIA HILL INTO THE SHOW.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 6:07 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
@MR.KLAC WOW! At this point, only FOUR female characters have appeared on this show. FOUR! Two, if I'm just referring to the superheroes. I can literally count how many females on just one hand. Contrast that with A:EMH. As if I need another reason to despise this show...
TheLemsterPju
said at 7:19 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
@UltimateCharm If I may point out, you have a Hawkeye avatar. What is the reason for that?
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 7:25 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
@TheLemsterPju I like the face he made.
TheLemsterPju
said at 7:34 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
@MR.KLAC IMO Black Widow was never really an interesting character for me to begin with, until I saw The Winter Soldier. Before then I just thought she was just a bad*ss spy with attitude. I think how she was portrayed in this show isn't any different than how she was in other Marvel cartoons.

Now that doesn't mean I'm totally okay with the little screen time and development she receives here. However after "Hulked Out Heroes", "Planet Doom", "Molecule Kid", I think she's an okay-ish character. Despite the writers not putting here in enough episodes, let alone giving us a reason to sympathize with her more.

As for the lack of other female characters, it doesn't really bother me. I grew up with shows like that, it's something I used to I guess.
Spider-Fox
said at 6:48 AM on Thu Jan 30 2014
So with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver on the way for Avengers 2 what are the odds of the two becoming cast members of this show?
Anyone think Marvel will spring for Kate Higgins and Hildreth again or will Loeb recast them for more "Heroes" cast members?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 2:35 PM on Thu Jan 30 2014
@Spider-Fox It wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to throw SW or QS in there. They'll probably do a few things in the second season to match up with the MCU - give Falcon a more "realistic" outfit, introduce Ultron, have the Chitauri show up, etc..
GothamRed
said at 3:24 PM on Thu Jan 30 2014
@TylerMirage It'd be nice to have a female member of the team who isn't absent from half the episodes and who's power isn't "the creators must make her seem overly-competent so that audience won't realize she has no actual purpose on the team."

But seriously Black Widow on this show always comes off as the person you role-play with on line or as a kid who when they get attack always says "I avoided it" or "It missed me". It gets obnoxious after a while. So I'd welcome Scarlet Witch to come in as a likeable female team member.
TheLemsterPju
said at 1:17 PM on Sun Jan 26 2014
I know a lot of people are going to jump on me for this, but I personally like to believe this is a continuation of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Sort of like how I feel with the Transformers Aligned continuity, it's expanding it's universe with new and interesting ideas, despite some things that don't add up.

I'm not saying it is for a fact, but that's my own personal belief. So please don't give me all these reasons why I shouldn't believe in that because of some blatant contradictions. I shouldn't be afraid to site my opinion on the internet. -_-
TheLemsterPju
said at 7:44 PM on Fri Apr 18 2014
@TheLemsterPju Wow. What an embarrassingly poorly-written comment that has no barring on what my current feelings about an meaningless topic

It's almost like I'm slowly developing past this stage of unprofessional expression. Then again, why would I be posting this?

Oh well. At least I won't get people looking through my history thinking I'm some sensitive nut when I'm famou*ahem* "better known" among the internet community.
MaskedMarvel89
said at 7:56 AM on Sat Jan 25 2014
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All the characters are one of 4 or 5 things in this show...
* A kind, generous, warm-hearted (male) hero, and other things about these characters are told or implied without actually showing them in a cool way. (Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, sometimes Hulk)
* A sarcastic jerk who hates everything. (Hawkeye, Bruce Banner).
* A villain with a rediculously over-the-top plan that reminds me of the 1980's Cobra Commander or Megatron, only these villains speak in a slow, creepy way instead of gloating loudly. (Almost every major villain).
* A thug.
* A female character who does everything right and knows exactly what's going on but won't share it with the others, and is never actually attacked by the bad guys. (Black Widow)

That said, I don't hate this show, but I don't like it either. One thing that I do really like about it is the voice-cast.
GothamRed
said at 9:23 AM on Sat Jan 25 2014
@MaskedMarvel89 So where does falcon fall? The first one?
MaskedMarvel89
said at 6:09 PM on Sat Jan 25 2014
@GothamRed Falcon is somewhere between the first one and the 4th one, simply because he seems to be the Avengers' minion/ sidekick.
MaskedMarvel89
said at 10:28 AM on Sun Jan 26 2014
Despite this, Falcon may have to be my favorite character in the show since he's the only one who has traces of a personality, even though he's only used to try to force the watchers to laugh (and usually failing)(and still to be a minion/ sidekick).
TheLemsterPju
said at 10:35 AM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@MaskedMarvel89

"even though he's only used to try to force the watchers to laugh"

Not really. He plays a prominent role in the show (as seen in Impossible Man and Ghosts of a Chance), as the eyes and ears of the viewer like Wasp from EMH. To be honest, I find him more tolerable than her IMO.
MaskedMarvel89
said at 10:06 AM on Sat Mar 1 2014
@TheLemsterPju I liked Wasp more than Falcon personally, but I do agree that he's cooler and more prominent now than he was at the start of the series. Of course, that's just my opinion. I do hope this show gets better; it has potential.
GothamRed
said at 5:23 PM on Mon Jan 6 2014
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Though the show isn't awful, one thing that really annoys me about it is the letterboxing that happens during each episode. What's wrong with using the full the screen all the time?
Polyester Funk
said at 12:48 AM on Tue Jan 7 2014
@GothamRed Yeah, that can get a little irritating. "Let's make it letterbox to show something's gonna happen." Just seems forced and unnecessary.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:19 AM on Tue Jan 7 2014
@GothamRed There are good examples of when this "comic book style"-editing *works* in the show. Sometimes there's a dramatic beat or a cool action scene or reveal that is given that extra 'oomf' when it suddenly switches to anamorphic, but then there's times when it's completely unnecessary and superfluous.
GothamRed
said at 9:05 AM on Tue Jan 7 2014
@TylerMirage Even when it's trying to show something it annoys me. It's just wasting like 30% of the screen or more that could be used to give the scene more scope or detail. If the whole show were anamorphic all of the time I may not mind it but the fact that it keeps cutting off large portions of the screen isn't for me.
Polyester Funk
said at 12:00 AM on Mon Jan 6 2014
What's with all the food jokes they do? I know this is made for kids, but it seems every episode has Hulk and/or Hawkeye saying "Who ate my (insert food here)?"
CatsTuxedo (Moderator)
said at 1:06 AM on Mon Jan 6 2014
@Polyester Funk Throwing out a quick guess here, they aren't necessarily joking but attempting to convey that everyone gets the munchies sometimes.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:36 AM on Mon Jan 6 2014
@Polyester Funk It's a simple way of adding a bit of character to them.

It could've been "Who went into my room without permission?!", "Who touched my stuff?!", "Who left their comic books on the floor?! I stepped on 'em!" or "Who took the remote?!" or any number of comments made. Really anything that shows that these larger-than-life superhero characters are still real people who suffer from silly real people problems of living with others.

If they all got along perfectly, it'd be boring. Granted, they don't have to be jerks to each other all of the time, but I really like the "dysfunctional family"-aspect they're going for here. In this case, most of it happens to be about food. Which, since a lot of these scenes have to do with the Hulk, I love. The Hulk's a monstrous power source - he needs to eat. ;)
Polyester Funk
said at 12:47 AM on Tue Jan 7 2014
@TylerMirage Yeah, that's true the Hulk would have to eat a lot I assume. And it's also true that they are showing them as real people with real problems.

Maybe it would come off a bit better if they didn't bicker quite as much during the other stuff, but then got home and the stress of living and working together took its toll.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:17 AM on Tue Jan 7 2014
@Polyester Funk I agree. Their bickering about food would have much more of its desired effect...if they weren't generally jerks to each other ALL of the time anyway, ha ha.
TheLemsterPju
said at 2:51 PM on Thu Jan 2 2014
The philtrums they added on the faces really make the character models look ghoulishly ugly.

Sorta like with the extra detail in the teeth and mouths in Hulk and the Agents of SMASH. It's distracting.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 11:00 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
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Cap looks really weird here. O_O
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:05 AM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight That is one of the few good headshots (in the daylight) that I could find so far. And that's bad, considering the show has been on for 14 episodes...
MaskedMarvel89
said at 6:14 PM on Sat Jan 25 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Suspiciously, I think I saw Red Skull in the exact same posion and same look as Cap, too. And, I'm pretty sure it was in the same episode. I think they might be reusing layouts to spare time.
Regomania
said at 2:34 PM on Fri Dec 13 2013
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I mainly watch it because I like the avengers. Sure, it has some flaws, but I just push them aside and watch it as mindless fun.
Spider-Fox
said at 10:26 PM on Thu Dec 12 2013
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Been watching a few episodes of Assemble and I gotta say; 5/10-Average

It doesn't make me angry like Ultimate Spider-Man and I like more than 1 character, who still feels a little OOC none the less like Agents of SMASH. I has mostly solid voice acting, stories on par with (though slightly more underwhelming than) a standard 90s Saturday morning cartoon (Heck, the animation's on par with Spider-Man the animated series anyway).

Probably the best Marvel show out there right now really.
Ross123
said at 10:54 AM on Sat Nov 23 2013
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I haven't even seen the show but I do watch Ultimate Spiderman (unfortunately) and they're about to tie in soon. So I'm asking whether or not I should consider watching it & is it any good???
GothamRed
said at 11:23 AM on Sat Nov 23 2013
@Ross123 It's okay, it's no A:EMH
Ross123
said at 11:27 AM on Sat Nov 23 2013
@GothamRed well I suppose it is worth a watch. I'll decide after I at least see 2-3 episodes.
TheLemsterPju
said at 10:31 AM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@Ross123

For one thing, I didn't mean to Shout Out your comment. I was trying to reply and accidentally pressed the wrong button.

Bringing back an earlier topic, I notice you said you "unfortunately" watch Ultimate Spider-Man. This goes hand in hand with that conversation with TylerMirage over the negativity towards Drake Bell. I'll say it again, if you do like the show, don't feel ashamed. Don't try to be negative just for attention.
Ross123
said at 10:37 AM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@TheLemsterPju Don't worry about the Shout Out, it's fine but thanks for letting me know anyway.

Did you check you're reply box or the Ultimate Spiderman page. I replyed to your questions there.
Ross123
said at 10:03 AM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@TheLemsterPju Considering you don't have anything to say about the answers I gave you (nor sure if you've seen them or not) so I might as well answer this one.

1. First things first, how can I be ashamed of liking the show when I put in my favourites for people to see. If I was ashamed then it wouldn't be there.

2. I 'm not looking for attention, if you have read the comments on the Ultimate Spiderman when I answered you're questions the 1st time. You'll see why I got involved with the negativity towards Drake Bell, in which case I was defending him if you read it properly.

3. The reason why I used "unfortunately" here is because the show itself has bad material. I like and watch it simply because it's Spiderman & like the action. The material is what's making Drake sound bad (read comments on Ultimate Spiderman page for more details). I'm proud to admit I watch it (even with awful material) but the word "unfortunately" also comes into the fact that the show itself gets negativity from other users. As much as I'm proud to admit I like the show, it's bad knowing that people rant about it but I'm easy going.

4. Part of me still misses and still can't get over Spectacular getting cancelled.

Well there you have it, anything you don't understand just let me know.
TheLemsterPju
said at 2:41 PM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@Ross123

I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Ross123
said at 4:15 PM on Thu Jan 2 2014
@TheLemsterPju No worries.
Metabad
said at 3:10 PM on Mon Oct 28 2013
So...

is this better or worse than United they Stand?
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 3:17 PM on Mon Oct 28 2013
@Metabad So much better
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:21 PM on Mon Oct 28 2013
@Metabad I think my brain has actively tried to purge out any memory of UTS. I haven't really seen more than a few minutes of this show, but I haven't tried to mind wipe myself so I guess AA wins.
DravenRoth994
said at 10:32 PM on Fri Oct 18 2013
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So after hearing the premise for the next episode which involves the Impossible Man making Falcon the star of an action movie, I'm starting to REALLY consider giving up on this show for good. No offense to the Impossible Man or the people who like the sound of that, but to me it sounds,in the nicest way possible, dumb.
DravenRoth994
said at 7:10 PM on Sun Oct 27 2013
@DravenRoth994 So I decided to watch it after all. You can read my views on it in the forums, but like I said there, I don't know why I keep bothering. Aside from a few moments with Impossible Man, the episode was just boring and by the time the episode ended, I didn't care anymore. I NEVER had that feeling with Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
Xymor
said at 3:29 PM on Thu Oct 31 2013
I agree completly the episode was dumb,boring and predicteble.But at least i got to see Tom Kenny as Impossible man,witch almost made the episode worth it,key word beign almost.
Troodon2
said at 9:34 PM on Fri Nov 1 2013
@DravenRoth994 Full blame, goes to Joe Quesada, he was never involved with EMH nor Spectacular Spider-Man, but here he is. And why JQ... Remember One More Day?!
Madness Abe
said at 9:01 AM on Mon Oct 14 2013
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You know how much this show moviepanders? The friggin DVD of this at my local Wal-Mart has the cast in the poses from the Avengers Movie.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 10:01 PM on Mon Oct 14 2013
@Madness Abe If I'm looking at the same DVD cover as you are, it could be worse. At least the poses aren't, like, 100% the movie poses. Composition? Yes. Blatantly the same. But they *did* change up the *poses* slightly.

http://beyondthemarquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/AVG-posters.jpg

However, you're right, the show does A LOT of movie pandering. Personally, I've felt that they've toned it down substantially since the first episodes. The first two episodes were cringe-worthingly movie pandering. >.> Now they just drop a few lines or references here and there.
VctrBnsn
said at 11:15 AM on Mon Oct 21 2013
@TylerMirage Well, the next episode is advertised "THERE WILL BE SHWARMA!!!!".
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:10 AM on Wed Oct 23 2013
@VctrBnsn

This movie reference, I like it! ANOTHER!


...said no-one ever.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 9:22 PM on Fri Oct 25 2013
@VctrBnsn Ugh...
Comicfan117
said at 7:22 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@Madness Abe This is why I like DC more. They are subtle, and don't act like the bratty kid who has the hottest toy in stores.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 7:26 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@Comicfan117 Yeah, I like DC animated more, though their animated series are starting to decline. Their movies on the other hand...
Comicfan117
said at 6:20 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
@UltimateCharm Also, they don't stick with the same cast over and over again.
GothamRed
said at 6:30 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
@Comicfan117 Well except for all the times that they have...
Comicfan117
said at 8:11 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
@GothamRed true
GothamRed
said at 8:59 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
@Comicfan117 And in fairness, Marvel Heroes, a bunch of Motion Comics, and Rise of Technovore came out this year and had different voice casts from the Loebverse actors (minus Troy Baker as Hawkeye in the latter)
Comicfan117
said at 6:49 PM on Mon Jan 20 2014
@GothamRed also Marc Worden as Iron Man, Brian Bloom as Captain America, and Rick D. Wasserman as Thor
DravenRoth994
said at 10:58 PM on Thu Oct 10 2013
While this show as a whole won't get anything higher than a 5-6 from me, I admit I did genuinely enjoy episodes like Hyperion and Hulked Out Heroes. I still think the animation sucks, and the gamma should not have effected Thor, but if they keep up that kind of quality, I might give the show another chance. It still won't top EMH of course.
DravenRoth994
said at 1:05 PM on Fri Oct 11 2013
@DravenRoth994 But if not, then I pretty much give on this show (latter case seems more likely).
Sarge Ray
said at 10:33 AM on Sat Sep 28 2013
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Great. I don't hear of episodes for weeks (months maybe) and then more turn up. WHY did they have to build up my hopes of it being cancelled before it reached double-digits?
DravenRoth994
said at 10:40 PM on Thu Sep 26 2013
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Another thing I forgot to mention, EMH at its worst (Powerless in particular, you could literally skip it and it wouldn't make a difference.) is still better than this one at its "best". Off topic but didn't Thor already learn humility over the course of EMH, why would he need to learn it again? You could say that's either Aesop Amnesia or just BAD BAD writing.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 7:17 PM on Wed Oct 2 2013
@DravenRoth994 That's the point where Jeph Loeb was involved as Executive Producer. Let that sink in.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:06 PM on Fri Oct 4 2013
@UltimateCharm I'm well aware of that, and BOY does it show. However, while I have only 3 episodes left to watch, I actually kind of liked some the last 12 episodes. Granted they don't top Season 1 or early Season 2, but they have their moments. But because of these episodes and the shows cancellation, several story and character arcs were left unsolved by the end. I would have liked to see them face Surtur.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:08 PM on Fri Oct 4 2013
@UltimateCharm "Some of the last".
pete
said at 7:50 PM on Thu Oct 10 2013
@DravenRoth994 This sow actually doesn't follow EMH.
DravenRoth994
said at 10:48 PM on Thu Oct 10 2013
@pete I'm aware, I'm just pointing out some of the things that show did that this one doesn't.
pete
said at 11:20 AM on Sat Oct 12 2013
@pete *show
Troodon2
said at 9:36 PM on Fri Nov 1 2013
@UltimateCharm As I stated, I blame Joe Quesada.
DravenRoth994
said at 9:36 PM on Tue Sep 17 2013
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While I don't hate this show, at no point will I say I love it either. While it has it moments and is arguably the best of the three current Marvel shows(No fourth wall breaking or reality TV bs), I am not very fond of the art style and animation. It's like everyone says, the characters can be in BROAD DAYLIGHT and still be backlit. People may hate on EMH art style but at least that was unique and moved more fluidly. The writing is also a problem. EMH had way better story telling than this. With that, the Avengers had nice introductions, we learn of their struggles, their reasons for joining the team and what they over come. Here, they throw several characters and elements at us without any proper build up. It doesn't help that aside from Cap and maybe Falcon, every "hero" on the show is a douche. Seriously, how can I sympathize with these characters when they make jokes at the worst of times(when they thought Cap was dead for example) In one episode, I was actually siding more with the "Villian" Molecule Kid more than the "heroes" While I admit I am still pissed that EMH was cancelled, I will give the show this, It's not Ultimate Spiderman, the writing has improved since the first 3-4 episodes, and has a pretty good voice cast. Overall, compared to EMH, I just find it........dull.
DravenRoth994
said at 10:09 AM on Mon Nov 18 2013
@DravenRoth994 As of episode 13, I am officially done with the show. If anyone else likes it, that's fine but I'm sticking with EMH reruns from now on.

"That is a very big head" LOL
DravenRoth994
said at 10:53 PM on Sat Jan 11 2014
@DravenRoth994 Now I admit, I only decided to watch Planet Doom when I found out Bruce Banner was FINALLY in it, however, it was probably the best episode the show has done so far. The plot was engaging and the concept behind it was outstanding. Sadly, the ending served to remind me why I decided to quit watching in the first place. The first problem being that due to the shows self-contained format, certain parts of the episode felt a little rushed to me. This could have at least been a two parter for them to expand certain parts of the episode, like Thor's argument with his father Odin for example. He just came and went. Second, the moment we get back to the "normal" universe, we find the other members of the team arguing, AGAIN!!!!!! I understand that it would be boring if they were all chummy at the beginning but would it kill these ***hats to say "Great job everyone" or "How's everyone's day going?" once in a while? It doesn't help that The Avengers were jerks to each other then(Episode 1), and they STILL ARE NOW(Episode 14)!!!!! That's just me though, if the main characters in a story aren't very likable, then I just tune out, I have made some exceptions though like Good Fellas(I actually enjoyed it even if I despised the main characters and didn't care if any of them died), and End of Watch(The main characters weren't very likable there either but this time I was quite saddened by the ending). Overall, unless they tone down the character's attitudes, I'm literally done for good, but everyone else, enjoy. :)
VctrBnsn
said at 8:27 AM on Tue Sep 17 2013
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I was severely disappointed in the lack of Namor in the newest episode.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 7:46 AM on Fri Sep 20 2013
@VctrBnsn I was probably more disappointed in the lack of "dealing with a Hulk that appears to have actually lost control and gone savage". Perfect multi-episode storyline right there. But nope. Give him a few seconds to cool off and everything's hunky-dory!
VctrBnsn
said at 7:50 AM on Fri Sep 20 2013
@TylerMirage Yeah, this episode was a bit underwhelming. But this weeks new one seems promising. We finally get some Loki, and some more Doctor Doom after his supposed damnation.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:59 AM on Mon Sep 23 2013
@VctrBnsn Can't wait to see this new episode!
pete
said at 7:52 PM on Thu Oct 10 2013
@VctrBnsn Maybe Attmua overthew him and threw him in prison or exiled him. He may show up in USM or another episode and reclaim the throne. Just a guess.
VctrBnsn
said at 6:45 AM on Fri Oct 11 2013
@pete I was thinking the same thing. I hope he appears though. It's like Ocean Master attacking the Justice League but no Aquaman.
Xymor
said at 10:12 AM on Fri Sep 13 2013
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the show overall is just flat to me,i find it boring,cliche,unintresting,dull characters,to put it simply everything that made EMH so great,this show screws it up,ad this to Ultimate spiderman and you can see that under Disneys control the marvel univers is becoming another cash-grabing,for kids only,half assed franchise

As for the cast,its a mixed bag
Adrian Pasdar is ....okay as Iron man
Roger Craig Smith and Troy Baker i think are perfect for Captain America and Hawkeye
Luckily Fred Tatasciore return as Hulk
I dont like Travis Willingams Thor,his to over the top and sounds like a parody of a opera singer
Lura Bailey as Black Widow just sounds dull and bored out of her mind.
Liam O Brien is a decent Red Skull,but he sound kind of generic,but considering that this show is just an advertisment for the marvel cinematic univers,he s probably forced to just imitate Hugo Weaving and not to give it his own take
Charlie Adler is suprisinlgy good as MODOK,he souns very creepy
Corey Burton and Kevin M Richardson were spot on as Dracula and Ulik
VctrBnsn
said at 10:13 AM on Sat Sep 14 2013
@Xymor Don't blame Disney. Even if they hadn't bought Marvel this would happen. It's the current headship of Marvel Animation. Plus, EMH was made under Disney's watch and it turned out great. Plus, without Disney the Avengers film may not have even happened.
Jackson_H (Admin)
said at 3:35 PM on Mon Aug 12 2013
So the most recent episode had a flashback with EMH animation...

I thought this was a reboot/separate show or is Marvel now trying to say it's actually a sequel?

I hope not. Besides opening up a lot of plot holes it also rubs salt in the wound that the EMH voice cast could've returned.

Or maybe I'm overthinking this. Maybe that scene was just unused EMH footage and Marvel is no stranger to being cheap
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 6:57 PM on Tue Aug 13 2013
@Jackson_H I think it was just a nod to the series
GothamRed
said at 11:07 PM on Wed Aug 14 2013
@Jackson_H I think marvel said it was going to be a sequel when fans got upset that this was going to replace EMH.
partymonster411
said at 8:12 PM on Thu Aug 15 2013
@Jackson_H think of it like Gargoyles the Goliath Chronicles; studios say it is a sequel but everybody with common sense knows its not and just a forced sequel that isn't canon
VctrBnsn
said at 1:46 PM on Mon Jul 8 2013
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Saw the new episode. THERE'S STILL NO LIGHT!!!!
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:31 PM on Fri Jul 26 2013
@VctrBnsn It's like all of the shots are oriented so that any light source is BEHIND them. Seriously, they're backlit in like, 99% of the episode - a small outline of light along the edges of their body, while the front of them is kept in darkness.
VctrBnsn
said at 10:26 PM on Fri Jul 26 2013
@TylerMirage The episode with Dracula certainly didn't help. No surprise there.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:27 PM on Sun Jul 28 2013
@VctrBnsn There's only been five episodes, and I'm pretty sure that with each new episode I update several character images because I'm like "Oh look, there's like, 10% more light in this shot!", ha ha.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 3:33 PM on Sun Jul 28 2013
Even in the pictures with characters in daylight they're still shadowed over. Wait.... I'VE GOT IT! Loeb is actually a vampire! It all makes sense!
Fulgore2005
said at 6:46 PM on Mon Jul 29 2013
@Nightmare Crusher I don't think there's anything Loeb wouldn't do if he thought it would screw up something.
TheLemsterPju
said at 7:02 PM on Wed Jul 31 2013
@Fulgore2005 Despite his greatly-varied quality of writing (you can't deny the man has put out some good work in the past and today with his Nova run) he's still a really nice guy. I may not agree with some of his decisions but I don't its right to judge a person by their writing style.
Fulgore2005
said at 5:48 AM on Fri Aug 2 2013
@TheLemsterPju Well, I personally agree that the comment was a bit much, but it wasn't under any intention to demean Loeb. I, for one, liked his early work. But I just don't think his recent material has been impressive. I do get you are coming from.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 7:33 AM on Wed Aug 14 2013
@VctrBnsn Shots of characters that should be bathed in light...still backlit somehow...
Spider-Fox
said at 12:32 AM on Sun Jun 2 2013
I saw the premiere and, it didn't make me want to strangle someone (coughLoebcough) but that's really the best thing I could say about it.
To be brief
Pros-Overall good if (for lack of a better word) weak voice acting from many vet VAs, interesting art style and character designs (mostly) and a genuinely good moment between Hulk and Thor as the reminisce in the training room.
Cons-Movie pandering and by extension the team is a sausage fest, Widow isn't really fleshed out, Adrian Pasdar, blowing up Avengers Mansion in favor of Jet Stark Tower and TERRIBLE PACING.
Overall not terrible but from a first episodes perspective, pales compared to EMH.
pokemastanumba1
said at 10:30 PM on Tue May 28 2013
Well, I'm not quite impressed with the premiere, but at least it's off to a decent start. The voice cast is pretty well-rounded and seems to work out fine (aside from Adrian Pasdar and maybe Laura Bailey), and while Red Skull's design is questionable at best, it's quite a change of pace to see him working with MODOK.

Overall, I wasn't at all floored with AA, but it does show some promise. I suppose I'll tune in to a few more episodes and see how it works out.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 1:43 AM on Wed May 29 2013
@pokemastanumba1 Why the hell would Red Skull work alongside MODOK? That's like Darkseid assigning Crazy Quilt to rule Apokolips during his absence.
pokemastanumba1
said at 8:35 PM on Wed May 29 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Now that you put that away, it does seem pretty out-of-context when compared to the comics and other Marvel TMGs, but I suppose that, even the strangest couples can make the best of friends. *wisemanimpersonation*
pokemastanumba1
said at 8:45 PM on Wed May 29 2013
*Now that you put it that way
VctrBnsn
said at 1:38 PM on Mon Jun 3 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Red Skull and MODOK working together is a bit strange, but it' not Darkseid and Crazy Quilt bad. If Galactus enlisted the help of Ringmaster, then that would be bad.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 11:49 PM on Mon Jun 3 2013
@VctrBnsn Polka-Dot Man? :-P
Comicfan117
said at 7:26 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Most super villains hate the Red Skull
mrdoomsday
said at 9:26 AM on Mon May 27 2013
The show has potential. But the voice acting is pretty bad when compared to other Marvel shows.
SparklyShake12
said at 9:55 PM on Sun May 26 2013
Actually, I was really wrong. It's not half bad. It'll take a little bit to get used to the voice cast, but they're nowhere near as awful as I thought they would be.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 12:01 AM on Sun May 26 2013
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Yeesh, somebody turn the lights on!
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:33 AM on Wed May 29 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight I know, right? When I was getting images of the characters, I kept waiting for a well-lit scene. ... And waiting. ... And waiting. Hopefully I can update most of them as future episodes air (with any luck, they'll have scenes in like, Stark Tower with the windows open or a bright, sunny day).
pokemastanumba1
said at 8:30 PM on Wed May 29 2013
Indeed, the shading is another nitpick I have about this show. In TAEMH, even scenes that take place in the dark/at night have enough contrast between the characters and the background.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:38 AM on Thu May 30 2013
"The Avengers was never about 'dark,' [...] Avengers are the bright, shining heroes. They're the guys who, when they arrive, you say 'We're SAVED!' Colorful costumes, larger than life, we wanted to do something fun, a comic book brought to the screen." - Chris Yost

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheAlexLynch/news/?a=70470

I'M JUST SAYING.
Fulgore2005
said at 11:16 AM on Sat May 25 2013
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Adrian Pasdar as Iron Man again?! I swear Marvel is just pushing him so everyone can notice he voiced the character.
Comicfan117
said at 7:26 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@Fulgore2005 Marvel: They're treating us like infants
Torak
said at 8:20 AM on Thu May 23 2013
Not a big fan of the animation, but the voice cast looks good though I've heard mixed opinions about them, kinda depends on the writing for me.
Guess I'll have to watch it for myself.
GothamRed
said at 7:43 PM on Wed May 22 2013
Troy did better at Clint this time around, but I still like Chris Cox's take on Hakweye better, it had more energy. Honestly I don't even think they're even pretending Black Widow is Russian anymore. You can explain away the lack of accent however you like, some people just sound better with an accent than without. It makes her more distinct, and Laura, while not bad, is a very generic sounding Widow.
GothamRed
said at 7:48 PM on Wed May 22 2013
@GothamRed Also Thor's hair is REALLY Blonde, like verging on striaght white level blonde. It was kind of distracting when his helmet was off.
pete
said at 5:13 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@GothamRed Evidentally Black Widow has been established as not having an accent.
GothamRed
said at 5:19 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@pete It goes back and forth, but like I said some characters just sound better with an accent then without.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:22 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@GothamRed Why would a spy have an accent?
VctrBnsn
said at 10:40 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight You make a good point. but one thing I did like about Vanessa Marshall's performance as the character was when she changed her accent depending on who she was talking too. Plus BTW, even when she had no accent, her voice was still distinctive. Sadly, I can't say that about Laura Baily's take on Widow. I feel horrible saying that cause she truly is a great talent.
GothamRed
said at 1:56 AM on Fri May 24 2013
@VctrBnsn That was my feeling towards her.
GothamRed
said at 1:57 AM on Fri May 24 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight I'm not necessarily saying she logically should my point was she sounds better with one than without. Some characters just work better with accents than without, even if you can make arguments for why they shouldn't have one like with emma frost and storm. Black Widow is the same way.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:13 AM on Fri May 24 2013
You all know that it's impossible to speak without using some sort of accent, right?
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 6:14 PM on Fri May 24 2013
@NCZ Ha. Ha.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:53 PM on Wed May 22 2013
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Ew, Red Skull looks weird. Or is it just me?
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:01 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@Nightmare Crusher What looks weird about him, if I may ask? I think his design is cool, because it evokes the live-action Red Skull design (mostly in the protruding cheek-bones).
Nightmare Crusher
said at 4:02 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@TylerMirage I think his chin looks like it was stuck onto his face rather than being a part of it. I also can't seem to shake the feeling that his neck is disproportionate. I also don't think he resembles Hugo Weaving's skull, looking at the other pictures on the site just about every incarnation has very prominent cheek-bones. Actually, I think this Red Skull's cheek-bones stick out too much.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:29 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@Nightmare Crusher I think I said I think a little too much in that comment.... I think.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:22 PM on Thu May 23 2013
@Nightmare Crusher Agreed, Skull looks terrible.
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 12:36 AM on Wed May 29 2013
@Nightmare Crusher I do agree that he's got a strangely beefed-up neck (HULK'S NECK IS BIGGEST THERE IS!). None of the other incarnations of Skull have cheek bones that are *that* prominent, though, a feature that the live-action version seemed to explore more. And apparently, they stick out too much. ;)
spike32
said at 12:25 PM on Wed May 22 2013
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I should also mention Liam O'Brien does a good Red Skull. Charlie Adler does a good MODOK. And David Kaye does a fine Jarvis.
spike32
said at 12:37 AM on Wed May 22 2013
Now that I know this is Man of Action I knew what to expect watching the first episode. I haven't watched EMH yet for some reason so I can't compare, but on it's own, it's not that bad, I actually want to know whats going to happen next. The jokes are lame sometimes, classic Man of Action jokes pretty much. For me, series like Ben 10 and Generator Rex took me a while to get into, I'm sure it'll be no different with this show.

Roger does a great Cap, as expected, Pasdar sucks, Travis is a good Thor as expected, Troy is good, though for some reason I keep expecting to hear Crispin Freeman, probably from watching Young Justice. Fred is obv good as Hulk, and Laura didn't put on the accent, guess they didn't want her to, but it's hard to judge on her performance since Black Widow didn't do much this episode.
Madness Abe
said at 6:28 PM on Tue May 21 2013
I don't think Pasdar is bad as Tony Stark or Iron Man, but I feel Marvel is pushing his face into us a bit TOO much.
VctrBnsn
said at 10:27 PM on Tue May 21 2013
@Madness Abe It doesn't have to be the same guy every time Marvel. Let some other people have a chance.

At least they got a different guy for the Rise of Technovore film.
WWEFAN12ization
said at 5:32 PM on Tue May 21 2013
I saw the episode and believe or not it was actually petty good. Not as good as EMH but still entertaining.
D.A.V.E.
said at 4:08 PM on Tue May 21 2013
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I saw the first episode once on iTunes.

It was awful.
VctrBnsn
said at 4:40 PM on Tue May 21 2013
@D.A.V.E. It was really that bad? What made it so bad?
D.A.V.E.
said at 5:27 PM on Tue May 21 2013
@VctrBnsn Mediocre, bored voice acting, specially Tony Stark; bland art designs; horrible, stilted, and cheap animation; lots of pandering to the movies; plot was full of cheesy cliches played straight; very rushed pacing, with many events going on too fast; characters are unlikable jerks in an attempt to evoke the relationships to the movie; Black Widow is as isolated as possible, making the Avengers feel like a Boy's Club, and so much more.
VctrBnsn
said at 6:24 PM on Tue May 21 2013
@D.A.V.E. I'll take your word for it. That was everything I was afraid this series would do, and it fulfilled.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 3:42 AM on Wed May 22 2013
@D.A.V.E. I friggin' knew it.
Torak
said at 8:15 AM on Wed May 22 2013
@D.A.V.E. Lazy writers being lazy. :/
Fulgore2005
said at 11:18 AM on Sat May 25 2013
@D.A.V.E. Oh dear. Seems like Marvel's animation work is starting to tank badly IMO.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 11:49 PM on Sun Jun 9 2013
@Fulgore2005 Starting? The tanking has been underway for about a year. ;-P
Fulgore2005
said at 4:40 PM on Mon Jun 10 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Id forgotten USM was made a year ago, with it still being on the TV.
pokemastanumba1
said at 4:49 PM on Tue Jun 11 2013
Just a year? I thought that Marvel was already going downhill since Wolverine & the X-Men got cancelled back in 2009. :(
Fulgore2005
said at 12:14 PM on Wed Jun 12 2013
@pokemastanumba1 Shows how I'm with the times of Marvel's animation work...
Fulgore2005
said at 12:50 PM on Wed Jun 12 2013
@Fulgore2005 Well, in terms of dates anyway.
Spider-Fox
said at 8:09 PM on Sun May 19 2013
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Well just saw a commercial and I have to say;
1) STOP WITH THE MOVIE PANDERING!
2) The "Smurfette Principle" (tvtropes)of the show still bothers me. Where are Scarlet Witch and Wasp?
3) I'll give Pasdar this much. He sounds like he gives a s*** this time around.
4) OH MY GOD HULK CAN SPEAK COMPLETE SENTANCES!
My hopes for this show just went from "Look its the 'Superior' Avengers" to "Please dear GOD do not screw this up beyond Pasdar returning as Iron Man!"
Madness Abe
said at 6:42 PM on Fri May 31 2013
@Spider-Fox But Hulk spoke full sentences in EMH too.
Spider-Fox
said at 11:58 PM on Sat Jun 1 2013
@Madness Abe I'm actually praising the fact that that carried over. I full well expected them to be revert to "Hulk back to being smart like 5 year old".
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:14 PM on Thu May 16 2013
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I've only been able to find a couple of previews for this that are less than a minute. From what I can gather, Adrian's Iron Man is awful and that's it. Also, movie pandering.
SparklyShake12
said at 4:20 AM on Tue May 14 2013
Ya' know, I didn't mind the casting of Pasdar at first, but the more I think about it, the more scared I'm becoming. I personally thought he was great as Tony in the Iron Man anime, but only for that incarnation. I actually think he would've made a good Hawkeye, based on his SHS clips, his tone is the perfect fit for Clint IMO.

I'll give it a chance, but my expectations are extremely low.
TheAtticus
said at 5:12 PM on Sat Mar 9 2013
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I'm gonna miss Eric Loomis.
UltimateSSJ4GokouEX
said at 9:42 AM on Wed May 22 2013
@TheAtticus Was they're reason why he didn't come back to return to do the role of Iron Man?
Comicfan117
said at 7:30 PM on Wed Jan 1 2014
@UltimateSSJ4GokouEX Well he'd be in this show
pete
said at 12:23 AM on Tue Feb 26 2013
Apparently Falcon will be breaking the 4th wall.
coolgeek176
said at 3:15 PM on Tue Feb 26 2013
@pete If he does then this show seems to be more like Ultimate Spider-man. I think it should try to be less like Ultimate Spider-man.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:47 PM on Tue Feb 26 2013
@pete If that happens I'm not even gonna watch it. -_-
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:42 PM on Thu May 9 2013
@pete HATE! ALL OF MY SEARING, BURNING HATE! *sobs*
PurpleWarrior13
said at 5:13 PM on Sun Jan 6 2013
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I know this show will probably turn out to be a disappointment, but I'm looking forward to hearing this cast.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 7:06 AM on Sun Jan 13 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 Considering it's following AEMH, it's probably gonna disappoint anyway. Let's just hope it's not a HUGE disappointment like USM was.
PurpleWarrior13
said at 3:35 AM on Sun Feb 24 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Not gonna lie, I'd tune in just to hear Laura Bailey. :P This actually is a very stellar cast.
pete
said at 12:22 AM on Tue Feb 26 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 They were on USM already.
pete
said at 12:22 AM on Tue Feb 26 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 Most of them anyway.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 6:14 AM on Sun Dec 23 2012
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Sup, true believers? We heard you liked media adaptations, so we made a media adaptation of a media adaptation! :-P
D.A.V.E.
said at 4:57 PM on Thu May 16 2013
@TheVengeanceKnight Good god, the newest commercials are so full of shameless movie pandering.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:32 AM on Sun May 19 2013
@D.A.V.E. I heard. -_-
Comicfan117
said at 6:30 PM on Sun Jan 5 2014
@TheVengeanceKnight Actually it goes like: Yo dawg! We heard you liked media adaptions, so we made a media adaption of a media adaption. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that guy actually works form Marvel
mweloo
said at 3:29 AM on Sun Dec 23 2012
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Both the voice cast and animation look awesome... I hope the writing is up to standards as well.
CLG
said at 6:39 PM on Sat Nov 24 2012
yay
coolgeek176
said at 10:57 AM on Mon Dec 24 2012
@CLG Why did you say yay?
CLG
said at 3:21 PM on Sun Feb 24 2013
@coolgeek176
I was being sarcastic.
BlackWolf219
said at 7:06 AM on Tue Nov 6 2012
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Not to keep nit-picking, but the fact that this won't have any story arc whatsoever is another I'm iffy about this show. Contained story episodes are good for building character, but they shouldn't be what an entire show based on a comic book is about.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 10:24 PM on Thu Nov 8 2012
@BlackWolf219 I don't blame you. One of the good things about A:EMH are the story arcs that build to bigger things. Of course, what else can you expect from "famed" executive producer and comic book writer, Jeph Loeb, who's shoddy record speaks for itself.
BlackWolf219
said at 4:28 PM on Mon Nov 12 2012
@UltimateCharm He mentioned something about kids being unable to follow serialized television programs. Which begs the question: What are reruns for again?
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 6:19 PM on Mon Nov 12 2012
@BlackWolf219 Yeah, and kids could just download those episodes off iTunes or look it up online. But hey, what am I saying. We have no right to complain about the decisions made by the Almighty executive producer Jeph Loeb. We should be using "Jeph Loeb logic" where to sell a comic is to have lame "Mary Sue" characters, gore porn, plot holes, stupid moments, etc. and all you need for a cartoon are childish moments and stupid characters, because, hey, kids are stupid and we should treat them as such
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:53 PM on Sat Nov 17 2012
@UltimateCharm You're implying Loeb has any logic left to begin with. :-P
BlackWolf219
said at 5:52 PM on Fri Oct 26 2012
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After giving it some thought, here is my opinion on the casting.

Adrian Pasdar as Iron Man- Honestly not the best choice for the character. His voice just doesn't fit him. Why he was even cast in the first place is beyond me.

Travis Willingham as Thor- He's not that bad and might even be better than Rick D. Wasserman.

Roger Craig Smith as Captain America- Admittedly a great casting choice. He captues both Chris Evans and Brian Bloom and I agree with Music Meister that he might be the best voice for Cap yet.

Fred Tatasciore as the Hulk- As usual, Fred is the best option for the Hulk as there are few who can match the rage he puts into the role.

Laura Bailey as Black Widow- I'll wait and see.

Troy Baker as Hawkeye- A suitable replacement for Chris Cox. He'll definitely be able to give Hawkeye that smartass attitude we know and love him for.

Bumper Robinson as Falcon- A good choice considering Falcon is supposed to be younger in this version. I never really liked Lance Riddick as Falcon. Something about his voice just didn't fit to me.

Well, those are my thoughts, what are yours?
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 8:55 PM on Sat Oct 27 2012
@BlackWolf219 If you're interested in hearing Laura Bailey as Black Widow, here she is in Marvel Super Hero Squad Online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o5hwPIa_TQ
BlackWolf219
said at 12:22 PM on Sun Oct 28 2012
@UltimateCharm Thanks. Sounds like a pretty good Russian accent. Depending on the material, we'll see how well she works in the role.
BlackWolf219
said at 4:27 PM on Tue Oct 30 2012
@BlackWolf219 The animation is pretty nice although I never understood why people hated the animation in EMH. I especially liked Black Panther's look.
pete
said at 4:02 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@BlackWolf219 People hated it? *gasp
BlackWolf219
said at 7:00 AM on Tue Nov 6 2012
@pete I'll admit Iron Man's design looked a little weird sometimes but after a while, I got into it. Black Panther's was the most interesting design I've seen in a while animation wise.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:08 AM on Tue Nov 6 2012
@BlackWolf219

Iron Man looked better in Season 2, and Cap was good whenever he wasn't wearing the light blue for a portion of Season 2. Wasp was awesome, adorable, cute, pretty...you get the idea. :-P
Spider-Fox
said at 12:50 AM on Sun Oct 21 2012
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Cast looks pretty good. (Not a big fan of Pasdar's Iron Man though) I just hope this series is better than Ultim... a certain other show...
pete
said at 3:59 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@Spider-Fox For some reason he's the unofficial voice of Iron Man nowadays.
coolgeek176
said at 8:55 PM on Fri Oct 19 2012
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The voice cast looks good, except for Adrian Pasdar as Iron Man. I also don't like Hawkeye's design in this series.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 1:55 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@coolgeek176 Yeah, I miss the classic purple Hawkeye costume. What's next; stripping the red, white, and blue from Captain America? :-P
Spider-Fox
said at 12:49 AM on Sun Oct 21 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight I honestly thought Hawkeye's classic costume was kind of silly. (He could get away with it but silly is silly.) Granted, my Hawkeye would have a Ryu Hayabusa style mask so I don't think I have a right to talk about silly.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:46 AM on Sun Oct 21 2012
@Spider-Fox You spelled "iconic" wrong. :-P
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 6:27 AM on Thu Oct 25 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight I think there's a big difference in that example though. Captain America wouldn't be Captain America *without* the red, white and blue. That is undeniably part of his character, I agree. But having a purple kilt, horned mask and one sleeve isn't really as much of Hawkeye's character. It's just his traditional costume design. Hawkeye is all about the aim, the precision, the bow-and-arrow. *That* is what he's about. Taking away Hawkeye's skills and weapons would be more akin to Captain America's American colours.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 6:35 AM on Thu Oct 25 2012
@TylerMirage You mean like giving him a high-tech and modern compound bow rather than a traditional recurve one? :-P
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 7:16 PM on Thu Oct 25 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight Ha ha, not quite. He still *has* his bow and arrow. The technology with which said bow and arrow works is, again, not part of his character. Tony's suit is updated, Barton's bow and arrow can be too.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 4:58 AM on Fri Oct 26 2012
@TylerMirage

Not to drag this on any further, but I disagree.

The fact that Hawkeye prefers a recurve bow over the superior compound bow shows that it's not the bow that makes a skilled archer, it's the archer itself. A novice armed with guns can be beaten by a master wielding only a pebble. Give him a compound bow and all that character is thrown out of the toilet. All this in a movie where a major theme is about staying old-fashioned, no less. :-P
TylerMirage (Admin)
said at 8:05 PM on Fri Oct 26 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight "it's not the bow that makes a skilled archer, it's the archer itself." So... what you're saying is that it's not the weapon that makes the character, it's the character himself? Which is exactly what I've been saying. :) It's not the outfit that makes the character, it's not the clothes he wears or the specific type of weapon he uses: IT'S. THE. CHARACTER. THEMSELVES. Hawkeye is a skilled archer regardless of model of bow and arrow. Again, if Hawkeye were to lose his classic bow and arrow and have to use a different kind of bow and arrow, he'd still be Hawkeye. Cap's outfit is a large part of his character, yes, but a purple kilt *isnt'* part of Hawkeye's.

And what movie's theme is "staying old-fashioned"? You lost me on that.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 3:19 AM on Sat Oct 27 2012
@TylerMirage

Cap: The uniform? Aren't the stars and stripes a little...old fashioned?
Coulson: With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old fashioned.

#CoulsonLives :-P
pete
said at 3:51 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight This is Hawkeye's costume in the Ultimate Universe.
pete
said at 3:53 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight Plus it's his movie look which is what they're going for.
pete
said at 3:58 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@coolgeek176 For some reason he's the unofficial voice of Iron Man nowadays.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 9:28 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@pete I still don't like it.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 8:54 PM on Sat Nov 17 2012
@pete

Considering that they're trying to make this closer to the films, I'm surprised they didn't stick with Eric Loomis, who sounds much closer to RDJ than Adrian Pasdar does.
pete
said at 2:34 AM on Sun Nov 18 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight I said the same thing for the film with Iron Man and Hulk. Either Adrian is the unofficial voice of Iron Man or keeps auditioning before Loomis gets or is picked over him.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:16 AM on Fri Oct 19 2012
 4 Shout Outs! [?]
Voice cast looks promising; hope the writing's just as good.
BlackWolf219
said at 9:36 PM on Wed Oct 17 2012
 1 Shout Out! [?]
My only read complaint is Adrian Pasdar as Iron Man. He's not bad but he's not that great either. I imagine Iron Man having an authorative tone whereas Padar sounds a little young for the role. I'll give this series a chance but considering Marvel's latest track record with their animation, I'll keep my expectations minimum.
pete
said at 4:01 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@BlackWolf219 They shou;dn't replace ANY of the EMH cast if this is a continuataion which is why I think Jeph Loeb is lying about that.
Spider RedNight
said at 11:56 PM on Mon Oct 15 2012
This cast list impresses me. :D
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 11:14 PM on Mon Oct 15 2012
The casting is actually really good...though I'm still mad it's replacing EMH
BlackWolf219
said at 9:34 PM on Wed Oct 17 2012
@Music Meister That's surprising considering you seem to scrutinize DC Animation more than you do Marvel. I'm not trying to poke the bear, that's just how I interpret your opinion of most shows.
Music Meister (Moderator)
said at 9:58 PM on Wed Oct 17 2012
@BlackWolf219 I never scrutinize DC animation, I've complained about bias voters in compares and how I think the voice work in Young Justice meh but nothing negative about shows themselves
BlackWolf219
said at 10:08 PM on Wed Oct 17 2012
@Music Meister I agree about the bias. The voice work is not something I'll remember but you don't seem to find a problem with what Marvel is doing with their shows. I watched 18 episodes of Ultimate Spider-Man and couldn't get into the show.
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 4:52 AM on Thu Oct 18 2012
@Music Meister apparently the executive producers officially announced this will be an evolved series (that will take place after the Avengers movie events) that will take into account all the events of EMH and in essence is a continuation.
BlackWolf219
said at 6:27 AM on Thu Oct 18 2012
@Foxwolf Then how do you explain Black Panther, Mrs. Marvel, Wasp, and Yellowjacket no longer being members if it's a continuation. If they wanted to go off the movie, wouldn't have been simpler to just redesign the characters that way? I'm sure no one would have had any objections to Black Widow being a member of the team.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 4:49 PM on Thu Oct 18 2012
@BlackWolf219 Ah, BlackWolf219, I can answer all your questions with this one simple statement: Jeph Loeb is in charge of this project and he is Marvel's equivalent to M Night Shyamalan.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:13 AM on Fri Oct 19 2012
@UltimateCharm Ding ding ding. :-P
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:16 AM on Fri Oct 19 2012
@BlackWolf219 Someone speculated that there was a 5 year time skip, during which some old members left and new members joined, and everything was different. :-P
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 1:38 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@BlackWolf219 don't shoot the messenger :) I've never actually watched EMH.
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 1:39 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@UltimateCharm haha, that's the best comparison I've heard yet. though you might be giving Loeb too much credit. I mean M Night did make a couple of good movies :P
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 1:41 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@TheVengeanceKnight lol you know despite the frustrating parts due to the timeskip, I overall loved it. Though I'm more interested to see what YJ would be like with the promised Season 3 timeskip. Alas, thanks to CN, we may never find out.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 1:49 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@Foxwolf I liked it too, but someone apparently didn't and made that joke when talking about AEMH and AA supposedly being in the same continuity. :-P
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 1:56 AM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@Music Meister You're beating a dead horse, dude. :-P
BlackWolf219
said at 12:35 PM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@Foxwolf Loeb actually made some good stories too, like The Long Halloween and Public Enemies. Mind you these are DC stories, so whad does that tell you?
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 3:28 PM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@BlackWolf219 That he apparently hates Marvel and all its characters. Or that he's incompetent at writing Marvel's characters, if the reception to his Red Hulk story is any indication. But then again, I found Batman: Hush to be overrated.
UltimateCharm (Moderator)
said at 3:49 PM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@BlackWolf219 Oh and Ultimatum. How did I forget Ultimatum?
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 10:21 PM on Sat Oct 20 2012
@UltimateCharm @BlackWolf219

He actually retired from comics when his son died; it was only after Joe Quesada encouraged him to return and work for Marvel was when his work started to be considered crap.
pete
said at 3:54 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@Foxwolf How can this be in both the movie and EMH universes? I think Loeb said that to avoid haters.
pete
said at 3:56 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@Foxwolf Meant to reply in one comment but what dud you mean thanks to CN will never how Season 3 of YJ will be?
pete
said at 3:58 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@BlackWolf219 Loeb lied. Plain and simple. This is going to be in the same universe as USM.
pete
said at 4:01 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@Music Meister It's supposedly EMH with a new title and voice cast aside from Fred but I don't buy it.
Foxwolf (Admin)
said at 4:10 PM on Fri Nov 2 2012
@pete it was the producers of the show, not Loeb who aid it.

As for YJ, it's all speculation and rumor at the moment but with production of YJ season 2 basically complete and the hiatus of DC Nation and supposed ratings of YJ not being as high as CN's other shows, it's unlikely that season 3 will be greenlit.
BlackWolf219
said at 6:56 AM on Tue Nov 6 2012
@Music Meister And couldn't the same be said about the Compares for Earth's Mightiest Heroes? Some of the performances are fantastic but not all great, as you yourself have pointed out.
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 5:26 AM on Tue Nov 20 2012
@pete Isn't it obvious? There was a 5 year time skip, during which some old members left and new members joined, and everything was no longer the same. :-P
TheVengeanceKnight
said at 6:28 AM on Thu Dec 20 2012
@BlackWolf219 @Music Meister Didn't he say something about preferring Ultimate Spidey over Spectacular? Or am I remembering wrong...?
SLEDGERAID
said at 8:45 PM on Mon Oct 15 2012
Imagine they make another Marvel vs Capcom while this is the cast hahahaha


A favorite TV Show
for 14 members.
Latest Reason:

"Not as good as EMH, but it has its moments and has been getting better. When it's good, it's good, but when it's not it's not basically."

- Polyester Funk
FAVE CHARACTER
Who's your favorite character?
Captain America / Steve Rogers
30.8% (4 votes)
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Hawkeye / Clint Barton
15.4% (2 votes)
Hulk
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7.7% (1 votes)
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7.7% (1 votes)
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