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Akira

Akira

Akira

Theatrical Release Date (USA): 1991

Home Video Release Date (USA): July 24, 2001

Theatrical Release Date in (Japan): July 16, 1988

Franchise: Akira
Has two English dubs:
Intersound (1988)
Animaze (2001)
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Phillip
said at 1:13 PM on Thu Jul 10 2014
 4 Shout Outs! [?]
GREATEST, MOST AMAZING, STUNNING, BEAUTIFUL, MOST ORIGINAL MOVIE EVER CREATED! 'Nuff said!
Metabad
said at 2:21 AM on Sun Jul 13 2014
@Phillip Agreed, I absolutely love it!
gsbr
said at 3:11 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
I have to wonder what possesses people to attack the original dub on pages that are intended for general discussion about the film, not debating which dub is better. Are they really that insecure about the version they like?
NCZ (Admin)
said at 7:55 PM on Thu Feb 13 2014
@gsbr Quit arguing with people for the sake of arguing. You've made your point clear in the past. Stop with the blatant rudeness, aggressiveness, and disrespect.
gsbr
said at 6:02 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@NCZ So let me get this straight. It's alright for other users who made their points clear in the past to keep making their points. It's alright for other users to argue with me whenever I leave a comment on the Laputa and Akira voice compare pages. But when I'm straight-out in my opinion, it's not alright. What's with the double standard? Is it because I'm expressing an opinion you disagree with? Is it because you agree with the people who argue against me?

It's funny, if I said the original dub is amazing and the new dub is one of the worst ever, there would be a number of people after me, telling me I'm wrong. I didn't reply to any individual comment on Tetuso's voice compare, but when I argued Jan Rabson is better than Joshua Seth, the replies came pouring in.

Now, I'm fine with people replying to me. But when I'm told not to reply to them- that's what I have an issue with. I don't think you're looking at this objectively.

My main point here is this shouldn't be a page for debate. That's what voice compare is for. This should be about general discussion. Discuss what you enjoy about the film. If there's a version you don't like, ignore it. Watch the version you prefer and let others enjoy their version.
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 6:12 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@gsbr From all the times I've seen you talk with people on the site, I haven't gotten a rude, aggressive vibe from you. Every time someone debates your points you've always responded calmly. And like you said, whenever you've got into an argument (more like a slightly heated, but rational debate), it's from someone responding to you. I've never seen you trying to pick a fight with anyone.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 6:47 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@gsbr "It's alright for other users who made their points clear in the past to keep making their points."

No, it's not. It's annoying if anybody states their opinion repeatedly, but it's admittedly more tolerable and less frustrating if they're not outright rude about it. See, the key is, you can express an opinion without being rude or patronizing to people who disagree. I haven't ever seen any of them accuse people who like the other dub as being "insecure" for instance. That's an outright insult. Within limits people can say what they like about dubs (i.e. they can't hate something for the sake of hating it or do so without providing reasons, but honest critique is fair game), but attacking individual people who disagree with you is not acceptable. That's what I'm talking about. The issue is not that you're expressing an opinion. I'm talking to you because you're doing so in a way that comes off as bitter, angry, and intolerant. And I'm not singling you out either. We have had this kind of issue with numerous users in the past.

"Is it because I'm expressing an opinion you disagree with? Is it because you agree with the people who argue against me?"

I've never seen this movie so I have no opinion whatsoever on the subject. No need to be accusatory.

"This should be about general discussion. Discuss what you enjoy about the film. If there's a version you don't like, ignore it. Watch the version you prefer and let others enjoy their version."

Who are you to say what people can and cannot discuss? I might add that you could easily take those last two sentences and apply them to yourself.
gsbr
said at 10:18 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@PsychicVoiceSpy Thanks man. We obviously disagree about the two dubs, but I respect your opinion.
gsbr
said at 11:40 PM on Fri Feb 14 2014
@NCZ I understand how my comment can be viewed as insulting, but I'm not speaking directly to anyone. I'm not replying to everyone I disagree with and telling them they're insecure. I'm referring to a generalized group of people; those who continually bash things they don't like. Since I believe indifference, not hate, is the opposite of love, I suspect them of not being honest in their frequent critiques. As the old saying goes, "the lady doth protest too much."

"I've never seen this movie so I have no opinion whatsoever on the subject. No need to be accusatory."

I thought you had because you voted for Johnny Yong Bosch in the Kaneda voice compare.

"Who are you to say what people can and cannot discuss?"

I'm not saying what people can and cannot discuss, I'm saying what they should discuss. This isn't a debate page; it's for people who enjoyed the film. There's no reason to have negativity here. Would you like it if negative comments were posted on the page of one of your favorite films?

"I might add that you could easily take those last two sentences and apply them to yourself."

Except I'm not criticizing the version I don't like here. I'm criticizing those who constantly criticize the version they don't like.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 8:59 AM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@gsbr "I understand how my comment can be viewed as insulting, but I'm not speaking directly to anyone. I'm not replying to everyone I disagree with and telling them they're insecure. I'm referring to a generalized group of people; those who continually bash things they don't like. "

That is not a good argument. By insulting a group of people, by definition you're insulting the people within a group. That'd be like if I said "All farmers are stupid! But it's okay; I'm not insulting any specific farmers, so they don't have any reason to be offended!"

"I'm not saying what people can and cannot discuss, I'm saying what they should discuss."

That's what I'm saying. You can't tell people not to say things because you don't like hearing it.

"Would you like it if negative comments were posted on the page of one of your favorite films?"

If it was an honest critique that led to a healthy discussion or polite, civil debate, then I wouldn't mind. Discussion includes opinions of all types. It is not exclusively a non-productive positive or negative feedback loop. If you have an opinion that is contrary to that of others, express it civilly in a positive, polite manner and people shouldn't feel the need to attack you. You can't make accusatory statements and then not expect people to be offended. All that does is stir up pointless drama and make you look petty.
gsbr
said at 6:38 PM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@NCZ "That is not a good argument. By insulting a group of people, by definition you're insulting the people within a group. That'd be like if I said 'All farmers are stupid! But it's okay; I'm not insulting any specific farmers, so they don't have any reason to be offended!'"

Except I'm not referring to people who aren't doing anything out of the ordinary. My comment was directed at overly critical folks. Nor did I make an unfounded accusation; I explained why I considered them insecure in my previous comment. Would it be wrong to say all trolls are mean spirited people?

"That's what I'm saying. You can't tell people not to say things because you don't like hearing it."

So I couldn't tell people to not say racist, homophobic, and/or sexist things because I don't like hearing offensive remarks? And that's not why I said people shouldn't post negative comments here. I established what the problem was with negativity in my last post.

"If it was an honest critique that led to a healthy discussion or polite, civil debate, then I wouldn't mind. Discussion includes opinions of all types. It is not exclusively a non-productive positive or negative feedback loop. If you have an opinion that is contrary to that of others, express it civilly in a positive, polite manner and people shouldn't feel the need to attack you. You can't make accusatory statements and then not expect people to be offended. All that does is stir up pointless drama and make you look petty."

This isn't the IMDb, which is intended for everyone who has seen a film. The IMDb allows films to be voted on; here, titles can only be favorited. So really, this page is intended for just those who liked the film- why would someone be looking up the voice actors if they didn't like the film, anyways? Furthermore, this page is ill-equip to handle conversations. It doesn't break up into more pages as more comments get submitted, it just gets longer. Now a negative comment, regardless of how civil it is, is bound to turn into a conversation, and that will screw with this page. So that brings me back to what I've been saying all along: what's the point of having any negativity here? Even opinions that are expressed politely can turn into flame wars, memes about the dangerous of online opinions exist for a reason.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 8:56 PM on Sat Feb 15 2014
@gsbr I've been wondering from the beginning. What are these negative comments on this page that you've even been talking about? There were four comments on here and only one of them was critical of the movie itself. It seems to me like you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
gsbr
said at 6:21 PM on Tue Feb 18 2014
@Nightmare Crusher There are negative comments aimed at the old dub of Akira here. There's no point in criticizing any of the versions of the film on this page when the voice compare section is intended for discussing the two dubs.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 6:25 PM on Tue Feb 18 2014
@gsbr Voice acting is still part of the film. Besides, this is a voice acting website. Saying people shouldn't talk about a movie's voice acting on the movie's page for a voice acting website is just silly.
gsbr
said at 5:08 PM on Wed Feb 19 2014
@Nightmare Crusher The website is meant for respecting the voice actors. Why would you be interested in performances you didn't like? What do you gain through constant criticism?
Nightmare Crusher
said at 5:15 PM on Wed Feb 19 2014
@gsbr Constant criticism? Every person who posted on this page only made a single comment and there were four total. Out of them one person said he liked both dubs, and another said the movie itself was still great and all of them at least complimented one of the dubs. I still say you're making something out of nothing.
gsbr
said at 11:55 AM on Fri Feb 21 2014
@Nightmare Crusher The people who critical of the original dub don't just bash it here. It's fine if you don't like something, but there's no point criticizing it everywhere you go- especially when this website has a page dedicated to debate. And if you think something is being made out of nothing, why are we even having this conversation?
rosebr10
said at 12:50 PM on Fri Feb 21 2014
@gsbr
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Impossible-People

And away I go.
Nightmare Crusher
said at 1:20 PM on Fri Feb 21 2014
@gsbr And I've seen you criticize the new dub on a few different pages. Is it really that different? Besides, you could argue that the compares are for individual characters while this page is for general discussion. As for why we're having this conversation, I guess I made a response to you and it lead to a chain of replies that got us here. I guess there isn't much of a point to continuing.
gsbr
said at 12:04 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@Nightmare Crusher Yeah, on the voice compare pages. That's the section that's meant for debate. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions there. This page is meant for all fans of the movie- hence why it can only be favorited. By posting anything negative, certain fans will be offended and that will lead to conflict on a page that wasn't supposed to have any fighting on it to begin with.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 12:08 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@gsbr Considering the fact that absolutely zero progress has apparently been made in this argument, I think everyone should drop this subject entirely.
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 12:27 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@gsbr This site is meant as a database for all things related to voice-acting first and foremost, it has features that caters to fans, but that's not to main goal of the site. This page is not meant specifically for fans, this page is for whoever has any kind of interest in the movie or it's voice-actors, whether it be a negative or positive interest. Favoriting things is a fun side feature for the users. And aside from that, there are other things about the production process of each dub or it's actors that can be further discussed here rather than the individual voice-compares where it would be out of place. This page IS meant for discussion, whether it be positive, negative, or neutral.

I'm sorry, but your claim that this page is meant for fans holds no water. NCZ already pretty much denied above denied that this page is meant for fans; it's meant for discussion of all types as long as it's civil and constructive. Continuing to make the assertion that this page is meant only for fans when a high-ranking member of the site's staff has already denied this idea is simply illogical. If a member of the site staff tells you that your idea on what the page is for is wrong, then it's wrong.

I still respect your opinion, certainly. But please stop with the idea that this page is meant for fans and people shouldn't post any kind of negative opinions. It's simply illogical.
PsychicVoiceSpy
said at 12:31 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@NCZ I apologize. I was already in the process of typing out my comment when you posted this. I will not be responding this any longer.
gsbr
said at 2:18 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@PsychicVoiceSpy The place for discussion is the forums. As I said to NCZ, this page is ill-equip to handle long conversations. It won't break up into individual pages as more comments get posted, it will just get longer, and because comments only get indented once, it becomes difficult to keep track conversations involving more than two people.

Plus, NCZ didn't say this page was intended for discussion. He said he wouldn't mind a healthy discussion taking place on these pages. But my point stands; this page isn't designed for conversations. Nor does it need to be when we have the forums to discuss the film and we can hold conversations through private messages.
gsbr
said at 2:18 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@NCZ I think it would be best just to delete this whole conversation.
NCZ (Admin)
said at 2:22 PM on Sat Feb 22 2014
@gsbr Indeed.
Metabad
said at 6:06 PM on Wed Jul 10 2013
...I'm probably the only one who liked both the Streamline dub and the Pioneer dub, despite their faults.

Oh well, hahah! I still love this movie either way. Going into it, I didn't even know I'd love it as much as I do now.
PurpleWarrior13
said at 12:31 AM on Sun Jan 13 2013
 7 Shout Outs! [?]
This movie is definitely a landmark in Japanese animation, and one of the greatest animated films ever. It's become quite a legendary movie in it's own right. I thought the voice actors for the newer version did a truly amazing job bringing these characters to life. Though unfortunately, I can't really say the same for the 80s dub, which is one of the worst ever made in my opinion. It's the closest an English anime dub has come to being a "Hong Kong" over-dub (bad lip sync, horrid recording quality, confusing script, and weak, stale, or in some cases, over-exaggerated performances), despite having some great voice actors on board (like Cam Clarke, Tony Pope, Barbara Goodson, Bob Bergen, etc).
Fulgore2005
said at 11:03 AM on Sat Mar 23 2013
@PurpleWarrior13 I highly agree. I won't deny I've seen the old dub many times at first. But after watching the new dub, I felt that was greatly done. It had flaws, (Masaru's voice wasn't ideal) but I still preferred the new dub.
JTurner
said at 3:25 PM on Sun Apr 7 2013
@Fulgore2005 Same here. I don't particularly like the film, but as far as dubs go, the newer dub is the better of the two, hands down


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FAVE CHARACTER
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Tetsuo Shima
60.0% (6 votes)
Shotaro Kaneda
20.0% (2 votes)
Kei
10.0% (1 votes)
Colonel Shikishima
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