Pokemon Generations

Pokemon Generations
Voice Director: Ellyn Stern

Total Shorts: 18

Popularity: 18th All Time, 9th This Week

Franchise: Pokemon
Characters on BTVA: 51
Pokemon Generations Pokemon Generations
  VIEW BY:   Characters   |    Characters / Voice Actors   |    Voice Cast   |    Credits

Pokemon Generations Cast


Comments

Add a Comment

WrightWay
said at 11:28 AM on Sat Dec 24 2016
 10 Shout Outs!
To me, Pokemon Generations is honestly pretty average as a whole: I don't think it's bad, per se, but I also don't think it's good in any objective sense. Pokemon Origins was more along the lines of something that could leave a long-lasting impact on you (despite having only one Generation's worth of material to work with), and I also believe its English dub, utilized the LA talent to a stronger degree than this Series did, to be honest.

To begin with, I'll discuss my thoughts on its English dub to get that out of the way, first...one thing I noticed is there was inconsistency in the pronunciation of some terms. This is a minor thing, nothing serious, but about half the characters would say "Pok-ay-mon" (which is how the franchise's English name of Pokemon is correctly pronounced), while the other half of the characters would say "Pok-uh-mon" as well (the incorrect pronunciation): consistency with this would've been nice to hear, because it was a little distracting at times.

Another thing was Suicune's English name is supposed to be pronounced "Swee-coon," not "Soo-ee-cune," like it was in Episode 6 of the dub- I only bring this up because people held the Chronicles dub to that standard with Raikou's pronunciation (that is to say, "Rai-koo" when it's supposed to be "Rai-koh" like the Anime dub said it), so I figure I should do the same for the Generations dub, since it too fell prey to making a similar error in this regard.

Now, the actual issue I found with the English dub...was, as CelestialOuroboros mentioned earlier, the spotty voice acting. On the one hand, I feel there's some pretty good voice acting from certain characters (to name the performances I felt were the strongest- Cyrus, Ghetsis, N, Burgh, Looker, and Drayden), but there's also some below average voice acting from other characters (to name the performances I felt were the weakest- Lance, Agatha, Courtney, Maxie, Archie (sorry, guys), Giovanni, Mars, Jupiter, and Skyla). The performances I didn't list, for the most part, fall squarely in the "forgettable, average" bin for me, so that's all I have to say about this aspect.

To be fair, this was Ellyn Stern's first attempt at voice directing a cast in the Pokemon franchise: for what it's worth, I think she did a decent job when all is said and done, but I also do think it could've been better than it was, at the same time.

Now for Pokemon Generations (not the dub) in general, the Series is comprised of shorts that cover select events from the main Series video games: it works well for that, but when you get down to it...at its core, I feel there's a real lack of creativity and depth to a lot of the characters. Some episodes tend to have better focus than others, but ultimately, you're getting a, "I've seen this before and/or done that already" feeling from the entire thing if you played the video games, prior to watching it.

There was some very strange dialogue/script writing in the Series, an issue I feel could possibly be derived from the source material in Japan itself (there are no English subtitles for the 12 Japanese episodes that are out just yet, so I'm not going to fault the dub for this): some of the phrasing comes off as strange and eccentric, things people (or kids, depending on the situation) would never say in real life, like "I'll smash your ice into a million pieces," "I'll freeze him right into place," "Dude, we gotta get outta here, dude," and so on.

There were three moments in particular in the Series that I couldn't help but question while watching it, namely Archie droning on about, "As long as I have the Blue Orb, Kyogre will do my bidding," in Episode 8, then tossing it away anyway like a complete idiot in spite of his grunt Shelly telling him, "Archie, don't do it," the whole thing with Cheryl eating at the table while they emphasized...well, her mouth...while eating in Episode 10 (fan service?), and when Emma kicked the Espurr for no real reason at all in Episode 17, in spite of it doing nothing to her at all.

Despite my issues with it, on the whole, Generations is likable enough for what it's trying to be...but on the whole, it's honestly nothing I'm going to think *extremely* highly of, in a long term sense. It did a good job of trying to capture the spirit of the games, I liked the ending with AZ being a pretty sweet one, and I can see what merit people find in it, but I also think it isn't this "savior" from the Anime people were claiming it would be on YouTube etc.
Torak
said at 2:30 PM on Sat Dec 24 2016
@WrightWay Well said there! Better than I could. >)
WrightWay
said at 2:39 PM on Sat Dec 24 2016
@Torak
Thanks!
SNaG
said at 5:13 PM on Sat Dec 24 2016
@WrightWay Solid write-up. Pretty much my thoughts exactly (though I disagree slightly on who was good and bad as far as VO goes).

I think Kaiji Tang said somewhere that the producers (he didn't say director AFAIK) wanted to pronounce it Pok-uh-mon... Why is beyond me.
Food4thought
said at 6:35 PM on Sun Dec 25 2016
@WrightWay What Origins had over this was that it was made to capture the overall story in Gen 1 while Generations only depicted separate pieced scenes throughout the games, making it to feel a lot more scattered as a result.
wdf1
said at 11:45 AM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay I have to disagree with you, this was a great call back to the series games, the animation was nice, the English voice acting was great, and the final episode was heartwarming. I wish the main series anime was like this.
WrightWay
said at 11:58 AM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@wdf1
I actually think even the main Series Anime has been more heartwarming than this at points, albeit I felt it's gone downhill as well, and I was honestly not very impressed by the voice acting here (standard for what I've come to expect from Pokemon in the last several years, that being said), but again, that's your opinion & I respect it, even if I can't share your sentiments at all.
wdf1
said at 12:07 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay I still love the main series anime, and the first season brings back memories, but the fact is... I was not a fan of the Black & White seasons, and while I loved the X & Y seasons, Ash losing in Kalos was a let down, and from here on out I just wan't something more closer to the games.
WrightWay
said at 12:15 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@wdf1
I'm not a fan of the Anime either these days, and I think it's pretty predictable & repetitive after you see the same thing over & over again, plus the dub of it...has gone very downhill, imo (and I never expected Ash to win the Kalos League, either, because there's no way they were going to break the "Status Quo is God" trope with him since it's clear Ash is never going to go until the games stop being released as he's more or less a poster child for the Series by now).

I can sympathize with your feelings of wanting something closer to the games like Generations here than the Anime, but sadly, I wish it was a bit longer in length & we had more backstory as well to things. It has the potential, but they're not exploring it, is what I mean.
wdf1
said at 12:23 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay I understand, you want this to be a series of it's own, but the fact is they should've dun that years ago.
WrightWay
said at 12:30 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@wdf1
So true: sad, but so true, I can't say I disagree with you there.
wdf1
said at 12:52 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay The Pokemon main series anime is a part of my childhood, I love Ash Ketchum, I love Pikachu, I love Team Rocket: Jessie, James, and Meowth, and I love Ash's friends: Misty, Brock, May, Dawn, Iris, Serena, Clemont, Bonnie, etc. I also love the battles, the humor, the heart, and the Pokemon themselves, but at this point I just wan't something fresh for the franchise, to me this and Pokemon Origins, where that breath of fresh air.
WrightWay
said at 1:22 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@wdf1
Same thoughts, although I think (most, not all) of the voice acting & some of the dub dialogue as far as Generations goes wasn't up to par, personally- Origins was the closer of the two for what I'm looking for in those aspects compared to Generations (but in general, it's shame it's only 4 episodes & spans just 1 generation, though, it had so much potential).
wdf1
said at 1:45 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay I am looking forward to the Pokemon I Choose You Movie.
WrightWay
said at 1:51 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@wdf1
I'm going to have to watch the 20th Movie in Japanese with English subtitles myself, because the dub would be too hard for me to sit through (for many reasons) if it's going to be the Kanto-Anime reboot people are speculating will be, but I hope it's not just a nostalgia grab & it tells a story different from the source material in general.
wdf1
said at 1:58 PM on Mon Jan 30 2017
@WrightWay Will have to wait and see.
WrightWay
said at 10:37 PM on Fri Feb 17 2017
@wdf1
It's currently looking like a reboot, really, Ash/Satoshi's hat design is an awkward fusion of his OS, XY, and SM designs, his outfit just a retread of the OS one. I'm already very fearful on Movie 20, and the prospects of it are looking very grim for me: even in Japanese, I don't feel retreading something older with the same characters is respectful to the late Takeshi Shudo's work on the franchise...although the dub, well, I have nothing good to say about its current state & based on the last three films as well as the handling of the Anime Series lately, I...will probably have a "MUST AVOID" thought process on it in that nonetheless.
wdf1
said at 4:44 PM on Fri Feb 24 2017
@WrightWay That's enough negative from you, again will have to wait and see.
WrightWay
said at 10:12 AM on Sun Feb 26 2017
@wdf1
Well, I guess I'll say there is a positive note to this, and that's Veronica Taylor etc. have posted on Twitter they want to return for the 20th Movie dub...but, of course, seeing as TPCi is in charge I have no doubt Sarah Natochenny etc. will be doing the dub's voice acting here unless by some fluke they hear the fans' pleas out (additionally, Mr. Goldfarb will probably be back to make more dub-only music for the Movie, too, and Mr. Cathcart will probably be in charge of the script adaptation, which these two alone raise my fears of the dub's quality being questionable off the bat).

But sorry, I can't help but be negative in general on Movie 20: I may have had my problems with the random legendary appears --> Ash meets it & resolves conflict with villain of the day setup the Movies have had for years now, but rebooting what was already done, even in Japanese, raises some issues for me. The dub is my real fear, though, I'm not happy with it at *all* right now & this could very well turn out the way I'm expecting.
wdf1
said at 3:11 PM on Sun Feb 26 2017
@WrightWay I understand how you feel, you don't want the reboot movie to screw up the anime's first season, but at least give it a chance, P.S. stop picking on Sarah and the rest of the current voices they are doing just fine, your letting nostalgia get in the way!
WrightWay
said at 4:50 PM on Sun Feb 26 2017
@wdf1
Yes, that's about right, although I'll give it a chance as long as either they don't diverge too far from the source material or make a new path without stepping on the toes of the older writing done by the late Takeshi Shudo.

P.S. On the topic of the dub, "nostalgia" has nothing to do with why I dislike Sarah's take on Ash, or for that matter, the current Anime/Movie dub as a whole- I find it has VERY grave issues it suffers from (this goes beyond the voice cast, although I think they also have to deal with pretty abysmal vocal direction no matter who it's been in charge) that have caused me to abandon the dub entirely at this point. I enjoy Pokemon in Japanese a lot more these days, really, and I frankly don't see any reason for me to return to the dub any time soon given its current state (again, many factors led to me disliking the dub more & more over time, although to highlight the other issues I have with it nowadays, music in all forms & shoddy writing/script adapting sum it up).

But, if you like the current dub, I can't stop you either- just know I don't care for it much, nor should I be forced to sit through it at all.
wdf1
said at 8:44 PM on Sun Feb 26 2017
@WrightWay Well the 4Kids Dub had it's flaws too, so you and other haters, should grow up and open your eyes. Look, I miss them too, but no one should ever hate new voices, I mean what if YOU took over a role and nobody liked you, how would you feel, pretty bad huh? And Sarah grew up watching the anime just like the rest of us, and she got the chance to voice in it, so imagine if you were Sarah and got the chance to voice in something you grew up with, how would that make you feel?
WrightWay
said at 10:43 PM on Sun Feb 26 2017
@wdf1
I never said it didn't, but TPCi's dub bothers me a great deal more at this stage, since (IMO) its flaws are the same as the 4Kids' dub when you examine both, but I feel it's come greatly at the cost of lacking any of the good points the 4Kids dub itself had, but again we shouldn't be debating the Anime/Movie dub quality on the Pokemon Generations page (although I think the dub for Generations here was also lacking when compared to its Origins counterpart, and both dubs were done by TPCi with LA voice-over talent pools). The directing is what's getting to me here- I've heard a lot of both sets of actors/actresses elsewhere, and they seem okay, but when it comes to Pokemon many of them falter in comparison.

I don't hate them because they're new (if that were true, why would I prefer the Origins dub voices over both the current dub Anime/Movie voices, when those debuted earlier?), and I don't hate the actors either: it's the vocal direction they're given in this particular Series (particularly what Tom Wayland was going for with the Anime Series during his tenure), with the poor dialogue they're given to read to boot (also a problem with Generations dub here), that makes me dislike their performances. Making a character seem genuine out of this kind of environment would be a difficult task for any actor or actress, make no mistake, I'm not saying it's easy at all.

I would feel somewhat bad, sure, but rather than ignoring it, I would take that criticism and better my performance as a result of it- see where my faults are and try to improve it. And yeah, I know that, I'm more upset with the behind-the-scenes people than I am with any of the actors involved, I know they're just doing their jobs, Sarah included.
larkchronicles
said at 3:55 AM on Tue Feb 28 2017
@WrightWay Thing is, it's hard to separate politely worded meaningful criticism from shallow/spiteful bashing- especially when the latter is so prominent (I still see people suggesting that the new cast personally had a hand in the in replacement fiasco, which bothers me to no end). Eventually, you'll just have to grow thick skin, move on, and focus on doing what you and the director believe is good work.
Unknownsage13
said at 12:50 AM on Sat Dec 24 2016
 1 Shout Out!
Considering they're in LA now, wish Veronica Taylor and Rachael Lillis had appeared in this. Would've been a nice throwback.

Though do love that Tara Jayne appeared in an episode! They got one of the classic Pokemon actors atleast.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:40 PM on Fri Dec 23 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
It's too bad there wasn't a Sun and Moon short. They have, in my opinion, the single best cast of characters in any Pokemon game.

I liked this series overall. It was a fun little refresher on the Pokemon world over the years and it was cool to see animated versions of key events and characters from the games.
Unknownsage13
said at 12:55 AM on Sat Dec 24 2016
@NCZ Agreed. Especially because I doubt the official anime is gonna really show the darker parts of Sun/Moon. Would've been cool for example to have an episode where it shows the trainer go through that walled city.
Fancy Ken
said at 9:42 PM on Tue Dec 27 2016
@NCZ Maybe they will revisit Pokemon Sun and Moon for generations later on. Like I could see a few one year anniversary special episodes of generations feature Sun and Moon.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 10:54 PM on Mon Jan 2 2017
@Unknownsage13 @Fancy Ken

I hope so. I really want to see Guzma and Plumeria animated. Easily my favourite antagonists in the series.
CelestialOuroboros
said at 1:20 PM on Fri Dec 23 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Just finished the entire miniseries. Taking into consideration that this is a way to commemorate the franchise's 20th anniversary, it's nice by and large. A cool walk down memory lane and more or less a truer-to-text thing, even though Origins handled that latter aspect better overall. Whilst I'm nowhere near big on Pokemon as I was years ago, it's good that both Origins and Generations made me feel all sorts of nostalgic.

The English voice work should've been far less spotty than it ended up being, though I'm gonna be that guy and say Ellyn Stern's direction is more competent in comparison to what Tom Wayland can do; guess it goes without saying tho. Speaking of voices, many of the seiyuu attached to this are lovely; Maaya Sakamoto, Keiji Fujiwara, Akio Otsuka, Mamiko Noto, Nobuo Tobita, Rikiya Koyama, even my dude Wataru Takagi...

I'll reiterate: these shorts were harmless as well as agreeable altogether for what they were.
TrueMyriad
said at 6:40 PM on Wed Dec 21 2016
 3 Shout Outs!
That was Tara Jayne as Cynthia!? She was so AMAZING!
SNaG
said at 8:16 PM on Thu Dec 15 2016
 6 Shout Outs!
Heh, both Rikiya Koyama and Jamieson Price play Archie here, like how they shared Giovanni in Origins. Both antagonists too. Nice little coincidence.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 7:27 PM on Tue Dec 20 2016
@SNaG Not necessarily pokemon, but Richard Epcar & Akio who played Giovanni here, have shared four roles (Batou, Ansem, Okuru, & Gaius), some later ones *specifically* because of the older ones (chiefly Batou),
SNaG
said at 9:16 AM on Wed Dec 21 2016
@huzaifa_ahmed .....I know, but I wasn't pointing that out....
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 10:13 AM on Thu Dec 22 2016
@SNaG Aha, my bad, I guess I found it an interesting related coincidence, then. It's weird, but also cool when it happens.
doodlebugfour
said at 10:41 AM on Mon Dec 26 2016
@SNaG Price and Koyama also share the role of Duke from Tales of Vesperia, which is a weird casting choice on Namco's part due to how incredibly beautiful Duke looks lol.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 2:46 AM on Fri Jan 6 2017
@doodlebugfour To be fair, Yuri Lowell also looks more like a typical Yuri Lowenthal character than the rich, manly voice that Toriumi & Baker gave him.
Sk8erPrince
said at 6:31 AM on Mon Dec 12 2016
@played
Sk8erPrince
said at 6:31 AM on Mon Dec 12 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
This series is really nicely done; brings back memories on all the Pokemon games I've done so far. Even better is the excellent voice acting; it's just like any other good dub I come across. ^^

Can't wait for the final episodes!
Lionman
said at 9:35 AM on Fri Dec 9 2016
 1 Shout Out!
Dang, pokemon sure has come a long way from its roots.....
DisneyAnimefan1995
said at 7:43 AM on Fri Dec 9 2016
 1 Shout Out!
Is anyone excited for the final 3 episodes of Genrations, this time centering on the Generation VI titles (Pokemon X and Y)?

I'm also very excited to see who will they cast as Lysandre and the Team Flare Admins. My Hunch is either Lex Lang or Kyle Hebert for Lysandre.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:10 AM on Fri Dec 9 2016
@DisneyAnimefan1995 It sounded like Kyle Hebert to me.
DisneyAnimefan1995
said at 11:42 AM on Fri Dec 9 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus I actually watched the episode and everyone else believes Lysandre is Imari Williams.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:33 PM on Sat Dec 17 2016
@DisneyAnimefan1995 Listening to Imari's voice makes me think that too. Personally I didn't think he was a good fit for Lysandre at all - the voice and tone he put on for the role was all wrong and the line delivery was off.
DisneyAnimefan1995
said at 9:34 AM on Tue Dec 20 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus Actually Galactic_Cyrus, Imari Williams has confirmed he is NOT Lysandre.

https://twitter.com/ImariSpeaks/stat...56207305826304

https://twitter.com/ImariSpeaks/stat...99177790955520
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 11:34 AM on Sun Feb 19 2017
@DisneyAnimefan1995 Then who was???
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:11 AM on Fri Dec 2 2016
 8 Shout Outs!
I was expecting Ghetsis in that recent episode...BUT IT WAS DIO!!!

Patrick Seitz did great in the role, but I don't know who voiced N, who had a great voice as well.
Axem Red
said at 1:46 PM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus N almost sounds like Cam Clarke.
Girlygeek43
said at 4:36 PM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Axem Red I have a bit of a hunch It's Matthew Mercer kinda sounds like him.
Lightybulb
said at 4:39 PM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Girlygeek43 N actually sounds a LOT like Grant George to me!
HylianBelmont
said at 5:08 PM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus I actually did think it was Cam Clarke who played N like Axem did when I heard his voice at first. But after I heard more I'm pretty sure it's Grant George. You can hear his Jin voice in there!
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 2:33 PM on Sun Dec 4 2016
@HylianBelmont In one of his earlier lines about how he couldn't let selfish humans make Pokemon suffer, he slipped into his Warrior of Light voice, so it's surely him.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:01 AM on Mon Dec 5 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus Yeah! He was a good choice I'd say. Although his voice was inconsistent at times.
HylianBelmont
said at 5:29 AM on Mon Dec 5 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus Well. Not too much actually. But hopefully you get where I'm coming from.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 2:50 PM on Wed Dec 7 2016
@HylianBelmont I dunno, Cam has rarely done anime, & it's almost always been the less anemically-budgeted dubs, like Monster, Naruto, Bleach, Marvel anime. I don't think he'd be in this dub, which isnt at Studiopolis or under a more established ADR director (all due respect to Ellyn Stern tho).

It's probably a younger VA that happens to sound a lot like Cam.
HylianBelmont
said at 3:39 PM on Wed Dec 7 2016
@huzaifa_ahmed It was more of a case of when I heard his voice at first I was like "Oh hey is that Cam?" but as I heard more of N. It became obvious that he was voiced by Grant George!
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 4:22 PM on Wed Dec 7 2016
@HylianBelmont Mm, I see. I did check out that Whose Voice is This thread, after typing this out, actually. Grant George is good.
BlueScarabGuy
said at 11:54 PM on Fri Nov 25 2016
Haven't watched Generations yet, but Richard Epcar as Giovanni sounds like a great pick. I like how they're picking deeper-voiced, threatening-sounding actors for him in more recent stuff (as with Jamieson Price in Origins) rather than his very enjoyable but still hammy-Bond-villain take from the series and movies.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 6:54 PM on Sat Nov 26 2016
@BlueScarabGuy The more I listen to Epcar's voice in the Giovanni episodes, the more I wish he had better direction because I can imagine him sounding more on par with Price's rendition with better direction and better material to work with.
Dustinman2012
said at 8:44 AM on Thu Nov 24 2016
 1 Shout Out!
6 voices from Origins, now playing different characters. One voice from the main series, and he voices 3 major characters from the Black and White games. I am loving Pokemon Generations and its cast!
Kirbopher
said at 10:57 AM on Fri Nov 25 2016
@Dustinman2012 Lucien's was in the series long before and after I was first in it, and Cristina's been in the show too!
Dustinman2012
said at 11:10 AM on Sat Nov 26 2016
@Kirbopher Wow, I never knew that. Well, I'd expect nothing less from the guy behind the Did You Know Voice Acting series
Food4thought
said at 11:20 AM on Wed Nov 23 2016
I was expecting Steve Staley to voice Colress
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 8:57 PM on Wed Nov 23 2016
@Food4thought Did we know who did voice him?
Kirbopher
said at 11:52 PM on Wed Nov 23 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus I voiced Colress! Though funnily enough, I THINK that was Steve was Sage Zinzolin in the same short!
Food4thought
said at 11:19 AM on Thu Nov 24 2016
@Kirbopher Ah, thanks for telling us.
SNaG
said at 9:26 PM on Thu Nov 24 2016
@Kirbopher You did a bangup job as Colress!
TrueMyriad
said at 9:51 PM on Thu Nov 24 2016
@Kirbopher You're seriously the MVP of Pokemon Generations(voicing 3 characters so far, DANG! Lucky :D )!
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 7:00 PM on Sat Nov 26 2016
@Kirbopher When Colress gets a voice compare, I'd still vote for Eli James over you, but I'd like you to know what an INCREDIBLY close second you are. Sean Schemmel from the BW2 animated trailer gets last place, and I hope people do NOT disagree there. :P
Torak
said at 4:40 AM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus
"When Colress gets a voice compare, I'd still vote for Eli James over you"

Savage. xD
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:09 AM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Torak Sorry! It's not Kirbopher's fault that Eli James got a lot more to work with.
Torak
said at 10:44 AM on Fri Dec 2 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus Chill man, it was nothing personal. :)
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 11:36 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Big question now - who's gonna be voicing N, Ghetsis, Lysandre, and AZ?
Excaman
said at 3:31 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
I seriously thought that Burgh's voice actor was Doug Erholtz, but that's just me though.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:21 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Excaman No, it was definitely Nisoi. I could hear some of his Abridged Noah Kaiba voice in there.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:38 AM on Sun Nov 20 2016
@Excaman https://twitter.com/Kirbopher/status/799665760670887936
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 12:01 AM on Sat Nov 26 2016
@Excaman Chris Niosi's voice is the same timbre as Roger Smith (no, not that Batman character, I mean his Arkham VA, lol), whereas Doug Erholtz is a *tad* deeper. Overall, though, they have close voices, so I can get someone mistaking them.
Fulgore2005
said at 1:11 PM on Tue Nov 8 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
I kinda wish that the voice acting in these shorts were as good as in Origins, but I still enjoy these shorts and several of the voices anyway.

I personally enjoy the voice work for Looker, Silver, Cyrus and Maxie.
Unknownsage13
said at 2:09 PM on Fri Nov 18 2016
@Fulgore2005 honestly I'm sure if we just heard only a couple minutes of any of the Origins dialogue and they were action scenes, we would also feel it was lower quality.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:22 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Fulgore2005 I'm personally not the biggest fan of Kaji Tang's Looker, but then again, I just don't like Looker in these shorts. They make him so serious and good at his job, which is completely off the mark from what the character was in the games.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:35 AM on Sun Nov 20 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus Kaiji Tang is basically using a more confident version of his Ignatius voice from Fire Emblem Fates. And I must say I think it fits his design perfectly! I can understand why you do not like his characterisation here however. But I can't really claim to mind it myself.
FreeFanboy
said at 9:22 PM on Sun Nov 6 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
So far I'm incredibly disappointed with this dub. There's poor voice direction and scripting that makes these talented, experienced voice actors sound really forced and awkward. Some of the casting could have been octaves better too, it's like they're just throwing in these popular voice actors just because.
Torak
said at 12:26 PM on Mon Nov 7 2016
@FreeFanboy In my opinion, the only three performances that are standout and better than the anime counterparts are Lucian Dodge, Kaiji Tang and Cyrus' VA.
I even find the Diamond and Pearl TPCI dub to the better than this, honestly.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:24 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Torak I felt Lance, Eusine, Archie, Saturn, Iris, Clay, and Lenora all sounded better than their main anime voices did.
WrightWay
said at 1:58 AM on Sun Dec 4 2016
@FreeFanboy
Thank god it's not just me...
Food4thought
said at 7:19 PM on Sun Nov 6 2016
Jupiter's voice (whether she's Cassandra or not) should've gone to Mars honestly
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:25 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Food4thought SERIOUSLY. And from her few lines, Mars' voice actor could've sold it as Jupiter. They got switched around!
TrueMyriad
said at 10:56 AM on Sun Nov 6 2016
 1 Shout Out!
I could've sworn that I heard Cassandra Lee Morris as Jupiter
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:25 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@TrueMyriad I'm just gonna pretend she was Mars instead.
Nin10do6t4
said at 12:20 PM on Sat Nov 5 2016
 1 Shout Out!
Thinking about Friday's Episode: The New World, Jupiter definitely sounded like Cassandra Lee Morris. Anyone else think that?
PokeDude011
said at 9:56 PM on Fri Nov 4 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
I think Tabitha is voiced by Vic Mignogna.
Unknownsage13
said at 12:59 AM on Sun Nov 6 2016
@PokeDude011 Yeah I was thinking him, Todd Haberkorn, or someone else with one of those types of voices.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 7:22 AM on Sun Nov 6 2016
@Unknownsage13 It's Doug Erholtz, actually. He's usually known for low, dry voices, so it's not immediately apparent. His range goes pretty high.

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/tv-shows/Digimon-Fusion/Hagurumon/

See what I mean?
Axem Red
said at 7:24 PM on Fri Nov 4 2016
Is it just me or did Cyrus sound like Kim Strauss?
tlemmens10
said at 2:40 AM on Sat Nov 5 2016
@Axem Red More like Dan Green to me.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 9:25 AM on Sat Nov 5 2016
@Axem Red A little, yeah. Pretty sure it's Michael Sorich though.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:26 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Nightmare Crusher I don't think it's either. Kim Strauss, Dan Green, and Michael Sorich all sound pretty distinct when they shout, and Cyrus sounded like none of them.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 10:46 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Galactic_Cyrus The closest Cyrus gets to shouting is when he slightly raises his voice. Not a great point.

I'll do you one better though. Talking about Sengoku Basara recently reminded me that I have heard Michael Sorich do this voice before. Check out bandages here.
https://youtu.be/yw71LeGuzZM
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 11:00 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Nightmare Crusher Even with the raised voice, I couldn't hear any Michael Sorich. But maybe it's just cause of the roles I'm used to hearing him in.
TrueMyriad
said at 1:39 PM on Sun Oct 9 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
I did wish to hear Lucien again as Blu, but his Silver was magnificent! :)
Fancy Ken
said at 7:34 AM on Tue Oct 18 2016
@TrueMyriad and I would say while Lucien was a good Blue, I think Erik Kimerer is perfect for it.
SNaG
said at 5:39 PM on Tue Oct 18 2016
@Fancy Ken Definitely! And Lucien was pretty darn good as Blue, so that's a fairly high bar to cross IMO.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:28 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@Fancy Ken ( think all of Blue's voices (Jimmy Zoppi, Lucien Dodge, and Erik Kimerer) have all been perfect fits. For some reason they really luck out with the character.
King Marth 64
said at 9:26 PM on Sat Oct 8 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
It's cool to see Kyle Hebert voices Eusine and it's strange that Lucien Dodge didn't voice Blue like in Origins but he is used for Silver instead?

Also, too bad that Jameson Pierce didn't return as Giovanni and Kirk Thorton didn't return as Lance. Jameson was pretty good choice for Giovanni back in Origins.
Kirbopher
said at 1:27 PM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@King Marth 64 Kirk Thornton didn't play Lance in Origins; it was Bob Buccholz. I've tried correcting it on a few places, but it keeps getting reversed.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 2:16 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@Kirbopher To be fair to the guys at Bulbapedia at least, you didn't exactly present any hard evidence. FWIW I do agree that Lance was voiced by Bob Buchholz, but I can understand why your edit got reversed.
Unknownsage13
said at 8:41 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@Kirbopher The guy from Outlaw Star still does voice acting!? Holy cow I thought he disappeared.
Kirbopher
said at 2:02 PM on Fri Oct 14 2016
@Nightmare Crusher He's not exactly on social media, so there's not much else one can do in the way of 'hard evidence' for that. Either way, it's better than just "EH, HE SOUNDS KINDA LIKE KIRK. WHATEVER."
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:14 PM on Fri Oct 14 2016
@Kirbopher Didn't you say he was the director? However you found that out might be a start. Or just a soundclip of something Bob did that sounds vaguely similar. If that's not enough then I'd say there's no use convincing them.
Kirbopher
said at 11:05 PM on Sat Oct 15 2016
@Nightmare Crusher The recent YouTube uploads of the Origin episodes on the official Pokemon channel credit Bob for his directing and ADR scripting.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 2:11 PM on Tue Oct 18 2016
@Kirbopher Is the dubbing studio Bang Zoom? I'd guess so in terms of typicality, but Generations wasn't, so I wonder..
rosebr10
said at 4:06 PM on Tue Oct 18 2016
@Kirbopher
By process of elimination from the only credit set I know

http://voiceacting.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Origins?file=Pok%C3%A9mon_Origins_English_Dub_Credits.PNG

He's Steve Heiser (who may also be the same person as a "Stephen Heiser" I found from 2008).

Anyone hear Gene Starwind et al. in Knights of Sidonia's Kashiwade Aoki?
MasterBlaster
said at 10:17 PM on Thu Oct 20 2016
@Kirbopher Also, the original Hulu streams, on the final episode, had the full credits, which I managed to copy into ANN's English staff listings for the special a while ago. But not everyone gets Hulu, so it's no problem.

@huzaifa_ahmed Origins was recorded at SDI Media, which also recorded Knights of Sidonia, the US English dub of Hubert and Takako, and Tales from Earthsea, among others.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=9996

I would guess that Generations is recorded at Richard Epcar's own production company, Epcar Entertainment. Seeing as both him and his wife are working on it, it would make the most sense.
http://richardepcar.com/company/company-information/
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 2:14 AM on Fri Oct 21 2016
@MasterBlaster I appreciate the SDI information. I believe Ben Diskin said something else about the studio. Its a minor one, I forget the name honestly.
DisneyAnimefan1995
said at 7:22 PM on Fri Oct 21 2016
@huzaifa_ahmed It was Deluxe Digital Services, and apparently it was also the same recording studio that recorded "Little Witch Academia"

https://twitter.com/BenjaminDiskin/status/779505425892782081

https://twitter.com/LauraPostVoice/status/676879167967723520
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 8:20 PM on Fri Oct 21 2016
@DisneyAnimefan1995 Thanks man. You da real MVP.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:29 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@King Marth 64 I think I like Ben's take on Lance better than Kirk's, and Erik's Blue is equally perfect as Lucien's.

Similarly, Jamieson Price did just as perfectly as Archie as he did as Giovanni. I just wish Richard Epcar wasn't so flat sounding in his take on Giovanni.
GreenGoblin75
said at 8:33 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
Weird that they got Lucien back, but not as Blue...
Unknownsage13
said at 8:42 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@GreenGoblin75 Yeah. Know if it is a different company that recorded it this time?
GreenGoblin75
said at 8:55 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@Unknownsage13
I think it was the same company, but this wasn't intended to be a follow-up/continuation of Origins, and it's just coincidence that Lucien was Silver. At least, that's what NCZ said, I believe.
Unknownsage13
said at 9:06 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@GreenGoblin75 Yeah I figured it wasn't really a follow-up. Cuz like Giovanni's episode makes him leaving the gym seem very different (Origins it was honorable, Generations just seemed like he was going into hiding). Just would've been cool if some of the actors had returned for certain roles. Kinda an easter egg thing in a way, ya know?
GreenGoblin75
said at 9:11 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@GreenGoblin75
Yeah, I agree. That would've been cool.
Fancy Ken
said at 7:35 AM on Tue Oct 18 2016
@GreenGoblin75 I think that it's because they got Erik Kimerer, who is absolutely perfect for Blue.
Food4thought
said at 8:29 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
I'm a fan of the cast members for their other works, but I'm starting to see what NCZ means by seeing the same faces everywhere. Nothing against them of course.
Unknownsage13
said at 12:12 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
Origins-Lucien plays Blue
Generations-Lucien plays Silver

I'm gonna guess when there are cartoons advertising the gen after Sun and Moon, he'll be playing Brendan or Wally.
GothamRed
said at 7:18 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
@Unknownsage13 The of course Barry, Cheran, and Serena (cause why not)
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 1:33 PM on Sat Oct 15 2016
@Unknownsage13 I gotta say I liked the way you said "cartoon" instead of "anime" here. Too often we differentiate them for no real good reason.
Unknownsage13
said at 4:01 PM on Sun Oct 16 2016
@huzaifa_ahmed With me often what I do is in regards to Japanese animation I'll use anime and cartoon interchangeably. But in regards to American animation I just use cartoon. Weird right?
WrightWay
said at 11:10 AM on Fri Oct 7 2016
Two new episodes out today, and of them, I'd say Episode 5 was arguably the best installment in the Series yet, while Episode 6 is one of the weakest (though it's still better than 1 & 4 were in my book).

Episode 5- It more or less continues what Episode 2 was trying to do, surprisingly, so for once, one of these shorts has actually connected to another's story. It features the return of Looker trying to persuade Silver (in this continuity, like the games, he is Giovanni's son) to give him information on Giovanni's whereabouts. Silver then has a flashback to the Generations incarnation of Giovanni talking with him, and it was actually pretty interesting. Out of all the episodes so far, this has got to be the strongest so far.

The dubbing is also at its best here so far: in Episode 2, I felt Richard Epcar's Giovanni was completely wooden & lifeless, but here he seemed to put at least some form of emotion into his performance relative to that, so he was alright this time around. Kaiji Tang really gets into his take on Looker, so that was nice, and whoever voiced Silver is also pretty emotive- they did a good job.

I hope more Generations shorts take after what this one did, because it could genuinely have a long-lasting impression on its audience if they do more like this.

Episode 6- This was poor, on the other hand, and didn't leave any impression on me. It goes back to having no continuity with the other shorts, but on top of that, it's a verbatim rehash of a story the Anime already told in Johto (and actually did it better!) about Suicine. Eusine's voice actor in this is pretty stiff as well, and he sounds like some generic guy, as opposed to a legendary master. It's just a retread of what we've already seen before: that being said, it's at least got more depth than the laughable Episode 1 & weak Episode 4, so it's not the worst installment.

Side note: I haven't brought this up yet since I don't think it's THAT important in the long run, but has anyone noticed some pronunciation issues in this, for certain terms? I keep hearing "Pok-uh-mon" for whatever reason, and I don't get why Suicine is pronounced "Soo-e-cune" now? There was also the Viridian Gym being called the "Verdian" Gym back in Episode 2, but I guess it's the result of either faulty direction, or just not being too familiar with the source material since they're new to this Series?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:59 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@WrightWay To be honest for a second, I think you might be reading too into these shorts. These aren't supposed to tell a deep narrative or be an alternate storyline. These are just little snippets of the overall Pokemon world as a way to celebrate the franchise's anniversary. They're basically little trailers. I think judging this series as if it's a regular anime is a bit unfair.
WrightWay
said at 1:03 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@NCZ
I suppose you have a fair point, and that's true, but I'm just giving my two cents on the whole Series so far- some people are already saying "It's better than the Anime!" or "It's better than Origins!" without explaining why, so I'm kind of puzzled by that. It's just supposed to be fun, sure, but I feel like some of the Episodes are notably stronger than others.
Torak
said at 1:21 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@WrightWay I appreciate that you have a lot to say about the series so far (as I am a fan too :D) but I think these reviews would be better on a forum page, otherwise this page could become a bit long to scroll through. :)
WrightWay
said at 1:25 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@Torak
Thanks: I know you guys are right, but I'm just in awe that some people are already saying this is the best thing to ever happen to the franchise in terms of Animation, just because there's no Ash or Red focus in it. I'm of the opinion that Generations is decent, but it's not really THAT different from what we're used to as usual when you get down to it (IMO, at least).
Torak
said at 1:34 PM on Fri Oct 7 2016
@WrightWay I see where you're coming from. I might start a topic in the forum section, since we both have something to say about the series.
WrightWay
said at 12:08 PM on Sat Oct 8 2016
@Torak
I guess I'm really just okay with Generations as a whole: it's nothing amazing like the YouTube comments section hypes it out to be, but it's nothing terrible like Twitter & Facebook says it is, either. It's like any other form of Pokemon Media, really, it has its pros & its cons.
Galactic_Cyrus
said at 10:31 PM on Sat Nov 19 2016
@NCZ That's what I've always been saying!
WrightWay
said at 1:03 AM on Thu Oct 6 2016
 1 Shout Out!
Pokemon Generations is basically a Series of 3-5 minute shorts that are completely disconnected from each other, and it focuses on different main characters in each Episode. Your mileage may vary, but for me, it really does little, since it's pretty hard to invest in any of the characters due to such a lack of depth, and the time limit makes it hard to genuinely make an impression as a whole.

While I'd rather watch Generations than the current Anime & Movies, it really does pale badly in comparison to Origins, since it does little to build up on its characters. Heck, even the Anime had a more fleshed out Giovanni, Agatha, and Lance when the characters had appearances, which is saying a lot.

Regarding the Episodes that have been released so far, I'd say the following:

Episode 1- Really bad: it was just watching a silent Red battle with a squeaky voiced Pikachu against random Pokemon from each region.

Episode 2- Good: while I wish Giovanni wasn't such a boring character in this, Looker was really interesting and his commanding of his police was interesting.

Episode 3- Average: you're just watching Blue face off against the Elite Four of Kanto, and that's really it.

Episode 4- Poor: this time around, it's just Lance going into a Team Rocket headquarters and trying to beat them. Also, the grunts walking is the most awkwardly animated thing to watch in the Series so far, it's hilariously bad and unrealistic.

As for the English dubbing, well, it ranges from being mediocre at best, to below average at worst. A lot of the voice acting is hit-or-miss across the board (you have your hits with Blue, Bruno, & Looker, and your misses with Agatha, Giovanni, & Lance so far, respectively), and the dialogue is pretty awkward and unnatural at points, most notable in Episode 3 when Blue says "I'll smash your ice into a million pieces" and "See? I'm an incredible genius" among other lines, but overall, it's definitely better than the XY-XYZ dub in both aspects, and in one other regard: it also seems like, despite it being produced for us like Mastermind was rather than in Japan, it actually keeps the Japanese score since I'm hearing a lot of instrumentals from the games.

All of this being said, I'm interested in seeing what Episodes 5-18 are going to be like, and I really hope they get out of Kanto soon, and explore the other regions a bit.
Torak
said at 1:51 PM on Thu Oct 6 2016
@WrightWay Nice review. I don't usually get into doing those on here, but to me it looks like the animation is a little inconsistent. At times like in episode 3 its polished and has just the right detail, but episode 4 looked sloppy and unfinished.

And yeah, the grunts walking... It's like it was made in a day with just a few frames on Adobe Flash. Hopefully the next few shorts will be better. :)
WrightWay
said at 1:55 PM on Thu Oct 6 2016
@Torak
Thanks! I'd also have to say I agree with you on the Animation quality in Episode 3 vs. Episode 4: that's a pretty good point you've brought up. :)
Faved by 25 BTVA Members
Share/Save/Bookmark
Fave Character
Who's your favorite character?
Looker
27.3% (3 votes)
Courtney
18.2% (2 votes)
Blue
9.1% (1 vote)
Cheryl
9.1% (1 vote)
Silver
9.1% (1 vote)
Cyrus
9.1% (1 vote)
Mimi
9.1% (1 vote)
Lysandre
9.1% (1 vote)
11 Total Votes
VOICE COMPARES
Listen to all the actors who have voiced the following Pokemon Generations characters.
Eusine
Eusine
Iris
Iris
Giovanni
Giovanni
Blue
Blue
RELATED ITEMS
Search for "Pokemon Generations style=" on Amazon.com.