Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions

Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions
Voice Director: Darren Dunstan

US Theatrical: Jan 27, 2017
Japan Theatrical: Apr 23, 2016

Popularity: 314th All Time, 224th This Week

Franchise: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Characters on BTVA: 25
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1dbad
said at 2:04 AM on Thu Jun 15 2017
https://twitter.com/AstroNerdBoy/status/875212227212476418

A Twitter user got an early copy of the American home video release for reviewing purposes, and bad news: It has dubtitles (closed captioning of the English dub dialogue) instead of subtitles. It'd be one thing if this was a faithful dub, but the dubtitles don't match what's being said in the Japanese version at all.

I'm guessing it won't be an issue for most people, since the majority will be buying for the English dub. But I thought it was worth mentioning there was an issue, especially for anyone who was interested in checking out the Japanese track.
WrightWay
said at 5:43 PM on Tue Jun 27 2017
@1dbad
I have to admit I actually burst out laughing when someone said "Shameful" and linked that, "You fight me with fruit?" dub-exclusive line from Kaiba here:

https://twitter.com/maidendays/status/879767783487057921

Good news, though: they're going to fix it and replace the product, supposedly.

https://twitter.com/maidendays/status/879816040745541632
1dbad
said at 1:15 PM on Wed Jun 28 2017
@WrightWay Happy to hear they are going to fix it. I was worried after Anchor Bay completely ignored all of the complaints they received with their Ghost in the Shell release.

Still, it's shameful something like this happened to begin with. It's an issue specific to the US release too - UK, Australia and other territories didn't have any issue with their releases.
FF91
said at 1:29 PM on Mon Jul 10 2017
@WrightWay When will we expect to see a release on the new version?
WrightWay
said at 2:22 PM on Mon Jul 10 2017
@FF91
Not sure just yet: apparently, fans have to contact AnchorBay to get the corrected subs on the Bluray, but I'd say in a few months (as a guess, again, no definitive date has been provided just yet).
FF91
said at 3:36 PM on Mon Jul 10 2017
@WrightWay
I see... I guess I'll just have to wait a bit longer before I pick the DVD up.
1dbad
said at 8:19 PM on Wed Aug 2 2017
@FF91 They'll actually send you a replacement disc with proper subtitles if you buy the movie. You just have to email Lionsgate's customer service with a receipt/order screenshot (if you buy online), a picture of the discs, and a picture of the barcode on the back. Only catch if you have to live in the US, and buy from a store or directly from a site like Amazon (instead of a third-party seller on said site) to qualify for the replacement.
FF91
said at 10:57 AM on Mon Aug 7 2017
@1dbad Yeesh... that all sounds very confusing...
1dbad
said at 3:26 PM on Mon Aug 7 2017
@FF91 Yeah, it kind of is... They can walk you through it step by step if you email them.
HylianBelmont
said at 1:49 AM on Sat Apr 22 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
I watched the film yesterday, and wow it was amazing IMO! The story was pretty interesting (Like the stuff with Shadi and Bakura's Father in particular) and it was nice seeing characters like Duke Devlin and Bakura again as well! (Even if Duke didn't have anywhere near as much presence as I would've liked haha)

The dub in particular was pretty good I thought. All the VAs slipped back into their respective roles rather well. And Aigami's voice actor in particular was perfect. But yeah, great film overall.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:46 AM on Sun Aug 13 2017
@HylianBelmont I suppose I should actually clarify here that, when I praised the story here, I was saying it was good by "Yu-Gi-Oh!" standards.
WrightWay
said at 2:30 PM on Wed Mar 29 2017
 7 Shout Outs!
I decided to make a "Dark Side Of Dimensions" English Dub vs. Japanese Original (English Sub) Comparison now that both versions are watchable to the general public- if you're interested, feel free to check it out:
https://dsod.000webhostapp.com/

ANN gave the English Dub a B+ rating, but it's pretty obvious to me they didn't watch the Japanese Version to me, reading their review: after comparing them side by side, though, I'd give the dub a B- rating in terms of its overall quality. The only things really holding the dub back are the music replacing, some jokes tossed in for the sake of it and/or minor rewrites, plus Kudaragi/Scud's dub voice (the bully) is unfitting to me, but aside from that...the dub did fairly well for itself in the larger scope of things.

About 80% of the script is the same in English as in Japanese, so it's surprisingly a mostly faithful adaptation script wise, the voice cast is all around pretty good with proper vocal direction for the most part, and they left the Japanese sound effects for the Life Point counter, blowing up lights etc. the same despite the BGM changes. There's no visual editing, so the Movie is 2 hrs. 10 minutes in total for both the dub & Japanese Version, so 4KMedia/Konami kept true to their promise on that much, and that's about it.
FF91
said at 4:36 PM on Wed Mar 29 2017
@WrightWay That's a big relief.
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 9:24 AM on Thu May 11 2017
@WrightWay "The only things really holding the dub back are the music replacing"

"the dub did fairly well for itself in the larger scope of things."

I'm not saying it's factually a bad dub to replace music, however I think it's funny how people would throw absolute *riots* (Internet-wise, at least) over stuff like Glitter Force or back when One Piece (& 99% of 4Kids/Saban/Nelvana stuff) had this issue, but are totally forgoing it in this case. & I guess that's because 4Kids' version *is* the show to them.

However, I do have to say that I did think ANN staff, of all people, would review it more critically - ergo, as a dub rather than as "the show itself". Honestly, I'm a tad surprised.
WrightWay
said at 9:36 AM on Thu May 11 2017
@huzaifa_ahmed

Frankly, I agree with you, and this isn't even my favorite Movie dub (or dub in general) from 4Kids/4KMedia- the last 5 Pokemon Movie dubs in a row they did, had better treatment than this Movie's dub did (and kept the Japanese OST tracks, to boot).

That isn't to say I disliked this Movie's dub, I felt it was an average effort to a slightly above average effort (and I think Eric Stuart really redeemed himself as Kaiba here) which is fantastic for Yu-Gi-Oh dub standards, but it absolutely could've been much better.
Firion2
said at 2:17 AM on Mon Mar 6 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Just few days left for blu ray sub version.
Ring-o-Round
said at 12:31 PM on Fri Mar 3 2017
 7 Shout Outs!
After Mr. Green's wife passed away from having their twins, he stopped voice acting(at least I believe so since she passed in 2011 and he stopped in the same year) but to hear his performance as Yugi once again was as tear-jerking as his quote about the heart of the cards. His act was phenomenal, and to know what he's been through and to hear him come back after all of it to play just as a strong hearted character? Breathtaking and astounding. This was a marvelous movie beyond exception
Firion2
said at 2:16 AM on Mon Mar 6 2017
@Ring-o-Round do you know yugioh abridged? The user donated money to dan green after his wife passed away.
Abdullab
said at 11:57 AM on Wed Mar 8 2017
@Firion2 wait littlekuriboh actually did that.
Abdullab
said at 11:58 AM on Wed Mar 8 2017
@Firion2 than cool speaking of abridged i wonder how they will do this movie.
WrightWay
said at 9:47 PM on Fri Feb 17 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
I can't comment on the English dub's quality itself after seeing it, since that's a whole issue all its own, and until I see the Japanese Version in its entirety, I cannot tell you guys how much (or how little) was altered script wise: the OST is also replaced because Michael Brady (aka bacondevil on that AMA he had on Reddit) needs work in 4K's music department, apparently, which is *sort of* understandable (though as I've said countless times, the actual practice of changing OST is really not okay with me in 2017, but Pokemon, Pretty Cure (aka "Glitter Force") and other dubs aside from Yu-Gi-Oh here still do it to this day, while pretty much even kids' Anime that keeps the OST itself like Beyblade Burst & Yokai Watch, still end up making dub-exclusive OPs & EDs replacing the Japanese ones even now for whatever reason).

I cannot really comment on the Movie itself either, since I do not know what the dub did or did not do to the overall plot as well, unfortunately, I have to wait on that as well- the only thing I can say for certain is Joey/Jounouchi (along with Tea/Anzu & Tristan/Honda) being background fodder was also the case in the Japanese Version based on what TV Tropes' article on the Movie has stated, so that much is definitely not the dub's fault.

However, for now, I will comment on what I thought of the voice acting in the dub: I thought it was pretty good. The three standout performances for me from the dub in this aspect were Eric Stuart (Kaiba), Dan Green (Yugi), and Daniel J. Edwards (Aigami): Stuart manages to capture Kaiba's desperation and lust to be the greatest very well here, Green manages to capture Yugi's growth as a character as well as his resolve to never give up nicely, while Edwards manages to capture Aigami's (Deeva/sp?) sinister as well as tragic nature very nicely.

Wayne performs to his usual standard as Joey, and the same can be said of Greg when it comes to Tristan, they were both pretty good, while Amy (it's been a decade since we heard from her, wow) does a pretty good job as Tea, sounding slightly older in the role. Bakura still sounds pretty much the same as well, and I think Serah (sp?) had a pretty mysterious but good voice done by Laurie Hymes, a relatively newcomer to the NYC voice-over pool, who also voices Lillie in the Pokemon: Sun & Moon dub right now.

I felt Marc's take on Duke was average/passable, but he sounded a little off, though it's still fairly similar to his original performance and I can't complain for the most part: the only voice in the dub that annoyed me was this (one-note, doesn't show up again in the Movie, period) bully character who tries to beat Aigami up before Joey stops him, but that's it, the dub does good in the voice acting aspect.

The dub also has at least seven scenes, where there's no music playing at all with complete silence other than the voices, which is a relief from a company that usually likes to blast music wall-to-wall blaring it everywhere: I have heard there were no visual edits or cuts made as well, but again, I cannot confirm this until I see the Japanese Version so I will reserve judgment on that for now. I did, however, manage to see the first minute of the Japanese version in trailer form, and thank god the dub didn't add in any rap intro like the Digimon Tri dub did for its debut (although the cons in this dub's case will probably be greater nonetheless).
EPA Deane
said at 7:51 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
While I do love the film, I do think Joey was a little too side-lined for my liking.

That Duel Disk sub-plot went no where.

That and I wish we could have seen him and Mai Valentine together...... but then that may just be the Mai/Joey shipper in me..... :)
batcool
said at 9:06 PM on Fri Feb 10 2017
 5 Shout Outs!
Brilliant film with a great conclusion to the original series was cool to see these characters again and have the original cast back

Standouts are Dan green and Eric Stuart they still got it and Daniel j Edwards as Aigami

Plus did anyone tear up when Yugi said "I still believe in the heart of the cards" powerful line
EPA Deane
said at 7:46 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@batcool I know I did....

This film easily has one of Dan Green's best performances as Yugi.
batcool
said at 1:23 PM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@EPA Deane yep and Eric Stuart they may not do as much voice acting these but you can tell they still got it and know these characters well
EPA Deane
said at 11:28 AM on Sun Feb 5 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
I saw it Last Night.... and I think this is the Best Yugioh film ever made....

Though It does leave me questioning ..... Where does the Anime Shows Go From here?

Does anyone (aside from me) feel that the Franchise should be rebooted?
WrightWay
said at 10:28 AM on Mon Feb 6 2017
@EPA Deane
I think it's best that Yu-Gi-Oh is trying new things for its newer shows, and tried to resolve Yugi & Kaiba's rivalry here building upon what was presented in the Anime, rather than soullessly rebooting what was already presented beforehand, but that's my take on it.
EPA Deane
said at 6:25 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@WrightWay What I mean was A full reboot of the Yugioh Universe..... with a different cast of characters..... and a different backstory for Duel Monsters.
WrightWay
said at 6:59 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@EPA Deane
Oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense now- still, I feel things are fine as is in that aspect, but I see your point.
EPA Deane
said at 7:53 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@WrightWay How long do you think It will take before that would Attempted?
WrightWay
said at 8:01 AM on Sun Feb 12 2017
@EPA Deane
I'm not sure: I think it would depend on whether Kazuki Takahashi & TV Tokyo, NAS, Studio Gallop etc. would like to see it happen or not. I honestly think it's good that they're leaving it alone & going onward with new protagonists & stories, though, often times revisiting the same people's tales & rehashing them endlessly can end up milking the memory of something to the point where a Series becomes unrecognizable as what it once was entirely, IMO.
WrightWay
said at 11:05 PM on Fri Feb 3 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
Good news (again, thanks to 1dbad, they've been a lifesaver on the updates): the Dark Side of Dimensions English-release will be Dual Audio so we get the English and Japanese Versions released together, so everyone gets to be happy in the end.
FF91
said at 2:26 PM on Sat Feb 4 2017
@WrightWay Really?!? Oh man, happy day! :D
WrightWay
said at 5:23 PM on Sat Feb 4 2017
@FF91
Yup, not kidding, quoting this right from the fan page 4KMedia/Konami set up on Facebook when someone asked when the Movie will be available on DVD:

"Yu-Gi-Oh! Fan Page Donnell C Coleman Jr. That is in Japan. The US/CA release will be later this year, date still be finalized. It will include both versions of the movie (English and Japanese with English Subs)
6 · February 2 at 5:44pm"

So in this case, no one loses out in the end, it could be much worse- just wish the music replacing & unnecessary script changes would stop for the Yu-Gi-Oh Movie dubs since the voice acting, silence & lack of editing were all fine from what I've heard- I don't know to what extent the script was altered in the dub, though, some say it's very minimal with most of the script left intact & just dumb one-liners here/there, while others say whole plot points got changed, so I'll have to wait until I can compare the two in earnest before I can gauge the dub's quality overall (imo).
EPA Deane
said at 1:54 AM on Mon Jan 30 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
Of The Three Theatrically Released YuGiOh films, I can (at the very least) say that this has the Best Animation.
WrightWay
said at 10:59 PM on Fri Feb 3 2017
@EPA Deane
I agree, and I'd say it's the best English dubbed Yu-Gi-Oh Movie of the three as well based on what I've heard, though there are still two particular issues holding it back from being as well dubbed as it could've been (both of which shouldn't have been issues since this same studio has handled multiple films' dubs better in the past in both departments, when handling a certain other show they used to dub before the rights were taken away & even some Uncut releases of its other properties, this one included).

I'll give them major props for retaining the silence and improved acting, kudos to them for those important steps in the right direction.
GreenGoblin75
said at 2:21 PM on Sun Jan 29 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
This was really great. The entire cast was in top form.
EPA Deane
said at 11:19 AM on Sun Feb 5 2017
@GreenGoblin75 Darren Dunstan's voice direction was excellent.
FF91
said at 11:07 AM on Fri Jan 27 2017
The 27th has arrived! Has anyone seen the movie yet?
WrightWay
said at 1:21 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@FF91
I found a review of it on ANN if you're interested (thanks to 1dbad for the information regarding that who informed me about it), but I'm planning to see it in a few weeks: dub got a "B+" rating so it seems at least average enough at worst, to be watchable nonetheless.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/yu-gi-oh-the-dark-side-of-dimensions/.111557
Firion2
said at 2:42 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@WrightWay i guess they will review sub version sometimes in this march.
WrightWay
said at 2:44 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@Firion2
That sounds about right to me, yeah.
Firion2
said at 2:47 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@WrightWay because blu ray version will release on 8th march in japan and it would be only matter of time fansubbers will sub the movie. And when they post the movie, i will order pizza that day and enjoy the movie.
FF91
said at 6:24 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@Firion2
Same with me... because I don't trust the dub version right now. I just know it was badly butchered despite the trailers looking and sounding promising.
Firion2
said at 1:29 PM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@FF91 high five then. Glad i am not the only one who prefer seiyuus rather than dub when it comes to yugioh
WrightWay
said at 7:11 PM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@FF91
From what I heard, they didn't do any visual cuts or edits, they kept silent moments, and the voice acting was up to par, so those aspects turned out alright. The real issues to me lie in the music changing nonsense, although this dub music is listenable enough compared to what it could've been (still, it shouldn't be a thing in 2017, but Pokemon & Saban's Glitter Force are still doing this along with Yu-Gi-Oh here, unfortunately, even Beyblade finally got its act together with Burst on that front despite the opening being changed), and the script is supposedly 70% accurate, 30% nonsense one liners, with character motivation alterations tossed in.

I haven't got to compare them yet or seen them, though, this is just word of mouth from what the fandom is saying who saw both the dub & sub.
NoOriginalUsername
said at 8:32 PM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@FF91 I saw it today. It was pretty good. There are plotholes, but in regards to voice acting, just about everyone except Duke is fantastic. This is the best the 4Kids cast has ever been. It makes me hope that maybe a reboot or something could happen.
GreenGoblin75
said at 2:21 PM on Sun Jan 29 2017
@FF91
Watched it in theaters. They did not screw it up.
TheDayman
said at 9:37 PM on Sun Jan 22 2017
 1 Shout Out!
Do Duke, Tea, Tristan, and Bakura have their original dub VO's?
GreenGoblin75
said at 2:30 PM on Mon Jan 23 2017
@TheDayman
Everyone except Duke sounds like it, although it could just be Marc Thompson trying something new.
WrightWay
said at 2:52 PM on Tue Jan 24 2017
@GreenGoblin75
Well, except Yugi's Grandfather, but that sadly can't be helped due to the late Maddie Blaustein passing away, of course. Wayne Grayson's performance in the part is getting better than it was before, thankfully.

Duke is still Marc Thompson in the dub, yup- he just sounds a little off compared to his previous performance: probably a bit rusty since he hasn't voiced that part in years, so he might be getting acclimated to it again or trying something new as you said.
WrightWay
said at 9:33 PM on Thu Jan 19 2017
 3 Shout Outs!
I'm also posting a lot here (sorry if that's annoying people here), but check it out, there's ACTUAL...COMPLETE...SILENCE IN THIS SCENE. No wall-to-wall music here- just pure silence! I haven't heard this in any English dub 4KMedia has produced from their studio, post Pokemon Movie 8!

https://www.facebook.com/Yugioh/videos/1417322534953443/

Honestly, I feel Dan sounds just great as Yugi Muto, too, it's really awesome to see the dub showing such promise, in spite of my apprehension before, to viewing it. Sure, there's still the issue about dub music that hinders it a little, but everything else seems really solid here!

I also have to give Wayne Grayson some credit here, his Sugoroku (in the dub, Solomon, I still don't mind the name changes) Muto is sounding less forced than I felt it did in the previous trailer and in the Bonds Beyond Time Film, good for him.

...

...

This makes me wonder why Arc V's dub can't be handled even close to this decently?
1dbad
said at 12:25 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@WrightWay I wouldn't go as far as saying 4K Media doesn't care about the spin-offs, but every single spin-off thus far has done poorly on American television. It's no wonder they aren't putting as much effort into their dubs as a DM movie. DM was one of 4Kids biggest hits, as well as one of their flagship titles.

I'm really impressed by what I've seen of the dub. The acting, the scripting, the scoring (and use of silence!), etc. is of a higher caliber than usual for their dubs. I've heard they even did a better job with the humor. They still added more than what was in the original, but were better about timing it not to be during inappropriate moments.

The only complaint I've seen in the reviews so far is 4K Media messed with character motivations as usual. ANN's review specifically mentioned Aigami's motives seeming confusing and unclear. I've also seen moviegoers say Kaiba's motivation in particular is no where near as poignant as the Japanese version. (Kaiba grieving over the loss of a friend is reduced to merely being bitter he never won)
WrightWay
said at 12:33 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@1dbad
Fair enough, but they could be handling those at a more professional level, to put it lightly: at least they're offering the Japanese Version with English subtitles for DM-5D's & some of Zexal so far, so I can forgive that, it could be worse in that aspect.

Oh dear...I see there are still script changes, I feared this...I hope there's more good to come out of the Movie than bad, though (based on what you're saying, there's hope otherwise).
1dbad
said at 1:41 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@WrightWay Oh, I 100% agree. I was just offering my guess for the difference in quality. I actually think the lesser efforts with the spin-offs is a big part of why they're failing here.

It honestly broke my heart a little - my hopes were getting so high from the clips. :( But, I still think it's going to be worth the watch. There's more good than bad, and it's a shocking amount of progress from a company largely set in their ways. Fingers crossed they can start applying this level of quality to future series dubs as well.
WrightWay
said at 1:50 AM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@1dbad
No problem, you're fine, sorry for not clarifying what I meant earlier. I also agree with you: that's probably a big factor as well.

Same here! This is at least a big step up from the usual fare we've come to expect from Yu-Gi-Oh dubs by now. And apart from Kaiba and Aigami's motivation script changes, it appears nothing else of importance was altered with the script outside of the one-liners based on the review ANN did, so it seems mostly solid based on that.

Side note: I find it rather amusing how Eric Stuart actually seems to understand Kaiba's character more than the script writers for the dub do based on this. As for Kenjiro Tsuda, I honestly don't disagree with his conclusion either.

http://real-life-pine-tree.tumblr.com/post/154383447976/how-kaibas-voice-actor-sees-him
1dbad
said at 3:46 PM on Sat Jan 28 2017
@WrightWay No worries. :)

Definitely! The level of improvement here is something worth supporting. I'd like to, but I'm not sure I'll be able to catch it in theaters... But at the very least, I'll pre-order the Blu-Ray as soon as it is available!

It's hilariously ironic how their comments work just as well if you flip the version they're talking about. XD I agree with them both! it's great seeing they understand their characters so well, even with the script changes. :)
EPA Deane
said at 2:25 AM on Sat Jun 3 2017
@WrightWay I will say that Kaiba's motivations being different from the original Japanese wight have been done by the adapters to be more consistant with his characterisation in the 4Kids dub....

That's just my opinion on the changes....
WrightWay
said at 2:50 AM on Sat Jun 3 2017
@EPA Deane
They didn't mess around as much with Kaiba's dialogue in this Movie as often as they normally do, thankfully. He still has sarcastic quips like in the old 4Kids dub, but they're a lot more limited in scope. Your theory checks out, though, imo.
GreenGoblin75
said at 2:05 PM on Tue Jan 10 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
I know I'm posting a lot, but thought people would like to hear the man himself (no not Dan, at least not yet).

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DBb4s-CxQ44

He sounds really great here.
WrightWay
said at 5:18 PM on Fri Jan 20 2017
@GreenGoblin75
Agreed- I like how seriously Eric Stuart is taking the role this time, and based on his statements here, he seems to have understood how Kaiba is in this Movie & the character in general.

Here's one for Aigami's dub VA, too, nice to see Daniel J. Edwards get a really high-profile sort of role here. He's one of the newer VAs in the NYC talent pool, and I think he really seems to care about his work as this character and appreciates the opportunity he's been given.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWc6DLjJr0M
WrightWay
said at 8:55 PM on Mon Jan 9 2017
A new sneak peek for everyone: call me crazy, but I now genuinely have a really good feeling about this dub. It's definitely not going to be the best dub 4KMedia has produced in their tenure with dubbing (yes, I'm serious, they have actually done better than this before), but it's probably the best I've seen the Yu-Gi-Oh property handled in English (other than the short-lived Uncut dub of DM back in 2004).

https://ravegrl.wordpress.com/2017/01/07/after-graduation-yugioh-the-dark-side-of-dimensions-sneak-peek-video/

My only regret? Well, that the two biggest stars of the Movie are being saved for last, and same applies to their English VAs, who I have a feeling will pretty much knock it out of the park. :)
SNaG
said at 10:59 PM on Mon Jan 9 2017
@WrightWay Out of curiosity, what are the better ones? I'd like to check em out.
WrightWay
said at 11:01 PM on Mon Jan 9 2017
@SNaG
Pokemon Movies 4 & 6-8, imo: they are easily the most faithful adaptations 4Kids/4KMedia did of any of the productions they put out, in terms of acting, scripting, keeping the Japanese OST, etc, easily their finest works.
SNaG
said at 12:52 AM on Mon Jan 9 2017
 2 Shout Outs!
This might be the best the dub has sounded. They seem to have done some OST changes (which sucks) as well as making the cards English (nice touch!), I'll definitely watch this twice though I'll probably have to wait for the Blu-ray set (hope it's dual audio) to do so.
FF91
said at 11:00 AM on Fri Jan 6 2017
 1 Shout Out!
It's all good and all... but a part of me is still extremely worried on how the full movie will be handled.

I honestly hope it will be uncut. No edits, no cut scenes, etc.. Otherwise, I'm gonna be very disappointed.
WrightWay
said at 1:31 PM on Fri Jan 6 2017
@FF91
I don't think there are going to be any visual edits since they weren't in Bonds Beyond Time's dub and the page said there wouldn't be twice now (let's hope they're not trolling), but what I am fearful of is the scripting (though so far it's surprisingly accurate, which I can only hope is the case in the actual Movie). Voice cast is actually very competent, too, so that works for me. Silence is something 4KMedia/Konami (along with Saban, DuArt/TPCi, Nelvana, you know the rest, etc.) normally has an aversion to, so it's nice to hear that as well.

There is only one issue I have right now with the dubbing, and one alone: the music re-scoring. While the dub score is actually mostly well composed based off the sneak peek and the trailer (except that "beach" theme), that's what bothers me more than anything. Having said this, I've had to put up with a lot worse in terms of dub music than this (e.g.) Mark Menza's DBGT score, Nathan Johnson's DBZ Remastered score, Ed Goldfarb's Pokemon XY(Z) score, so I have a high tolerance for it by now.
FF91
said at 9:32 AM on Sat Jan 7 2017
@WrightWay I just hope that the claim that no visual edits or scene cuts being present wasn't a lie (the scripting I'm hoping for is also REALLY up to par). Otherwise, I'm gonna be very angry.
WrightWay
said at 12:11 PM on Sat Jan 7 2017
@FF91
Me too: trust me, you're not alone on that account. I'll be honest in saying my main reason for watching the dub of this is because I have a great respect for the dub voice cast's talents, even if I don't feel things could potentially pan out too well in the dubbing department (so far, it seems decent, but like you I'm a little hesitant right now).
Sahgo
said at 5:21 PM on Sat Jan 7 2017
@WrightWay What scares me the most about the music is that -- no offense to whoever likes it -- Zexal's and Arc-V's scores are pretty terrible, and this is coming from someone who never liked DM's and GX's scores all that much. I agree with you that it sounds a lot better in the trailer, and I HOPE I can say the same about the movie, but... it's just, those two are so bad...
WrightWay
said at 5:27 PM on Sat Jan 7 2017
@Sahgo
I know what you mean: I just hope that the trailer and sneak peek are indicative of the actual Movie's dub quality and not a big old cocktease (apologies to anyone who reads this if that wording is inappropriate, not sure how else to phrase it properly). I am very grateful for the use of silence, the scripting being on point in these previews, and the voice cast's talent, at least, so that alone gives me some real hope for this to be tolerable.
GreenGoblin75
said at 9:28 PM on Thu Jan 5 2017
 4 Shout Outs!
Sneak Peak: https://youtube.com/watchv=wJhoDoTZuYI

Sounds like "I'm Back" playing in the background. Always loved that track.
1dbad
said at 9:21 PM on Wed Jan 4 2017
 6 Shout Outs!
Crunchyroll gave us our first English clip of the film (be warned, it spoils something from the final episode of the series): https://www.facebook.com/Crunchyroll/videos/10154514647664340/

Everyone's sounding good, and it's great to hear Wayne Grayson's Joey again. It's nice hearing some background silence too. (considering 4K Media usually goes track-to-track with their scoring)
Sahgo
said at 5:35 PM on Thu Jan 5 2017
I love how the voice direction is being handled. Even back in 2001 it was all "SHOUT ALL YOUR LINES AND NEVER LOWER YOUR VOICES EVER". It's great to hear some nuance
GreenGoblin75
said at 5:43 PM on Thu Jan 5 2017
@1dbad
The hype is real.
GreenGoblin75
said at 10:13 AM on Tue Jan 3 2017
 7 Shout Outs!
NEW ENGLISH Trailer: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PG3sUoY61es

TED'S BACK. AMY'S BACK. Aigami sounds great.
1dbad
said at 10:57 PM on Tue Jan 3 2017
@GreenGoblin75 I'm pleasantly surprised by the trailer. Voice direction sounds good, the scoring is a big improvement over Arc-V's score, and Daniel J. Edwards makes a great Aigami. Only scripting change is so far is Kaiba's "Burst Stream of Destruction" being changed to "Unleash your fury, Blue-Eyes", which is also promising.

Wish they would have included a clip of Joey though. I want to hear Wayne Grayson again!
WrightWay
said at 2:24 AM on Wed Jan 4 2017
@GreenGoblin75
Going solely off this trailer:

- Aigami's dub voice is good.
- Tea's dub voice is good, I like how she sounds a little older.
- Kaiba's dub voice is good, and I really like how he's not shouting all his lines.
- Yugi's dub voice is good, and I like that it's not too deep.
- The dub score is actually listenable and not poorly made.
- Duke sounds a little off, but his dub voice is still decent.
- Script is accurate, except for that second line of Kaiba's, which isn't written in a stupid way, so I can give it a pass.
- Bakura's dub voice is good.

I can only hope the actual dub is handled this well.
Firion2
said at 5:21 AM on Mon Jan 2 2017
The blu ray of sub is releasing on 8th March. So i am gonna wait for that.
GreenGoblin75
said at 6:30 AM on Mon Nov 21 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
So that's our Aigami.
1dbad
said at 1:27 AM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@GreenGoblin75 He should be good! He's been one of the few highlights of an otherwise lacklaster Arc-V dub.
WrightWay
said at 3:50 AM on Wed Jan 4 2017
@1dbad
He's very good, surprisingly! I haven't been particularly impressed with Daniel J Edwards' VO elsewhere, either, so I have to commend him for his Aigami appearing to be so wonderful.
GreenGoblin75
said at 9:00 PM on Tue Nov 15 2016
 1 Shout Out!
New trailer is out with new release date: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JefCnvhwp0U
Shaun Ince
said at 7:27 AM on Sun Oct 16 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Been a while since Yu-Gi-Oh was on the big screen. I'll have to check out tbhis movie sometime & see what I think if it.
WrightWay
said at 11:08 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
Good news: The Yu-Gi-Oh page on Facebook said it's going to be Uncut like the Bonds Beyond Time Movie was, so we won't be seeing any scene cuts/edits if this is true.

Confirmation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ1mlljCC4g & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gYyGRLeKc8

Also, Dan Green, Eric Stuart, and Tara Jayne are all reprising their roles (and I personally would rather take their portrayals over those Odex voices any day of the week).

Bad news: Even if that's true, they need to leave the Japanese music alone, unlike what they did in the Trailer- that's my only fear about this, honestly. And no, Konami/4KMedia shouldn't be doing this anymore, when 4KMedia were run by 4Kids back in the day, and dubbed Pokemon of all things, they actually left ALL the Japanese background music intact for Movies 4 to 8 of Pokemon. Heck, even when 4Kids did that Uncut dub for 9 episodes of Duel Monsters back in '04, so again, the OST shouldn't be touched since they HAVE left it alone before when dubbing other stuff.

Only TPCi/DuArt (current Pokemon dubbers) and Saban (IIRC) are still replacing almost all the Japanese music in the Movies & Anime to this day, apart from them, so 4KMedia/Konami should follow suit with pretty much every other dubber these days, and just keep the OST. And don't pull a Digimon Tri dub on us with the opening, please, no rap.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:46 AM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@WrightWay I do recall liking the dub music they used for Bonds Beyond Time actually. But yes it would be ideal if they did just left the JP music alone this time around.
SNaG
said at 7:26 AM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@WrightWay Except for a small handful of tracks, the sub music is way better. I am attached to a few of the themes they used in the dubbed series, so if they recycled/remastered those I wouldn't be too upset (though the original music is way better).

I just don't want them to make *new* music for this, that'll be the worst outcome in general IMO.
FF91
said at 4:17 PM on Fri Oct 14 2016
@WrightWay Uncut, eh? I'm really hoping that this is true. It'll make me (And likely hundreds to thousands of fans) very happy.
WrightWay
said at 10:22 PM on Fri Oct 14 2016
@FF91
Same here, I hope the page was not trolling us, or I'll be disappointed. I'll still watch it to see the original dub cast back, though, they were/are a pretty good voice cast even if I don't care for the localization done in the actual dub.
FF91
said at 1:28 PM on Sat Oct 15 2016
@WrightWay Same here.
Firion2
said at 3:11 AM on Wed Oct 26 2016
@WrightWay that's nice but I will still watch Sub version. Besides, I adore yugi and kaiba's seiyuus more than English.
WrightWay
said at 9:16 AM on Wed Oct 26 2016
@Firion

Nothing wrong with that, really, Kazama & Tsuda are great in my book as well.
SNaG
said at 8:37 PM on Sat Nov 12 2016
@Firion2 Por que no los dos?

I enjoy the sub version heavily too but I did like Dan and Eric's performances a lot in the original YGO, even though the scriptwriting wasn't that good (putting it lightly) they were very true to the characters. I'll probably watch it twice for the nostalgia.
Firion2
said at 11:47 AM on Sun Nov 13 2016
@SNaG and @WrightWay
Here's a quick catch why I like seiyuus more.

Yugi: Shunsuke Kazama's roles in both Yugis are pretty amazing. It feels like both Yugis are voiced by same guy and they are Teens or young adults while Dan's roles was pretty different. He is okay as Dark Yugi but as normal Yugi, it looks like gayish.

Kaiba: Kenjiro has bossy voice compared to Eric Stuart. It feels like Kaiba isn't some ordinary man. If anyone has bossy voice in English,it would be crispin Freeman.

Takahiro Sakurai and Shunsuke Kazama are my top 2 when it comes to seiyuus.
1dbad
said at 1:35 AM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@WrightWay Unfortunately, this isn't saying much. None of the movie dubs have cut/edited any scenes so far. The issues with them have been with the scripts, and it doesn't seem they're going to be handling this movie any differently.

And it's already been confirmed that the movie will be entirely rescored. Which is a shame, but par the course for Yugioh. But on the upside, they brought back the original dub composer of DM to do it, so the score will be of a higher caliber than the current Yugioh dubs. He's promised some updated versions of favorite themes too.
WrightWay
said at 10:00 AM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@1dbad
I see nothing has actually changed as usual, unfortunately: I at least hope the script isn't altered this time around- if they handled like they did for Duel Monsters during Duelist Kingdom & DOMA's Arcs and don't mess around like with Battle City or Memory World, I'll be fine with it, though.

And great, another Series that won't stopped re-scoring Movies with dub music, as if Pokemon isn't bad enough about this nowadays. I mean, I don't think Joel D. is nearly as bad a composer as whoever does the Arc V dub's stuff or Ed Goldfarb from the current Pokemon dub, but still, dub scoring is frankly unacceptable to me in 2016, no matter who does it.

The only reason I'll be watching this dubbed is for Dan Green, Eric Stuart, and Wayne Grayson, honestly, it's been too long since I've heard anything major from them, and I think they're legitimately good VAs put under such constraints, it sucks.
1dbad
said at 5:43 PM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@WrightWay Bonds Beyond Time's script was pretty messy, so I'm afraid to get my hopes up.

Completely agree. Thankfully re-scores aren't as common nowadays, but localized dubs are still behind in that regard. I'm hoping the success of Yo-Kai Watch (a localized dub that kept the original score!) will start a trend in other localized dubs doing the same.

Understandable! It's too bad they have yet to join Rachel Lillis, Veronica Taylor, Megan Hollingshead, etc. and move to LA. I'd love to hear more work from them, and LA would give them a lot more opportunities. (including uncut stuff!)
AntiSabat666
said at 8:36 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
 1 Shout Out!
They should have redubbed this completely. The old dub was poorly acted and poorly scripted and edited. New cast, too.
Torak
said at 11:52 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
@AntiSabat666 Redubbed this in English you mean? That seems a little unfair considering we haven't even seen an English trailer with any dialogue yet. Excluding that special reading Dan and Eric did at the World Championships this year.

A lot of people including myself liked the 4Kids' anime dub so I'm happy to see some of their actors back. I'm sorry if you don't agree.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:40 AM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@AntiSabat666 New Cast? Nah, Eric Stuart and Dan Green are fine really. Hopefully they get back Ted Lewis for Bakura as well! He was also one of my favourites in that dub.
AntiSabat666
said at 12:29 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@HylianBelmont The YGO dub sucked like all 4kids dubs by default. Poor acting and vibe.
AntiSabat666
said at 12:30 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@Torak They like it because of nostalgia, not because it was good.
HylianBelmont
said at 12:39 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@AntiSabat666 Not my fault you've never watched Ultimate Muscle, Kirby right back at ya, and Shaman King!

But seriously. I did think those were good efforts from them!
Torak
said at 12:47 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@AntiSabat666 I think you're missing the point. Me and my friends thought the dub was good. Your opinions don't determine if voice acting is objectively good or bad. Thats why they're called opinions buddy. I suggest you take your bigoted opinions somewhere else.
WrightWay
said at 2:15 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@HylianBelmont
I liked their Pokemon dub, and their Dinosaur King dub, seeing as they left most of the Japanese music alone in both, and the voice acting as well as script translation were pretty solid as a whole.

@Torak
The voice acting was pretty good in the Yu-Gi-Oh: Duel Monsters dub, really- if anything, that was my smallest issue with their dubbing of the Series as a whole, so I fail to see AntiSabat666's point on that particular statement. Regardless, I'm glad to see the old dub cast back, and I hope they get the chance to work with more than they did in the past.
AntiSabat666
said at 2:50 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@Torak So script changes, silly accents and music changes are opinions?

If a dub is reasonably scripted, acted and is left alone (generally) then the quality of that dub is subject to opinion. I.E, the Code Geass dub is controversial. Others think it's an awesome dub and among the best, some think it's bad. But Geass' dub is a YMMV kind of dub.

YGO is not, so I don't see how liking it is based on actual quality. It's a bad dub because it evidently commits all the dubbing sins. It isn't well directed, so the acting suffers. It doesn't have the right feeling, so it's barely the show.
AntiSabat666
said at 2:52 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@HylianBelmont Those dubs also suffered from the sins of dubbing. There cannot be such a thing as a good or average 4kids dub based on objective production. At least badly voiced dubs like Zeta Gundam and AB Groupe's versions of DB and DBGT had accurate scripts.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 4:58 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@AntiSabat666

While it is fine for people to have their own opinions, telling people their opinions are wrong or directly insulting them is not acceptable. It is possible to discuss differences in opinion in a civil way. This is your final warning.
WrightWay
said at 5:45 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@AntiSabat666

Not that I'm defending their actions or anything, and I'd say you're right for the most part, but I think there was/is actually such a thing as an objectively average (arguably good) 4Kids-dubbed product that exists. Notably, the 6th-8th Pokemon Movies, the 9 episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh they released Uncut, and the 13 or so episodes of Shaman King released Uncut: those are average enough in my book, since they don't alter anything outside of maybe two lines, and I guess the ending song in the latter two Movies case, but that's literally it. Criticizing them was definitely justified when they were around as they were doing damage then, but I feel it's gotten old now, since it's 2016...and they've been gone since 2011?

Here's another example of a 4Kids dub production that altered pretty much nothing, music included:

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/jouto/ep152.html

"Edit-wise, it's a boring Jouto episode. I mean, I never thought I'd say this, but I just wish there was some digital paint or cut or SOMETHING I could report. Even Miki (whose pants look really really form-fitting) keeps her Japanese name, which is something I never expected."

And with this example, only a third of the Japanese music was changed, but two thirds was kept, and nothing else was altered- the script was 100% accurate, no silly accents, etc.

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/jouto/ep193.html

Even then, there are other dub companies that still exist continuing their practices in the script rewriting, music changing, scene cutting, questionable acting etc. departments regard like Saban, Nelvana, 4KMedia (Konami) here, and TPCi, so it's not like 4Kids were/are the only ones guilty of this (DiC was as well, but they're gone now as well, so I see no need to bash on them, either).

All of this being said, I do hope 4KMedia/Konami enters the 21st century with this Movie in dubbing practices already (though I doubt it), but most kids' Anime dubbers in general still have this mindset that alterations still needs to be made to this day. I personally don't agree with it at all, but it can't be helped.
HylianBelmont
said at 8:56 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@AntiSabat666 I I guess I can understand your perspective there. Even if I don't entirely agree with it.

But I personally just feel that the shows I mentioned (Ultimate Muscle especially!) actually just...worked so well with the way 4Kids dubbed it. Feel free to disagree with me I suppose!
Torak
said at 3:12 PM on Wed Oct 12 2016
@AntiSabat666 http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
huzaifa_ahmed
said at 12:47 PM on Sat Oct 15 2016
@WrightWay The problem with the reception of dubs is that "Memorable, but heavily localized dub"? Gets love if it's introduced early on, gets hate by later fans & hardcore fans. Like Dragon Ball.

Versus "Respectful, but average (or even good) DVD or TV dub"? Gets hate from fans who've seen it subbed, & everyone eventually switches to watching it subbed online anyway.

I would say that dubbing, especially anime dubbing, is an incredibly underpaid, inherently underappreciated job.

Video games avoid this because it's much harder to translate a whole game than to just subtitle episodes. & they also have a Japanese-owned platform as the mainstream. & when they come out, they're often dub-only (ahem Atlus).

In a way, I think anime fans (especially "subs for life" types) terribly dismiss the positive effect that 4Kids & other localizers had on anime fandom. We wouldn't even have the level of acceptance there is currently. & even an awful dub like the old FUNi DBZ dub *allowed for more subtitled home releases*.

& Pokemon's older dubs were just great.
EPA Deane
said at 1:37 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@WrightWay I feel that the 4Kids dub of Pokemon 3: Spell of The Unknown was on par with the Original Japanese..... that and I slightly preferred the adapted Score in the Dub.
WrightWay
said at 2:18 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@EPA Deane
I'd agree with you for the most part: my only problem with that Movie's dub was the score being changed, personally, but I will say that I do think 4Kids' dub music for that Pokemon Movie (the last one before they began keeping the Japanese background music in the remainder of their Pokemon dub films) was a lot better than TPCi's dub music scores for Movies 17 and 18 lately.
GreenGoblin75
said at 11:52 AM on Thu Oct 6 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
Hey, it's coming out on my birthday!
HylianBelmont
said at 7:57 AM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@GreenGoblin75 That's kinda cool!
GreenGoblin75
said at 2:53 PM on Thu Sep 29 2016
 2 Shout Outs!
While I could see Greg, Wayne, & Ted coming back, I'm REALLY curious to see if they'll bring back Amy Birnhaum.
EPA Deane
said at 4:57 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
@GreenGoblin75 If she can't, I think this could be chance for Sarah Natochenny to try a decent performance
WrightWay
said at 10:46 AM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@GreenGoblin75
More good news: it seems like all the original English cast are back, so that's possibly meaning Amy Birnbaum may be coming out of retirement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27DnetPKGUE
EPA Deane
said at 1:31 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@WrightWay If she can't return.... then I nominate Sarah Natochenny as her replacement..... please don't hate me for saying this.
WrightWay
said at 1:59 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@EPA Deane
I don't really like Sarah Natochenny's voice acting myself, but I can see where you're coming from, and I respect your opinion.
EPA Deane
said at 2:16 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@WrightWay Her potential as a voice actress is being confined by poor material.

This could be a role that gets her outside of her ill-fitting typecasting.

Emily Jenness would be a decent alternative voice for Tea.
WrightWay
said at 2:23 PM on Sat Oct 22 2016
@EPA Deane
That's absolutely true: I don't like the script/dialogue she has to work with, in particular, very few could make those lines she has to say sound good to me.

You raise a pretty good point, and I think that alternative is suitable, too.
EPA Deane
said at 11:46 PM on Fri Nov 11 2016
@WrightWay On that note Ted Lewis ( the voice of Giovanni and Bakura) is also being held back by poor direction and script writing in the current Pokemon dub. So it's not a singular occurance.
WrightWay
said at 1:27 AM on Sat Nov 12 2016
@EPA Deane
True, poor (and/or nonexistent in the case of Tom Wayland & most of DuArt's tenure) vocal direction, unfunny as well as excessive script rewrites, lazy, shortened intros, as well as excessive music replacement pretty much describe TPCi's Pokemon dub in general to me at this point. You'd think after a decade, it would be tolerable, but the dub is actually worse than ever lately. Thank god for the Japanese Version with English subtitles, is all I can say: unlike the current dub, I think they still put legitimate effort into their work.
SteelEthlan
said at 10:04 PM on Sun Sep 25 2016
 3 Shout Outs!
This might be an excellent opportunity if NYAV Post would take over this movie and have Michael himself direct this, just to get each voice acting veterans back, along with newcomers.
SNaG
said at 7:12 PM on Wed Aug 24 2016
 7 Shout Outs!
While the dub localization has never sat well with me, I've always appreciated the dub performances even if the directing choices were dodgy. Here's hoping to the return of all the original cast - hearing Dan and Eric are coming back is a delight.
HylianBelmont
said at 12:15 AM on Thu Sep 1 2016
@SNaG That's actually why I can't watch the JP versions of Yu-Gi-Oh/GX/5DS despite knowing they're the "superior" versions of the show to watch. Because the performances brought by people like Dan Green, Eric Stuart, Marc Thompson, Wayne Grayson, Greg Abbey etc.
SNaG
said at 11:58 PM on Mon Sep 5 2016
@HylianBelmont Eh. I feel that after the original series, the quality differential between the dub and sub is much much much greater. The directing gets much much worse. As do the scripts and localizations. 5D's dub was a travesty.

Even more so than localization, a huge sticking point is music, and honestly, except for a small handful of songs in the first series, the original Japanese soundtrack just elevates the series so much, and is one of the main reasons I prefer the subbed versions.

Despite this, I did enjoy a lot of the original Yu-Gi-Oh dub and the cast put out much better performances than later incarnations of the series in my mind (on the other hand, I feel that the seiyuus get better with each passing series, though Kenjiro Tsuda as Kaiba is always A+).
HylianBelmont
said at 12:09 AM on Tue Sep 6 2016
@SNaG Honestly? In an ideal world they would have kept realising the uncut dub they were doing (I think it got to around episode 11?) but unfortunately they didn't sadly. Due to low sales I think...
SNaG
said at 10:45 AM on Tue Sep 6 2016
@HylianBelmont Despite the oddness of "Joey Katsuya" I enjoyed that and was saddened that it didn't continue. Best of both worlds.
HylianBelmont
said at 12:56 PM on Tue Sep 6 2016
@SNaG They did try to mix in the JP names with the English ones didn't they? But that aside I did think the voice acting in the first episode wasn't as good as cut dub was (I believe someone else also said that on the fourms) but it improved a lot around episode 3 and I was sad they didn't continue.

But yeah, I'll admit my enjoyment of the 4Kids dubs of the Yugioh series despite their faults is pretty much based on nostalgia (kind of hypocritical I suppose) and the fact that I got really interested in voice actors because of the series in general.
Fancy Ken
said at 4:42 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
@SNaG 5Ds dub was perfect in terms of VA, the problem was the censorship.
SNaG
said at 7:00 AM on Sun Oct 9 2016
@Fancy Ken I greatly disagree, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
HylianBelmont
said at 4:44 AM on Mon Oct 10 2016
@Fancy Ken I do agree that most of the casting choices were fine. But yeah, the obvious edits were pretty distracting at times...
SNaG
said at 5:48 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@Fancy Ken I must apologize, I read this as simply "perfect," and not "perfect in terms of VA."

Allow me to qualify my statement, a lot of the cast was good, but not entirely perfect. I personally disliked the fact that Ted Lewis adopted a distracting Australian accent just to convey Jack as a jerk. Also I thought Greg was trying to differentiate from his Tristain and sounded a bit too old for Yusei.

But the bigger problems with 5D's were definitely censorship and localization. First season of 5D's had a lot of good themes that were dampened in the dub (from what I remember).

But back to the movie, hopefully it has good VO and the uncut version is good!
Fancy Ken
said at 6:53 PM on Tue Oct 11 2016
@SNaG I can see where people get frustrated with Australian Jack, but I personally found it great. As you said, everyone has their opinions and I respect yours.
1dbad
said at 1:42 AM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@HylianBelmont Actually, the uncut dub did sell well. But Al Kahn feared it would compete with the DVD sales of the edited dub, so he put the uncut dub on "indefinite hiatus". The odds are pretty slim, but I keep hoping 4K Media will be willing to give it another shot at some point.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:39 AM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@1dbad Is that so? Interesting then...

Perhaps one day we'll get the ideal Yugioh dubs (with most of the original cast preferably) after all! Even though the odds are, as you said, pretty slim.
1dbad
said at 5:48 PM on Mon Nov 28 2016
@HylianBelmont Yup! He talked about them in a 2005 Anime News Network interview.

It's too bad they aren't taking advantage of the current timing. Between the original series getting a Blu-Ray release in Japan, interest in the subtitled version growing thanks to Crunchyroll legally streaming it, and the upcoming release of DSOD, the time is ripe for redub.
HylianBelmont
said at 2:13 AM on Mon May 15 2017
@Fancy Ken This convo is a tad old... but I'd say Jack's accent is more Cockney than Australian. Perhaps they just figured it worked rather well with Jack's snooty, yet kind character?
HylianBelmont
said at 2:21 AM on Mon May 15 2017
@SNaG I came back to this conversation out of mere boredom... And I just figured I'd clear a few things up.

I didn't mean "I've never watched the JP version because lol nostalgic dub voices" and honestly I've never felt that way in the slightest (there were even times back in the day on Youtube where I'd watch both the Eng and JP versions of certain episodes back to back, haha) That was all some... rather bad wording on my part and I apologise. I simply meant I can't bring myself to condemn EVERYTHING about the dubs despite certain factors etc. Hopefully you can understand what I truly meant now.
FF91
said at 5:06 PM on Sun Aug 21 2016
 7 Shout Outs!
I have high hopes for this film, especially with Dan Green and Eric Stuart both returning as Yugi and Kaiba respectively.

But a part of me is very, very worried though...I feel that 4K Media is going to butcher this movie badly, I just know it.
1dbad
said at 4:33 AM on Mon Aug 22 2016
@FF91 Probably, if their past work on the franchise is any indication.

But the Japanese version will likely be included on the home video release, if Bonds Beyond Time is any indication. Enjoy the dub for the nostalgia, and then you can rewatch the movie subbed.
tlemmens10
said at 10:07 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
 6 Shout Outs!
Eric Stuart and Dan Green are returning! AWESOME!
Ad23
said at 11:47 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
@tlemmens10 YAHOO!!! :D
tlemmens10
said at 3:31 AM on Sat Aug 20 2016
@Ad23 Now, if only Pokémon did a special episode in which Veronica, Eric and Rachel returned...
vgiannell5
said at 11:04 PM on Sat Aug 20 2016
@tlemmens10 I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.
GothamRed
said at 4:19 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Sadly no more Yami Bakura, so Ted potentially coming back (though not unlikely) doesn't mean as much to me in this, but I'm just waiting for a Wayne Grayson Confirmation.
TrueMyriad
said at 3:05 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
 5 Shout Outs!
The one true Kaiba is BACK
Ghosty404
said at 12:46 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
 9 Shout Outs!
Dan Green is coming.. --

ERIC STUART IS COMING--

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
animasterman
said at 1:12 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
@Ghosty404 This has been quite a year. Dan Green is back as Yugi and Josh Seth is back as Tai
HylianBelmont
said at 2:09 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
@Ghosty404 I can't tell you how glad I am that they're back!
GothamRed
said at 4:17 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
@animasterman The world is as it should be
GreenGoblin75
said at 12:40 PM on Tue Jun 7 2016
 4 Shout Outs!
Considering how Bill Rogers took over most of Eric Stuart's roles in Pokemon, it got me thinking what it'd be like if he took over Kaiba.

:l

Let that sink in.
FF91
said at 7:35 AM on Sat Jul 16 2016
@GreenGoblin75 If that happened, the fandom would go ballistic...and not in a good way.
Damalis
said at 2:16 PM on Fri Aug 19 2016
@GreenGoblin75 Now we know this never happened :)
WrightWay
said at 1:41 PM on Sat Feb 4 2017
@GreenGoblin75
This sounds like something that would happen in my nightmares lol.
Mariomon94
said at 12:02 PM on Sat May 26 2018
@WrightWay I actually like Bill Rogers as Brock- to me, he's as amazing as Eric Stuart is in the role in my opinion (Sarah Natochenny is Ash for me though) but I do agree that Bill Rogers would sound horrible and painfully unfitting as Seto Kaiba.
Dr.Who
said at 7:26 PM on Thu Sep 24 2015
 9 Shout Outs!
Since 4KMedia and Konami still have the license to the dub, I hope they bring back Dan Green, Eric Stuart, and Wayne Grayson etc. for the dub of this film. I hope they keep the film Uncut like they did BBT's dub, but this time around, keep the Japanese OST.
Ichigo341578926
said at 5:09 AM on Sun Dec 13 2015
@Dr.Who I defiantly hope they get Eric Stuart back since he hasn't done voice acting in about 5 years, it would be nice to hear him again.
Dr.Who
said at 11:20 PM on Sun Dec 13 2015
@Ichigo341578926
Actually Eric has voiced Meta Knight in 2014 in a video game trailer for Kirby, and Scorch in Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal in 2012, but I do agree, I want him back as Kaiba, it's honestly sad enough he was replaced on Pokemon as Brock and James back in 2006.
Ichigo341578926
said at 11:24 PM on Sun Dec 13 2015
@Dr.Who Really? Well I didn't watch Zexal so I'm not Surprised that I didn't know that, but he voiced Meta Knight again!? That's awesome.
Dr.Who
said at 2:30 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Ichigo341578926
Yup, though personally would be nice to see Birnbaum back as Tea as well, but I feel like that's a pipe dream, sadly.
Ichigo341578926
said at 2:34 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Dr.Who Yeah, it always sucks when they can't get the original voice back.... Well unless the original voice was bad, but this isn't one of those cases.
Dr.Who
said at 2:35 PM on Tue Dec 15 2015
@Ichigo341578926
Agreed all the way.
Stelman257
said at 1:26 AM on Mon Aug 15 2016
@Dr.Who No Eric Stuart only voiced Meta Knight in the anime, none of the games. Source is the man himself from many conventions where he's been asked.

Also that wasn't him in YGO ZeXal, that was just fans guessing randomly.
dcmarvelanime
said at 1:18 PM on Thu Jul 30 2015
 3 Shout Outs!
Here's My English Dub Cast
1.Max Mittelman as (Yugi Mutou)
2.Matthew Mercer as (Atem)
3.Crispin Freeman as (Seto Kaiba)
4.Alexis Tipton as (Anzu Mazaki)
5.Kaiji Tang as (Katsuya Jonouchi)
6.Tyson Rinehart as (Hiroto Honda)
7.Vic Mignogna as (Ryo Bakura)
8.Kyle McCarley as (The Antagonist)!
Ad23
said at 9:03 PM on Thu Jul 30 2015
@dcmarvelanime I don't know, it just wouldn't be the same.
1dbad
said at 11:58 PM on Tue Aug 4 2015
@dcmarvelanime Yugi and Atem are usually voiced by the same person, but I do like the idea of Matthew Mercer as Atem, haha. I'm probably in the minority, but as long as the dub was uncut I wouldn't be opposed to new voices.
SteelEthlan
said at 5:24 PM on Wed Aug 5 2015
@dcmarvelanime Personally, i don't think it would happen due to the fact that Konami owns both Yu-Gi-Oh and 4K Media Inc. (Which i still take that over 4Kids if they should've used that name to begin), and yet that's something i would think that 4K Media Inc. may be based in New York if i'm right.
SteelEthlan
said at 12:12 PM on Fri Jan 8 2016
@SteelEthlan Correction here as I previously ignored: (Which i still take that name over "4Kids" as they should've used that name to begin with)
Firion2
said at 8:39 AM on Sat Aug 13 2016
@dcmarvelanime you know I will agree with you that crispin Freeman would be best actor for Kaiba's role.
Ad23
said at 6:59 PM on Fri Jul 24 2015
 7 Shout Outs!
Oh boy I sure hope Dan Green and Eric Stuart come back.
1dbad
said at 12:00 AM on Wed Aug 5 2015
@Ad23 4K Media managed to get almost everyone back for Bonds Beyond Time, so I imagine they will.
Stelman257
said at 1:27 AM on Mon Aug 15 2016
@1dbad 4K Media didn't do Bonds Beyond Time, that was straight up 4kids.
1dbad
said at 4:28 AM on Mon Aug 22 2016
@Stelman257 I know, but it was pretty much all of the same people. 4Kids and their staff just got renamed to 4K Media when Konami bought them.
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